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January 20, 2015, 02:58:07 PM
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Happy > 400000 Monero block day!  Cool

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January 20, 2015, 03:12:10 PM
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I've been using mymonero.com and really liking it (thanks devs!) - but today I keep getting "Server Error" when I try to log in.

Is anyone else seeing this?
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January 20, 2015, 03:13:51 PM
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I've been using mymonero.com and really liking it (thanks devs!) - but today I keep getting "Server Error" when I try to log in.

Is anyone else seeing this?

it works for me

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January 20, 2015, 03:24:40 PM
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Now that Mike Hearn's Lighthouse crowdfunding app is out, let's figure out how to use it to raise funds for Monero development: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2t1an9/bitcoinpowered_crowdfunding_app_lighthouse_has/
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January 20, 2015, 03:31:33 PM
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Now that Mike Hearn's Lighthouse crowdfunding app is out, let's figure out how to use it to raise funds for Monero development: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2t1an9/bitcoinpowered_crowdfunding_app_lighthouse_has/

Yes, lets throw more Monero at scammers... Haven't heard anything from Atrides in a while...
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January 20, 2015, 03:49:07 PM
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Now that Mike Hearn's Lighthouse crowdfunding app is out, let's figure out how to use it to raise funds for Monero development: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2t1an9/bitcoinpowered_crowdfunding_app_lighthouse_has/

Yes, lets throw more Monero at scammers... Haven't heard anything from Atrides in a while...


we want to start. I will PM a link to created group to all FreeBazaar backers to discuss different aspects.


He's active on the forum - he didn't disappear.  Development takes time (apparently). I don't code so I don't know.

Of course, it might take less time if everyone listened to http://www.psychedelik.com/dark.html

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January 20, 2015, 03:55:09 PM
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Now that Mike Hearn's Lighthouse crowdfunding app is out, let's figure out how to use it to raise funds for Monero development: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2t1an9/bitcoinpowered_crowdfunding_app_lighthouse_has/

Yes, lets throw more Monero at scammers... Haven't heard anything from Atrides in a while...

He's setup a private group to keep contributors updated. His last activity in there was a couple of days ago.

Although I think pa was referring more to core Monero development rather than peripheral projects:)

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January 20, 2015, 04:36:55 PM
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Now that Mike Hearn's Lighthouse crowdfunding app is out, let's figure out how to use it to raise funds for Monero development: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2t1an9/bitcoinpowered_crowdfunding_app_lighthouse_has/

Yes, lets throw more Monero at scammers... Haven't heard anything from Atrides in a while...

He's setup a private group to keep contributors updated. His last activity in there was a couple of days ago.

Although I think pa was referring more to core Monero development rather than peripheral projects:)

Yes I was referring to core Monero development. Personally, even though I've contributed to the general dev fund and expect to do so again, I'd rather contribute to sub-campaigns aimed at the development of specific features. (No doubt this preference is based on some cognitive illusion, but there it is.)
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January 20, 2015, 09:51:32 PM
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Every day the database merge doesn't reach production, Monero declines in practicality

Just to clarify - how much have you personally donated to cover the hundreds of man-hours that have been spent on the blockchainDB and lmdb implementation? Because hey, buddy, if you're not commensurately paying for it then you don't have permission to demand anything. At all. Ever.

And there *IS* a practical way to donate, it is in CryptoKingdom the Game Smiley

Just tell to donate to Monero House, and every day a sum that you choose, no matter how small or big, is given to the developers!

My donation is 5 XMR/day  Smiley

Is 'CryptoKingdom' somewhat an online game?
Can you describe this way of donation with links of how-to?


CryptoKingdom is online, there is a site in development but right now the gameplay happens in this forum, IRC, and the character database + map is on Google.

Check out the thread here for more info: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=819073.0

And PM me if you want to join the game!

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January 20, 2015, 09:58:59 PM
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Can I see what the map looks like?

Is the link public?

