Casinos not asking for KYC to register and play, but do require it to withdraw

[getsats.club]

This is why it would really be that important that you should really be reading up those terms and conditions and as much as possible you would really be able to copy it or
screenshot on which if there are some possible alterations then you could somewhat have a fight on this case.

The right solution, we must have evidence for screenshots of all the terms and conditions on the casino site, another alternative solution we can index all responses on the web archive then the evidence can be considered concrete compared to screenshots, we must save all the stacks of text to prove that we have read the terms and conditions so that the casino cannot defend itself for a lie to the users, unless the casino announces an update to make new rules that require KYC then they can avoid all the demands of being accused of being a scam casino.

Yeah! Evidence seem to be the key as we know there only to tackle any matter arising, which is Evidence ( all T&C should be screen shot and kept). if a casino includes KYC is optional and they require it for your funds withdrawal then they are obviously a scam and the only way to tackle them is the way you listed above as they could be cunning  sometimes towards updating  their previous texts and if there's  no evidence , all hope might seem to be lost

In the situation when they are referring to kyc as optional, then what they mostly mean is that they can allow you to register and gamble even without completing for the kyc request, but that doesn't mean they may not later make demands on that, but the most annoying is that we often get annoyed seeing this because we are at the point of making withdrawals before receiving the notification that we need to complete our kyc, so what i would have suggest to some of these gambling site is to ensure that they don't only request for kyc at the point of making withdrawal, they can demand for such even when the user is not requesting for withdrawals after his registration.

The thing actually is, for some casinos, they usually allow the user register, make a deposit and play on the casino, possibly making a few winnings and withdrawals as well, this probably is to allow the player test the casino out and get acquainted with the operations of the casino, but like you said, a time always comes when the casino will ask the user to verify his or her account, mostly when the user is requesting a withdrawal, and why casinos do this is very understandable because this is the only time that player may comply with the request, the player has already requested a withdrawal which is pending, and for the withdrawal to be processed, he or she needs to submit his or her documents for account verification, the player is likely to submit the document immediately in order to have their withdrawal processed.

But if and when the casino randomly asked the player to submit kyc documents for account verification when the player doesn't have any pending withdrawals, the user may ignore it and possibly look for ways to get his money out of that casino and move to another, and worst is if and when the player actually does not have any money on his account, he or she may likely move to another casino where they may possibly not ask him or her to verify his or her account immediately.

This I believe is the reason why most casino will wait until a player is at the point where they need their withdrawal request to be processed, before the casino askes them for documents for account verification, for the casino knows what this is the best time any player can comply to their kyc demands, requesting for this any other time, the casino might just push the player away to another casino.

This is the reason why we decided to open a lightning network NO-KYC casino.
Because we saw that most of the online casinos that accepts bitcoin (and "crypto") are most likely scam, asking users to make KYC blocking their funds
or banning funds of users because of some "internal policy".
Plus, they are asking emails to register, and they are blocking Tor users instead of creating
a Tor onion service (and if Tor ain't blocked, the website will problably not load correctly).

There are some good lightning network casino that are KYC free, but they are not well developed and they don't allow you to bet a lot of money (most likely
because they are small projects and don't aims big).

We are trying to make a good lightning network casino with a lot of games and without stupid rules.

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[panjul07]

Well, I leave you to ponder on that, but all the same, kyc is not something we should really worry about, as long as you are only submitting your documents to reputable and we'll trusted platforms, not platforms that will turn around and sell their users private information to other companies money.

One thing to remember is that reputable platforms does not mean that there will be no "bad employee" who can do something for their own benefits such as doing ilegal document sales once the employee has the access to the user's submitted document.
Worrying about our personal document in this online world is normal especially for those who care about their privacy.
For those who are worrying about KYC, simply do not deal with it and for those who are not worrying then we should not blame those who are worrying about it.
Its all about preferences and each preference has its own consequences and we all should be ready for the consequences.

[LUCKMCFLY]

4.-Which one is more easier to manage than the other?

Based on my personal opinion, I would say that it is much easier to manage a physical casino than an online casino, in an online casino you have to manage many bosses for many of its departments.

I would choose, without a doubt, the physical casino, even though the physical casino would have to invest in security and in certain things that the online casino does not have, in this case incentives, such as gifts, meals, something like that, but that partly come out of the same losses of the players, even so I think that the expense is less than that of an online casino.

