Casinos not asking for KYC to register and play, but do require it to withdraw

[gunhell16]

The gambler who want to have the smooth withdrawal after the win need to do the Kyc for the withdrawal.The crypto currency based exchanges itself ask the traders to do the Kyc for the withdrawal.So the gamblers should do not consider it as an Oxford things,they need to do the kyc at the time of the registration of the gambling site.

Instead of doing the KYC at the time of withdrawal, isn't better that the gamblers do the KYC before the deposit ? If we can do the KYC before the deposits, it can save a lot of complications at the time of withdrawals and you can have piece of mind. Sometimes if you do not have performed the KYC and your withdrawal amount is big one (in case you have won a lot while gambling), then what if the gambling site never approve your KYC so that they would not have to withdraw your big funds. At that time, you will be helpless.

Also, you need to read the terms and conditions of the gambling site carefully. If they allow withdrawals without KYC, then you may proceed playing without the KYC but in other cases, if it is explicitly written that you will be needing the KYC for withdrawal, try to do KYC at earliest. You simply cannot avoid it.

I guess what you meant was that I don't see any additional hassle when it comes time for the gambler to withdraw; he won't have to go through the process of submitting the KYC because he has already done so since the start of his casino play.

To be honest, I agree that as long as the casino is legitimate, this is an area in which I can increase my trust in the casino platform. It shouldn't be a significant concern in terms of KYC.

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[EarnOnVictor]

The gambler who want to have the smooth withdrawal after the win need to do the Kyc for the withdrawal.The crypto currency based exchanges itself ask the traders to do the Kyc for the withdrawal.So the gamblers should do not consider it as an Oxford things,they need to do the kyc at the time of the registration of the gambling site.

Instead of doing the KYC at the time of withdrawal, isn't better that the gamblers do the KYC before the deposit ? If we can do the KYC before the deposits, it can save a lot of complications at the time of withdrawals and you can have piece of mind. Sometimes if you do not have performed the KYC and your withdrawal amount is big one (in case you have won a lot while gambling), then what if the gambling site never approve your KYC so that they would not have to withdraw your big funds. At that time, you will be helpless.

Also, you need to read the terms and conditions of the gambling site carefully. If they allow withdrawals without KYC, then you may proceed playing without the KYC but in other cases, if it is explicitly written that you will be needing the KYC for withdrawal, try to do KYC at earliest. You simply cannot avoid it.

I guess what you meant was that I don't see any additional hassle when it comes time for the gambler to withdraw; he won't have to go through the process of submitting the KYC because he has already done so since the start of his casino play.

To be honest, I agree that as long as the casino is legitimate, this is an area in which I can increase my trust in the casino platform. It shouldn't be a significant concern in terms of KYC.

My advice for everyone is to go with your first option and not let anyone drop coldness in your heart about this as it is the right thing to do, no controversy about this unless the casino is a no-KYC type. Have you ever seen any company you can trust 100%? That is why we should be wise, this issue of the reputation and integrity of a company are relative and it might not happen to all but that doesn't mean that it can't happen at all, so let's safeguard it. To date, I have not been a victim of any company, and this is partly due to how I deal with them. I follow the rules and do my KYC at the beginning of the registration to avoid issues. The same thing goes for those who followed by lead.

But still, I do read and hear stories of how some people are being treated unfairly by the same company I work successfully with. This means that they might be doing something wrong that I do right. One of the issues is this KYC, they could frustrate some people simply because they didn't do the KYC on time, but this would have been avoided if they had done it from the beginning. Many would say otherwise about this, but you should ignore them and keep on doing it and leave them to their later fate with the casino as some often face it in an ugly way.

[2Pizza410000BTC]

That where I don't like, if they are not asking for KYC at the point of registration then they should not ask again in the withdrawal time. Because asking at the registration time is much more better than the withdrawal because at the registration time everything is very simple the customer only provide the basic documents and start using the account but when they ask it in the withdrawal time, I don't probably they don't want you to withdraw your personal money, the documents they will ask will be more and if any of the documents is not clear or missing they ban your account but this can not happened in the registration time.

