Casinos not asking for KYC to register and play, but do require it to withdraw

[TopTort777]

I find it simple - dont gamble at all if you dont want to play under their rules. Open your own casino and do whatever you want. I strongly believe that casino will never ask for KYC just for fun, just because you are some kind of a special player and their security team decided to pay attention to you. They do ask KYC if they find there is something suspicious about you. If you havent violated anything, there will be no problem to pass it. Scared of loosing identity, go to decentralized casinos. Quite simple, clear and no need to stretch this situation, turning topic into hundred pages long.

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[mak013]

That`s what i`m talking about! If the casino make us KYC, they have to do it before the first deposit. At least we must have an opportunity to KYC ourselves. In such way gambler can choose his way - if he don`t want to KYC he can change casino, if he don`t afraid of it - he KYC and has no problem with withdrawals. But casinos don`t want to lose such opportunity to cheat.

That's more better they should require this at first so that no confusion related on future implementation and for sure to many can accept that set up rather than this requirement will be ask later on once they request something since their casino might provably get a bad reputation for that reasons.

If they care about the feed back of people they should not deceive by telling they are not KYC compliant but at the end they ask their users especially when withdrawal request has been submitted.

If they cheat and say something misleading then its better to leave their casino and warn our  friends regarding to those misleading claims they are posting on their thread.

The problem is that casinos don`t want to do it. They like this opportunity and say something about "we allow gambler not to spend time waiting the KYC. He can begin gambling after his first deposit immediately". But the truth is that they can freeze your money for a long enough time. And it is difficult enough to change casino because the main part of them have something about it.

I think that we always risk when give our money to somebody. Sometimes risks are higher. In casino we risk 3 times: deposit, bet, withdraw. The KYC possible increase risk when you withdraw and need your money fast but anyway withdrawal is a risk with KYC or without it.
The main risk with KYC is that someone can use your data. But the same risk you have every moment when you give your data to any organisation.

There is no doubt that gambling is the risky game and those who gamble know that they are taking risk with their money in order to gain profits and in the process they may lose money too.

However, being not able to KYC even after winning is not termed as bad luck but a scam by the new gambling sites. They will allow you to gamble and deposit without KYC but when you win something and place a withdrawal order they may start to ask for KYC. The bad ones won't approve the KYC and hence your money is stuck in the casino.

To avoid this situation it is always recommended that we do the KYC first so this risk of getting scammed by casinos is eliminated to some extent. Now it only leaves us with luck in gambling and if we have good luck we can make money in gambling and cash it out.

I know about it. But the problem that we often has no opportunity to KYC ourselves. I try to make several small deposits before big betting to get KYC but not always it is possible.

[LUCKMCFLY]

First thing i think about is not to show my money to anybody. When you gamble in unknown casinos it is anyway bad decision - you risk and your money, and your data both. And when someone can connect you with your money it is really bad. But i can only repeat what i said long ago - when someone knows that you have money - he can get all your data anyway. The main question is the sum, that becomes interesting for someone serious.

Yes, basically those are the risks that one can suffer when it comes to a casino that makes a difference, because when we are in a casino we do take risks, from the moment we make the first deposit until we make the withdrawal, now more. never because the thing is very given that KYC has to be done compulsorily in all casinos, that is what many do not like, and I personally do not like it, however those are the conditions, so that's what I say , Playing in a place that you know is safe, things are likely to be done that way.

What we have to be clear about is that we as players have to do what is safe for us and guarantees us playing well, because data leaks are something that can happen, so since we are in a casino it is already a risk, of course In fact, everything is a risk, it's just that sometimes we have to take risks and do what we like.

I think that we always risk when give our money to somebody. Sometimes risks are higher. In casino we risk 3 times: deposit, bet, withdraw. The KYC possible increase risk when you withdraw and need your money fast but anyway withdrawal is a risk with KYC or without it.
The main risk with KYC is that someone can use your data. But the same risk you have every moment when you give your data to any organisation.

