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November 12, 2023, 09:09:12 AM
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The non-KYC casino are playing with the gamblers in two ways, first, they attract the gamblers to use their platform which is advertised to be a non-casino one and then if the players win something and try to withdraw, they scam them but not approving their KYCs.
Yeah!  It's clear.  I even find it difficult to understand how many millions of dollars will never be received by such supposedly “lucky” players who won at the casino, and the casino itself began to require them to perform a KYC check in order to transfer money in the form of cryptocurrency to the account of such a player. 
There can be two options:
firstly, the player cannot declassify his personal data for some personal reasons. 
And secondly, if the casino is close to fraudulent, it may begin not to accept the player’s personal data even if he sends photographs of documents and under various pretexts, and in the end the casino will claim that the player cannot confirm his identity. 
Accordingly, all the money won is lost by the player, but remaiins with the casino as another source of income.  And it is clear that an anonymous player will in no way be able to sue the casino simply by the definition of the trial itself, where the plaintiff, of course, cannot be anonymous. 
All this, of course, really violates the rights of consumers of anonymous players and the world of gambling needs to somehow resolve these issues in favor of the players. 
That's what I think.

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November 12, 2023, 12:17:30 PM
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And I believe that when a player uses cryptocurrencies, then KYC verification is not only unnecessary, but even harmful for several reasons, including the fear of theft of databases with personal information about players. 
KYC was invented by the American and global banking lobby practically for the purpose of total control over money transfers and the financial condition of citizens.  And of course, all kinds of regulators and government agencies supported and now constantly demand this same KYC from everyone.  Now, if you play in a crypto casino where there is no KYC, now your game is always overshadowed by the thought that if you win and want to receive this won cryptocurrency to your wallet, then you may be required to undergo verification using the KYC procedure.  Well, answer honestly, why the hell do you need this?  But you don’t need this extra process at all!  Is it true? 

In general, the conclusion is: the introduction of KYC in crypto-payments has ruined the entire crypto-casino business and made life more difficult for players.  And this procedure for crypto-payment should be cancelled.  This is of course difficult to do.  To do this, there must be a separate and bold jurisdiction that does not care what the bankers come up with and that would provide crypto casinos with the appropriate “No KYC” licenses.
If casinos weren't forced to do KYC verification as the part of anti-money laundering, then there would be enough competition to dive those who ask for it but since absolutely every casino is asked to do KYC verification, they simply can't resist it but it's also true that they benefit from this by asking KYC those who win a lot of money.
At the moment, I noticed that casinos registered in Costa Rica aren't enforced to ask for KYC to their customers. Right now, many casinos are registered in Curacao but these casinos are so reputable, I don't think any of them is going change things and out of nowhere started no-kyc campaign but probably we will see new casinos registered in Costa Rica that won't ask for KYC documents and their number will grow.

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November 12, 2023, 12:32:22 PM
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And I believe that when a player uses cryptocurrencies, then KYC verification is not only unnecessary, but even harmful for several reasons, including the fear of theft of databases with personal information about players. 
KYC was invented by the American and global banking lobby practically for the purpose of total control over money transfers and the financial condition of citizens.  And of course, all kinds of regulators and government agencies supported and now constantly demand this same KYC from everyone.  Now, if you play in a crypto casino where there is no KYC, now your game is always overshadowed by the thought that if you win and want to receive this won cryptocurrency to your wallet, then you may be required to undergo verification using the KYC procedure.  Well, answer honestly, why the hell do you need this?  But you don’t need this extra process at all!  Is it true? 

In general, the conclusion is: the introduction of KYC in crypto-payments has ruined the entire crypto-casino business and made life more difficult for players.  And this procedure for crypto-payment should be cancelled.  This is of course difficult to do.  To do this, there must be a separate and bold jurisdiction that does not care what the bankers come up with and that would provide crypto casinos with the appropriate “No KYC” licenses.
If casinos weren't forced to do KYC verification as the part of anti-money laundering, then there would be enough competition to dive those who ask for it but since absolutely every casino is asked to do KYC verification, they simply can't resist it but it's also true that they benefit from this by asking KYC those who win a lot of money.
At the moment, I noticed that casinos registered in Costa Rica aren't enforced to ask for KYC to their customers. Right now, many casinos are registered in Curacao but these casinos are so reputable, I don't think any of them is going change things and out of nowhere started no-kyc campaign but probably we will see new casinos registered in Costa Rica that won't ask for KYC documents and their number will grow.
I have a question.