They never stop the depositing process because they want money. And one thing they don't know that when the withdrawal is good then the casino will move well.

I agree with your opinion because if a casino requires KYC then KYC materials should be provided first. If the KYC system is provided in the beginning then it is easy for every user, and one of the reasons for the ease is if there are too many strict rules for doing KYC then maybe many users will not be able to do that KYC so they will not participate in gambling on that platform. But here I don't understand why the OP joined such a complicated casino to have a much simpler casino platform. There are many trusted casino sites where no KYC is required during withdrawals and all casino platforms are best to participate in. But it is true that casino platforms should have simple rules or else customers will not want to participate.

[magneto]

This is a classic thing that shady businesses do. It is completely illogical, given that if they were required by legislation to get your personal details, they should have done so prior to letting you sign up and deposit. Their whole object from the get go is to get a free option to make you lose money. If you lose, then nothing happens to your account. And if you win, then they will restrict your account, and make you KYC.

They do this with full knowledge that there is very few people that actually trust these online casinos to handle their private info responsibly.

Unfortunately, this is a risk that people have to put up with when playing online, especially at a crypto casino. No matter how reputable a company is, there is always some probability that they pull this.

[Dunamisx]

To be honest, I agree that as long as the casino is legitimate, this is an area in which I can increase my trust in the casino platform. It shouldn't be a significant concern in terms of KYC.

When a gambling casino is not requesting for KYC from the beginning, it shows the extent of how they could go far in helping us through the way we could start with them having no issues, the next thing that should be done is when they also requested for these informations, then we shouldn't hesitate in giving them as required, but in most cases, we took them for granted and denied them the right they have turned a privilege on us.

[BenCodie]

This is a classic thing that shady businesses do. It is completely illogical, given that if they were required by legislation to get your personal details, they should have done so prior to letting you sign up and deposit. Their whole object from the get go is to get a free option to make you lose money. If you lose, then nothing happens to your account. And if you win, then they will restrict your account, and make you KYC.

They do this with full knowledge that there is very few people that actually trust these online casinos to handle their private info responsibly.

Unfortunately, this is a risk that people have to put up with when playing online, especially at a crypto casino. No matter how reputable a company is, there is always some probability that they pull this.

I'm glad that someone else is advocating against this practice which is being used consistently by casinos on this board. I see this being validated case by case when there are reports about KYC or about accounts being frozen/locked.

They do this with full knowledge that there is very few people that actually trust these online casinos to handle their private info responsibly.

...and this is exactly the idea. As well as this, in the event that you do attempt to do KYC, they won't just ask for a photo or a scan of your identity to prove it these days, they'll make you video yourself, video your with withdrawals to prove source of funds, and virtually humiliate you alongside stripping you of any form of privacy.

Unfortunately, this is a risk that people have to put up with when playing online, especially at a crypto casino. No matter how reputable a company is, there is always some probability that they pull this.

Unfortunately, this is true. Until there is a strong enough collective pushing the change, casinos will keep on doing what they've been able to do without consequence for the foreseeable future.

[Bushdark]

To be honest, I agree that as long as the casino is legitimate, this is an area in which I can increase my trust in the casino platform. It shouldn't be a significant concern in terms of KYC.

When a gambling casino is not requesting for KYC from the beginning, it shows the extent of how they could go far in helping us through the way we could start with them having no issues, the next thing that should be done is when they also requested for these informations, then we shouldn't hesitate in giving them as required, but in most cases, we took them for granted and denied them the right they have turned a privilege on us.

There are some things we need to learn and understand before even choosing a casino to bet on.
This is one of the reasons why gambler's would keep complaining and ending up using a bad casino after so many bad complains from other gamblers that might have use a particular casino and had bad experience. We need to always ask questions and do research so that we will not comeback matter to complain of a casino taking our funds with any wrong going.

[paxmao]

To be honest, I agree that as long as the casino is legitimate, this is an area in which I can increase my trust in the casino platform. It shouldn't be a significant concern in terms of KYC.

When a gambling casino is not requesting for KYC from the beginning, it shows the extent of how they could go far in helping us through the way we could start with them having no issues, the next thing that should be done is when they also requested for these informations, then we shouldn't hesitate in giving them as required, but in most cases, we took them for granted and denied them the right they have turned a privilege on us.