Always deposit the amount of money in gambling that you will not need for any emergency period. And you won't have any problem losing that money. so from here the quick withdrawal issue does not matter for those who use gambling only for fun. But for those who use gambling as a source of income and spend their important and necessary money on gambling, this is very risky, so those people should use sites that are very reliable and where withdrawal is done quickly. and there it is better to keep their KYC complete from the registration time

Even if we do say that you are spending on the amount that you can afford to lose but still its not something that not will really be  giving up any problem even if its free money or extra. We do know that losing money is never been fun and even if you do deal up with legitimate platforms but still you would really be having on the same feeling or emotions towards loses.  Speaking about legitimate or reputable gambling casino platforms then it wont really be that so hard on making yourself on finding one. We do have that Google on which we could really be able to search up any information that we could really be able to
check on about specially into those casino background check or whatever information it would be.

Usually you would be facing up these withdrawal hold and ask some KYC into those shady ones but somewhat this has become standard because once you do win up big
then there would really be some sort of verification but actually its not really that much of an issue for me.

Well, there is talk of spending money that you do not want to lose, it is normal, but you have to comply with it to be able to do things better, that is, it is preferable to have a controlled balance. to lose a total of the balance, that is something that many eprosn do not consider and that is why the problems come later, of the money they lost when they should not have lost, then basically it is a security measure for ourselves as players, it is something which should be avoided, of course we are people who will always seek to win, but sometimes it is inevitable to lose.

The thing about money willing to lose is a strategy that I use for trading and that I brought to the game to avoid constant losses.

[shasan]

I find it simple - dont gamble at all if you dont want to play under their rules. Open your own casino and do whatever you want. I strongly believe that casino will never ask for KYC just for fun, just because you are some kind of a special player and their security team decided to pay attention to you. They do ask KYC if they find there is something suspicious about you. If you havent violated anything, there will be no problem to pass it. Scared of loosing identity, go to decentralized casinos. Quite simple, clear and no need to stretch this situation, turning topic into hundred pages long.

Yes, you are right that they want to very know your customer identity if they suspect you. But they only suspect you when anyone wins or tries to withdraw funds. Many a gambling site won't restrict anything until there is a withdrawal request. So, it is good for gamblers? If we aren't ready to fulfill these terms then we must stop gambling on those sites that require any types of verification.

[ScamViruS]

I find it simple - dont gamble at all if you dont want to play under their rules. Open your own casino and do whatever you want. I strongly believe that casino will never ask for KYC just for fun, just because you are some kind of a special player and their security team decided to pay attention to you. They do ask KYC if they find there is something suspicious about you. If you havent violated anything, there will be no problem to pass it. Scared of loosing identity, go to decentralized casinos. Quite simple, clear and no need to stretch this situation, turning topic into hundred pages long.

Gamblers are free to make decisions about registering with a particular casino. Now if a casino makes KYC verification mandatory and a gambler is not interested in doing kyc then that gambler will refrain from joining this casino because casinos will never force gamblers to join their casino. However, if some casinos do not make kyc mandatory, casinos use kyc as an excuse to withhold the gambler's winning funds when the gambler wins big. And the casinos that engage in such activities can never be trusted casinos, they can create even worse situations for the gambler in the future.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I think that we always risk when give our money to somebody. Sometimes risks are higher. In casino we risk 3 times: deposit, bet, withdraw. The KYC possible increase risk when you withdraw and need your money fast but anyway withdrawal is a risk with KYC or without it.
The main risk with KYC is that someone can use your data. But the same risk you have every moment when you give your data to any organisation.

Well, if we consider that we take risks at every moment to carry out any activity, then we could have a better understanding of things.