Actually, we don't own any online or physical casino, therefore we can only speculate as to which is easy to manage online or offline casino.
The ones who are actually involved in the two businesses can tell us the exact pros and cons of both setups.

However, I would not necessarily agree with the last question's answer that it is difficult to manage an Online Casino as compared to an offline casino. Don't you think that managing a physical casino is more difficult as you have to hire people, manage the building (rented or owned), manage the people coming to the casino etc etc. With online casinos, all of the things will be taken care of by the casino developer when it comes to the design and security etc and it is just a one-time payment as opposed to the physical casino where you have to pay the rent and hire staff to m whom you will need to pay monthly.

Yes, I understand the point, but it is easier to manage than a large conglomerate where you have to deal with security, it is easier to deal with hiring staff and renting a site than to Complain to IT security because you let a certain amount be stolen of money? How does the Security entity respond? It is difficult, you cannot determine things like that, currently there Are many security updates, and all that has a big cost, the administration is not complicated, the hard part is the expense, and in a company what is sought is to reduce expenses and That everything is cheaper, that is the objective, in a physical casino the subcontracting of rental staff is only taken as a liability, but the mere fact of protecting Capital is everything, in a casino or online if all the security measures are in place. They are affected, everything fails and money disappears, and that is really delicate.

There are online casinos that do not last much, they become decapitated and cannot respond to withdrawal requests, some say that they allow manual withdrawals, in a physical casino the movement of money is instantaneous, so for me it seems to be easier.

And that's right, it's difficult to Speculate , but roughly I see things like this, I've done some work for people in companies, but they don't have problems with hacks where their money is compromised, maybe their database or something like that. , but it is not worth Worrying about, however in an online casino that risk is always there.

[bakasabo]

Why we must be afraid of KYC? 5-10 years ago we didn`t hear about it but we gave our data to huge quantity of different kind organizations. Today we make the same but care about KYC. Just keep your money safe and don`t worry about KYC. I see lots of private data in darknet - it costs less than $1. This is real price of our data.

I would like to disagree. We should still worry about KYC, or at least pay attention to what information we share. Making verification via receiving sms is one thing, and sending passport or ID picture is completely different. Even though people can do little with my name, surname, date and place of birth and a picture, I would still feel uncomfortable knowing that documents are somewhere. One thing is when you allow some institution to make and keep copy of your personal information, other thing is basically printing and sticking copy of your passport on "every wall of the city".

You, as you say, worry little about KYC, then why no uploading front page of your passport here?

Well, this forum respects user's privacy, which is one of the things bitcoin represents, and as such, this forum does not require it's users to share their private and personal informations here except the user wishes to do so on his or her won accord.

But have you bothered to think of this, what if this forum actually required users to submit their private and personal informations for kyc verifications, what if this was a requirement needed by the services we promote and make money from on this forum, what if this was a requirement they need for them to hire us, don't you think alot of users on this forum would have gladly submitted their IDs?, and other personal information, if not for anything, for the money they make on or from this forum through the services they promote..

Well, I leave you to ponder on that, but all the same, kyc is not something we should really worry about, as long as you are only submitting your documents to reputable and we'll trusted platforms, not platforms that will turn around and sell their users private information to other companies money.

My comment was relied to a user who has said that we should not worry about KYC. If he is so brave to share private data, then why not demonstrate bravery? Personally, I would not share KYC, not on the forum, not to casino. Maybe reputed exchange would be and exception. With the fact that online casino licenses dont cost much, and it isnt costly to open a new casino (compared to exchange), I would avoid giving casinos to much info about myself.

[mak013]

Why we must be afraid of KYC? 5-10 years ago we didn`t hear about it but we gave our data to huge quantity of different kind organizations. Today we make the same but care about KYC. Just keep your money safe and don`t worry about KYC. I see lots of private data in darknet - it costs less than $1. This is real price of our data.

I would like to disagree. We should still worry about KYC, or at least pay attention to what information we share. Making verification via receiving sms is one thing, and sending passport or ID picture is completely different. Even though people can do little with my name, surname, date and place of birth and a picture, I would still feel uncomfortable knowing that documents are somewhere. One thing is when you allow some institution to make and keep copy of your personal information, other thing is basically printing and sticking copy of your passport on "every wall of the city".

You, as you say, worry little about KYC, then why no uploading front page of your passport here?

Your documents are somewhere. The casino is the same like any company where you send copy of your passport. You have no any guarantees that some institution willn`t share your data, include passport with someone else, and he will share it for everybody.