Let's say for example, a casino registers in costa Rica and start operating globally without demanding KYC from their customers, and there are some countries where the government over there have made it mandatory that every gambling casino that is operating in their territory must ask or make KYC verification mandatory for all her customers, or for all customers from that territory, what then will the casino do?

Will they seize to allow customers from that territory register and use their platform? or will they allow customers from that region to register, but would impose Kyc verification for the people from that region alone?

This a very important question which i need serious answers on.

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November 12, 2023, 01:24:31 PM
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      -   The title that was made in this section seems silly; it has not been directly said that there is a kyc that is better to listen to or read than that which is just silly. Excuse me for the term.

But anyway, the important thing is to enjoy playing casino games on this platform. I hope you have some good gimmicks to give to your gambling communities here in the crypto space somehow to increase the number of players.

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November 12, 2023, 07:58:20 PM
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And I believe that when a player uses cryptocurrencies, then KYC verification is not only unnecessary, but even harmful for several reasons, including the fear of theft of databases with personal information about players. 
KYC was invented by the American and global banking lobby practically for the purpose of total control over money transfers and the financial condition of citizens.  And of course, all kinds of regulators and government agencies supported and now constantly demand this same KYC from everyone.  Now, if you play in a crypto casino where there is no KYC, now your game is always overshadowed by the thought that if you win and want to receive this won cryptocurrency to your wallet, then you may be required to undergo verification using the KYC procedure.  Well, answer honestly, why the hell do you need this?  But you don’t need this extra process at all!  Is it true? 

In general, the conclusion is: the introduction of KYC in crypto-payments has ruined the entire crypto-casino business and made life more difficult for players.  And this procedure for crypto-payment should be cancelled.  This is of course difficult to do.  To do this, there must be a separate and bold jurisdiction that does not care what the bankers come up with and that would provide crypto casinos with the appropriate “No KYC” licenses.
If casinos weren't forced to do KYC verification as the part of anti-money laundering, then there would be enough competition to dive those who ask for it but since absolutely every casino is asked to do KYC verification, they simply can't resist it but it's also true that they benefit from this by asking KYC those who win a lot of money.
At the moment, I noticed that casinos registered in Costa Rica aren't enforced to ask for KYC to their customers. Right now, many casinos are registered in Curacao but these casinos are so reputable, I don't think any of them is going change things and out of nowhere started no-kyc campaign but probably we will see new casinos registered in Costa Rica that won't ask for KYC documents and their number will grow.
If we are really just simply talking about the common set up nowadays on which KYC isnt really that strictly needed or for you to comply which we know that on the time that you do make some registration on the site
then you would be able to read up (if you do have the time) into their terms and conditions about those possible KYC which you might need to comply but of course you would really be needing to
hit up those threshold first before they would be asking out. If you are a gambler whose isnt really that spending that huge or making big deposits then i dont see the problem on this yet they wont really be
asking some KYC or verification on this case yet this is where most people been that experiencing. If you are a whale or huge spender then expect that there would really be verifications next in line
but if you are really just that a typical gambler who do only spend a few hundreds then i dont see that these things would really make us worry because they wont really be
asking out those KYC on which we are really that worried for.

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November 12, 2023, 08:54:06 PM
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      -   The title that was made in this section seems silly; it has not been directly said that there is a kyc that is better to listen to or read than that which is just silly. Excuse me for the term.

But anyway, the important thing is to enjoy playing casino games on this platform. I hope you have some good gimmicks to give to your gambling communities here in the crypto space somehow to increase the number of players.

