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Author Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency  (Read 4670918 times)
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May 27, 2014, 12:53:16 PM
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It's good to see QCN price lower than MRO.. Grin
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May 27, 2014, 12:59:29 PM
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It's good to see QCN price lower than MRO.. Grin

No no you have it all wrong. 

I want to see QCN around 0.008btc so all the miners bugger off and I get more MRO for my effort Cheesy

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May 27, 2014, 01:35:47 PM
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It's good to see QCN price lower than MRO.. Grin

No no you have it all wrong.  

I want to see QCN around 0.008btc so all the miners bugger off and I get more MRO for my effort Cheesy


When QCN is more profitable to mine, I mine QCN and flip it for MRO.  When MRO is more profitable, I just bank it.  My risk is higher by a linear factor, but my upside reward is compounded exponentially by the alignment of my interests with the coin.  This is a case where portfolio theory is wrong:  There is no efficient frontier.  In that case, you don't care who is leading in hash rate.  The more difference in profitability, the better your outcome.



Give a man a fish and he eats for a day.  Give a man a Poisson distribution and he eats at random times independent of one another, at a constant known rate.
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May 27, 2014, 01:44:28 PM
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Cryptocurrencies face a number of future problems, including but not limited to:

- transaction witholding attacks
- centralized distribution via lending of promisory notes (back to fiat)
- transaction fee escalations
- network centralization of wealth

These issues can all be solved or greatly mitigated with a reasonable, fixed inflation. There are no other solutions that I know of that are nearly as elegant.

I positively disbelieve that reasonable fixed inflation can solve any of these which are not solved by constant-reward inflation.

If there is discussion, I think it should be in the Monero Economy thread.

It is all too likely to devolve into a Keynesians vs Austrians imbroglio:  As humans, oftentimes our micro-issues reflect our strategies for rationalizing our macro-ideologies.

Give a man a fish and he eats for a day.  Give a man a Poisson distribution and he eats at random times independent of one another, at a constant known rate.
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May 27, 2014, 01:53:09 PM
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It's good to see QCN price lower than MRO.. Grin
No no you have it all wrong.  
I want to see QCN around 0.008btc so all the miners bugger off and I get more MRO for my effort Cheesy
When QCN is more profitable to mine, I mine QCN and flip it for MRO.  When MRO is more profitable, I just bank it.  My risk is higher by a linear factor, but my upside reward is compounded exponentially by the alignment of my interests with the coin.  This is a case where portfolio theory is wrong:  There is no efficient frontier.  In that case, you don't care who is leading in hash rate.  The more difference in profitability, the better your outcome.

I agree.
Everyone should mine QCN, dump it quick and buy MRO.
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May 27, 2014, 02:04:50 PM
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It's good to see QCN price lower than MRO.. Grin
No no you have it all wrong.  
I want to see QCN around 0.008btc so all the miners bugger off and I get more MRO for my effort Cheesy
When QCN is more profitable to mine, I mine QCN and flip it for MRO.  When MRO is more profitable, I just bank it.  My risk is higher by a linear factor, but my upside reward is compounded exponentially by the alignment of my interests with the coin.  This is a case where portfolio theory is wrong:  There is no efficient frontier.  In that case, you don't care who is leading in hash rate.  The more difference in profitability, the better your outcome.

I agree.
Everyone should mine QCN, dump it quick and buy MRO.


Better off putting that hashpower to good use on MRO's chain.
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May 27, 2014, 02:06:50 PM
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It's good to see QCN price lower than MRO.. Grin
No no you have it all wrong.  
I want to see QCN around 0.008btc so all the miners bugger off and I get more MRO for my effort Cheesy
When QCN is more profitable to mine, I mine QCN and flip it for MRO.  When MRO is more profitable, I just bank it.  My risk is higher by a linear factor, but my upside reward is compounded exponentially by the alignment of my interests with the coin.  This is a case where portfolio theory is wrong:  There is no efficient frontier.  In that case, you don't care who is leading in hash rate.  The more difference in profitability, the better your outcome.

I agree.
Everyone should mine QCN, dump it quick and buy MRO.


good idea,you are guys so smart
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May 27, 2014, 03:08:13 PM
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haha the devs team don't know how to make a GUI Huh it's a Joke?

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Who the hell will buy this coin?

You can dump or pump ... when i see this team of devs are not able to make a gui.. i will not buy that shit.

Learn to code, firstly.

Firstly there are plenty of GUI's in the pipeline

You can follow Bitkoot's progress on a .NET GUI wrapper here (Windows only):
https://github.com/BitKoot/CryptoNoteWallet

You can follow jwinterm's progress on a kivy GUI wrapper here (Windows, and probably Linux as well):
https://github.com/jwinterm/cryptonoteRPCwalletGUI

You can follow Neozaru's progress on a cross-platform Qt GUI wallet here:
https://github.com/Neozaru/bitmonero-qt

Secondly a GUI is not necessary in the slightest to the actual coin, working in command linke is simple to say the least. I understand the asking for a GUI wallet but unfortunately its not a copy paste coins with a QT to copy paste.

Perhaps your time would be better spent coding a GUI wallet yourself? I believe the bounty hasn't been taken yet.
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May 27, 2014, 03:21:12 PM
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haha the devs team don't know how to make a GUI Huh it's a Joke?

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Who the hell will buy this coin?

You can dump or pump ... when i see this team of devs are not able to make a gui.. i will not buy that shit.

Learn to code, firstly.