I don`t worry that someone can see me naked, but it doesn`t mean that i have to go for a walk naked. Don`t worry about KYC and give my data for everybody - differs.
PS. I`ve seen at least 2 men, who posted their passport and credit card in chat. I don`t know is it really their data, but i think it is so. So, there are adepts of your idea.

[Hamphser]

Why we must be afraid of KYC? 5-10 years ago we didn`t hear about it but we gave our data to huge quantity of different kind organizations. Today we make the same but care about KYC. Just keep your money safe and don`t worry about KYC. I see lots of private data in darknet - it costs less than $1. This is real price of our data.

I would like to disagree. We should still worry about KYC, or at least pay attention to what information we share. Making verification via receiving sms is one thing, and sending passport or ID picture is completely different. Even though people can do little with my name, surname, date and place of birth and a picture, I would still feel uncomfortable knowing that documents are somewhere. One thing is when you allow some institution to make and keep copy of your personal information, other thing is basically printing and sticking copy of your passport on "every wall of the city".

You, as you say, worry little about KYC, then why no uploading front page of your passport here?

Your documents are somewhere. The casino is the same like any company where you send copy of your passport. You have no any guarantees that some institution willn`t share your data, include passport with someone else, and he will share it for everybody.

I don`t worry that someone can see me naked, but it doesn`t mean that i have to go for a walk naked. Don`t worry about KYC and give my data for everybody - differs.
PS. I`ve seen at least 2 men, who posted their passport and credit card in chat. I don`t know is it really their data, but i think it is so. So, there are adepts of your idea.

Once you have submit out those documents or KYC then of course you should really be that anticipating that those information had been already exposed. About privacy laws and other terms then i dont really much believing into those stuffs on which we do know that these information could expose it out. KYC is never been that a good thing for us people who do really value much about privacy
and since these businesses are really that involving huge money then it would be nor surprise that government would really be getting a hold of these businesses and would really be
regulating it.

When it comes on KYC when withdrawing then this is usually be applied once you do able to reach up those threshold on which its normal but if they do ask for the KYC
even if only a few dollars then this is a solid indication that you are dealing with a scammy site.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Well, the truth is that if some type of casino changes its rules, that for me represents a violation of the rights that you have as a player, because you cannot do things like that by changing the rules and without being able to accept the rules, because in a clause they can put it in a very crazy way to never win, just so that the casino benefits, and being in a casino playing something like that is equivalent to cheating, rape, theft, worthy of a casino with bad influences, in fact, in this case things They can happen differently if the casino participates and wants to change the Tos the players have to accept the new Tos that the casino changes, that is the correct and legal way.

I hope you remember that some of these gambling platforms also used to state it on their policies that their rules are subjected to changes and they will ask you to acknowledge that you have read and understand their conditions of service before accepting the approval for your registration while at the point of signing up, and all we do is to check the button and click yes even though we don't read anything.

Well nit some but almost all the casinos have that column in the terms and conditions that states that all the rules are subject to changes from the casino team, so that law give them the right to change any rule as they want without having the need to consult anyone, this power have been misused many times by those scam casinos,  in the sense  that sometimes they just chose to violate the gamblers right and when the case is against them, they will go to change that part of they rules that back the gamblers to favor them, and at the end the walk away with the gambler funds and there is nothing the gamblers can do about that, many of the scam casinos have done this before and go scout free.

That is why, the moment you register on a kyc casino, you should at least go through the verification process and get your account verified before you make any deposits or play on the sites, this way when you win big, the account wont run into any trouble with the casino and there will not be room for them to manipulate the process since the account is already kyc verified.

To be honest, that part about your casino saying that these rules will be subject to change, that part is for me manipulation and something that is really unpleasant, because that play on words makes everything read above useless, so I am one of the What do you think. that when a casino changes one of its Tos then they have to notify it and make it public so that all the Tos have to be read again and accept it, for me that is the duty, I consider that if the casino does not do so it is a measure of use by the casino, in fact a casino that establishes rules and says that they are subject to change, I am one of those who will leave that casino, as there are many casinos, they have a lot of competition, that is why the old casinos They keep recruiting the new ones.

It is also very necessary that a casino currently has to put in their presentation that before doing anything, they must do registration and KYC verification, just like trading brokers do, otherwise they will say or warn that they will not be able to make money withdrawals, I believe that if the recipients are this sincere, they will never have problems.

