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Author Topic: Casinos not asking for KYC to register and play, but do require it to withdraw  (Read 9002 times)
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January 14, 2024, 01:42:29 AM
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Choosing a casino site that has a good reputation is the main solution, many are available here, and you can read reviews about casinos directly here, that's why you are always careful with new casinos, usually the T&Cs and Tos are still displayed but the text is minimized or in a corner. so that people are lazy to read, still be careful with cashinks like that, deposit without withdrawing  Grin

All those minimized texts called disclaimers are the devils mail. If you read most of them you'll be surprised at the kind of power you hand over to them on your finances. Most people want to get the game going anyways so they care less about reading them and it has now become a lifestyle not just in the gambling space

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January 14, 2024, 08:25:27 PM
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There are big casinos without asking for KYC like Stake as long as you play with an IP from a country that is not banned, I am so far without KYC to withdraw even make deposits and play, I am not a big gambler just a small gambler so so far still have no problems about KYC in their site, even if they ask for it I won't mind as long as their site has a good reputation on this forum or out there. To be honest, I'm not too happy with KYC-free sites, in fact it makes me not really feel safe playing.
Stake asks for KYC documents, they are not KYC-free casino. You probably gamble and make withdrawals without KYC because you are the participant of their signature campaign, so, I think that there is simply no reason to push verification on you because I assume you mostly get deposits from them and not deposit yourself from another wallet. By the way, I agree with you, if I have to gamble on a KYC casino, I will play on a reputable one to feel safe.

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January 14, 2024, 08:56:56 PM
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The thing is that I haven't seen many casinos before,  because most of them that I know only require you for KYC when the need arises, and as such it's important to note that any casino that discriminately asks you for KYC is doing so with an aim, either there want to withhold your money or even block you when you provide the right documents.
So is important for us to take note of that fact, and separate all of them from each other and also make sure that we avoid any casino that has a dirty policy such as deliberate locking of players' accounts and asking for u realistic jyc procedure.

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January 14, 2024, 09:06:47 PM
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rules that are unfair and burdensome for their own users, it's the same as we are giving them free money, it would be better with the rules of giving kyc first before playing so users can determine their choices, such rules look quite cunning like going into a crocodile's mouth, because most people really hate giving identity to casino sites
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January 14, 2024, 09:47:59 PM
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rules that are unfair and burdensome for their own users, it's the same as we are giving them free money, it would be better with the rules of giving kyc first before playing so users can determine their choices, such rules look quite cunning like going into a crocodile's mouth, because most people really hate giving identity to casino sites
One of the reasons on why crypto gambling did become that popular is that people could really be able to play without exposing their identities but we know that it wont really be lasting long
considering that gambling sites are really having that huge inflow and outflow when it comes to funds. Government would really be seeking up ways or things that they could get touched
with these businesses on which we do know that this is really that something that could be possible. Now that licensing is already that available or could be applied then this is where
these businesses should comply, there are ones though who do remain having no license but still ended up on being trusted but well it cant be sure 100% because anytime they could turn out to be a shit.

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January 14, 2024, 10:53:52 PM
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All those minimized texts called disclaimers are the devils mail. If you read most of them you'll be surprised at the kind of power you hand over to them on your finances. Most people want to get the game going anyways so they care less about reading them and it has now become a lifestyle not just in the gambling space
Minimized or not, it' s your responsibility as a customer to read the terms carefully before using any service if you want to be safe.
Casinos are for-profit companies and they need to protect their business and that's the purpose of those lengthy pages of terms and rules.
And to be fair to casinos (or other service providers) some terms aims to protect the customer's rights, as well.
If you don't like them just leave and find another casino which has terms that suits you better.

