Casinos not asking for KYC to register and play, but do require it to withdraw

[EarnOnVictor]

My comment was relied to a user who has said that we should not worry about KYC. If he is so brave to share private data, then why not demonstrate bravery? Personally, I would not share KYC, not on the forum, not to casino. Maybe reputed exchange would be and exception. With the fact that online casino licenses dont cost much, and it isnt costly to open a new casino (compared to exchange), I would avoid giving casinos to much info about myself.

If you can't rely on and trust then there is no reason to share your KYC. But I doubt there is doubt there is a good number of casinos that don't require KYC documents. I am aware of the leakage of KYC documents but I do not think it will affect us too much as our documents can be leaked in various ways out of gambling sites.

And the people who do not want to complete their KYC did not have their documents submitted elsewhere, and would still not mandatorily submit the documents elsewhere in the future? We should not deceive ourselves, this issue of I-do-not-want-to-do-KYC is so outrageous and the reason they often give is a fish-brain kind of excuse. Most of these guys are worth so little financially, to say the least, so why is that so-called privacy? Fine, privacy is your right but people take it far when they are actually dealing with Public engagements. It is not Private for goodness' sake. Think of it, will casinos be busy sharing their data with the public or what? It amazes me if I must say.

As long as I am not a criminal, I do my KYC and it has ever been fine to date. Come to think of it, in this present day, you can't function a bank account without completing the KYC, so how many people are now the victims of such KYC completion and because of it will stop using their bank, or will still not complete another KYC upon opening another bank account? We should all pray that we are not victims of organized crimes, but if anyone is, whether you do KYC or not, your information will be revealed and the perpetrators will strike.

The only downside here is data leaks, and this is happening everywhere, even with the most secure facilities. As long as it is human beings and the computer that are involved in the sorting and for the safekeeping, it can leak. Even with data leaks, I only get prepared for those who I do not know but would contact me. They can't get any useful information from me, which is the angle the data leak is so dangerous for random people whose data are leaked.

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[mak013]

Of course when i said that we mustn`t be afraid of KYC it doesn`t mean that we can post our data on every site. The casino just one more organization that has your data. No one gives you guarantee that it would be safe, but other organizations are the same. And no one casino(except scam of course) don`t plan to share your data for somebody else.

The exact thing with that is we should never get afraid of KYC if we know the platform we are submitting our data is long time running casino which reputation has already been proven for so many years for this we can guarantee our safety.

But if we talk about those new casino then ask a KYC by earliest of our registration or late which other casino do upon requesting a huge withdrawal then we should start to doubt or worry about their request since we don't know how good their security for keeping our private details since if this was been compromised then for sure that we are in big trouble for that.

What problems can you get? Someone in the internet will know your id? I`m sure that someone knows it yet. What they can do with it? Nothing. It is not a problem, that you can`t solve and the same time well-known casino can`t give you guarantee that you data will be safe. Just take care of your phone and credit cards and relax.

[erep]

What problems can you get? Someone in the internet will know your id? I`m sure that someone knows it yet. What they can do with it? Nothing. It is not a problem, that you can`t solve and the same time well-known casino can`t give you guarantee that you data will be safe. Just take care of your phone and credit cards and relax.

If there is only one ID card then nothing can be done but the collision of ID cards can be used for certain things, if you know that black market sites present a lot of personal data sales from hacker activities that hack certain sites to obtain a lot of ID data from targeted countries, there are many Individuals buy this data for certain purposes that lead to support for elections and other things, so be careful about protecting your ID data and if you use an ID card to verify a casino account then choose the best reputable and trusted casino.

[khaled0111]

What problems can you get? Someone in the internet will know your id? I`m sure that someone knows it yet. What they can do with it? Nothing. It is not a problem, that you can`t solve and the same time well-known casino can`t give you guarantee that you data will be safe. Just take care of your phone and credit cards and relax.