 
Every day the database merge doesn't reach production, Monero declines in practicality

Just to clarify - how much have you personally donated to cover the hundreds of man-hours that have been spent on the blockchainDB and lmdb implementation? Because hey, buddy, if you're not commensurately paying for it then you don't have permission to demand anything. At all. Ever.

And there *IS* a practical way to donate, it is in CryptoKingdom the Game Smiley

Just tell to donate to Monero House, and every day a sum that you choose, no matter how small or big, is given to the developers!

My donation is 5 XMR/day  Smiley

Is 'CryptoKingdom' somewhat an online game?
Can you describe this way of donation with links of how-to?


CryptoKingdom is online, there is a site in development but right now the gameplay happens in this forum, IRC, and the character database + map is on Google.

Check out the thread here for more info: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=819073.0

And PM me if you want to join the game!

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January 20, 2015, 10:03:39 PM
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Click on the "city map" link on the thread mentioned below.

Can I see what the map looks like?

Is the link public?

 
Every day the database merge doesn't reach production, Monero declines in practicality

Just to clarify - how much have you personally donated to cover the hundreds of man-hours that have been spent on the blockchainDB and lmdb implementation? Because hey, buddy, if you're not commensurately paying for it then you don't have permission to demand anything. At all. Ever.

And there *IS* a practical way to donate, it is in CryptoKingdom the Game Smiley

Just tell to donate to Monero House, and every day a sum that you choose, no matter how small or big, is given to the developers!

My donation is 5 XMR/day  Smiley

Is 'CryptoKingdom' somewhat an online game?
Can you describe this way of donation with links of how-to?


CryptoKingdom is online, there is a site in development but right now the gameplay happens in this forum, IRC, and the character database + map is on Google.

Check out the thread here for more info: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=819073.0

And PM me if you want to join the game!
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January 20, 2015, 10:04:32 PM
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CryptoKingdom info, as supplied to me by saddambitcoin:

Buildings, etc database (Map): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ln1LSQwPajGNMhtQ8LieWKyQ4rgo-Vnr6-NHkx-Ee00/edit?pli=1#gid=412874366

Another Database: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tgIzgMza7NQsTpMO9pHke1ZVXYH7l5Sj5bHdZHItivo/edit?pli=1#gid=1503284768

Rulebook: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8bqiuTGRuKpaFRXak9HNG1jYjQ/view?pli=1
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January 20, 2015, 10:16:24 PM
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Thanks.

Click on the "city map" link on the thread mentioned below.

Can I see what the map looks like?

Is the link public?



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January 21, 2015, 04:50:42 AM
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http://m.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2015/01/without-drugs-whats-the-point-of-bitcoin/384622/

Give a man a fish and he eats for a day.  Give a man a Poisson distribution and he eats at random times independent of one another, at a constant known rate.
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January 21, 2015, 05:20:19 AM
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Every day the database merge doesn't reach production, Monero declines in practicality

I pointed out a truth, not a demand

And again I dispute the truth of your claim. Moore's law in memory is outpacing Monero blockchain growth currently. I'd love to have a database working perfectly yesterday, but every day that goes by (given current trends), practicality of the existing solution increases not decreases.

(Given a hypothetical supertrend explosion of Monero usage I acknowledge the memory size limit will be an issue.)

A supertrend explosion of Monero usage could easily occur if the bulls get back control of Bitcoin and trigger the 1 MB blocksize limit. Ironically the current bear market in Bitcoin is giving the Monero project much needed time for the database development. For this reason a bear market in Bitcoin until the database in completed suites me just fine.

Concerned that blockchain bloat will lead to centralization? Storing less than 4 GB of data once required the budget of a superpower and a warehouse full of punched cards. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/IBM_card_storage.NARA.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punched_card
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January 21, 2015, 05:34:54 AM
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Personally, even though I've contributed to the general dev fund and expect to do so again, I'd rather contribute to sub-campaigns aimed at the development of specific features. (No doubt this preference is based on some cognitive illusion, but there it is.)

Mental artifacts or not, I'm hesitant to contribute to the general fund because I disagree with resources being used for non-core missions like Yet Another Forum Software.