Your post is a bit silly but silly or not, some casinos are using KYC to delay or even cancel withdrawals. Especially when it comes to some big amounts, simply said, the crypto gambling space is a wild west, and there are no guarantees.

I never had any problems with most crypto casinos, but I play under Gosu, I never had any insanely big wins, so I kind of slipped by all the rules and regulations. I still play (deposit/withdraw) in many popular crypto casinos without KYC, but to be honest, I'm not sure how long it will last.


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November 12, 2023, 09:39:36 PM
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Can you just imagine how many gamblers couldn't withdraw their winnings from casinos because they couldn't pass kyc and how much money those casino have earned due to this!
To be honest, I've played on different casinos which state on their terms that they may ask for identity verification but none of them asked me to do so. I suppose I was lucky but we need to keep in mind that they may freeze our accounts at any moment and ask us to submit our documents.

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November 12, 2023, 09:48:02 PM
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Can you just imagine how many gamblers couldn't withdraw their winnings from casinos because they couldn't pass kyc and how much money those casino have earned due to this!
To be honest, I've played on different casinos which state on their terms that they may ask for identity verification but none of them asked me to do so. I suppose I was lucky but we need to keep in mind that they may freeze our accounts at any moment and ask us to submit our documents.
You may be lucky or probably that the platform never really see the need for them to ask you for verification which is the reason they never do so. Most of the users who gets ask for KYC are those who did something against their policy or has suspicious activity.

You may also imagine how many people gamble online even though it is illegal for them to do so. With the amount of countries restricting online gambling or even gambling as a whole, people from those countries still find a way to do so which is why these gambling platforms have earned significant amount just by following through gambling regulations and policies.

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November 12, 2023, 10:13:34 PM
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I have a question.

Let's say for example, a casino registers in costa Rica and start operating globally without demanding KYC from their customers, and there are some countries where the government over there have made it mandatory that every gambling casino that is operating in their territory must ask or make KYC verification mandatory for all her customers, or for all customers from that territory, what then will the casino do?
First for a casino that is 100% kyc free to operate in a country that have gambling regulations it has to be by way of proxy,  since the casino website will be banned in that region,  and also any citizens that is caught for using such casino may face the law since it will be tend as violations of the countries laws.

So even if the casino have no regulation or licensed,  it chances of existence will still depends on the jurisdictions from which it operate from and how tight the country's rules are against unlicensed casinos.
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Will they seize to allow customers from that territory register and use their platform? or will they allow customers from that region to register, but would impose Kyc verification for the people from that region alone?

This a very important question which i need serious answers on.
The casino may not seize to allow citizens of such countries to register on the site,  since their are after their own revenue,  but what they can do is to allow the use of VPN on the casinos,  so the fight will be between the citizens and their own regional government.
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If casinos weren't forced to do KYC verification as the part of anti-money laundering, then there would be enough competition to dive those who ask for it but since absolutely every casino is asked to do KYC verification, they simply can't resist it but it's also true that they benefit from this by asking KYC those who win a lot of money.
At the moment, I noticed that casinos registered in Costa Rica aren't enforced to ask for KYC to their customers. Right now, many casinos are registered in Curacao but these casinos are so reputable, I don't think any of them is going change things and out of nowhere started no-kyc campaign but probably we will see new casinos registered in Costa Rica that won't ask for KYC documents and their number will grow.
KYC being mandatory or not isn't something about the licensing firm or country, but it differs for each country in which the casino is operating. Even if a casino is licensed in Costa Rica, and you, being a customer of that casino, live somewhere in the UK, and the government or authorities in the UK are very strict when it comes to casinos and gambling, and they don't allow anyone to gamble without verifying their identity first, so for the casino to keep operating within that jurisdiction, they will have to comply with the local rules and regulations.

So, I don't think that it works in the way you said, and a licensing firm doesn't impose the KYC and AML rules for casinos. That's why, whether a casino is licensed from Curacao or Costa Rica, if your country's regulations don't allow you to gamble without identity verification, you will be asked for it.