It's not just about the possibility of a random person knowing your identity. It's more serious than that.
It's more about copies of your ID, passport, your phone number, address.. and more personal informations ending in the hands of criminals who won't hesitate to use them in their illegal activities.
This is why the darknet market for identity verification documents is so prosperous.

[Dunamisx]

Its a pity now that many sites and accepts the use of any means to verify the identity of their users without making the confirmation if the documents present are real or fake, we have known this over time now that hackers can do anything to achieve all these as long as they are determined to attack, it time the gambling platforms also have to device some means of knowing the real and genuine means if identification they received.

[Bitinity]

What problems can you get? Someone in the internet will know your id? I`m sure that someone knows it yet. What they can do with it? Nothing. It is not a problem, that you can`t solve and the same time well-known casino can`t give you guarantee that you data will be safe. Just take care of your phone and credit cards and relax.

You seems to be making this thing so easy while there can be many possible cases that may happen with our ID. What they can do with our ID? Maybe you need to find some news about it. Here in my country, people can easily get an online loan just by photo of our ID. Lets say a casino where we play is compromised and all data is stolen. Then the hacker use my ID to get an online loan, who do you think that will be in charge to repay the loan? It is me who will be asked to repay the loan, the debt collector know my address and may come to my house and my neighbors may hear about it then it can be something bad for me although I'm not the one who take the loan. It is not imaginary example but it is real story in my city where some people become a victim of this stolen ID card. It is not just about our data, but our data can be used for criminal actions and we can be victim of it. Of course it is your right if you dont care about such possible thing but you also need to appreciate others who have different point of view.

[leonair]

What problems can you get? Someone in the internet will know your id? I`m sure that someone knows it yet. What they can do with it? Nothing. It is not a problem, that you can`t solve and the same time well-known casino can`t give you guarantee that you data will be safe. Just take care of your phone and credit cards and relax.

It's not just about the possibility of a random person knowing your identity. It's more serious than that.
It's more about copies of your ID, passport, your phone number, address.. and more personal informations ending in the hands of criminals who won't hesitate to use them in their illegal activities.
This is why the darknet market for identity verification documents is so prosperous.

To avoid such panic always use a reputable casino site that can be trusted without doubt that they will not sell the kyc documents on the black market. Although all sites promise to encrypt kyc documents but how can we trust a new site and do kyc there. for this reason it is a good idea to at least use old and reputable sites for gambling. And since gambling is a very risky thing, always be a responsible gambler.

[avp2306]

What problems can you get? Someone in the internet will know your id? I`m sure that someone knows it yet. What they can do with it? Nothing. It is not a problem, that you can`t solve and the same time well-known casino can`t give you guarantee that you data will be safe. Just take care of your phone and credit cards and relax.

It's not just about the possibility of a random person knowing your identity. It's more serious than that.
It's more about copies of your ID, passport, your phone number, address.. and more personal informations ending in the hands of criminals who won't hesitate to use them in their illegal activities.
This is why the darknet market for identity verification documents is so prosperous.

To avoid such panic always use a reputable casino site that can be trusted without doubt that they will not sell the kyc documents on the black market. Although all sites promise to encrypt kyc documents but how can we trust a new site and do kyc there. for this reason it is a good idea to at least use old and reputable sites for gambling. And since gambling is a very risky thing, always be a responsible gambler.

Automatically this should be done by gamblers since for choosing this reputable casinos will not give them them a problem. But I'm still fine with other new casino want to compete in the market as long as they are open or transparent on saying that they might require a KYC in future and they have legal license to operate since that justify all there. What really been so shady there is if those new casino will say that they don't require KYC but when they read their TOS it say something that there's something that might trigger for a user to submit this requirement then they are totally doing some misleading act to their clients at start so that how they became shady.