[Lanatsa]

Well, the truth is that if some type of casino changes its rules, that for me represents a violation of the rights that you have as a player, because you cannot do things like that by changing the rules and without being able to accept the rules, because in a clause they can put it in a very crazy way to never win, just so that the casino benefits, and being in a casino playing something like that is equivalent to cheating, rape, theft, worthy of a casino with bad influences, in fact, in this case things They can happen differently if the casino participates and wants to change the Tos the players have to accept the new Tos that the casino changes, that is the correct and legal way.

I hope you remember that some of these gambling platforms also used to state it on their policies that their rules are subjected to changes and they will ask you to acknowledge that you have read and understand their conditions of service before accepting the approval for your registration while at the point of signing up, and all we do is to check the button and click yes even though we don't read anything.

Well nit some but almost all the casinos have that column in the terms and conditions that states that all the rules are subject to changes from the casino team, so that law give them the right to change any rule as they want without having the need to consult anyone, this power have been misused many times by those scam casinos,  in the sense  that sometimes they just chose to violate the gamblers right and when the case is against them, they will go to change that part of they rules that back the gamblers to favor them, and at the end the walk away with the gambler funds and there is nothing the gamblers can do about that, many of the scam casinos have done this before and go scout free.

That is why, the moment you register on a kyc casino, you should at least go through the verification process and get your account verified before you make any deposits or play on the sites, this way when you win big, the account wont run into any trouble with the casino and there will not be room for them to manipulate the process since the account is already kyc verified.

To be honest, that part about your casino saying that these rules will be subject to change, that part is for me manipulation and something that is really unpleasant, because that play on words makes everything read above useless, so I am one of the What do you think. that when a casino changes one of its Tos then they have to notify it and make it public so that all the Tos have to be read again and accept it, for me that is the duty, I consider that if the casino does not do so it is a measure of use by the casino, in fact a casino that establishes rules and says that they are subject to change, I am one of those who will leave that casino, as there are many casinos, they have a lot of competition, that is why the old casinos They keep recruiting the new ones.

It is also very necessary that a casino currently has to put in their presentation that before doing anything, they must do registration and KYC verification, just like trading brokers do, otherwise they will say or warn that they will not be able to make money withdrawals, I believe that if the recipients are this sincere, they will never have problems.

Any sudden changes is always been that shady as f*ck and this is something that should be contested out but of course if you cant be able to provide some proofs in regarding about those changes then it would really be pointless for you to have those kind of fights that they've been manipulating things just for scamming out those users. Its true that it wont really be that too easy on trying to detect things as early as we could be
seeing some red flags on initial engagement would really be giving out some hints that you should really be starting on avoiding it out or pulling up your funds.

Just like on other suggestions that you would really be able to avoid all the hassles if you do really just make yourself that keeping on sticking into those reputable platforms
on which the community had already made out their own experiences on which sticking into those good ones will really be better than into test
some new sites that you dont even know that they are legit or really that running some serious business or just tending to scam out people.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Football betting isnt simply about money. It shows fans' unwavering faith in their teams. Truly fascinating. Consider: people dont throw money around because they can. They do it to connect, feel the rush, and declare "I'm with them, win or lose."

This is very true because there are many fans in soccer and when it is their local team and when they are strongest in their sports ideology, then they are very fans, they are even capable of fighting in the same game if their teams lose, so that is the kind of People who bet so they know that their teams will win because they see it as Something of loyalty and that they do not fail in their Principles, in this winery of ideas I think that everyone can make a Difference, if there are people who always seek to make bets and earn money, because I believe that they should not mix their feelings, although to be honest, that costs me a lot.

I am a person who is fascinated by Football , it is actually my first Sport , so when it comes to placing bets I am emphatic with my team, I do have to bet knowing that the team can or has a greater chance of losing I do, I always keep hope, but of course I'm not stupid enough to bet a lot of money, I always do it with little.

What most people do when Betting on their Favorite sport is betting with their heart and Sometimes it doesn't work because they lose money.

As football fan and also a gambler, I know there's a difference between been passionate in supporting your team and also a totally different thing when you talk about are trying to place bets with huge money.
For instance, whenever my local team is playing against a team that's believed by many to better, I simply stake a little amount of money for my local team to win even when i know that it's almost impossible for my local team to win. However, I have also be lucky in few occasions that my local team ended up winning the games.
But whenever I'm about to stake huge amount of money and is expecting myself to win at the end of the day, I totally do not attach my emotions to it again as I only stake on teams I believe will win at the end of of the day and that doesn't make me less of a fan of you ask me.

