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June 25, 2018, 05:32:58 AM
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due to the fact that i want to invest in some already established crypto (which monero in my opinion definetley is) i would like to find out more about XMR, where can i find the roadmap for monero?

only scamcoins have roadmaps.

there once was one, a while ago ...  oh it looks like it was updated

https://getmonero.org/resources/roadmap/



Disappointed there's nothing listed on roadmap for 2023.



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June 25, 2018, 05:43:49 AM
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Devs are not even working on this project any more. Even fluffy pony left.

I wrote about that too. Here is original link by Fluffypony himself:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/8lgvw4/introducing_tari_a_decentralised_assets_protocol/

Fluffypony is slowly switching from Monero to Tari developing. Tari is an our future platform for anonymous assets & contracts on top of Monero. It will compete with ETH, EOS or NEM for example. Please read the full link.

And I have to say, it is VERY GOOD sign, Fluffypony left to be the LEADER DEVELOPER of Monero. It does significantly decrease the centralization of developing process of Monero itself, meaning Monero has reached a MATURE state and can survive without Fluffypony or any other single core developer.

Apart with Tari, later this year we get 1) Bullet Proofs that compress the blockchain size growing per unit time up to 80%. 2) Kovri alpha release that allows for the first time to flow all the Monero net traffic over I2P.

Tnx for link, it's very interesting. I believe that the monero has a great future, and we will see this already in the perspective of one year (and do not feed the troll  Grin).

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June 25, 2018, 07:54:32 AM
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due to the fact that i want to invest in some already established crypto (which monero in my opinion definetley is) i would like to find out more about XMR, where can i find the roadmap for monero?

only scamcoins have roadmaps.

there once was one, a while ago ...  oh it looks like it was updated

https://getmonero.org/resources/roadmap/



Are you fucking stupid? The roadmap is "have a coin that has private transactions". And the USA Secret Service wants USA Congress to help them: https://news.bitcoin.com/us-secret-service-congress-help-prevent-illicit-use-privacy-coins/

Obviously when the Feds react viscerally to a coin, it shows that the technology is sound. Privacy coins work and Monero has a giant use case.

The updates to the roadmap are just ASIC resistance. Which brings down the security and value of the coin, exactly as we have witnessed. Monero is the top privacy coin and the US Feds just tipped their hats - privacy coins are officially the growth sector of crypto for the next 1+ year.
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June 25, 2018, 03:16:56 PM
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Neat tweet about new paper from Jameson Loop:
https://twitter.com/lopp/status/1011231056975089664?s=19
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June 26, 2018, 01:43:28 AM
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I think dash is making much more progress in terms of building use case communities around the world. The decentralized governance structure and instantsend tech make it impossible for monero to compete with. This is reflecting in the price.

I suppose the fact that it's a premine scam doesn't factor into the assessment?
The fact is that Dash was not premined and it is not a scam. There was an instamine problem, but it was long time ago and it was sorted and explained. Do your own research and you will find the facts. I actively watch Dash and Monero since 2014 and I have to say that Dash has done much bigger progress than Monero. Anyway we will see in following years which coin will be the real digital cash.

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June 26, 2018, 01:55:37 AM
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You can not ban a decentralized currency.  Bitcoin was banned several times.  But you can easily imprison all Masternode owners that mix coins that was involved in criminal activity.
Bitcoin was banned many times, really?
I have not heard about Bitcoin bans.
Can you give me original articles on these bans, please.
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June 26, 2018, 02:03:14 AM
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You can not ban a decentralized currency.  Bitcoin was banned several times.  But you can easily imprison all Masternode owners that mix coins that was involved in criminal activity.
Bitcoin was banned many times, really?
I have not heard about Bitcoin bans.
Can you give me original articles on these bans, please.

Google china bans bitcoin, I think I heard that before. Tongue

Neat tweet about new paper from Jameson Loop:
https://twitter.com/lopp/status/1011231056975089664?s=19

Tried to read, turned into work, gave up. Tongue

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June 26, 2018, 02:21:35 AM
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Interviewing Lead @monero Developer @fluffypony tomorrow! I have been looking forward to this session for quite some time. What questions do you have to Fluffypony? Make sure to set the reminder and like the video! $XMR #crypto #blockchain #monero
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June 26, 2018, 04:50:33 AM
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You can not ban a decentralized currency.  Bitcoin was banned several times.  But you can easily imprison all Masternode owners that mix coins that was involved in criminal activity.
Bitcoin was banned many times, really?
I have not heard about Bitcoin bans.
Can you give me original articles on these bans, please.

