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March 08, 2016, 05:11:19 PM |
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Thanks for making that article. Furthermore, bear in mind that you can basically pay any Bitcoin address privately with Monero using xmr.to.
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March 08, 2016, 05:23:41 PM |
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I support it, and the rate seems pretty reasonable. Of course, in my head, Monero is still worth 50 cents. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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March 08, 2016, 05:38:26 PM |
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I support it, and the rate seems pretty reasonable. Of course, in my head, Monero is still worth 50 cents. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) So you're saying that Fiddy Cent loves Monero?
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March 08, 2016, 07:01:57 PM |
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I support it, and the rate seems pretty reasonable. Of course, in my head, Monero is still worth 50 cents. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) So you're saying that Fiddy Cent loves Monero? Yeah he's gonna take Monero to the Candy Shop LOL
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March 08, 2016, 10:29:43 PM |
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Fifty Cent accepts bitcoin. Let's tell him about Monero.
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March 09, 2016, 01:53:39 AM |
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XMR needs to be ready to step in as soon as that Gui is ready. And definitely before that Zcash bullshit is released. Because it is guaranteed they will be stealing the privacy spotlight from all other coins even though they have so many gaping flaws they are not to be trusted on release. I just can't imagine having to trust 3 people with an entire economies worth of wealth!! MY god That is worse than the current Banking system!
Let me tell you what's gonna happen, because of course it's gonna happen. We got these genesis keys, right? That if used would let us do whatever want to the blockchain. So of course they can never be used. BUT, if someone were to find an exploit and counterfeit infinite coins it would also wreck the opaque blockchain.... UNLESS we secretly keep the Genesis keys (and of course I mean in a very secure place) and only if things go horribly wrong will we ever use them....
So you can rest assured that with ZCash, there will almost certainly be someone with keys to your entire economy because 'it's a responsible fail-safe to have'.
Fifty Cent accepts bitcoin. Let's tell him about Monero.
At least he won't be ordered to bankruptcy court to explain all the Monero he is holding. In fact, someone needs to photoshop those pics of him with all that money saying "Shoulda held Monero..." ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FaclLt5i.jpg&t=665&c=N2Rav7utNNJG2Q) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FG6kHxcj.jpg&t=665&c=8CettM8D1QFjOw)
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Account is back under control of the real AmericanPegasus.
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March 09, 2016, 07:11:55 AM |
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For Advertisement. PM me to discuss.
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March 09, 2016, 07:13:09 AM |
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Certainly not. I have no idea what would be going on there.
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March 09, 2016, 08:12:05 AM |
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Certainly not. I have no idea what would be going on there. Found it, my fault ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) On the screen they first provide the ID and then way down the base address. Maybe someone of the devs could remind them to put both in one row and not separate them ShapeshiftShapeshift1
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March 09, 2016, 10:50:50 PM |
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March 09, 2016, 11:10:15 PM |
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It is only exploratory so far, but a major East Coast U.S. V.C. has asked me to brief them on XMR. (Please do not speculate on this basis.). What are the best collateral materials for this purpose? Software engineers with some bitcoin exposure will be there, and I should like to satisfy their questions from script, where possible.
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Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a Poisson distribution and he eats at random times independent of one another, at a constant known rate.
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March 09, 2016, 11:22:58 PM |
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It is only exploratory so far, but a major East Coast U.S. V.C. has asked me to brief them on XMR. (Please do not speculate on this basis.). What are the best collateral materials for this purpose? Software engineers with some bitcoin exposure will be there, and I should like to satisfy their questions from script, where possible.
Intro: http://www.slideshare.net/arnuschky/monero-genevaMonero Talk at Bitcoinference https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEVm1dMn5KsLTB E202 - Understanding Monero https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E6ftNOe0Iohttps://moneroeconomy.com/faq-pageThe difference between bad and well-developed digital cash will determine whether we have a dictatorship or a real democracy. David Chaum 1996Fungibility provides privacy as a side effect. Adam Back 2014" Monero" : { Private - Auditable - 100% Fungible - Adaptive Blocksize - Wild & Free ® - Intro - Wallets - Podcats - Roadmap - Dice - Blackjack - Github - Android }
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March 09, 2016, 11:30:34 PM |
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Quality post Icebreaker, nice one. Thanks for that.
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March 09, 2016, 11:37:02 PM |
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It's nice to quote Adam Back but I think his formulation is weak. It's better expressed as " Fungibility requires privacy". The later relationship makes it clear there is no other way to obtain fungibility at the macro scale than to offer privacy at the user scale.
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Monero's privacy and therefore fungibility are MUCH stronger than Bitcoin's. This makes Monero a better candidate to deserve the term "digital cash".
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March 09, 2016, 11:38:55 PM |
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Monero's privacy and therefore fungibility are MUCH stronger than Bitcoin's. This makes Monero a better candidate to deserve the term "digital cash".
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March 09, 2016, 11:41:46 PM |
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It's nice to quote Adam Back but I think his formulation is weak. It's better expressed as " Fungibility requires privacy". The later relationship makes it clear there is no other way to obtain fungibility at the macro scale than to offer privacy at the user scale. Adam's (admittedly subtle) formulation is exactly right; yours creates chicken-or-egg recursion. Did you listen to the context? He may have put up some reddit posts on the subject too. CBA to find them tho. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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March 09, 2016, 11:44:02 PM |
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Fully funded already, thanks to everyone who donated!
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March 09, 2016, 11:54:42 PM |
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It's nice to quote Adam Back but I think his formulation is weak. It's better expressed as " Fungibility requires privacy". The later relationship makes it clear there is no other way to obtain fungibility at the macro scale than to offer privacy at the user scale. Adam's (admittedly subtle) formulation is exactly right; yours creates chicken-or-egg recursion. Did you listen to the context? He may have put up some reddit posts on the subject too. CBA to find them tho. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) It's more a matter of PR and catchyness rather than pure logic, for me both are correct in terms of logic. What I find weak/unintuitive with his statement is that he expresses the desired result at the global scale (fungibility) and says "by the way that also gives you" the desired result at the individual scale (pricacy). I much prefer to express that if you want to get to the general goal "fungibility", you'll have to design your system for the goal "privacy" and there is no alternative that'd by-pass it.
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Monero's privacy and therefore fungibility are MUCH stronger than Bitcoin's. This makes Monero a better candidate to deserve the term "digital cash".
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March 10, 2016, 12:13:45 AM |
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It's nice to quote Adam Back but I think his formulation is weak. It's better expressed as " Fungibility requires privacy". The later relationship makes it clear there is no other way to obtain fungibility at the macro scale than to offer privacy at the user scale. Adam's (admittedly subtle) formulation is exactly right; yours creates chicken-or-egg recursion. Did you listen to the context? He may have put up some reddit posts on the subject too. CBA to find them tho. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) It's more a matter of PR and catchyness rather than pure logic, for me both are correct in terms of logic. What I find weak/unintuitive with his statement is that he expresses the desired result at the global scale (fungibility) and says "by the way that also gives you" the desired result at the individual scale (pricacy). I much prefer to express that if you want to get to the general goal "fungibility", you'll have to design your system for the goal "privacy" and there is no alternative that'd by-pass it Monero's " involuntary" (ie 100%) fungibility is logically prior to its privacy, which is an emergent property. Systemic macro scale fungibility supervenes upon privacy at the individual user level. Pure logic FTW. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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