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Author Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency  (Read 4673048 times)
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July 24, 2018, 07:46:05 AM
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Will Kovri be integrated with Monero wallet or will it remain a separate project?

It will both be integrated with Monero and, as far as I know, remain a separate project.

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It's just a micro i2p router if i understand correctly...?

Correct.

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July 24, 2018, 01:45:11 PM
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Monero and Particl have the same anon tech (RingCT) I think they would be happy to know RingCT can be built on top of the btc codebase.


RingCT is just one part of Monero anonymity. There will be 4 once Kovri kick in. The other two are Ring signatures and Stealth addresses....
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July 24, 2018, 04:42:52 PM
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FFS by @Mr.Pickles (main translator in XMR.RU):


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July 24, 2018, 06:10:00 PM
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Monero and Particl have the same anon tech (RingCT) I think they would be happy to know RingCT can be built on top of the btc codebase.


RingCT is just one part of Monero anonymity. There will be 4 once Kovri kick in. The other two are Ring signatures and Stealth addresses....

Five, you forgot sub-addresses.

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July 25, 2018, 01:32:46 AM
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Is monero going to fork off of these FPGA's? I heard they can do 20Khs at 350 watts?
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July 25, 2018, 02:29:47 AM
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Suppose a coin (could be Monero, or could be something else) requires 20 confirmations everywhere (exchanges, merchants, whatever). Suppose this coin also had an update that refused to accept alternate chains deeper than 19 blocks ago. That would, in theory, kill the 51% issue, right? What would the downsides be?

Plagerizind. reported.

I have a theoretical question.Suppose a coin (could be Monero, or could be something else) requires 20 confirmations everywhere (exchanges, merchants, whatever).  Suppose this coin also had an update that refused to accept alternate chains deeper than 19 blocks ago.  That would, in theory, kill the 51% issue, right?  What would the downsides be?

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July 25, 2018, 08:23:11 AM
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For those who can't wait for GUI which supports Monero on Ledger and are not very tech-savy.
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July 26, 2018, 12:38:46 AM
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Anyone have any thoughts about the survival of privacy coins once crypto's like Coval/Emblem, Cardano, etc perfect the side chain transfers?  Seems like they are very close.  If you can transfer funds, files, etc and all the info is burnt ounce accepted, why would you need Verge, Monero, etc?
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July 26, 2018, 03:23:02 AM
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Anyone have any thoughts about the survival of privacy coins once crypto's like Coval/Emblem, Cardano, etc perfect the side chain transfers?  Seems like they are very close.  If you can transfer funds, files, etc and all the info is burnt ounce accepted, why would you need Verge, Monero, etc?

You would never ever need verge so there is that, as for the rest of your answer just read the definition of Plausible deniability.

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July 26, 2018, 03:31:56 AM
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Ok.  Thanx for the reply.  Just seems like it be nice to not have to even use Plausible deniability.
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July 26, 2018, 03:42:06 AM
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Ok.  Thanx for the reply.  Just seems like it be nice to not have to even use Plausible deniability.
The world is not nice. Sad

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July 26, 2018, 05:09:32 AM
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based on what factors , monero was added as base pair exclusive to poloniex ? believe no other exchange has this as base pair

Factor One: XMR is the only 100% fungible, 100% PoW cryptocurrency with decentralized governance and mining (sorry Bitcoin I still love you too)

Factor Two: XMR volume helped Poloniex pay back user funds lost in a security breach

Factor Three: Monero Enterprise Alliance Cool


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July 26, 2018, 07:23:18 AM
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The theory is to focus the initiatives of liberty activists in a single place. Many if us are active in rolling back again legislation. Some are energetic in secession efforts. Some are anarchists, some will be the  libertarians, se Democrats and some Republicans. All attempting to decrease the size and range of the federal government
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July 26, 2018, 08:34:30 AM
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It's apparent XMR happens to be only thing here that suits anarcho-capitalist, so normally it draws people who have such inclination. I'd be surprised to see another thing. In fact, maybe it's even more extreme. I wouldn't dismiss even there have been not a big quantity of responders. Though I must say, I've a conservative inclination

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July 26, 2018, 08:37:51 AM
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Anyone have any thoughts about the survival of privacy coins once crypto's like Coval/Emblem, Cardano, etc perfect the side chain transfers?  Seems like they are very close.  If you can transfer funds, files, etc and all the info is burnt ounce accepted, why would you need Verge, Monero, etc?