[Russlenat]

Automatically this should be done by gamblers since for choosing this reputable casinos will not give them them a problem. But I'm still fine with other new casino want to compete in the market as long as they are open or transparent on saying that they might require a KYC in future and they have legal license to operate since that justify all there. What really been so shady there is if those new casino will say that they don't require KYC but when they read their TOS it say something that there's something that might trigger for a user to submit this requirement then they are totally doing some misleading act to their clients at start so that how they became shady.

You'll see a lot of that in the market, what they are promoting is different from the actual. They are desperate enough so they would just lie and then uses the TOS to freeze the funds of the winning gamblers. If we are okay with not having a KYC, then we should not think of winning big as that usually could trigger the KYC. Some of us can't pass on KYC for some reasons, but we have to be aware that this KYC thing has existed already the moment a casino acquires a license.

We can't complain by saying, they didn't ask for KYC before, why now? They own the casino, they have the rules that we gamblers agree to follow, so it's up to them when they'll implement that rules. They will only look bad if they implement a rules that is not on the TOS, or not based on standards in the industry.

[LUCKMCFLY]

The only downside here is data leaks, and this is happening everywhere, even with the most secure facilities. As long as it is human beings and the computer that are involved in the sorting and for the safekeeping, it can leak. Even with data leaks, I only get prepared for those who I do not know but would contact me. They can't get any useful information from me, which is the angle the data leak is so dangerous for random people whose data are leaked.

Data leakage is the main reason why you can be the target of a criminal, to arrive at your house with total security that you use crypto and they have it taken away from you anyway, a long time ago I saw how in Russia a person published something I don't remember what it was, what I know is what they did to him because they saw that he had his bitcoin address and when they saw he had considerable money, what did the criminals do? They arrived at his house, they made him break into his computer and transfer those bitcoins to a new wallet, because they arrived and pointed a gun at his head, what did they do? They stole it and the criminals left as if nothing had happened, but why did this happen? Because of the data leak, there are many people who are dedicated to these things, they are capable of doing anything for money, and if this happened in Russia, it means that it can happen anywhere in the world.

[mak013]

What problems can you get? Someone in the internet will know your id? I`m sure that someone knows it yet. What they can do with it? Nothing. It is not a problem, that you can`t solve and the same time well-known casino can`t give you guarantee that you data will be safe. Just take care of your phone and credit cards and relax.

If there is only one ID card then nothing can be done but the collision of ID cards can be used for certain things, if you know that black market sites present a lot of personal data sales from hacker activities that hack certain sites to obtain a lot of ID data from targeted countries, there are many Individuals buy this data for certain purposes that lead to support for elections and other things, so be careful about protecting your ID data and if you use an ID card to verify a casino account then choose the best reputable and trusted casino.

As i said - some time ago i had find ID card of my friend , who don`t use internet, even mobile on darknet market. His data has only federal services.

What problems can you get? Someone in the internet will know your id? I`m sure that someone knows it yet. What they can do with it? Nothing. It is not a problem, that you can`t solve and the same time well-known casino can`t give you guarantee that you data will be safe. Just take care of your phone and credit cards and relax.

It's not just about the possibility of a random person knowing your identity. It's more serious than that.
It's more about copies of your ID, passport, your phone number, address.. and more personal informations ending in the hands of criminals who won't hesitate to use them in their illegal activities.
This is why the darknet market for identity verification documents is so prosperous.

I understand it. But i`m sure that there is the huge quantity of personal data on each of us right now. And it doesn`t depends on KYC. Banks, big companies, mobile operators - they all lose data. It doesn`t means that we must share our data with everybody, but we mustn`t afraid KYC.

What problems can you get? Someone in the internet will know your id? I`m sure that someone knows it yet. What they can do with it? Nothing. It is not a problem, that you can`t solve and the same time well-known casino can`t give you guarantee that you data will be safe. Just take care of your phone and credit cards and relax.