If you are someone whose really that too emotional type of person on which showing off some support into the team you do like then you wont really be caring on how much you would really be putting up bets on them
even if you do saw that they arent the favorites or simply the underdog on such game but still you have decided on betting on them. Its not really that bad on making out such kind of bet but of course majority of
people would really be minding about on how to make those wins or simply with profits on which of course it would really be normal that you would really be needing up some adjustments if you are really that serious on making some bucks.

Although not all people would really be just only coming after for the money but rather they would really be here for the support and this is why you would really be seeing these kind of types and it would be better that you shouldnt really be making some argumentations with these fellas if you dont really like for some long winding kind of argument because they would really be fighting
for their own views and decisions of course.

Sometimes, because it has Happened to me, I have opted for the local team and I know that they have a tough rival, I am talking about a team like Flamengo from Brazil , Palmeiras , Santos, and it just so happens that in one of those the team went to train at the University where I was studying, that is something that I really liked, at that time my team which was Táchira did a great job and I won, but I didn't win much because I was scared and didn't I bet with everything, so I was happy but half happy, I would have been Happier if I had bet as I was, so sometimes these types of things happen either by luck or for Something and we still win and we are bad, so sometimes one must know choose what our life can be like as a player, sometimes being conservative we can secure some Money , but we are not Satisfied either , while it remains as it is, and we lose, it will remain in our mind that we did Things well and that that is sufficient.

[mak013]

Your documents are somewhere. The casino is the same like any company where you send copy of your passport. You have no any guarantees that some institution willn`t share your data, include passport with someone else, and he will share it for everybody.

I don`t worry that someone can see me naked, but it doesn`t mean that i have to go for a walk naked. Don`t worry about KYC and give my data for everybody - differs.
PS. I`ve seen at least 2 men, who posted their passport and credit card in chat. I don`t know is it really their data, but i think it is so. So, there are adepts of your idea.

Once you have submit out those documents or KYC then of course you should really be that anticipating that those information had been already exposed. About privacy laws and other terms then i dont really much believing into those stuffs on which we do know that these information could expose it out. KYC is never been that a good thing for us people who do really value much about privacy
and since these businesses are really that involving huge money then it would be nor surprise that government would really be getting a hold of these businesses and would really be
regulating it.

When it comes on KYC when withdrawing then this is usually be applied once you do able to reach up those threshold on which its normal but if they do ask for the KYC
even if only a few dollars then this is a solid indication that you are dealing with a scammy site.

It is so. That`s why i cares only about phone and debt/credit cards. I has a mate that even don`t know about internet, but i find his data. He never share it someone except federal services and big banks.
In the casino they can KYC you during first several withdrawals, even if they are small enough. Their security bots can decide that you are a cheater. That`s why i make few fast withdrawal in new casino to KYC when i want but not when i need my prize fast.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Your documents are somewhere. The casino is the same like any company where you send copy of your passport. You have no any guarantees that some institution willn`t share your data, include passport with someone else, and he will share it for everybody.

I don`t worry that someone can see me naked, but it doesn`t mean that i have to go for a walk naked. Don`t worry about KYC and give my data for everybody - differs.
PS. I`ve seen at least 2 men, who posted their passport and credit card in chat. I don`t know is it really their data, but i think it is so. So, there are adepts of your idea.

Once you have submit out those documents or KYC then of course you should really be that anticipating that those information had been already exposed. About privacy laws and other terms then i dont really much believing into those stuffs on which we do know that these information could expose it out. KYC is never been that a good thing for us people who do really value much about privacy
and since these businesses are really that involving huge money then it would be nor surprise that government would really be getting a hold of these businesses and would really be
regulating it.

When it comes on KYC when withdrawing then this is usually be applied once you do able to reach up those threshold on which its normal but if they do ask for the KYC
even if only a few dollars then this is a solid indication that you are dealing with a scammy site.

It is so. That`s why i cares only about phone and debt/credit cards. I has a mate that even don`t know about internet, but i find his data. He never share it someone except federal services and big banks.
In the casino they can KYC you during first several withdrawals, even if they are small enough. Their security bots can decide that you are a cheater. That`s why i make few fast withdrawal in new casino to KYC when i want but not when i need my prize fast.