There are some things we need to learn and understand before even choosing a casino to bet on.
This is one of the reasons why gambler's would keep complaining and ending up using a bad casino after so many bad complains from other gamblers that might have use a particular casino and had bad experience. We need to always ask questions and do research so that we will not comeback matter to complain of a casino taking our funds with any wrong going.

That is correct I think, it is of little use to play first and then find out and complain. There are many review sites and there are many people on the forum that will provide their experience, critics and opinions for free, so if one chooses not to apply this minimum level of research - not just for gambling, but even for any crypto thing - then well... no right to complaint I guess.

[Oilacris]

To be honest, I agree that as long as the casino is legitimate, this is an area in which I can increase my trust in the casino platform. It shouldn't be a significant concern in terms of KYC.

When a gambling casino is not requesting for KYC from the beginning, it shows the extent of how they could go far in helping us through the way we could start with them having no issues, the next thing that should be done is when they also requested for these informations, then we shouldn't hesitate in giving them as required, but in most cases, we took them for granted and denied them the right they have turned a privilege on us.

There are some things we need to learn and understand before even choosing a casino to bet on.
This is one of the reasons why gambler's would keep complaining and ending up using a bad casino after so many bad complains from other gamblers that might have use a particular casino and had bad experience. We need to always ask questions and do research so that we will not comeback matter to complain of a casino taking our funds with any wrong going.

That is correct I think, it is of little use to play first and then find out and complain. There are many review sites and there are many people on the forum that will provide their experience, critics and opinions for free, so if one chooses not to apply this minimum level of research - not just for gambling, but even for any crypto thing - then well... no right to complaint I guess.

It doesnt really cost you an arm and leg on making up some research first before you would really be that deciding to play or not on a particular platform. It would really be just that right that you should really be that be wary on the things thats happening around. You cant really just that be confident on throwing up  your bucks or funds into some sites which it doesnt really have that credibility
when it comes to reputation on which it would really be normal that you might really be that ending up on hovering yourself into those unknown sites on which you might be ending up on dealing with a scam site on which it would really be causing for you to lose money. This is why it would be best that you should do your research at least.

[passwordnow]

Damn, this is a pretty shitty practice. Like, I use Dplay and XFUN atm, and they do keep their promise as far as KYC not being required to deposit or withdraw funds. I imagine I'd be pretty pisses if anything else were to happen.

I haven't heard about that casino but if they're not asking you for KYC so that's fine. You continue your fun there and you withdraw your profits whenever you want it to be and when it is necessary. But when there's a casino that has asked for it, you're not going to complain because most of them are requiring people to kyc and that's also making them follow the rules where they are found on.

The casinos that ask for it making it sure that no money laundering is happening on them and that's for the safety of their company and business. But as we all know about it, this can't be stopped and it can happen everywhere where people can abuse and use them for doing so, so this is a step that they're doing to stop it from happening and whoever is doing that will be known with the method of having his/her kyc.

[Yaunfitda]

To be honest, I agree that as long as the casino is legitimate, this is an area in which I can increase my trust in the casino platform. It shouldn't be a significant concern in terms of KYC.

When a gambling casino is not requesting for KYC from the beginning, it shows the extent of how they could go far in helping us through the way we could start with them having no issues, the next thing that should be done is when they also requested for these informations, then we shouldn't hesitate in giving them as required, but in most cases, we took them for granted and denied them the right they have turned a privilege on us.

There are some things we need to learn and understand before even choosing a casino to bet on.
This is one of the reasons why gambler's would keep complaining and ending up using a bad casino after so many bad complains from other gamblers that might have use a particular casino and had bad experience. We need to always ask questions and do research so that we will not comeback matter to complain of a casino taking our funds with any wrong going.