You seems to be making this thing so easy while there can be many possible cases that may happen with our ID. What they can do with our ID? Maybe you need to find some news about it. Here in my country, people can easily get an online loan just by photo of our ID. Lets say a casino where we play is compromised and all data is stolen. Then the hacker use my ID to get an online loan, who do you think that will be in charge to repay the loan? It is me who will be asked to repay the loan, the debt collector know my address and may come to my house and my neighbors may hear about it then it can be something bad for me although I'm not the one who take the loan. It is not imaginary example but it is real story in my city where some people become a victim of this stolen ID card. It is not just about our data, but our data can be used for criminal actions and we can be victim of it. Of course it is your right if you dont care about such possible thing but you also need to appreciate others who have different point of view.

I know about such situations and know about the result of them. The banks closed credits when they proved that they didn`t get money.
I understand the other point of view, but here the main part is afraid of KYC, so may be i cry to loud, but in other way no one hear me.

[EarnOnVictor]

The only downside here is data leaks, and this is happening everywhere, even with the most secure facilities. As long as it is human beings and the computer that are involved in the sorting and for the safekeeping, it can leak. Even with data leaks, I only get prepared for those who I do not know but would contact me. They can't get any useful information from me, which is the angle the data leak is so dangerous for random people whose data are leaked.

Data leakage is the main reason why you can be the target of a criminal, to arrive at your house with total security that you use crypto and they have it taken away from you anyway, a long time ago I saw how in Russia a person published something I don't remember what it was, what I know is what they did to him because they saw that he had his bitcoin address and when they saw he had considerable money, what did the criminals do? They arrived at his house, they made him break into his computer and transfer those bitcoins to a new wallet, because they arrived and pointed a gun at his head, what did they do? They stole it and the criminals left as if nothing had happened, but why did this happen? Because of the data leak, there are many people who are dedicated to these things, they are capable of doing anything for money, and if this happened in Russia, it means that it can happen anywhere in the world.

I pray we are not a victim of data leak violence, the data leak is bad and it could lead to anything. Nevertheless, completing our KYC is not an automatic way to leak our data, which was my main point in that post. Fine, data can be leaked through the self-serving activities of some unscrupulous employees, regardless, it is not always rampant and the direct threat to the victim of the data leak is not always huge if the person is wise enough not to disclose his further information upon contacting him on the telephone or online, and by not clicking unsolicited emails and links and sharing of codes. I have never heard that a data leak through the KYC of a reputable company has caused physical contact and an attack on the person, and even if it is happening, the case is so little to the point it is not always known.

This is the same as having a bank account, we have a lot of people's details with banks and many of these people are high-net-worth individuals and big companies owners. Most of these guys are regular guys we see daily, but still, they are not always being attacked or harassed because they do KYC with their bank and also for the fact that they live an expensive life. This is even as bank employees could also compromise but yet, they are not being harassed due to such.

What you explained is the case of a lousy person attracting everyone to himself on social media, including criminals. This has nothing to do with any company or the KYC completion, so what do you expect? Anything can happen to such a person, even the most worthless criminals may do the operation of locating him or his house and perpetrate the evil easily. What am I trying to establish? The data leaks are minimal and so are their threats compared to how some people take it, and data could be leaked even with the government-secured facilities. Even without KYC, one can be a victim of an organised crime, we should only pray we are not the victim of such a calculated crime.

[betswift]

I don't see KYC as threatening or unreliable. Of course, this can be a little annoying, especially when these checks appear right before the withdrawal of money, but in general, KYC procedures can significantly increase the feeling of safety and fairness for players.

[kotajikikox]

I don't see KYC as threatening or unreliable. Of course, this can be a little annoying, especially when these checks appear right before the withdrawal of money, but in general, KYC procedures can significantly increase the feeling of safety and fairness for players.

KYC nowadays is never been an issue but the topic here says about the casino pretending to be not asking but after withdrawal they will ask you for it and that comes the fooling in which we have seen multiple times that those BS casino is doing though i believe that their popularity starts losing and yeah this forum is the instrument for them to face defeat from their own foolishnes.