Google china bans bitcoin, I think I heard that before. Tongue

Neat tweet about new paper from Jameson Loop:
https://twitter.com/lopp/status/1011231056975089664?s=19

Tried to read, turned into work, gave up. Tongue

Russia bans bitcoin --> searchengine  Grin

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June 26, 2018, 06:32:54 AM
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Some errors:

2018-04-04 21:40:18.740 7f94397a6700 ERROR wallet.wallet2 src/wallet/wallet2.cpp:5610 !r. THROW EXCEPTION: error::no_connection_to_daemon 2018-04-04 21:40:18.740 7f94397a6700 WARN net.http src/wallet/wallet_errors.h:794 /home/vagrant/slave/monero-gui-ubuntu-amd64/build/monero/src/wallet/wallet2.cpp:5610:N5tools5error23no_connection_to_daemonE: no connection to daemon, request = gettransactions 2018-04-04 21:40:18.740 7f94397a6700 ERROR wallet.wallet2 src/wallet/wallet2.cpp:3827 Failed to save rings, will try again next time 2018-04-04 21:40:18.743 7f94575037c0 ERROR default src/wallet/api/utils.cpp:46 error: std::bad_cast

And these shows the daemon actually works ok after few seconds but GUI stills shows disconnected
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June 26, 2018, 08:39:48 AM
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Some errors:

2018-04-04 21:40:18.740 7f94397a6700 ERROR wallet.wallet2 src/wallet/wallet2.cpp:5610 !r. THROW EXCEPTION: error::no_connection_to_daemon 2018-04-04 21:40:18.740 7f94397a6700 WARN net.http src/wallet/wallet_errors.h:794 /home/vagrant/slave/monero-gui-ubuntu-amd64/build/monero/src/wallet/wallet2.cpp:5610:N5tools5error23no_connection_to_daemonE: no connection to daemon, request = gettransactions 2018-04-04 21:40:18.740 7f94397a6700 ERROR wallet.wallet2 src/wallet/wallet2.cpp:3827 Failed to save rings, will try again next time 2018-04-04 21:40:18.743 7f94575037c0 ERROR default src/wallet/api/utils.cpp:46 error: std::bad_cast

And these shows the daemon actually works ok after few seconds but GUI stills shows disconnected

You're, alas, affected by this issue:

https://github.com/monero-project/monero-gui/issues/1261

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June 26, 2018, 09:00:50 AM
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The fact is that Dash was not premined and it is not a scam. There was an instamine problem, but it was long time ago and it was sorted and explained. Do your own research and you will find the facts. I actively watch Dash and Monero since 2014 and I have to say that Dash has done much bigger progress than Monero. Anyway we will see in following years which coin will be the real digital cash.

It is true, Dash did make a 'progress' that may seem much more than Monero one. But what is the quality of that 'progress'? I was a holder of Dash called Dashcoin in that far 2014 year. And the main goal of Dashcoin was anonymity. What is the Dash anonymity today? What a fundamental math does support the Dash anonymity? No math. Just unverified new code written by newbies like EVAN DUFFIELD. Note he left the core development and is just mentioned as strategy adviser on the official Dash site.

Actually, Dash team has lost focus on anonymity and start to develop several other branches of spontaneous community requirements, such as master-nodes to implement hybrid PoW/PoS, instant payments and decentralized vote system. So they have spread the focus among various tasks. But Dash has neither fundamental scientific-proven math nor well-done programmatic architecture inside. It is a product made 'on knee' of narrow enthusiasts' group.

Nevertheless, I respect the energy that drives Dash core devs. They have done a lot of work indeed, and it can't be denied. But... If I need the true anonymous payments, I do NEVER use Dash. Only Monero does have the fundamental, scientific-proven math inside. ZCoin has too young algorithm that may contain catastrophic vulnerabilities. Furthermore, apart of that, if you just send money between regular and anonymous addresses in ZCoin, you lost anonymity very fast. This fact was discussed a lot in the net...

What about price, Dash costs more than Monero simply because Dash coin supply is much lower. Furthermore, Dash mining algorithm discourages miners to participate a lot, decreasing mining supply when Dash hashrate rises.

P.S. Also you have to trust (though it is not 100% trust) to Dash master-nodes to send 'anonymous' payments.

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June 26, 2018, 11:04:12 AM
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Dark coin that massive scam don't get fooled by the rename


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June 26, 2018, 12:13:01 PM
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I think dash is making much more progress in terms of building use case communities around the world. The decentralized governance structure and instantsend tech make it impossible for monero to compete with. This is reflecting in the price.

You Don't Say?   Undecided

Dash testing critical YTD support levels at 2:1 XMR.  Once that psychologically important round number floor is breached, expect the stampede of Masternode owners rushing for the exists to get very ugly and bloody.

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June 26, 2018, 12:19:32 PM
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Disappointed there's nothing listed on roadmap for 2023.

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Disappointed there's nothing listed on roadmap for 2023.

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I think that 2023 was a reference to the famous Fluffy's Exit Scam which is supposed to happen in 2023  Smiley
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I Never really understood why Monero has such high MCAP.  There are many better projects out there
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Now it is used only as a tool for manipulating pump/dump on exchanges.
Zcash requires further development and "real" anonymity.
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I Never really understood why Monero has such high MCAP.  There are many better projects out there

It's simple really. There is no other project out there that delivers fungibility. Fungibility is arguably necessary for a functional currency. Also it is the only project that delivers privacy if that is something that you need. Well Monero and it's forks and I think you can imagine why it's forks would be taken less seriously. Also bytecoin that it was forked from but bytecoin is really scammy.

If all one was to do was read every projects marketing wank than one would come to the conclusion that there are a dozen projects out there that offer privacy but the other ones also have all these cool and interesting features that monero doesn't have. The reason monero is so capitalized is because all of that marketing wank is just lies while monero doesn't have cool and interesting features it actually does deliver on privacy and fungibility.

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I Never really understood why Monero has such high MCAP.  There are many better projects out there

I never really understood why it is still so low and why shittokens like EOS are valued so high, whitout a functional product.
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