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November 13, 2023, 05:51:29 AM
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If casinos weren't forced to do KYC verification as the part of anti-money laundering, then there would be enough competition to dive those who ask for it but since absolutely every casino is asked to do KYC verification, they simply can't resist it but it's also true that they benefit from this by asking KYC those who win a lot of money.
At the moment, I noticed that casinos registered in Costa Rica aren't enforced to ask for KYC to their customers. Right now, many casinos are registered in Curacao but these casinos are so reputable, I don't think any of them is going change things and out of nowhere started no-kyc campaign but probably we will see new casinos registered in Costa Rica that won't ask for KYC documents and their number will grow.
KYC being mandatory or not isn't something about the licensing firm or country, but it differs for each country in which the casino is operating. Even if a casino is licensed in Costa Rica, and you, being a customer of that casino, live somewhere in the UK, and the government or authorities in the UK are very strict when it comes to casinos and gambling, and they don't allow anyone to gamble without verifying their identity first, so for the casino to keep operating within that jurisdiction, they will have to comply with the local rules and regulations.

So, I don't think that it works in the way you said, and a licensing firm doesn't impose the KYC and AML rules for casinos. That's why, whether a casino is licensed from Curacao or Costa Rica, if your country's regulations don't allow you to gamble without identity verification, you will be asked for it.
It has nothing to do with the nation or the licensing agency where the casino obtained its license. No, it's not that simple at all. Assume for the moment that the casino has a Costa Rican license and you are in the UK. The gambling laws in the UK are extremely, very tight. They take identification verification seriously. Therefore, if the casino wants to retain its UK clientele, it must abide by UK laws, even though it is located in Costa Rica thousands of miles away. The location from which the casino's patrons are making their wagers is more important than where the establishment displays its license plaque

The licensing company does not, however, set the guidelines for AML and KYC. That's accurate. If the UK says "Verify your customers," the casino has to start doing that, whether it's in Curacao or Costa Rica. That's how easy and how hard it is. In summary, the rules of the game are determined by your area rather than the location of the casino with a license. There are local regulations for this global game

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November 13, 2023, 06:06:38 AM
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Can you just imagine how many gamblers couldn't withdraw their winnings from casinos because they couldn't pass kyc and how much money those casino have earned due to this!
To be honest, I've played on different casinos which state on their terms that they may ask for identity verification but none of them asked me to do so. I suppose I was lucky but we need to keep in mind that they may freeze our accounts at any moment and ask us to submit our documents.
You may be lucky or probably that the platform never really see the need for them to ask you for verification which is the reason they never do so. Most of the users who gets ask for KYC are those who did something against their policy or has suspicious activity.

You may also imagine how many people gamble online even though it is illegal for them to do so. With the amount of countries restricting online gambling or even gambling as a whole, people from those countries still find a way to do so which is why these gambling platforms have earned significant amount just by following through gambling regulations and policies.

I guess that big, reputable casinos don't need to take this kind of shady actions because their business model works very well with the high amount of users they have. On the contrary, I'm sire that scam casinos exists, websites that are simply a facade with beautiful UIs but with not enough users, that make money this way, using a trap.

Of course, different regulations demand different actions, and sometimes it is legit to ask for KYC after and not before depositing funds (for instance, the guy who deposits little money but wins really big, and his national laws foresee mandatory identification below some threshold). But I don't think this is the case the OP wanted to talk about. So yes, shady casinos exist, and one should always read the T&Cs before depositing, being aware that even if conditions don't say a thing they are in control of his/her coins. So better go for the best known ones which have a minimal history of complaints from users.

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You should have read the terms and conditions of the casino or gambling site before creating an account. Many accounts do not require KYC, but some casinos or gambling sites do not require KYC when withdrawing dollars from the account, but when withdrawing more than a certain amount of dollars, KYC is required. However, doing KYC is definitely an extra security because doing KYC reduces the chances of serious malpractices like money laundering, fraud, and fraud.