[arwin100]

I don't see KYC as threatening or unreliable. Of course, this can be a little annoying, especially when these checks appear right before the withdrawal of money, but in general, KYC procedures can significantly increase the feeling of safety and fairness for players.

You should say that it depends on the casino asking this since if the reputable casino will ask this KYC requirement to their user since there are sudden changes happen that they can't avoid to happen then its good for user to comply with the requirements done since for sure that there's nothing gonna happen to them.

But if the casino which ask this requirement is unknown to us or they just newly launch their service here and immediately required a KYC requirement before they can access all the features they then maybe this might be different to take since for sure that we will doubt on their reliability. But they are way more better than those casino who said that they would never ask a KYC to people who would try to gamble in their casino but when requesting something especially a withdrawal they would ask this and leave people no choice but to do that is more shady casino to choose.

[bettercrypto]

What problems can you get? Someone in the internet will know your id? I`m sure that someone knows it yet. What they can do with it? Nothing. It is not a problem, that you can`t solve and the same time well-known casino can`t give you guarantee that you data will be safe. Just take care of your phone and credit cards and relax.

If there is only one ID card then nothing can be done but the collision of ID cards can be used for certain things, if you know that black market sites present a lot of personal data sales from hacker activities that hack certain sites to obtain a lot of ID data from targeted countries, there are many Individuals buy this data for certain purposes that lead to support for elections and other things, so be careful about protecting your ID data and if you use an ID card to verify a casino account then choose the best reputable and trusted casino.

That's right, if we are going to pass KYC to a casino, it should be a sure-reputable casino in this field of crypto space. Do not pass kyc to a casino that is new or less than 1 year in this industry. Especially if the established community in the industry like the one we live in is small.

Maybe because of that, our personal identifications will only be used for bad purposes in this field, actually. Maybe you don't know about the people who are wanted in other countries.

[betswift]

I don't see KYC as threatening or unreliable. Of course, this can be a little annoying, especially when these checks appear right before the withdrawal of money, but in general, KYC procedures can significantly increase the feeling of safety and fairness for players.

KYC nowadays is never been an issue but the topic here says about the casino pretending to be not asking but after withdrawal they will ask you for it and that comes the fooling in which we have seen multiple times that those BS casino is doing though i believe that their popularity starts losing and yeah this forum is the instrument for them to face defeat from their own foolishnes.

oh, I see. Of course, everything should be done wisely.

I don't see KYC as threatening or unreliable. Of course, this can be a little annoying, especially when these checks appear right before the withdrawal of money, but in general, KYC procedures can significantly increase the feeling of safety and fairness for players.

You should say that it depends on the casino asking this since if the reputable casino will ask this KYC requirement to their user since there are sudden changes happen that they can't avoid to happen then its good for user to comply with the requirements done since for sure that there's nothing gonna happen to them.

But if the casino which ask this requirement is unknown to us or they just newly launch their service here and immediately required a KYC requirement before they can access all the features they then maybe this might be different to take since for sure that we will doubt on their reliability. But they are way more better than those casino who said that they would never ask a KYC to people who would try to gamble in their casino but when requesting something especially a withdrawal they would ask this and leave people no choice but to do that is more shady casino to choose.

What problems can you get? Someone in the internet will know your id? I`m sure that someone knows it yet. What they can do with it? Nothing. It is not a problem, that you can`t solve and the same time well-known casino can`t give you guarantee that you data will be safe. Just take care of your phone and credit cards and relax.

If there is only one ID card then nothing can be done but the collision of ID cards can be used for certain things, if you know that black market sites present a lot of personal data sales from hacker activities that hack certain sites to obtain a lot of ID data from targeted countries, there are many Individuals buy this data for certain purposes that lead to support for elections and other things, so be careful about protecting your ID data and if you use an ID card to verify a casino account then choose the best reputable and trusted casino.

