[XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency

[Febo]

Hello Monero community,

Is it still possible to get the physical Monero coins? https://cryptonic.net/product/order/4/ seems to be out of stock.

Ha. That is a good sign. I have one of their 2014 coins from first testing series. Not for sale ofcourse

Smoothie was making physical Monero also, a bit smaller then these cryptonic ones. Let me find a link for you.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1499278.0

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[Hueristic]

Hey guys, join the Monero Fantasy Football League 2017!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1971415.0

[daveon]

Thanks dEBRUYNE and Febo, I will try your suggestions.

[dimaklmn]

Hello! Help please! How to generate a Block blob data? (submitblock)

http://i12.pixs.ru/storage/1/2/3/Screenshot_6063332_26595123.jpg

[xs.over]

Hey, devs, are you going to do something with f*ng BOTNETs??? They increased net difficulty to the moon and drops profit even lower than scam coins like bytecoin.  

[TheFuzzStone]

f*ng BOTNETs

D -- Decentralization 

[Globb0]

What is your suggestion ?

[Jungian]

lolz, the butthurt

[visdude]

Can someone please explain how botnets help decentralize the Monero nework? Are they mining through a pool (centralized) or are they "individually" solo mining (decentralized)?

I'm just a regular Joe trying to understand this particular concept.

[Febo]

What is your suggestion ?

If everyone dumps their Moneros and price goes to $10 then many will stop mine and difficulty will go down. Easy peasy. We can do it!!!

Can someone please explain how botnets help decentralize the Monero nework? Are they mining through a pool (centralized) or are they "individually" solo mining (decentralized)?

I'm just a regular Joe trying to understand this particular concept.

what makes you think that botnets are mining it?

[dEBRUYNE]

"Ledger Hardware Wallet - Monero integration protocol for review"

https://github.com/LedgerHQ/blue-app-monero/blob/master/doc/RCT%20Monero%20validation%20on%20Ledger%20NanoS%20-%20v0.5.pdf

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/6invis/ledger_hardware_wallet_monero_integration/

[visdude]

What is your suggestion ?

If everyone dumps their Moneros and price goes to $10 then many will stop mine and difficulty will go down. Easy peasy. We can do it!!!

Can someone please explain how botnets help decentralize the Monero nework? Are they mining through a pool (centralized) or are they "individually" solo mining (decentralized)?

I'm just a regular Joe trying to understand this particular concept.

what makes you think that botnets are mining it?

Why are you getting defensive instead of explaining this concept? Did I specifically say that "botnets are mining it"? Somebody else brought it up; don't shoot the messenger. I'm merely trying to understand how botnets help to decentralize the network since this subject is often brought up on here? If you can't explain it, why respond to my query in the first place?

[Febo]

Why are you getting defensive instead of explaining this concept? Did I specifically say that "botnets are mining it"? Somebody else brought it up; don't shoot the messenger. I'm merely trying to understand how botnets help to decentralize the network since this subject is often brought up on here? If you can't explain it, why respond to my query in the first place?

I do not mine much and know little about it. I also never heard much that  botnets specially are helping decentralizing the network.

Botnets are just like an other miner securing the network. and I guess are decentralizing it the same way as any other miner. If they mine at smaller pools more then if they are mining at bigger pools.


But my question still stands. Why do you think that this last jump in hashing power is from botnets and not from people that google for Monero this week more then ever in past?

[cAPSLOCK]

To the extent botnets are being used to mine Monero they are not so much decentralizing as they are securing the network.  It could be assumed that very powerful botnets could be used to CENTRALIZE the network.  But this is likely only theoretical since as we grow it will become prohibitively expensive to aim that much power at the Monero blockchain.

Botnet's do not cause the Monero blockchain to be decentralized.  The fact the Monero blockchain is truly decentralized causes botnets.

But botnets secure the blockchain by employing a large number of individual CPUs to mine which makes attacking the blockchain harder just the same as the miners of bitcoin do.

I personally see botnet involvement in a similar light to dark web markets.  In fact I see them as a little more negative as they are abusive by nature.  And since I am not an anarchist or someone with Asperger's syndrome I have a hard time accepting them as a net positive for Monero.  I think they are not. 

But we cannot be a truly decentralized, fungible, unregulated monetary system without them.  They are a side effect of our success.

Wild west gonna wild west.

[visdude]

Why are you getting defensive instead of explaining this concept? Did I specifically say that "botnets are mining it"? Somebody else brought it up; don't shoot the messenger. I'm merely trying to understand how botnets help to decentralize the network since this subject is often brought up on here? If you can't explain it, why respond to my query in the first place?

I do not mine much and know little about it. I also never heard much that  botnets specially are helping decentralizing the network.

Botnets are just like an other miner securing the network. and I guess are decentralizing it the same way as any other miner. If they mine at smaller pools more then if they are mining at bigger pools.


But my question still stands. Why do you think that this last jump in hashing power is from botnets and not from people that google for Monero this week more then ever in past?

I think you have failed to comprehend the gist of my posts. You seem to keep putting words into my mouth. For the Nth time, I wasn't the one who brought it up and it's definitely not the first time it's been brought up in these forums. It's not my fault if you missed the rest of them. Since you've been defensive about this topic, perhaps you control these botnets yourself and are resorting to misdirection/distraction of my sincere inquiry to understand the concept (botnets help decentralize the network). If you don't have an objective explanation, then you don't. It's OK. Your assertion that the current spike is not caused by botnets is non sequitur. My question was very specific.

[xs.over]

Again, it's confirmed that these is new botnet
New 'Bondnet' Botnet Mines Cryptocurrencies

NSA Malware Used to Infect Windows PCs with Cryptocurrency Miner

[Hueristic]

I can confirm a ton of the new hash power is coming from OCN.

[saddambitcoin]

what's OCN?

[alevlaslo]

There are three coins with the best level of secrecy - dash, monero and zec. Zec is still young, not tested by time, and a vulnerability was found in the monero, which was removed afterwards, but the sediment remained.

[iCEBREAKER]

what's OCN?

Overclock.net.  Huge, old PC performance enthusiast community.

They banned discussion of Bitcoin for years, until they had to concede defeat by Honey Badger.

But now they love getting paid XMR to benchmark their 1337 rigz!