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November 13, 2023, 01:31:17 PM
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Can you just imagine how many gamblers couldn't withdraw their winnings from casinos because they couldn't pass kyc and how much money those casino have earned due to this!
To be honest, I've played on different casinos which state on their terms that they may ask for identity verification but none of them asked me to do so. I suppose I was lucky but we need to keep in mind that they may freeze our accounts at any moment and ask us to submit our documents.
You may be lucky or probably that the platform never really see the need for them to ask you for verification which is the reason they never do so. Most of the users who gets ask for KYC are those who did something against their policy or has suspicious activity.

You may also imagine how many people gamble online even though it is illegal for them to do so. With the amount of countries restricting online gambling or even gambling as a whole, people from those countries still find a way to do so which is why these gambling platforms have earned significant amount just by following through gambling regulations and policies.

I guess that big, reputable casinos don't need to take this kind of shady actions because their business model works very well with the high amount of users they have. On the contrary, I'm sire that scam casinos exists, websites that are simply a facade with beautiful UIs but with not enough users, that make money this way, using a trap.

Of course, different regulations demand different actions, and sometimes it is legit to ask for KYC after and not before depositing funds (for instance, the guy who deposits little money but wins really big, and his national laws foresee mandatory identification below some threshold). But I don't think this is the case the OP wanted to talk about. So yes, shady casinos exist, and one should always read the T&Cs before depositing, being aware that even if conditions don't say a thing they are in control of his/her coins. So better go for the best known ones which have a minimal history of complaints from users.

They would not participate on any misleading activities since this could just add up some workload to them explaining about their past action done which, so we can expect that they are away from it and only focus on how they can give quality promotion that can make their existing or new gamblers to get entertained.

We also need to understand that casino ask those requirement so that he can continue their operation on those countries which ask this requirement.  That's why if we don't like to do this then its really better to leave since gambling our faith for playing those unsafe casino is not really good. That's why its wiser choice for us to pick up those reputable running casino so that we can assume that everything is alright with them and nothing bad will happen to us for submitting this KYC details to their casino.

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November 14, 2023, 04:43:04 AM
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If you say it's not fair then I will point this at you and say its your ignorance to accept the terms and conditions without knowing what you are accepting. And its pretty much the same at every casino and it is very rare that you will be asked for verification to deposit funds.

If you still feel their terms are unfair then you are free to choose the casino that has terms in your best interest. By the way, this is just something created out of frustration arising when you violated their TOS, and now funds are on hold by the casino while waiting for verification in the future don't repeat the same mistake and if you are from a restricted country then take some time to find which casinos are accepting players from your region and you can seek help on bitcointalk too for some valuable feedbacks.

But I think that in general it’s probably better to first read reviews about a specific casino that you are unfamiliar with on our forum.  It’s just that here in the “Gambling" section you will definitely find a topic for almost any large casino and in this topic there are reviews and recommendations frm experienced players. Sometimes you can even find separate descriptions of controversial issues that other players have had before. So this approach to the issue of changing casinos seems to me  quite optimal from the point of view of finding out the real situations that the player faces.
 This is very useful to do even before the moment when you start sending your money for a deposit to a new casino for you in which you have not played before.
Asking for verification is pretty much common practice on all the crypto casinos if I am not wrong so this won't be really surprising unless the person actually new to the crypto gambling platform and probably trying the first withdrawal of his life. In that case, exploring the bitcointalk won't give the person a solution because we used to know what are the common practices in casinos. So don't skip the terms that you are supposed to read and don't blame the casino if you violated some of the terms without actually knowing.

But it seems to me that even if the player is completely inexperienced, then even in this case, reading the texts of the posts in the topic about the casino he is interested in here on our forum will still give the person very useful information. 