Right, we should do our due diligence in playing in any casinos, specially KYC, withdrawals as it is very important to understand them as later we might have a issues, just like what we are seeing here. Specially The ToS, which usually address dispute resolution mechanisms and the process for addressing customer complaints. Knowing how disputes are resolved and the availability of customer support can be essential in case issues arise during your gambling experience. As far as KYC goes though, I think we all know that when crypto really took the center stage, everything has change for us. Before we just need our Bitcoin address to withdraw and deposit. And even if we have big wins, we are not required to send personal documents and what not. So it's very important to us that if we play on online casinos now, there are chances that they will ask for a mandatory KYC to be able to withdraw.

[CODE200]

Casinos do not hide their KYC verification it will be utterly silly of them. Before you make a deposit or if you want to know, they have an active customer support chat box that you can use to ask them about KYC verification inside of having an assumption that it is hidden. I blame Gambler for not having the common sense to use the search button to check for KYC verification, or even reading the terms and conditions, or lastly even asking their support agent about KYC.

Silly yes but given how it's a thing that they've done in the past means that they don't care too much that it looks silly or stupid to us that they're doing it. Customer support doesn't really give you big help even if you ask them the right and specific questions, they almost always end up not being able to answer it because they've got a script and that they're likely not finding your questions in their scripts and I don't think they'll like divulge the information that the casino that they're working for have a sneaky KYC policy, at best they might tell you something but the problem is that it's likely a obscure and confusing answers. Blame them all you want but businesses should be honest with what they're doing because once the truth comes out, they won't know what's going to happen next for them.

I have to agree with you, actually, there have been an Instance where a gambler who just signed up on gambling casino reached out to the Customer support of that same casino to inquire if it's OK if he uses a VPN to play on the casino, the customer care answered yes, that the gambler is free to use vpn on their casino.

The gambler then turned on his vpn and played on the casino for several hours before leaving, the next day, he came back to discover that his account has been locked and even the funds on his account forfeited, he reached to them and he was told that he's been banned for going against the casinos terms and conditions, when he asked what he did that is against the casino's term and conditions, he was told he user VPN to play, that vpn usage on the casino is not allowed.

Long story short, after back and forth argument, it turned out that the customer care who told the gambler to go ahead and use VPN seems to not know the terms and conditions of the casino he or she is working for.

Customer care personnels can't be completely trusted.

That's too bad, how was the person that got into this pinch? It seems that this is the casino's fault because there's no way that you can't man up when you're the one that screwed up in the first place. I wouldn't say that it's the total fault of the customer care support though, I do feel like they just lack the training and that the people that should be managing them aren't doing their job, I think that it's the responsibility of the people that's on the management side to train their people and do an up to date retraining so they can't experience any problems because sometimes there are scenarios in customer support that don't happen very often which ends with having them end forgetting what to do when it finally happens. I don't get the point of banning someone for using VPN, it's basically just a tunnel where you switch your country of origin, what's the big deal if they use it?

[LUCKMCFLY]

Casinos do not hide their KYC verification it will be utterly silly of them. Before you make a deposit or if you want to know, they have an active customer support chat box that you can use to ask them about KYC verification inside of having an assumption that it is hidden. I blame Gambler for not having the common sense to use the search button to check for KYC verification, or even reading the terms and conditions, or lastly even asking their support agent about KYC.

Silly yes but given how it's a thing that they've done in the past means that they don't care too much that it looks silly or stupid to us that they're doing it. Customer support doesn't really give you big help even if you ask them the right and specific questions, they almost always end up not being able to answer it because they've got a script and that they're likely not finding your questions in their scripts and I don't think they'll like divulge the information that the casino that they're working for have a sneaky KYC policy, at best they might tell you something but the problem is that it's likely a obscure and confusing answers. Blame them all you want but businesses should be honest with what they're doing because once the truth comes out, they won't know what's going to happen next for them.

I have to agree with you, actually, there have been an Instance where a gambler who just signed up on gambling casino reached out to the Customer support of that same casino to inquire if it's OK if he uses a VPN to play on the casino, the customer care answered yes, that the gambler is free to use vpn on their casino.

The gambler then turned on his vpn and played on the casino for several hours before leaving, the next day, he came back to discover that his account has been locked and even the funds on his account forfeited, he reached to them and he was told that he's been banned for going against the casinos terms and conditions, when he asked what he did that is against the casino's term and conditions, he was told he user VPN to play, that vpn usage on the casino is not allowed.