That is very true, in fact people who have nothing to do with putting things on the internet nor do they have social networks always get some of their information, this is something that can generate a lot of controversy, even so things are Delicate and given this it makes days I read a post on Instagram that showed a site where all the data appeared on the web and Where it Was Registered , but the truth was it Was very late and I Didn't check it, now the truth is I can't find that Post , but it was on a Page that It's Called qpasag ,  it was something like that.

What you do in casinos to avoid Tracking , in some way it is something that is usually safe, of course it is not something special or a practice that I see as safe, but if it works for you it is very good, the truth is in other networks I do not I have my Information, Usually they are Avatars or things that do not make sense with my data, but the documentation that one has in the air is Somehow filtered either from the database , Cloud or among Other Things, it is Difficult to Maintain Anonymous.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Why we must be afraid of KYC? 5-10 years ago we didn`t hear about it but we gave our data to huge quantity of different kind organizations. Today we make the same but care about KYC. Just keep your money safe and don`t worry about KYC. I see lots of private data in darknet - it costs less than $1. This is real price of our data.

I would like to disagree. We should still worry about KYC, or at least pay attention to what information we share. Making verification via receiving sms is one thing, and sending passport or ID picture is completely different. Even though people can do little with my name, surname, date and place of birth and a picture, I would still feel uncomfortable knowing that documents are somewhere. One thing is when you allow some institution to make and keep copy of your personal information, other thing is basically printing and sticking copy of your passport on "every wall of the city".

You, as you say, worry little about KYC, then why no uploading front page of your passport here?

Well, this forum respects user's privacy, which is one of the things bitcoin represents, and as such, this forum does not require it's users to share their private and personal informations here except the user wishes to do so on his or her won accord.

But have you bothered to think of this, what if this forum actually required users to submit their private and personal informations for kyc verifications, what if this was a requirement needed by the services we promote and make money from on this forum, what if this was a requirement they need for them to hire us, don't you think alot of users on this forum would have gladly submitted their IDs?, and other personal information, if not for anything, for the money they make on or from this forum through the services they promote..

Well, I leave you to ponder on that, but all the same, kyc is not something we should really worry about, as long as you are only submitting your documents to reputable and we'll trusted platforms, not platforms that will turn around and sell their users private information to other companies money.

My comment was relied to a user who has said that we should not worry about KYC. If he is so brave to share private data, then why not demonstrate bravery? Personally, I would not share KYC, not on the forum, not to casino. Maybe reputed exchange would be and exception. With the fact that online casino licenses dont cost much, and it isnt costly to open a new casino (compared to exchange), I would avoid giving casinos to much info about myself.

OK, I think I perfectly understand you, and actually, when it comes to the issue of kyc, it's been a very hot topic and one that I don't see fading any time soon,  it's always our choice to choose whether to comply or not to comply, and since it's always an individual decisions, it is perfectly OK for us to respect each other's decision.

There are people who don't mind giving their private documents to any platform for their account verification, possibly because they count it as nothing, while there are others who possibly have their life tied to their private documents and won't let it out to any platform even if it's gonna cost them a million dollar loss, this is one of those things that actually makes us all different, and that difference we must respect.

Speaking of exchanges and casinos, some people may want to argue that are actually no much difference, a casino costing less to build than a crypto exchange have nothing to when it comes to reputation and trust, for it is still possible for a casino that cost less to build to be more trusted in keeping their users private information safe, than an exchange that cost billions of dollars to build, it all depends on the type people running the both platforms, respectively speaking.

[passwordnow]

When it comes on KYC when withdrawing then this is usually be applied once you do able to reach up those threshold on which its normal but if they do ask for the KYC
even if only a few dollars then this is a solid indication that you are dealing with a scammy site.

Not all casinos that asks you for the first time of withdrawal to KYC are not scams. There are incidents that they're protecting their platform from money laundering even if it's just for a few dollars. I think that the justification here is when users deposits and then did nothing on their platform but suddenly tries to withdraw even for just a few dollars. Then, that gambler is subject to comply for any documentation that they're going to ask. It sounds crazy, right? But that can be one of the many reasons why they're asking kyc to any user that they think is violating the usage and capacity of their casino. There are many instances that they will ask it out of nowhere regardless of the amount you withdraw but that's their right. We can't do anything when they try to ask a user to kyc upon withdrawal and the approval of that withdrawal is subject on how's the user going to respond with their demand of kyc and verification documents. We don't like that but it can happen to anyone but I am glad that with few and small amounts, I'm not asked with that in stake.