For example, I am a person who joins any bank, or any FIAT style organization. What is emphasized here is that Fiat money is what is legal, what is common and what many people strive to protect because it has a higher order of legitimacy, however, in an online casino with crypto, I believe that criminals have more free rein to do their misdeeds, because Governments require KYC, but at the end of the day we know that they will use that same KYC in some moment against us and that is the only thing that should be avoided, that is why so much drama with the KYC to withdraw, although as I have said many times the casinos should be more Illustrative , instead of announcing that they make deposits, they should say that they first make the verification of their KYC to be able to make the deposit, that would be the most loyal thing they could do to avoid all these problems , but I think that not even with the dragon spheres ocn 3 wishes would I do it.

That`s what i`m talking about! If the casino make us KYC, they have to do it before the first deposit. At least we must have an opportunity to KYC ourselves. In such way gambler can choose his way - if he don`t want to KYC he can change casino, if he don`t afraid of it - he KYC and has no problem with withdrawals. But casinos don`t want to lose such opportunity to cheat.

That's more better they should require this at first so that no confusion related on future implementation and for sure to many can accept that set up rather than this requirement will be ask later on once they request something since their casino might provably get a bad reputation for that reasons.

If they care about the feed back of people they should not deceive by telling they are not KYC compliant but at the end they ask their users especially when withdrawal request has been submitted.

If they cheat and say something misleading then its better to leave their casino and warn our  friends regarding to those misleading claims they are posting on their thread.

We think that all the time we are ready to receive new things from casinos , and sometimes not very pleasant ones, because basically things in casinos Always do things in their favor, nothing in favor of the customers, and it is abnormal, it is a casino, As you know, many advertisements, contests and various things like bonuses are done in an attractive way so that they can attract the attention of the players, but if we know how things are, sometimes they tend to be a little more difficult. Well, when you see that there are very big requirements, sometimes people back off and there is nothing to do, because they are very difficult requirements to meet, I am one of those who this happens to, and especially because I am very impatient for playing, so when it comes to making withdrawals, if we do not encounter problems due to the KYC, for me it is enough to go to that Casino for each year I play more, and that is why the one who loses the most is the casino, not as a player, because one always finds Opportunities to play.

[Mahanton]

I find it simple - dont gamble at all if you dont want to play under their rules. Open your own casino and do whatever you want. I strongly believe that casino will never ask for KYC just for fun, just because you are some kind of a special player and their security team decided to pay attention to you. They do ask KYC if they find there is something suspicious about you. If you havent violated anything, there will be no problem to pass it. Scared of loosing identity, go to decentralized casinos. Quite simple, clear and no need to stretch this situation, turning topic into hundred pages long.

Gamblers are free to make decisions about registering with a particular casino. Now if a casino makes KYC verification mandatory and a gambler is not interested in doing kyc then that gambler will refrain from joining this casino because casinos will never force gamblers to join their casino. However, if some casinos do not make kyc mandatory, casinos use kyc as an excuse to withhold the gambler's winning funds when the gambler wins big. And the casinos that engage in such activities can never be trusted casinos, they can create even worse situations for the gambler in the future.

Actually it is really just that simple as that for a particular gamble to do such thing on which they would really be just simply skip out if there would really be that outright asking of KYC documents on the time that they do register into a certain site. Although there are some sites now that asking for some lite KYC on which this is something that happens or asked out on Roobet on where asking some basic information and those KYC have that levels on which it would really be basing up on how much  you do deposit or possibly be able to withdrawal on which on the time that you would really be able to hit up such threshold then they would really be just that
basically asking out on whats recommended.

This is why on the time that you would really be having that kind of approach about KYC then there's so much options that we could really be able to take. Due to that tough or high competition
within this industry then you could really be having tons of options when choosing up on a platform. There are still places on which you could really be able to play without minding
that much about those KYC thing or simply you can play anonymously.