Of course, if, as you read, terms and concepts arise that a person without experience in the gambling industry does not know, then their meaning can always be approximately found out by reading thhe basics of the gambling business, for example, on Wikipedia.  For example, the Martingale strategy, if you come across it in the text of some post, then just open the corresponding description on Wikipedia. 
If the person studying the posts is not completely stupid, then he will be able to understand in general what nuances may arise when playing specifically in the casino that interests him and whose topic he is reading here on our forum. 
So I consider this kind of reading of topics in BTT generally useful for everyone interested in a variety of casinos, of which there are many.  And this is suitable for both experienced players and those who are just starting their exciting journey into the world of gambling, into the world of modern casinos.
There is no doubt about it, I think the same, in fact before a Person plays in an Online casino, they should come to the forum so that they can do something here, and they can generate some information and not leave with so many Empty Things or with so much ignorance, because it is better to Learn before, so in this order of ideas, many of us have come Across sites like this, because when we make a deposit that after having played we have profits and When we go to withdraw they ask us for the KYUC, which is very annoying, so when we Assume that no Way, it has to be Done in Order to withdraw the money, then we find that the KYC is not confirmed at once, but rather it is very manual so that they can trust it and Declare it as successful , so that is something that bothers much more, sometimes they last days, up to a week I have seen, But Based on all this, we can do many things if we are in a situation that we like, that we Decide that we are going to like it. that it be our frequent casino, and that it may possibly become one of our favorites, after doing the pertinent research, since a KYC must be done Before making any deposit, to Avoid having bad times, because if Nothing has been deposited, this requires to the casino that must Confirm it and mark it as successful, because no money has yet been left there.

And that is a strategy, but of course, it only applies when a casino in particular wants to make it frequent, it is not the case with all casinos because they take them to do that, because it is not the idea either, just as this could be done and the casino is in the moral obligation to quickly accept their KYC so that they can make a good deposit, then things change but once the person does other things, first they start to see that the deposit and then the KYC at the time of withdrawing, many players If they don't expect it, they gamble out of Rage and even lose Everything , it is Beneficial for the Casino, but they Say Goodbye to a Potential Client.


Well, of course, it is clear that if a player lost all his money won in a casino simply because the casino did not consider the information that this player provided as part of the KYC procedure to be reliable, then such a player will never return to play in this casino again.  Indeed, such a client is forever lost for this casino. 
And yet, if this player communicates with other players, then information about his resentment towards this casino due to lost income from fair winnings will certainly spread, which will also begin to negatively affect the reputation of the casino. 

It has been said many times that sometimes an inexperienced player who has cryptocurrency thinks that if he wins, the casino will send him the winnings in cryptocurrency anonymously and will not ask for anything in return. 
However, KYC has become very widespread and, of course, often spoils the good mood that the player has won. 
By the way, this is a problem in the gambling business and it significantly spoils the user experience of the entire gambling industry. 
The players themselves who use cryptocurrencies do not need it at all, as I believe. 
But it only irritates and wastes the player’s time.  And it can also provoke a leak of personal data of players due to constant cases of database theft.

Exactly, as a player I will always agree that if a casino asks for KYC it is because it really needs registration because it is a reliable casino, in the case of the best casinos on the forum, I am able to do the KYC, without any problem , because I know that these casinos are somehow responsible and are capable of doing things well, I could think that every time someone enters a trustworthy casino, they can leave their KYC there, plus there are many players who have been there for years there and they can say that the casino is good , but what I say is that when you are in a new casino, I do not give KYC, so this prevents one as a player from making a deposit and then having to withdraw because of the KYC It is the main reason why one stops, and this is somewhat annoying, it is something that should not be , for a KYC they should establish an amount, something like after 200usd KYC will be requested, of Course it is just an Assumption, but from the Outset a Casino to earn its good trust and reputation is difficult.

There are players who do not even care if they are Reliable caqsnios, they do not comply with the KYC and go to the decentralized casinos, for the simple fact that this does not suit them, that is why we as good players must always do our own research , then see in the forum the investigations of others, the thread Ann, because there you can see many cases where there are problems, where the casino takes your Suggestions , no no , to see how they solve what they put in them, so in this type of things we must be very jealous, because in the End it is not only money that we are going to risk, it is putting our integrity, our family, in danger, because we do not know if this data is worth having someone who wants to do harm, or people who Whether they are even sick, we do not know what type of people our data may reach, nor should we be very Careful when giving our Data.