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January 15, 2024, 07:32:17 PM
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All those minimized texts called disclaimers are the devils mail. If you read most of them you'll be surprised at the kind of power you hand over to them on your finances. Most people want to get the game going anyways so they care less about reading them and it has now become a lifestyle not just in the gambling space
Minimized or not, it' s your responsibility as a customer to read the terms carefully before using any service if you want to be safe.
Casinos are for-profit companies and they need to protect their business and that's the purpose of those lengthy pages of terms and rules.
And to be fair to casinos (or other service providers) some terms aims to protect the customer's rights, as well.
If you don't like them just leave and find another casino which has terms that suits you better.


In this he is right, because in the case of casinos they always have to do things well so that they can offer the best service, when we enter we are so guilty of what happens to us, and before playing we know that we accept certain rules and commitments, That's why there is a lot of emphasis on the fact that you have to read to know what you are getting into and how you can do things right. I have thought that when they are doing things urgently in order to play, you don't read or understand. does not know any details at a legal level and that can be something that harms us later, for that reason I think that when we make a deposit, before doing so we have to verify that the casino offers us everything correctly and everything in the best way to to be able to play calmly.

In this case, what can be done is that you should be more patient if you have not approved the KYC, and not wait to win to then do the KYC, with that you will not have a bad time, it is a matter of doing things well.

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January 15, 2024, 08:57:24 PM
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All those minimized texts called disclaimers are the devils mail. If you read most of them you'll be surprised at the kind of power you hand over to them on your finances. Most people want to get the game going anyways so they care less about reading them and it has now become a lifestyle not just in the gambling space
Minimized or not, it' s your responsibility as a customer to read the terms carefully before using any service if you want to be safe.
Casinos are for-profit companies and they need to protect their business and that's the purpose of those lengthy pages of terms and rules.
And to be fair to casinos (or other service providers) some terms aims to protect the customer's rights, as well.
If you don't like them just leave and find another casino which has terms that suit you better.
Many times, gamblers have failed in the area of taking time to read the terms and conditions of a casino before they even create an account makeing a deposit on them, many times it has been proven that the majority of. the cases we have seen that involved KYC from casinos are all though to players not reading the entire terms and conditions of a casino before they register on it, this has been proven many times to be the reason why they run into troubles with the casinos at some point in time.


The first thing I do always is to make sure I read the terms and conditions of any casino before I think of proceeding to create an account with them, this has helped me alot to avoid falling into unnecessary pressure from the casino when they demand for such casinos.

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January 15, 2024, 09:10:42 PM
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rules that are unfair and burdensome for their own users, it's the same as we are giving them free money, it would be better with the rules of giving kyc first before playing so users can determine their choices, such rules look quite cunning like going into a crocodile's mouth, because most people really hate giving identity to casino sites

They can also try to be soft on us by allowing us to have an itch free experience with using them on the start before later demanding for what they want, this is just all about understanding, if a casino is a KYC gambling platform, then know this and have peace, so that you can be able to present their requirements on request at any time without fear or any challenges, this is also like a strategy for them to get people attracted to their gambling platform, when you find it easier to begin with, that may be the only reason to make you choose to continue with them.



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January 19, 2024, 11:07:30 PM
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rules that are unfair and burdensome for their own users, it's the same as we are giving them free money, it would be better with the rules of giving kyc first before playing so users can determine their choices, such rules look quite cunning like going into a crocodile's mouth, because most people really hate giving identity to casino sites

They can also try to be soft on us by allowing us to have an itch free experience with using them on the start before later demanding for what they want, this is just all about understanding, if a casino is a KYC gambling platform, then know this and have peace, so that you can be able to present their requirements on request at any time without fear or any challenges, this is also like a strategy for them to get people attracted to their gambling platform, when you find it easier to begin with, that may be the only reason to make you choose to continue with them.