[Kavelj22]

I find it simple - dont gamble at all if you dont want to play under their rules. Open your own casino and do whatever you want. I strongly believe that casino will never ask for KYC just for fun, just because you are some kind of a special player and their security team decided to pay attention to you. They do ask KYC if they find there is something suspicious about you. If you havent violated anything, there will be no problem to pass it. Scared of loosing identity, go to decentralized casinos. Quite simple, clear and no need to stretch this situation, turning topic into hundred pages long.

I completely agree with you, but unfortunately decentralized casinos do not provide the same features and are not of the same quality compared to central casinos. You know the lack of decentralization culture among the majority who come from the background of traditional fiat casino platforms.

There is no problem with the casino requesting verification procedures every time it is necessary. Even if the user has completed these procedures during registration, the platform may request that the verification process be repeated to match it with the first approved documents. On this basis, I find it normal for the platform to request a repeat of the verification procedures when the withdrawal amount is large. I think this increases the security feature on the platform, unless the casino’s goal is to disrupt withdrawals and not to perform a normal verification procedure.

The best solution to avoid any unexpected disruptions is to use reliable platforms that are sure of the large amount of liquidity they have.

[Fortify]

Just a warning in case it prevents someone from falling into this shitty scheme.

I was checking a crypto-casino with very easy entry just asking email and country, and allowed deposits in the main cryptos. I didn't need to deposit anything to realize that to withdraw funds they did require a complete KYC with ID, etc. I also tested registering from a banned country and even indicating it on the form, and it does not prevent you from making a deposit.

I guess I stated the obvious, but I don't see the point for gamblers in using this.
 
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I'll share the site since so much people is asking, but I guess this is usual:
https://elroyalecasinobonuses.com/ with a referal who leads you to the domain you'll be logged

In FAQ you find it clearly: https://elroyalecasinobonuses.com/faq/

Do I have to submit any documents when depositing money?
There are no documents needed for making a deposit at El Royale Casino. However, in some rare cases, we might ask you to provide a Credit Card Validation form to ensure the safety of your transactions.

How do I request a payout?
After you have submitted all the necessary documents for proving your identity, you will be able to request a payout in the Cashier section of your account. If you are using your mobile device, you need to go to “Menu,” and then to the section “Payout”.

El Royale is operated by Wonder Play Company N.V. having its office in Willemstad, Curacao. Company Registration number 162233.

When a user makes an aggregate lifetime total of deposits exceeding USD 2000 or requests a withdrawal of any amount at El Royale, they are obliged to undergo a full KYC procedure, wherein the user shall submit some basic details about themselves and then upload the files listed below:

A copy of Government Issued Photo ID (in some cases front and back depending on the doc)
A selfie of themselves holding the ID doc
A bank statement/Utility Bill

Yeah, pretty fair: give me 2K with no questions, but you won't be able to get a penny without fulfilling the rules. I'ts a regulatory joke. Even is a gambler trap: " I'll try to make it a big ammount so it's worth it to do the paperwork, then you loose. Unacceptable

If you live in most developed countries you better learn this lesson very quick, as it'll end up expensive for you otherwise. There are some casinos that even try going to the lengths of wanting to identify the company that you work for which seems like a gross amount of excess data gathering. In fairness, you'll find lots of them have huge welcome bonuses and if you've capitalized off them, then it's a small price to pay for them to complete identity verification at the payout stage. Sometimes they might catch a few people breaking the terms and retain any winnings, but they should always return the original deposit if that is the case - to be fair. You'll see KYC plastered all over this forum, so should learn to expect it these days.

[Dunamisx]

I find it simple - dont gamble at all if you dont want to play under their rules. Open your own casino and do whatever you want. I strongly believe that casino will never ask for KYC just for fun

If it had been easy, i know many would have also established one gambling casino and operate their own rules which i believe could have even been wore than the ones we are seeing them complaining about, the problem with the people is that they don't put their self in such conditions that if they were the ones involved operating a casino, wouldn't they demand more than that or even do the worse, if we think we cant go by their rules, then the better we take a leave and find a more suitable platform and if none is found, we can as well go ahead in creating one and see how easy it is.