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They would not participate on any misleading activities since this could just add up some workload to them explaining about their past action done which, so we can expect that they are away from it and only focus on how they can give quality promotion that can make their existing or new gamblers to get entertained.

We also need to understand that casino ask those requirement so that he can continue their operation on those countries which ask this requirement.  That's why if we don't like to do this then its really better to leave since gambling our faith for playing those unsafe casino is not really good. That's why its wiser choice for us to pick up those reputable running casino so that we can assume that everything is alright with them and nothing bad will happen to us for submitting this KYC details to their casino.
Legit platforms would really be having those legit actions and whatever things that they would gonna do. They cant really just afford to risks their reputation on something which does really give out that kind of probability that it would really be tainted out in speaking about reputation and trust which we do know that it does takes a long time before they would really be able to achieve such state.
Casinos now doesnt directly ask out KYC on the time that you do register, they would really be only asking on the time that you would win such big amounts but making some small withdrawal then there would really be no issue if you are dealing with the right place but if not then headaches would really be able to experience.

This is why if you dont really like all the hassles then it would be always ideal that you should really be sticking on sites which are reputable and known
so that you would really be having no problems when it comes to this.

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Casinos must walk a line between KYC and client pleasure. A multidimensional issue, strict KYC requirements may discourage players. And while strict KYC protects the casino's integrity and the player's wins, it can backfire, causing annoyance and resentment when players believe their privacy has been violated or winnings are unfairly held.

However, data breaches are always a concern. As a casino accumulates more data, it becomes a bigger target for identity thieves. This is a real concern that can damage trust beyond a single player's experience. Casinos must protect player data and trust.

Word of mouth may create or ruin a casino's reputation in a reputation-driven industry. A single negative online experience might dissuade players and reduce user base. Casinos must know that KYC is required but must be implemented and communicated carefully. They need creative ways to speed this process and ensure compliance without affecting user experience. Following the rules is important, but so is embracing what makes cryptocurrency gambling so alluring.

If we are able to observe and do a thorough analysis, we can realize something very important, no casino has been irreverent regarding these regulations, because everything adheres to the fact that they must have all the licenses, that they must comply with everything stipulated. so we know the rules and that they are reliable, but that is not everything, because when a cyanso is based on all legality, if it wants to be a scam it will be escam, it still has the kyc requirements of licenses and everything related to it. It comes from the best casinos, but I have not seen a casino that is centralized and goes against the governments of which they are always the regulators, why? There is no casino like that, I think that a casino that can be competitive with others is or is the casino that reveals itself and does not ask for KYC, that is centralized in nature, that maintains that premise, I don't know if this will be possible in the future , but if it will be, good for that casino, it will surely have many customers.

This is due to the requirements of the governments of the countries to be able to control the people who participate, they must know who they are who make money through crypto in order to be able to implement their Credentials well to be able to Intimidate them with their stratospheric taxes . As I said before, for me the casino that is the best in the future is the one that will give greater clarity and anonymity to its users, that is the one that will be above the average, the one that will remain with more money and that it will always have a flow of constant users, it's not that I'm getting ahead of time or anything, but with the pace at which we go in life, the adoption of crypto is a fact, everyone will already use bitcoin in some way and alts, but those who play will no longer want to give even a single dollar to the governments, and that is why these types of Casinos will be the Priority , which I am sure will come out , or at least that is what I imagine.

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November 15, 2023, 06:29:29 AM
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Legit platforms would really be having those legit actions and whatever things that they would gonna do. They cant really just afford to risks their reputation on something which does really give out that kind of probability that it would really be tainted out in speaking about reputation and trust which we do know that it does takes a long time before they would really be able to achieve such state.
Casinos now doesnt directly ask out KYC on the time that you do register, they would really be only asking on the time that you would win such big amounts but making some small withdrawal then there would really be no issue if you are dealing with the right place but if not then headaches would really be able to experience.