What happened is that when we are in a casino the things we can do are very big, we have to have control with what we do and what we are going to say, we have to consider that when we register in a casino things can be very different, from the beginning we must read these rules, we must not assume that we are doing things correctly when in reality we are not doing it, that is why every time we enter a casino we must see if the casino is trustworthy, if the casino is worth it. worth it and if the casino has everything to win, that is something we should see, if not, it is not the case, we must consider things with more magnifying glass, I always recommend going to a casino that is reliable, with a high reputation, some similar casino or like the one at stake.co, where you know that we will not experience any type of poreblma when using it and when withdrawing, KYC is requested, yes, but it is somewhat fast.

In the case that we do anything to be able to win is another thing, but a casino that we are in and that we consider to have as a favorite we cannot leave things like that, I recommend doing the KYC first for any eventuality, lest we have a good stroke of luck, we win and we cannot withdraw for the simple fact that we do not have anything as guarantee, unless the KYC has been achieved, then it is annoying, because it is really difficult sometimes to win in a casino and if You win so that later you say that you cannot repeat for the simple fact that you have to do the KYC is something wow, that you did not expect, and if they take longer for the approval of the same even longer, and if they ask for more legible documents or something, Well, the annoyance is spoer, because the first thing the person thinks is that the casino wants to keep the money they won, when a casino is not interested in that, a casino is not interested in doing something like that to run for their money, then it is Better safe than sorry.

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January 20, 2024, 10:40:09 AM
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What happened is that when we are in a casino the things we can do are very big, we have to have control with what we do and what we are going to say, we have to consider that when we register in a casino things can be very different, from the beginning we must read these rules, we must not assume that we are doing things correctly when in reality we are not doing it, that is why every time we enter a casino we must see if the casino is trustworthy, if the casino is worth it. worth it and if the casino has everything to win, that is something we should see, if not, it is not the case, we must consider things with more magnifying glass, I always recommend going to a casino that is reliable, with a high reputation, some similar casino or like the one at stake.co, where you know that we will not experience any type of poreblma when using it and when withdrawing, KYC is requested, yes, but it is somewhat fast.

In the case that we do anything to be able to win is another thing, but a casino that we are in and that we consider to have as a favorite we cannot leave things like that, I recommend doing the KYC first for any eventuality, lest we have a good stroke of luck, we win and we cannot withdraw for the simple fact that we do not have anything as guarantee, unless the KYC has been achieved, then it is annoying, because it is really difficult sometimes to win in a casino and if You win so that later you say that you cannot repeat for the simple fact that you have to do the KYC is something wow, that you did not expect, and if they take longer for the approval of the same even longer, and if they ask for more legible documents or something, Well, the annoyance is spoer, because the first thing the person thinks is that the casino wants to keep the money they won, when a casino is not interested in that, a casino is not interested in doing something like that to run for their money, then it is Better safe than sorry.

It's true, all actions must be well considered, including registering at a gambling casino, of course we have to read the existing rules, because it can determine later the gambling that we do,  and to avoid gambling problems. i myself still can't see or distinguish which casinos are trusted and which casinos are fake, but on the other hand when I play at a new casino I am always safe without getting any problems. it's true what you say,  it's good for us to go to a casino that can be relied on like a casino that has a high reputation and good,  because with that maybe we know the casino is good or not.
and in my opinion the goal of the casino is to attract many people to be able to gamble in the casino  because that way they will get big profits,  also the goal of the host is to reap profits from many people,  namely those who gamble. but with them of course occasionally some of them might win and of course in my opinion they have to fulfill the withdrawal requirements including KYC.

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January 20, 2024, 11:39:53 AM
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The first thing I do always is to make sure I read the terms and conditions of any casino before I think of proceeding to create an account with them, this has helped me alot to avoid falling into unnecessary pressure from the casino when they demand for such casinos.

While I can say you did a great job being a gambler, this is a different scenario of most of the gamblers. Let's admit it, most of us does not read the TOS of a gambling site before we use their service, as we are thinking that their TOS could be the same with other sites we played before, or that it's not too important.