[LUCKMCFLY]

The suggestion to make KYC verification a prerequisite for deposits could indeed streamline the process, setting clear expectations for users while aiming to enhance trust and transparency.
From other side, it could make signing up harder and slower for new users, raising concerns about privacy right from the start. While aiming for more trust and transparency, it's key to think about how this might put off newcomers or complicate the initial steps. Your "dragon spheres" analogy adds a fun twist, highlighting the tough task of changing how things are done to be more user friendly. It's crucial to keep looking for ways to balance security, privacy, and ease of use for everyone.

Well, knowing all this, assuming that customers will have greater clarity in trust and security, do you think that some players can expect something from casinos? So what do we know or what can we expect, for example, traditional casinos are the first to They can do it, the competition has to fulfill it as well, I am sure that if a reliable casino takes the initiative, all the other casinos will follow, because that is how it works, there is no other way, things with the competition are like that, as long as yes There is something that will take them forward, they will do it, plus the most reliable casinos do not lose anything and have their customers and many are already fully registered with their KYC at high levels, I think that would be a great difficult requirement for nascent or relatively new casinos.

[TopTort777]

I find it simple - dont gamble at all if you dont want to play under their rules. Open your own casino and do whatever you want. I strongly believe that casino will never ask for KYC just for fun, just because you are some kind of a special player and their security team decided to pay attention to you. They do ask KYC if they find there is something suspicious about you. If you havent violated anything, there will be no problem to pass it. Scared of loosing identity, go to decentralized casinos. Quite simple, clear and no need to stretch this situation, turning topic into hundred pages long.

Gamblers are free to make decisions about registering with a particular casino. Now if a casino makes KYC verification mandatory and a gambler is not interested in doing kyc then that gambler will refrain from joining this casino because casinos will never force gamblers to join their casino. However, if some casinos do not make kyc mandatory, casinos use kyc as an excuse to withhold the gambler's winning funds when the gambler wins big. And the casinos that engage in such activities can never be trusted casinos, they can create even worse situations for the gambler in the future.

I will repeat it once again, casinos dont ask for kyc just for fun, even though it wasnt a mandatory. Ok, there are times when security team randomly send kyc requests, when they have nothing to do, but they must show that they are working. % of such random cases is tiny. They are busy all the time. If gambler hasnt dont anything bad, there is nothing bad from passing kyc. After, they might be just curious who they are about to send money to. But in most cases there is always a strong reason to ask for kyc. With the amount of casinos today, not a single casino would ask for kyc for nothing and be endangered of losing a customer (maybe loyal).

[Bitinity]

I find it simple - dont gamble at all if you dont want to play under their rules. Open your own casino and do whatever you want. I strongly believe that casino will never ask for KYC just for fun, just because you are some kind of a special player and their security team decided to pay attention to you. They do ask KYC if they find there is something suspicious about you. If you havent violated anything, there will be no problem to pass it. Scared of loosing identity, go to decentralized casinos. Quite simple, clear and no need to stretch this situation, turning topic into hundred pages long.

Gamblers are free to make decisions about registering with a particular casino. Now if a casino makes KYC verification mandatory and a gambler is not interested in doing kyc then that gambler will refrain from joining this casino because casinos will never force gamblers to join their casino. However, if some casinos do not make kyc mandatory, casinos use kyc as an excuse to withhold the gambler's winning funds when the gambler wins big. And the casinos that engage in such activities can never be trusted casinos, they can create even worse situations for the gambler in the future.

Do you mean to say that casino with mandatory KYC is more trusted than those casinos with no mandatory KYC? If you think so, I have to disagree because once players created an account in casinos where KYC is not mandatory but there is clear statement that the casino reserves the right to ask KYC at anytime or for special cases, means that players agreed with this terms already. Casinos asking KYC for big amount of withdrawal can be said as normal thing, although I dont like KYC but I can accept this situation. As long as the casino release the withdrawal once KYC is completed, there is nothing wrong with it.