[mak013]

It is so. That`s why i cares only about phone and debt/credit cards. I has a mate that even don`t know about internet, but i find his data. He never share it someone except federal services and big banks.
In the casino they can KYC you during first several withdrawals, even if they are small enough. Their security bots can decide that you are a cheater. That`s why i make few fast withdrawal in new casino to KYC when i want but not when i need my prize fast.

That is very true, in fact people who have nothing to do with putting things on the internet nor do they have social networks always get some of their information, this is something that can generate a lot of controversy, even so things are Delicate and given this it makes days I read a post on Instagram that showed a site where all the data appeared on the web and Where it Was Registered , but the truth was it Was very late and I Didn't check it, now the truth is I can't find that Post , but it was on a Page that It's Called qpasag ,  it was something like that.

What you do in casinos to avoid Tracking , in some way it is something that is usually safe, of course it is not something special or a practice that I see as safe, but if it works for you it is very good, the truth is in other networks I do not I have my Information, Usually they are Avatars or things that do not make sense with my data, but the documentation that one has in the air is Somehow filtered either from the database , Cloud or among Other Things, it is Difficult to Maintain Anonymous.

Of course when i said that we mustn`t be afraid of KYC it doesn`t mean that we can post our data on every site. The casino just one more organization that has your data. No one gives you guarantee that it would be safe, but other organizations are the same. And no one casino(except scam of course) don`t plan to share your data for somebody else.

[rodskee]

Well, the truth is that if some type of casino changes its rules, that for me represents a violation of the rights that you have as a player, because you cannot do things like that by changing the rules and without being able to accept the rules, because in a clause they can put it in a very crazy way to never win, just so that the casino benefits, and being in a casino playing something like that is equivalent to cheating, rape, theft, worthy of a casino with bad influences, in fact, in this case things They can happen differently if the casino participates and wants to change the Tos the players have to accept the new Tos that the casino changes, that is the correct and legal way.

I hope you remember that some of these gambling platforms also used to state it on their policies that their rules are subjected to changes and they will ask you to acknowledge that you have read and understand their conditions of service before accepting the approval for your registration while at the point of signing up, and all we do is to check the button and click yes even though we don't read anything.

Email is there , as long as we have access in our email account then you will
surely be updated in all the changes in gambling sites nut that will change if the
casino is scam that they will change without letting their players ready.
and also those casino that supposed to not asking KYC but when you need
to withdraw they will put you in spot kyc then that is another story.,

[arwin100]

It is so. That`s why i cares only about phone and debt/credit cards. I has a mate that even don`t know about internet, but i find his data. He never share it someone except federal services and big banks.
In the casino they can KYC you during first several withdrawals, even if they are small enough. Their security bots can decide that you are a cheater. That`s why i make few fast withdrawal in new casino to KYC when i want but not when i need my prize fast.

That is very true, in fact people who have nothing to do with putting things on the internet nor do they have social networks always get some of their information, this is something that can generate a lot of controversy, even so things are Delicate and given this it makes days I read a post on Instagram that showed a site where all the data appeared on the web and Where it Was Registered , but the truth was it Was very late and I Didn't check it, now the truth is I can't find that Post , but it was on a Page that It's Called qpasag ,  it was something like that.

What you do in casinos to avoid Tracking , in some way it is something that is usually safe, of course it is not something special or a practice that I see as safe, but if it works for you it is very good, the truth is in other networks I do not I have my Information, Usually they are Avatars or things that do not make sense with my data, but the documentation that one has in the air is Somehow filtered either from the database , Cloud or among Other Things, it is Difficult to Maintain Anonymous.

Of course when i said that we mustn`t be afraid of KYC it doesn`t mean that we can post our data on every site. The casino just one more organization that has your data. No one gives you guarantee that it would be safe, but other organizations are the same. And no one casino(except scam of course) don`t plan to share your data for somebody else.

The exact thing with that is we should never get afraid of KYC if we know the platform we are submitting our data is long time running casino which reputation has already been proven for so many years for this we can guarantee our safety.

But if we talk about those new casino then ask a KYC by earliest of our registration or late which other casino do upon requesting a huge withdrawal then we should start to doubt or worry about their request since we don't know how good their security for keeping our private details since if this was been compromised then for sure that we are in big trouble for that.