Long story short, after back and forth argument, it turned out that the customer care who told the gambler to go ahead and use VPN seems to not know the terms and conditions of the casino he or she is working for.

Customer care personnels can't be completely trusted.

That's too bad, how was the person that got into this pinch? It seems that this is the casino's fault because there's no way that you can't man up when you're the one that screwed up in the first place. I wouldn't say that it's the total fault of the customer care support though, I do feel like they just lack the training and that the people that should be managing them aren't doing their job, I think that it's the responsibility of the people that's on the management side to train their people and do an up to date retraining so they can't experience any problems because sometimes there are scenarios in customer support that don't happen very often which ends with having them end forgetting what to do when it finally happens. I don't get the point of banning someone for using VPN, it's basically just a tunnel where you switch your country of origin, what's the big deal if they use it?

?Well, at this point we have to be clear about something, casinos and all casino platforms will always lose KYC verification and that is something that we cannot and should not avoid, so when we are in this way and we see things with KYC can and should be done. What we should do is that when we are not inside the casino, first we should consider doing an investigation, because it is not just anything, trusting in something like this is something that we Should do After reviewing the things that are more corresponding, for example Knowing if the casino is reliable, if the casino has a high reputation and above all if the casino can respond to large wins, if we Respond or have Enough confidence in a casino that can offer us those things , then we are Fine, For the rest, I think things can happen, in this case we just know that we must do things well before getting involved, and I think that is what we should always consider in the casino and for anything in the world. life.

When we are in a casino, we know that we must do the KYC, so here is my usual advice, if I need a casino to give me everything I need, then I need to trust them and if I need to Trust them, it is imperative to do my KYC before to make a deposit already with the deposit made and with the ekl deinro put in the casino, those in the casinos know that the deinr is in them, that it is safe there for them, but not for us, that the only way we multiply it or Let's get it by doing the KYC, and they want to last as long as necessary or make Some buts, it's a Matter of the casino , although it is a dirty play, they can take as long as they Want , so it's up to us when we haven't put any deposit but if we comply with the KYC they are Forced to approve, so that we can pay our money there.

[junder]

To be honest, I agree that as long as the casino is legitimate, this is an area in which I can increase my trust in the casino platform. It shouldn't be a significant concern in terms of KYC.

When a gambling casino is not requesting for KYC from the beginning, it shows the extent of how they could go far in helping us through the way we could start with them having no issues, the next thing that should be done is when they also requested for these informations, then we shouldn't hesitate in giving them as required, but in most cases, we took them for granted and denied them the right they have turned a privilege on us.

There are some things we need to learn and understand before even choosing a casino to bet on.
This is one of the reasons why gambler's would keep complaining and ending up using a bad casino after so many bad complains from other gamblers that might have use a particular casino and had bad experience. We need to always ask questions and do research so that we will not comeback matter to complain of a casino taking our funds with any wrong going.

that's right, in my opinion we can see whether a casino is good or not in the reviews, with the caveat that we have to be willing to read the terms and conditions, because most people are lazy to look at this they tend not to pay attention to this, and what they are most likely to look at is the appearance . and in my opinion there are people who complain when they have problems with their gambling, I think it's natural that they experience that because they don't pay attention to what they should pay attention to.

If they can see the things they need to pay attention to well, maybe they won't experience anything bad. I think many of them experience bad things or problems with gambling because they themselves cannot see or determine which casinos have a good or bad reputation.

[cabron]

To be honest, I agree that as long as the casino is legitimate, this is an area in which I can increase my trust in the casino platform. It shouldn't be a significant concern in terms of KYC.

When a gambling casino is not requesting for KYC from the beginning, it shows the extent of how they could go far in helping us through the way we could start with them having no issues, the next thing that should be done is when they also requested for these informations, then we shouldn't hesitate in giving them as required, but in most cases, we took them for granted and denied them the right they have turned a privilege on us.