First I need to emphasize one more time, real world business is not possible without private transactions. You can prove it easily by taking a glance to the banks, merchants, etc and how they work in details. Today, virtually all the money transfers in the real world are private. Of course, you can easily discuss the Quality of that privacy and find it very poor. But you can't contradict the notion of the privacy itself being used in real world money transfers:

- When you pay by the paper bank notes or metal coins for a Big Mac in McDonalds, your transfer is private because nobody asks your citizen ID.
- When you pay by credit card for a car in Mercedes store, your transfer is private for all the world except store workers and bank workers that must keep your transaction the secret, unless special defined law conditions will be violated.
- Even huge merchants like Amazon don't upload their detailed transaction history to a public domain, they just need to generate reports to the narrow social institutes like tax department, club of shareholders, etc. Note Donald Trump hasn't declared his tax payments at all and he become the US president easily.
- And so on.

OPPOSITE TO THE REAL MONEY WORLD, MOST CRYPTOCURRENCY BLOCKCHAIN TECHNOLOGIES ARE NOT PRIVATE, BUT RATHER COMPLETELY TRANSPARENT! COMPLETELY!

How do you think, could most blockchain technologies be applied to transfer money in the real world?! Of course, No! They could be used for thousands of things, EXCEPT the money transfers! There are more and more people begin to undersand that real business aspect, for example:
https://themarketmogul.com/monero-cryptocurrency/

Monero, from the other hand, is THE ONLY cryptocurrency among large ones, that has BLOCKCHAIN COMPLETELY PRIVATE WITHOUT A BIT OF TRANSPARENCY. Other 'privacy' coins are just compromises that built around notion of privacy.

Even ZCash & zk-snark algorithm that relies on initial trust to generate genesis blockchain parameters that hide the rest of blockchain, it is the compromise. In other words, in ZCash you must trust the developers whether they generated initial parameters secretly, didn't say them to the side person, and burnt them out forever. Also ZCash is not private by default like Monero, and if you transfer money between ZCash's stealth and public addresses, you lost the anonymity quickly. That vulnerabilities of ZCash were discussed on the Internet widely and you'll google them easily. I don't even speak about other Monero "competitors" like Dash, because Dash is nothing more than a children sandbox, in terms of strict privacy. They just have famous PR team.

So you can see, Monero is the only transfer system that offers perfect privacy without you need to trust to anybody.

"...If you can transfer funds, files, etc and all the info is burnt ounce accepted..."

- I answer: side chains, lightning networks, etc. NEED YOU MUST TRUST to the side agents, so the quality of the privacy achieved is not greater than quality of bank workers that say they keep you money secrets.

Furthermore, in terms of side chains, assets trade, smart contracts, etc., Monero introduces Tari:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/8lgvw4/introducing_tari_a_decentralised_assets_protocol/


I hope, you, read my post, will see the transparent blockchains in the very, very different light that ever before.
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July 26, 2018, 11:58:58 AM
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  First XMR block found!!! Congratulations and Thankyou all!!

   https://xmr.minercountry.com/#pool_blocks

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July 26, 2018, 01:10:07 PM
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It's apparent XMR happens to be only thing here that suits anarcho-capitalist, so normally it draws people who have such inclination. I'd be surprised to see another thing. In fact, maybe it's even more extreme. I wouldn't dismiss even there have been not a big quantity of responders. Though I must say, I've a conservative inclination
I very confident with the future of XMR, for me this is one of the best coins. Monero is one of the last projects that is continuing the vision of decentralization.
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July 26, 2018, 08:15:59 PM
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GUI v0.12.3.0 (with direct Ledger support) released!

https://reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/925q5m/gui_v01230_with_direct_ledger_support_released/

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July 27, 2018, 09:02:54 AM
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the side chain transfers?  Seems like they are very close.  If you can transfer funds, files, etc and all the info is burnt ounce accepted, why would you need Verge, Monero, etc?

- I answer: side chains, lightning networks, etc. NEED YOU MUST TRUST to the side agents

Further more when you realise your money is gone in a side chain, what evidence do you have to show it? nothing if the info has all been "burnt" as you put it

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July 27, 2018, 11:47:35 AM
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Thanks for latest upgrade which has directly Ledger supports, and very detailed guides for upgrading wallets.
By the way, the historical price chart of XMR shows that the coin might bounce considerably back if it hits around $90.
Of course, I wish XMR will not drop deeply to that point. ^^
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/monero/

History tells me it will hit $500 again. Nothing has changed except TPTB taking profit from the scene, this will be replaced and all the caps of sound projects will return.
My guess is 1Q19.

Maybe you could give us a rundown of your crystal ball?

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