That's right, if we are going to pass KYC to a casino, it should be a sure-reputable casino in this field of crypto space. Do not pass kyc to a casino that is new or less than 1 year in this industry. Especially if the established community in the industry like the one we live in is small.

Maybe because of that, our personal identifications will only be used for bad purposes in this field, actually. Maybe you don't know about the people who are wanted in other countries.

yes you are right it really depends on the casino. But it seems to me that use KYC is usually conditioned by compliance with certain legal norms (these legal norms can be dictated either by the license or by the country where these casinos operate). So this isn't just their wish, but a necessary requirement. Otherwise, it would be strange that new casinos cannot check their players until they gain a rating and trust.

[Dunamisx]

And the people who do not want to complete their KYC did not have their documents submitted elsewhere, and would still not mandatorily submit the documents elsewhere in the future? We should not deceive ourselves, this issue of I-do-not-want-to-do-KYC is so outrageous and the reason they often give is a fish-brain kind of excuse. Most of these guys are worth so little financially, to say the least, so why is that so-called privacy? Fine, privacy is your right but people take it far when they are actually dealing with Public engagements. It is not Private for goodness' sake. Think of it, will casinos be busy sharing their data with the public or what? It amazes me if I must say.

I see no reason why i can choose to use a kyc gambling casino and when the time comes for them to demand for these information's then i begin to feels bad and disappointed, who should be at fault here, if one is truly the bearer of the account them giving all necessary information's shouldn't be a problem to gamblers, but many wouldn't come here to tell one or two reasons why they cant afford to give those information's because they know that they are trying to do some shady stuffs downward that is unclear to the public.

[leonair]

I don't see KYC as threatening or unreliable. Of course, this can be a little annoying, especially when these checks appear right before the withdrawal of money, but in general, KYC procedures can significantly increase the feeling of safety and fairness for players.

KYC nowadays is never been an issue but the topic here says about the casino pretending to be not asking but after withdrawal they will ask you for it and that comes the fooling in which we have seen multiple times that those BS casino is doing though i believe that their popularity starts losing and yeah this forum is the instrument for them to face defeat from their own foolishnes.

Yes people don't see KYC as a big and serious issue now.  So it's not a big problem. but a major problem for gamblers is that they cannot control themselves due to which they gamble for long periods of time due to which they become deeply addicted to gambling. And such activities hurt them a lot. so for gambling one should develop oneself as a conscious gambler without blaming the gambling sites for anything.

[danadc]

I don't see KYC as threatening or unreliable. Of course, this can be a little annoying, especially when these checks appear right before the withdrawal of money, but in general, KYC procedures can significantly increase the feeling of safety and fairness for players.

You should say that it depends on the casino asking this since if the reputable casino will ask this KYC requirement to their user since there are sudden changes happen that they can't avoid to happen then its good for user to comply with the requirements done since for sure that there's nothing gonna happen to them.

But if the casino which ask this requirement is unknown to us or they just newly launch their service here and immediately required a KYC requirement before they can access all the features they then maybe this might be different to take since for sure that we will doubt on their reliability. But they are way more better than those casino who said that they would never ask a KYC to people who would try to gamble in their casino but when requesting something especially a withdrawal they would ask this and leave people no choice but to do that is more shady casino to choose.

It is difficult to do an analysis when they are relatively new casinos and trust them, KYC in casinos is something very delicate, I don't do it all at once, in fact every new casino always asks for new things, like identification, phone number and some more information, but only for registration, at the time of withdrawal the requirements are different, so these types of things are what we must think carefully about if we get into this, because depositing money implies that we have previously read After all, we have analyzed it and then accepted those conditions for the time being, I have learned a lot because the cases are new, it is best to wait for reviews from the people who are more experts in this field.

I will always use the casinos that have the best reputation and highest trust index, this is because I have had unpleasant experiences in other casinos.