So, with that kind of approach, we should put in mind that we have no right to complain if the site's action does not favor us like we are losing money but their action has a basis which is their TOS.

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January 20, 2024, 07:49:24 PM
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What happened is that when we are in a casino the things we can do are very big, we have to have control with what we do and what we are going to say, we have to consider that when we register in a casino things can be very different, from the beginning we must read these rules, we must not assume that we are doing things correctly when in reality we are not doing it, that is why every time we enter a casino we must see if the casino is trustworthy, if the casino is worth it. worth it and if the casino has everything to win, that is something we should see, if not, it is not the case, we must consider things with more magnifying glass, I always recommend going to a casino that is reliable, with a high reputation, some similar casino or like the one at stake.co, where you know that we will not experience any type of poreblma when using it and when withdrawing, KYC is requested, yes, but it is somewhat fast.

In the case that we do anything to be able to win is another thing, but a casino that we are in and that we consider to have as a favorite we cannot leave things like that, I recommend doing the KYC first for any eventuality, lest we have a good stroke of luck, we win and we cannot withdraw for the simple fact that we do not have anything as guarantee, unless the KYC has been achieved, then it is annoying, because it is really difficult sometimes to win in a casino and if You win so that later you say that you cannot repeat for the simple fact that you have to do the KYC is something wow, that you did not expect, and if they take longer for the approval of the same even longer, and if they ask for more legible documents or something, Well, the annoyance is spoer, because the first thing the person thinks is that the casino wants to keep the money they won, when a casino is not interested in that, a casino is not interested in doing something like that to run for their money, then it is Better safe than sorry.

It's true, all actions must be well considered, including registering at a gambling casino, of course we have to read the existing rules, because it can determine later the gambling that we do,  and to avoid gambling problems. i myself still can't see or distinguish which casinos are trusted and which casinos are fake, but on the other hand when I play at a new casino I am always safe without getting any problems. it's true what you say,  it's good for us to go to a casino that can be relied on like a casino that has a high reputation and good,  because with that maybe we know the casino is good or not.
and in my opinion the goal of the casino is to attract many people to be able to gamble in the casino  because that way they will get big profits,  also the goal of the host is to reap profits from many people,  namely those who gamble. but with them of course occasionally some of them might win and of course in my opinion they have to fulfill the withdrawal requirements including KYC.

Well, as now things will always be focused on Knowing how it can be done to make things more direct, or that it is more favorable without KYC, it turns out to be difficult, the rules of the casino must be read before Registering to future discomforts can be avoided, in case Someone has a problem, but carefully read in the TOS how to do it, or how they are, according to it, it is possible to complain and that is something so simple to do, that is why it is the success of the lawyers, reading, not being lazy to read before resgisyo was one of the things that when I Recorded what I was doing it was quick to look for where I accepted the Tos, just because of the laziness of not reading, I plead guilty to that, on many occasions I I did, just for the thrill of registering quickly to go play, now things are Different , first read everything, carefully and thus be able to make a difference, for that reason it is also when you decide how to do in the case that you Want to comply with theKYC.


To comply with KYC it is necessary to do so, firstly so that a Good link Could be Established with the casino and secondly to establish the Security that is had with the casino , and the link that the client Wanted to establish, because once You have to take the Commitment for granted, that is, if you decide to be a casino customer, you currently have to Comply with KYC requirements, after this, what follows is to be able to generate more profits with the rules, which is about the norms, the Tos, and that is what we must be clear About , as I have Said , there are times that the documents that they offer, do not say all theNorms or rules, because many of them are at the beginning cunood nons regitrtramos, only They place the newest ones as a bonus, and the rest is Supposed to be very clear to us, but at the Beginning of a Complaint, the Support Cannot remind us that we Sccept those rules , and from there nothing can be done.