There are some things we need to learn and understand before even choosing a casino to bet on.
This is one of the reasons why gambler's would keep complaining and ending up using a bad casino after so many bad complains from other gamblers that might have use a particular casino and had bad experience. We need to always ask questions and do research so that we will not comeback matter to complain of a casino taking our funds with any wrong going.

that's right, in my opinion we can see whether a casino is good or not in the reviews, with the caveat that we have to be willing to read the terms and conditions, because most people are lazy to look at this they tend not to pay attention to this, and what they are most likely to look at is the appearance . and in my opinion there are people who complain when they have problems with their gambling, I think it's natural that they experience that because they don't pay attention to what they should pay attention to.

If they can see the things they need to pay attention to well, maybe they won't experience anything bad. I think many of them experience bad things or problems with gambling because they themselves cannot see or determine which casinos have a good or bad reputation.

I could understand if the government really requires them to ask KYC and documents regardless of how much the amount you have in your account. But if a number of reputable casinos don't do this and they don't then they are not worth the loyalty. Just stay on the reputable casinos in crypto because you can be assured submitting documents to them is not as risky as sending them to an unknown platform.

They are already deceiving users from the beginning so it wouldn't be surprising if they turn scams later on.

[ScamViruS]

I could understand if the government really requires them to ask KYC and documents regardless of how much the amount you have in your account. But if a number of reputable casinos don't do this and they don't then they are not worth the loyalty. Just stay on the reputable casinos in crypto because you can be assured submitting documents to them is not as risky as sending them to an unknown platform.

They are already deceiving users from the beginning so it wouldn't be surprising if they turn scams later on.

There are many reputable casinos that have been in business for a long time and are giving importance to their customers. But many a times gamblers choose casinos with bad reputation instead of joining these casinos, as a result of which they face big problems later on.

I agree with you, it is risky to do KYC by sharing your personal information with any bad reputation casino, because no one knows what will happen to that information later. Because many times it is seen online that people's personal information is leaked from various websites. So to stay away from such situations, the gambler must be careful in selecting the casino.

[khaled0111]

44 pages! This us more than 880 replies and this thread hasn't been locked yet!
I didn't read all the replies but I know that I didn't muss anything important, unfortunately.
Guys, you need to learn a lot about rules and regulations before judging if a casino is a fraud or not. Just because a service provider asks you to verify your identity, doesn't mean they are a scam.

[Ludmilla_rose1995]

this is a scam.. i mean how can a gambling site fool its users allowing deposits without KYC but requiring KYC when withdrawing

I don't want to use a gambling site that has never been reviewed in this forum, this is the purpose of this forum, we can see up to date reviews without being covered up and manipulated, See how when there is a gambling site that is a scam, their site account will definitely get a red flag

[Oilacris]

this is a scam.. i mean how can a gambling site fool its users allowing deposits without KYC but requiring KYC when withdrawing

I don't want to use a gambling site that has never been reviewed in this forum, this is the purpose of this forum, we can see up to date reviews without being covered up and manipulated, See how when there is a gambling site that is a scam, their site account will definitely get a red flag

Totally a scam and this is where you would really be needing to make up at least some research before making any deposits and this forum would be the best place for you to check out
whether you are dealing with a legit site or not. Majority of people would really be making out some research only on the time that they would be experiencing those bad things
but they havent been able to do it before and just do it after. This is why it would really be that best that you should really at least having that research before
making some further step. You are the ones who would really be that responsible on the actions that you are making.

[erep]

Totally a scam and this is where you would really be needing to make up at least some research before making any deposits and this forum would be the best place for you to check out
whether you are dealing with a legit site or not. Majority of people would really be making out some research only on the time that they would be experiencing those bad things
but they havent been able to do it before and just do it after. This is why it would really be that best that you should really at least having that research before
making some further step. You are the ones who would really be that responsible on the actions that you are making.

Yes, the majority of people ignore the preferences and reviews that have been discussed in gambling threads before they register on a particular casino site, but once they experience problems they will look at the reputation of the casino and look for measures to prevent that problem, so if you experience problems with withdrawals being frozen due to problems KYC verification then you have the hope of applying for a withdrawal at a reputable casino, and if you use a new casino then the verification process will be complicated by various stages because the team will not approve whatever you send personal documents because their aim will be to take your funds for the reason of KYC problems .