[gunhell16]

I find it simple - dont gamble at all if you dont want to play under their rules. Open your own casino and do whatever you want. I strongly believe that casino will never ask for KYC just for fun, just because you are some kind of a special player and their security team decided to pay attention to you. They do ask KYC if they find there is something suspicious about you. If you havent violated anything, there will be no problem to pass it. Scared of loosing identity, go to decentralized casinos. Quite simple, clear and no need to stretch this situation, turning topic into hundred pages long.

Of course, it's also very simple: if you know that there is a KYC, don't play in that casino. Just find out the terms and conditions of the casino we will enter first. Now, when you see that there is no kyc, you decide whether you will enter money to gamble or not.

It's just that there are casinos that, even without kyc, still require kyc in the end because the amount of money won in the casino is large because they first have a short investigation to see if it's from the game provider where you won a large amount of money. If you didn't have any problems with cheating or technical problems, then after that, if they didn't see anything, they would allow you to withdraw by simply giving them the KYC.

[carlfebz2]

I find it simple - dont gamble at all if you dont want to play under their rules. Open your own casino and do whatever you want. I strongly believe that casino will never ask for KYC just for fun, just because you are some kind of a special player and their security team decided to pay attention to you. They do ask KYC if they find there is something suspicious about you. If you havent violated anything, there will be no problem to pass it. Scared of loosing identity, go to decentralized casinos. Quite simple, clear and no need to stretch this situation, turning topic into hundred pages long.

Of course, it's also very simple: if you know that there is a KYC, don't play in that casino. Just find out the terms and conditions of the casino we will enter first. Now, when you see that there is no kyc, you decide whether you will enter money to gamble or not.

It's just that there are casinos that, even without kyc, still require kyc in the end because the amount of money won in the casino is large because they first have a short investigation to see if it's from the game provider where you won a large amount of money. If you didn't have any problems with cheating or technical problems, then after that, if they didn't see anything, they would allow you to withdraw by simply giving them the KYC.

You could really be able to spot it out i must say on which you could really be able to tell whether they are asking for some KYC. You could always read up their terms and conditions and find out whether
they would really be asking some KYC on withdrawal. If you have seen nothing but they do end up on asking some KYC before you can withdraw then thats a shady act on their part and this is something a platform
which you would really be needing to avoid because it is really not that fair or transparent on having that kind of terms because if you are a legit site then you would really be always getting in line
with those terms without any sudden change or additional terms.

Also, you could really be able to read or search up if ever there would really be some pending complaints or issues of a certain site on which it would really be that impossible that
you cant really be able to see when you do tend to seek or search online.

[ScamViruS]

I find it simple - dont gamble at all if you dont want to play under their rules. Open your own casino and do whatever you want. I strongly believe that casino will never ask for KYC just for fun, just because you are some kind of a special player and their security team decided to pay attention to you. They do ask KYC if they find there is something suspicious about you. If you havent violated anything, there will be no problem to pass it. Scared of loosing identity, go to decentralized casinos. Quite simple, clear and no need to stretch this situation, turning topic into hundred pages long.

Gamblers are free to make decisions about registering with a particular casino. Now if a casino makes KYC verification mandatory and a gambler is not interested in doing kyc then that gambler will refrain from joining this casino because casinos will never force gamblers to join their casino. However, if some casinos do not make kyc mandatory, casinos use kyc as an excuse to withhold the gambler's winning funds when the gambler wins big. And the casinos that engage in such activities can never be trusted casinos, they can create even worse situations for the gambler in the future.

Do you mean to say that casino with mandatory KYC is more trusted than those casinos with no mandatory KYC? If you think so, I have to disagree because once players created an account in casinos where KYC is not mandatory but there is clear statement that the casino reserves the right to ask KYC at anytime or for special cases, means that players agreed with this terms already. Casinos asking KYC for big amount of withdrawal can be said as normal thing, although I dont like KYC but I can accept this situation. As long as the casino release the withdrawal once KYC is completed, there is nothing wrong with it.