This is why if you dont really like all the hassles then it would be always ideal that you should really be sticking on sites which are reputable and known
so that you would really be having no problems when it comes to this.
There are high number of people that does engage in gambling, choosing the appropriate casino will definitely boosts our wins regarding our ability to qualified for KYC and actually passing them. Providing important and correct information about ourselves will make everything easier, sometimes I wonder why would some gamblers will lay complaints knowing fully well how to tackle their problem, it's simple the Casino ask you provide important information inother to scan your identity and it makes sense to me, they mean no harm, they're just trying to verify you're not a robot.

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Well, of course, it is clear that if a player lost all his money won in a casino simply because the casino did not consider the information that this player provided as part of the KYC procedure to be reliable, then such a player will never return to play in this casino again.  Indeed, such a client is forever lost for this casino. 
And yet, if this player communicates with other players, then information about his resentment towards this casino due to lost income from fair winnings will certainly spread, which will also begin to negatively affect the reputation of the casino. 

It has been said many times that sometimes an inexperienced player who has cryptocurrency thinks that if he wins, the casino will send him the winnings in cryptocurrency anonymously and will not ask for anything in return. 
However, KYC has become very widespread and, of course, often spoils the good mood that the player has won. 
By the way, this is a problem in the gambling business and it significantly spoils the user experience of the entire gambling industry. 
The players themselves who use cryptocurrencies do not need it at all, as I believe. 
But it only irritates and wastes the player’s time.  And it can also provoke a leak of personal data of players due to constant cases of database theft.

Exactly, as a player I will always agree that if a casino asks for KYC it is because it really needs registration because it is a reliable casino, in the case of the best casinos on the forum, I am able to do the KYC, without any problem , because I know that these casinos are somehow responsible and are capable of doing things well, I could think that every time someone enters a trustworthy casino, they can leave their KYC there, plus there are many players who have been there for years there and they can say that the casino is good , but what I say is that when you are in a new casino, I do not give KYC, so this prevents one as a player from making a deposit and then having to withdraw because of the KYC It is the main reason why one stops, and this is somewhat annoying, it is something that should not be , for a KYC they should establish an amount, something like after 200usd KYC will be requested, of Course it is just an Assumption, but from the Outset a Casino to earn its good trust and reputation is difficult.

I would not divide everyone who gambles into such categories as good players, that is, those who boldly provide their personal data when the casino requires it and pass the KYC check without any problems.  And how not very good and not very correct players who categorically do not want, and often even simply cannot afford to provide the casino with data on the KYC procedure.  There can be many reasons for such fear and the player’s reluctance to provide personal data.  But such players also really want to gamble.  And they cannot in any way be considered some kind of incorrect or illegal players.  This, by the way, is also due to the fact that even by the way, the documents and instructions of the relevant US regulator on the issues of auditing financial transactions admit that anonymous payments are quite acceptable in some justified cases. 
And this means that any casino should theoretically not always require KYC and should also theoretically make exceptions and make payments anonymously at the request of the client.  I understand that no casino does this, but I think that this must be achieved and over time this issue will be resolved throughout the entire crypto casino industry

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November 15, 2023, 09:36:48 AM
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You should have read the terms and conditions of the casino or gambling site before creating an account. Many accounts do not require KYC, but some casinos or gambling sites do not require KYC when withdrawing dollars from the account, but when withdrawing more than a certain amount of dollars, KYC is required. However, doing KYC is definitely an extra security because doing KYC reduces the chances of serious malpractices like money laundering, fraud, and fraud.

Perhaps that is the OP's point, I mean when you deposit you are not being asked for KYC but suddenly when you win big and taking money from casino's suddenly they will ask for a KYC? But I think there are casinos now that before your register, they will tell you that there is a big possibility that they will be asking for personal documents and to KYC anyone, I think that will be the trend already.

So the burden is to us gamblers, to read the TOS before signing to any casinos.

And that could be the norm now, if we don't want to sign up and be KYC'd then do not do it, simply as that. There could be still casinos that don't require KYC before we can play or at least you need to missed some thresholds before they asked for it.

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