[Shamm]

Email is there , as long as we have access in our email account then you will
surely be updated in all the changes in gambling sites nut that will change if the
casino is scam that they will change without letting their players ready.
and also those casino that supposed to not asking KYC but when you need
to withdraw they will put you in spot kyc then that is another story.,

We can not deny the fact that everyone of us knows that there are a lot of gambling sites who is doing like that, in Their announcement they said that they will not ask for any KYC but in the end of the game and we gonna withdraw our balance then they will refer us to a KYC in order to withdraw and that is a bad idea for sure.. but still there are some casino who's doing this but they are legitimate which we can say that it's part of their strategy's .

[Hamphser]

It is so. That`s why i cares only about phone and debt/credit cards. I has a mate that even don`t know about internet, but i find his data. He never share it someone except federal services and big banks.
In the casino they can KYC you during first several withdrawals, even if they are small enough. Their security bots can decide that you are a cheater. That`s why i make few fast withdrawal in new casino to KYC when i want but not when i need my prize fast.

That is very true, in fact people who have nothing to do with putting things on the internet nor do they have social networks always get some of their information, this is something that can generate a lot of controversy, even so things are Delicate and given this it makes days I read a post on Instagram that showed a site where all the data appeared on the web and Where it Was Registered , but the truth was it Was very late and I Didn't check it, now the truth is I can't find that Post , but it was on a Page that It's Called qpasag ,  it was something like that.

What you do in casinos to avoid Tracking , in some way it is something that is usually safe, of course it is not something special or a practice that I see as safe, but if it works for you it is very good, the truth is in other networks I do not I have my Information, Usually they are Avatars or things that do not make sense with my data, but the documentation that one has in the air is Somehow filtered either from the database , Cloud or among Other Things, it is Difficult to Maintain Anonymous.

Of course when i said that we mustn`t be afraid of KYC it doesn`t mean that we can post our data on every site. The casino just one more organization that has your data. No one gives you guarantee that it would be safe, but other organizations are the same. And no one casino(except scam of course) don`t plan to share your data for somebody else.

The exact thing with that is we should never get afraid of KYC if we know the platform we are submitting our data is long time running casino which reputation has already been proven for so many years for this we can guarantee our safety.

But if we talk about those new casino then ask a KYC by earliest of our registration or late which other casino do upon requesting a huge withdrawal then we should start to doubt or worry about their request since we don't know how good their security for keeping our private details since if this was been compromised then for sure that we are in big trouble for that.

You cant really blame out those people not to have that kind of trust on submitting out their personal identifications on which we know that once these information been leaked out then we do already have
the idea on where these information might really be ending up into. Also, the main reason on why crypto market had become that popular or known is that because of that anonymous thing that we are
really that liking into but since everything is subject to change specially with these centralized platforms then they are really that prone to regulation on which it would be normal that they will really be
having these kind of words into their minds and even to myself would really be having that kind of hesitation.

[Dunamisx]

Email is there , as long as we have access in our email account then you will
surely be updated in all the changes in gambling sites nut that will change if the
casino is scam that they will change without letting their players ready.
and also those casino that supposed to not asking KYC but when you need
to withdraw they will put you in spot kyc then that is another story.,

We can not deny the fact that everyone of us knows that there are a lot of gambling sites who is doing like that, in Their announcement they said that they will not ask for any KYC but in the end of the game and we gonna withdraw our balance then they will refer us to a KYC in order to withdraw and that is a bad idea for sure.. but still there are some casino who's doing this but they are legitimate which we can say that it's part of their strategy's .

This is now left on us to make research well enough on choosing a gambling casino, we cannot just see any and accept using them like that when we already have one which we have been using for long and are satisfying, except for the reason whereby we are sure about the developers to be reliable and already have this same consistent service provision from their past projects, or we rather receive a recommendation from those using them already.

[shasan]

My comment was relied to a user who has said that we should not worry about KYC. If he is so brave to share private data, then why not demonstrate bravery? Personally, I would not share KYC, not on the forum, not to casino. Maybe reputed exchange would be and exception. With the fact that online casino licenses dont cost much, and it isnt costly to open a new casino (compared to exchange), I would avoid giving casinos to much info about myself.

If you can't rely on and trust then there is no reason to share your KYC. But I doubt there is doubt there is a good number of casinos that don't require KYC documents. I am aware of the leakage of KYC documents but I do not think it will affect us too much as our documents can be leaked in various ways out of gambling sites.