No. The casino will not be more trusted if KYC is mandatory. I only said gamblers have more choice to choose casino, even after KYC verification many times gamblers face problem in kyc mandatory casinos. When a casino is a top rated trusted casino I will be interested in doing kyc in that casino because I know where I am joining, yes it is true by doing that I am revealing my personal information to that casino. Many casinos promote that they are No Kyc casinos, but they write in their T&Cs that they reserve the right to ask for KYC verification at any time. And they take maximum advantage of these T&C. So here the reputation of the casino is the most important, so that you can be aware of any problems in the future.

[LUCKMCFLY]

First thing i think about is not to show my money to anybody. When you gamble in unknown casinos it is anyway bad decision - you risk and your money, and your data both. And when someone can connect you with your money it is really bad. But i can only repeat what i said long ago - when someone knows that you have money - he can get all your data anyway. The main question is the sum, that becomes interesting for someone serious.

Yes, basically those are the risks that one can suffer when it comes to a casino that makes a difference, because when we are in a casino we do take risks, from the moment we make the first deposit until we make the withdrawal, now more. never because the thing is very given that KYC has to be done compulsorily in all casinos, that is what many do not like, and I personally do not like it, however those are the conditions, so that's what I say , Playing in a place that you know is safe, things are likely to be done that way.

What we have to be clear about is that we as players have to do what is safe for us and guarantees us playing well, because data leaks are something that can happen, so since we are in a casino it is already a risk, of course In fact, everything is a risk, it's just that sometimes we have to take risks and do what we like.

I think that we always risk when give our money to somebody. Sometimes risks are higher. In casino we risk 3 times: deposit, bet, withdraw. The KYC possible increase risk when you withdraw and need your money fast but anyway withdrawal is a risk with KYC or without it.
The main risk with KYC is that someone can use your data. But the same risk you have every moment when you give your data to any organisation.

Well, if we consider that we take risks at every moment to carry out any activity, then we could have a better understanding of things.

For example, I am a person who joins any bank, or any FIAT style organization. What is emphasized here is that Fiat money is what is legal, what is common and what many people strive to protect because it has a higher order of legitimacy, however, in an online casino with crypto, I believe that criminals have more free rein to do their misdeeds, because Governments require KYC, but at the end of the day we know that they will use that same KYC in some moment against us and that is the only thing that should be avoided, that is why so much drama with the KYC to withdraw, although as I have said many times the casinos should be more Illustrative , instead of announcing that they make deposits, they should say that they first make the verification of their KYC to be able to make the deposit, that would be the most loyal thing they could do to avoid all these problems , but I think that not even with the dragon spheres ocn 3 wishes would I do it.

In my opinion, it would be correct to draw a clear line between fiat payments in casinos, which are completely personalized and use verified bank accounts, and payments in cryptocurrencies, which are completely anonymous and the owner of a cryptocurrency deposit in a casino can maintain this complete anonymity. 
Unfortunately, now legislators, introducing de-anonymization into cryptocurrency, completely ignore and have spoiled the main property of cryptocurrency as anonymous money.  And this offensive from exchanges and casinos is also very active.  Fewer and fewer casinos do not require identity verification.  And voluntarily reporting and distributing your personal data to dozens of not very reliable businesses, in my opinion, can generally be considered a crime against a person’s right to privacy. 
Legislators need to start protecting these very human rights to privacy in the issue of cryptocurrency payments.   Unfortunately, no one from Congress even says anything on this topic.  In any case, I have not heard anything intelligible from congressmen about this approach to the problem. 
But the problem exists, this is obvious.