Bitcoind was released without GUI at first, so i guess Satoshi also don't know how to code  Cool

Im already working alot for my own apps and Monero its not my app.

But seriously, some peoples prefer darkcoin than monero, because of gui and accessibility.

Other Bitcoin clones have GUI just because they simply fork it from Bitcoin-Gt. CryptoNote is totally new code base, new technology so currently there is no official Qt client for it.
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May 27, 2014, 03:23:26 PM
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0.8.8 will probably be merged tomorrow, as it seems stable for everyone.

The userbase is also recommended to upgrade to it, it is listed as "experimental" on front page.

Some pool ops/miners have still not yet upgraded and are mining blocks with next to no reward. They should upgrade to my 0.8.8update branch on GitHub ASAP.

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May 27, 2014, 03:29:18 PM
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haha the devs team don't know how to make a GUI Huh it's a Joke?

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Who the hell will buy this coin?

You can dump or pump ... when i see this team of devs are not able to make a gui.. i will not buy that shit.

Learn to code, firstly.

Bitcoind was released without GUI at first, so i guess Satoshi also don't know how to code  Cool

Bitcoin was the first. Are you stupid? also Satoshi never paid anyone for a GUI.



It seems you forget a critical point that CryptoNote is a totally new code base, you can't just simply copy Bitcoin GUI client just like Darkcoin and other Bitcoin clones are doing.
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May 27, 2014, 03:37:10 PM
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It seems you forget a critical point that CryptoNote is a totally new code base, you can't just simply copy Bitcoin GUI client just like Darkcoin and other Bitcoin clones are doing.

:facepalm:

i'm a developer, what are you talking?
It seems you never developed something.

like i said

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The devs and community are waiting intentionally for make a true accessibility, because they want to mine a tons of this coin before anybody. Alot of peoples know it

You came here promoting Darkcoin and bashing Monero just because of the "GUI wallet". Darkcoin was also released without Qt at first. So what's your point ?
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May 27, 2014, 03:39:50 PM
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I have joined to minemro.com Tnx for new pool.

Minemro.com Tnx new pool is really nice
Come on do it brother
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May 27, 2014, 03:40:55 PM
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haha the devs team don't know how to make a GUI Huh it's a Joke?

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Who the hell will buy this coin?

You can dump or pump ... when i see this team of devs are not able to make a gui.. i will not buy that shit.

Learn to code, firstly.

Very naive post on you part.

Just look at MRO volume and amount of btc over last week and your question to who will buy makes no sense.

Other than that, nothing else in your post deserves response.






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May 27, 2014, 03:49:24 PM
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Clear indication that a crypto is going places when FUDDERS invade the thread out of fear. I can understand why Darkcoin investors might be afraid of Monero, but really, my advice is to just to join us. Monero has a long road ahead of it and the more people onboard the merrier.  Smiley
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May 27, 2014, 03:50:31 PM
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It seems you forget a critical point that CryptoNote is a totally new code base, you can't just simply copy Bitcoin GUI client just like Darkcoin and other Bitcoin clones are doing.

:facepalm:

i'm a developer, what are you talking?
It seems you never developed something.

like i said

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The devs and community are waiting intentionally for make a true accessibility, because they want to mine a tons of this coin before anybody. Alot of peoples know it

You came here promoting Darkcoin and bashing Monero just because of the "GUI wallet". Darkcoin was also released without Qt at first. So what's your point ?

You are talking bullshit Smiley because i was here the first day of darkcoin Wink

And i said i mine monero but this coin start badly.

I like how the non-coder peoples are trying to blame me xD

You are a liar.  darkcoin was launched without a qt wallet and was linux only.  That is facts.  darkcoin was also instamined because of supposedly difficulty issues.  There were 500 coin blocks every second for hours.

Monero launched as bitmonero was a fair launch.  It's just that nobody took it seriously because it was command line.  So the first people that started mining got coins.  Once people saw what the coin was then everyone started mining and difficulty went way up.  I was mining in beginning when difficulty was under 200000.  Lots of coins but everyone had a chance to see the ANN and start mining.






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May 27, 2014, 03:56:03 PM
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It seems you forget a critical point that CryptoNote is a totally new code base, you can't just simply copy Bitcoin GUI client just like Darkcoin and other Bitcoin clones are doing.

:facepalm:

i'm a developer, what are you talking?
It seems you never developed something.

like i said

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The devs and community are waiting intentionally for make a true accessibility, because they want to mine a tons of this coin before anybody. Alot of peoples know it

You came here promoting Darkcoin and bashing Monero just because of the "GUI wallet". Darkcoin was also released without Qt at first. So what's your point ?

You are talking bullshit Smiley because i was here the first day of darkcoin Wink

And i said i mine monero but this coin start badly.

I like how the non-coder peoples are trying to blame me xD

Keep trolling bro.
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May 27, 2014, 04:13:00 PM
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why, as soon as Dark fall in value in the subject monero there are many trollings?
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May 27, 2014, 04:37:32 PM
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Could the dev team here let us know what's needed to accelerate development of a user-friendly GUI wallet and easy exchange transfers - the absence of this is apparently hurting the coin.

It's technically superior to DRK and anyone else's anon tech - shame for something as minor as this to be holding it back.
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May 27, 2014, 04:39:52 PM
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You are talking bullshit Smiley because i was here the first day of darkcoin Wink
And i said i mine monero but this coin start badly.
I like how the non-coder peoples are trying to blame me xD

Haha Darkcoin has no code, it is a clone.
It is 100% marketing and spamming.

Once Darkcoin fall, it'll never recover.

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