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January 20, 2024, 08:04:22 PM
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Choosing a casino site that has a good reputation is the main solution, many are available here, and you can read reviews about casinos directly here, that's why you are always careful with new casinos, usually the T&Cs and Tos are still displayed but the text is minimized or in a corner. so that people are lazy to read, still be careful with cashinks like that, deposit without withdrawing  Grin

All those minimized texts called disclaimers are the devils mail. If you read most of them you'll be surprised at the kind of power you hand over to them on your finances. Most people want to get the game going anyways so they care less about reading them and it has now become a lifestyle not just in the gambling space
The funny part of all those terms is the part that gives the absolute power to the casino to change the terms and conditions of their services to suit them at will.
This single part has given the casino the absolute power to do whatever they think is best for their own good, this is the part most scam casinos have taken advantage of to scam alot of people of their winnings at some points, these things have been very evident in recent times with some of the few cases that we have experienced or treated here in the gambling community when there is a case of violation of rules and accusation from some players have pointed out the fact that those casinos have multiple times tempered with the terms and conditions just to suit their scammy aim to defraud the players.

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January 20, 2024, 09:37:57 PM
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Choosing a casino site that has a good reputation is the main solution, many are available here, and you can read reviews about casinos directly here, that's why you are always careful with new casinos, usually the T&Cs and Tos are still displayed but the text is minimized or in a corner. so that people are lazy to read, still be careful with cashinks like that, deposit without withdrawing  Grin

All those minimized texts called disclaimers are the devils mail. If you read most of them you'll be surprised at the kind of power you hand over to them on your finances. Most people want to get the game going anyways so they care less about reading them and it has now become a lifestyle not just in the gambling space
The funny part of all those terms is the part that gives the absolute power to the casino to change the terms and conditions of their services to suit them at will.
This single part has given the casino the absolute power to do whatever they think is best for their own good, this is the part most scam casinos have taken advantage of to scam alot of people of their winnings at some points, these things have been very evident in recent times with some of the few cases that we have experienced or treated here in the gambling community when there is a case of violation of rules and accusation from some players have pointed out the fact that those casinos have multiple times tempered with the terms and conditions just to suit their scammy aim to defraud the players.
If you are skeptical or doesnt have trust on the casino that you are dealing then you would really be having those kind of advanced thing on trying out to make some screenshots of their terms and conditions so that if there would really be some changes, then you could really be able to present them if ever there would really be having those kind of possible issues in the future but since
everyone is really that too lazy on reading up those TOS then i do highly doubt that they would really be able to read up about those differences. In overall if you dont like to experience
those possible experiences then it would really be that best that you should really be sticking into those known gambling sites then you would be having no kind of worries
in related to potential hold up winnings and KYC.

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January 20, 2024, 10:17:48 PM
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rules that are unfair and burdensome for their own users, it's the same as we are giving them free money, it would be better with the rules of giving kyc first before playing so users can determine their choices, such rules look quite cunning like going into a crocodile's mouth, because most people really hate giving identity to casino sites

They can also try to be soft on us by allowing us to have an itch free experience with using them on the start before later demanding for what they want, this is just all about understanding, if a casino is a KYC gambling platform, then know this and have peace, so that you can be able to present their requirements on request at any time without fear or any challenges, this is also like a strategy for them to get people attracted to their gambling platform, when you find it easier to begin with, that may be the only reason to make you choose to continue with them.