Well what you say would be something great, because for those who want to pay with fiduciary currency it is obvious that they have to know where it comes from and if it is from a bank then that too, but what casino could assume such responsibility? so that they make crypto anonymous, that would be the solution to everything, and with that many players could be very safe playing, as they should be, I think that an advantage that physical casinos have is that they do not start to worry about the life of the player , they only show the identification if it is warranted to enter and that's it, I think that now physical casinos are taking more advantages over online casinos only because of the KYC, and this is something that is noticeable by miles.

What casino could understand this? and implement it? It is somewhat difficult, but I think that in the future it could be done.

[shasan]

I find it simple - dont gamble at all if you dont want to play under their rules. Open your own casino and do whatever you want. I strongly believe that casino will never ask for KYC just for fun, just because you are some kind of a special player and their security team decided to pay attention to you. They do ask KYC if they find there is something suspicious about you. If you havent violated anything, there will be no problem to pass it. Scared of loosing identity, go to decentralized casinos. Quite simple, clear and no need to stretch this situation, turning topic into hundred pages long.

Do you not think your point is pointless/valueless? You are telling me to open a casino to a gambler? Is it possible for all the gamblers who are in opposition to the bad KYC policy? I think you should be aware of the misconduct of scammers (which is a gambling site.)

[Dunamisx]

Many have taken the gambling platforms for granted because they think they will have to have them subjected under their own taste and person interest and in so doing, thinking as well that they can equally go away with it when they fail to realized what's in there in their rules, all these are part of what has made them not to enjoy having the casinos request for their kyc because they don't have the necessary information's to provide and comply with, just as the casinos requested.

[EarnOnVictor]

I find it simple - dont gamble at all if you dont want to play under their rules. Open your own casino and do whatever you want. I strongly believe that casino will never ask for KYC just for fun, just because you are some kind of a special player and their security team decided to pay attention to you. They do ask KYC if they find there is something suspicious about you. If you havent violated anything, there will be no problem to pass it. Scared of loosing identity, go to decentralized casinos. Quite simple, clear and no need to stretch this situation, turning topic into hundred pages long.

Gamblers are free to make decisions about registering with a particular casino. Now if a casino makes KYC verification mandatory and a gambler is not interested in doing kyc then that gambler will refrain from joining this casino because casinos will never force gamblers to join their casino. However, if some casinos do not make kyc mandatory, casinos use kyc as an excuse to withhold the gambler's winning funds when the gambler wins big. And the casinos that engage in such activities can never be trusted casinos, they can create even worse situations for the gambler in the future.

Do you mean to say that casino with mandatory KYC is more trusted than those casinos with no mandatory KYC? If you think so, I have to disagree because once players created an account in casinos where KYC is not mandatory but there is clear statement that the casino reserves the right to ask KYC at anytime or for special cases, means that players agreed with this terms already. Casinos asking KYC for big amount of withdrawal can be said as normal thing, although I dont like KYC but I can accept this situation. As long as the casino release the withdrawal once KYC is completed, there is nothing wrong with it.

From what I read with you guys, I think you are still saying the same thing, and this is a norm with casinos these days. You can see casinos asking for the KYC completion before you start depositing your money, which I believe is the fairest now, just the same way you would see casinos that would allow you to deposit and start betting without asking you for the KYC. But what amazed some customers, or should I call it disgust them is that they might have been playing with the casinos for years before they suddenly asked them for the KYC completion. How off and inconvenient could that be?

This has made them relaxed for too long and might not immediately have the KYC documents in one piece at that time, which could also be a time of pressing withdrawal for some urgent needs. This can hurt truly, but regardless, it is still the fault of the customer in my opinion, one should not be too relaxed with what they will still do sooner or later. The casinos are still within their right to ask for such KYC completion, it's the customer who shouldn't have relaxed that much when they fully know they are betting with KYC casino. But it is off and annoying for a no-KYC casino to ask for KYC when a gambler is either good or wants to withdraw a sizable amount of money. I've read that they do it these days which is not so cool. And the worst part is that some people still take their side, saying it is because regulators are on their necks. Who cares!