OTOH,  a 'Darkfunding' .onion/eepsite would be immediately useful as a platform for further "sub-campaigns aimed at the development of specific features."


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January 21, 2015, 06:08:30 AM
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hardcore bitcoiners are in for a rude awekening:

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The same features that made Silk Road possible have now turned against him, and casual observers are realizing that Bitcoin isn’t as anonymous as they thought.

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Ironically, it would have been much easier to conceal these assets in the traditional financial system. Conventional money laundering is still an enormous headache for prosecutors, and subpoenaing the transaction records for an offshore bank is much harder than simply checking the blockchain.

http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/14/7546669/silk-road-trial-bitcoin-tracking

I'm still against use of cryptocurrencies for illegal stuff but this shows how much undeserved credit Bitcoin has received, credit that will be deposited in Monero soon.

The key is that in the Ross Ulbricht case the prosecution has access to the Bitcoin private keys and can trace all the transactions, via the blockchain. Even in the case of Monero. If the prosecution has access to the private keys the anonymity would be broken. They would for example know the money that was received but not the address of who sent it. Now if they can get the address information from enough of the buyers then they have a very strong case since they have many buyers testifying that they sent x amount of crypto currency in payment for drugs to a given address and they also have the evidence that that particular address and the corresponding private keys belong the the person they are prosecuting.

By the way fungibility for innocent third parties is the real killer application for Monero over Bitcoin here.

Edit: XMR in this situation is like a Denarius. It was valid across the Roman Empire, regardless of whether a Carthaginian has handled that particular Denarius at one point. A more modern example would be US currency used to purchase goods and services in Cuba.

Concerned that blockchain bloat will lead to centralization? Storing less than 4 GB of data once required the budget of a superpower and a warehouse full of punched cards. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/IBM_card_storage.NARA.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punched_card
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January 21, 2015, 07:12:31 AM
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Personally, even though I've contributed to the general dev fund and expect to do so again, I'd rather contribute to sub-campaigns aimed at the development of specific features. (No doubt this preference is based on some cognitive illusion, but there it is.)

Mental artifacts or not, I'm hesitant to contribute to the general fund because I disagree with resources being used for non-core missions like Yet Another Forum Software.

OTOH,  a 'Darkfunding' .onion/eepsite would be immediately useful as a platform for further "sub-campaigns aimed at the development of specific features."

You read our year-end report, right? Not a single satoshi of the 47.58 BTC we received in donations was spent on the forum software, and only a very small portion of the 164.5 BTC the core team personally put in was spent on that.

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January 21, 2015, 07:20:09 AM
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Personally, even though I've contributed to the general dev fund and expect to do so again, I'd rather contribute to sub-campaigns aimed at the development of specific features. (No doubt this preference is based on some cognitive illusion, but there it is.)

Mental artifacts or not, I'm hesitant to contribute to the general fund because I disagree with resources being used for non-core missions like Yet Another Forum Software.

OTOH,  a 'Darkfunding' .onion/eepsite would be immediately useful as a platform for further "sub-campaigns aimed at the development of specific features."

You read our year-end report, right? Not a single satoshi of the 47.58 BTC we received in donations was spent on the forum software, and only a very small portion of the 164.5 BTC the core team personally put in was spent on that.

Yes, I was especially happy/relieved to read that part of the report.  But we were talking about cognitive illusions, such as unfounded fears.  Sorry to imply otherwise!   Tongue


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January 21, 2015, 09:07:46 AM
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Ironically the current bear market in Bitcoin is giving the Monero project much needed time for the database development. For this reason a bear market in Bitcoin until the database in completed suites me just fine.

I've had the same thoughts exactly. If bitcoin were booming now with 100 million users, and XMR were still in the alpha stages, then XMR would be getting seriously left behind. In addition, the emission is high right now, so it would be difficult for XMR to maintain a high value over time even if XMR were initially pulled up by bitcoin's boom. Thus, the situation now is perfect.

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