As most licensed casinos are requiring KYC, the player himself should be ready at all times to submit the docs if deem necessary.
Because you agree with the terms of the site, it means, whenever they ask a specific requirement from you, you need to obliged.
So better know what you are getting into, before you complain that the site is asking a doc from you, because it is already stated in their terms in the first place.
This is why most gamblers are being caught in a situation because they failed to browse the terms of the site.
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January 20, 2024, 11:56:40 PM
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Choosing a casino site that has a good reputation is the main solution, many are available here, and you can read reviews about casinos directly here, that's why you are always careful with new casinos, usually the T&Cs and Tos are still displayed but the text is minimized or in a corner. so that people are lazy to read, still be careful with cashinks like that, deposit without withdrawing  Grin
Those who know the reputation of a gambling site may decide which to play and which is not. But those who are not aware of these they usually can't play and can't be aware of it and as a result may fall into the trap of KYC.
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January 21, 2024, 04:43:15 AM
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The thing is that I haven't seen many casinos before,  because most of them that I know only require you for KYC when the need arises, and as such it's important to note that any casino that discriminately asks you for KYC is doing so with an aim, either there want to withhold your money or even block you when you provide the right documents.
So is important for us to take note of that fact, and separate all of them from each other and also make sure that we avoid any casino that has a dirty policy such as deliberate locking of players' accounts and asking for u realistic jyc procedure.
You are right and indeed almost all casinos, even those that are big and have good reputation, will have requirements written in the tos that KYC will be requested if necessary, but for gamblers who are in doubt and are afraid of something bad, they can provide KYC right away initial registration.
In fact, for large and reputable casinos, we don't need to worry about discrimination in requesting KYC requirements and we don't need to worry about money being detained or account blocked when we have provided the correct documents.
They will prioritize maintaining good reputation and they will prioritize good service for customers so that there is no possibility of actions that are detrimental to customers and disappoint customers.

It easier, we use casino that is trusted and has good reputation.
They of course already have collaborations with several sports companies and of course this proves that they can be trusted because when they have the opportunity to commit fraud or have bad reputation then it is impossible to collaborate with sports companies.
They also definitely have large community and this will be proof that many gamblers rely on this casino.

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January 21, 2024, 09:48:52 AM
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rules that are unfair and burdensome for their own users, it's the same as we are giving them free money, it would be better with the rules of giving kyc first before playing so users can determine their choices, such rules look quite cunning like going into a crocodile's mouth, because most people really hate giving identity to casino sites
Any casinos that is used to creating rules that is very hard for users to abide by would always end up losing customers.
This is something of common sense since their are several casinos online one can use and bet with friendly atmosphere and terms.
Everyone one wants to keep using casinos that would not keep giving us headache because we don't do some certain things right.
This is one of the reasons we keep seeing gamblers moving from one casino to the other just to get a better and friendly atmosphere.









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January 21, 2024, 10:44:15 AM
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Choosing a casino site that has a good reputation is the main solution, many are available here, and you can read reviews about casinos directly here, that's why you are always careful with new casinos, usually the T&Cs and Tos are still displayed but the text is minimized or in a corner. so that people are lazy to read, still be careful with cashinks like that, deposit without withdrawing  Grin

All those minimized texts called disclaimers are the devils mail. If you read most of them you'll be surprised at the kind of power you hand over to them on your finances. Most people want to get the game going anyways so they care less about reading them and it has now become a lifestyle not just in the gambling space
It is good to read the terms and conditions of the company you are signing to, nevertheless, often time, if you want to gamble all the same, whether most of the terms and conditions are against you or not or you have given the casino so much power, you will still accept it, or else, you will not be able to gamble your favourite games. This is your choice still, but since most people want to gamble all the same, they then continue to accept the terms and conditions they read or did not read. But some are too careless about this, they would agree to the terms and conditions even without reading some key parts, despite in many, the evil is embedded in those parts which causes issues for them eventually.

I don't joke with the part about withdrawals, especially the reasons that can cause account locking and refusal to honour my withdrawal, so I pay attention to them and also talk with some support staff. However, what I have noticed is that these terms and conditions of casinos are almost the same thing except for a few alterations, which is more discouraging for me as we give them so much power indeed. No wonder that even the court often sides in favour of the customer at times despite being guilty a little bit in such a case that could be bent by the judge since it is a plain evil with most terms and conditions in key areas. I wonder what the government is doing about it as it amounts to cheating due to the desperation of people. It is not all terms and conditions that should be allowed by the law.

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