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September 25, 2014, 09:59:08 PM |
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Make sure to file a report with the FTC. For those who lived on Mars, FTC recently closed down butterflylabs, and its CEO is most likely returning to jail. Butterfly labs was arguably less scammy than AMT. So file you complaint and ensure Josh and Sonny can share a cell ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . I agree. FTC as well as criminal actions as well considering the level fraud here as well.
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September 26, 2014, 02:45:53 AM |
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Hmmm, lets hope this guy gets what he deserves.
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September 26, 2014, 04:19:09 PM |
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Hmmm, lets hope this guy gets what he deserves.
One way or the other he will. I have no doubt.
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September 27, 2014, 01:56:12 PM |
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Make sure to file a report with the FTC. For those who lived on Mars, FTC recently closed down butterflylabs, and its CEO is most likely returning to jail. Butterfly labs was arguably less scammy than AMT. So file you complaint and ensure Josh, Josh and Sonny can share a cell ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . FTFY
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opieum2
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September 29, 2014, 01:30:51 PM |
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To reiterate, file a report with the FTC if you have not done so yet. It is important not to be ok with this money being lost. Even if you could afford to lose it. Its still money in Joshua Zipkins pocket that he essentially stole from you. Made promises of ROI via MPP and then screwed you of it. That should not go unpunished.
All said please contact the FTC if you have not done so. If you need help in drafting a proper complaint feel free to PM me. I have been in contact with a number of agencies to get something going against Joshua Zipkin. It seems like the ball is rolling.
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September 29, 2014, 04:01:18 PM |
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torrent link for AMT image. I am seeding it. It has a default IP of 192.168.0.245 OR 192.168.1.245 Either way its def one of those IPs. This is the original shipping image with the ONLY modification being the IP. http://goo.gl/L5DT1BThanks, I will give this a try. Burned this to a SD card and no go. It still does not connect to the network. How did you burn your image to a SD card?
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opieum2
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September 29, 2014, 04:24:41 PM |
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torrent link for AMT image. I am seeding it. It has a default IP of 192.168.0.245 OR 192.168.1.245 Either way its def one of those IPs. This is the original shipping image with the ONLY modification being the IP. http://goo.gl/L5DT1BThanks, I will give this a try. Burned this to a SD card and no go. It still does not connect to the network. How did you burn your image to a SD card? Use windisk imager 32. http://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager/This was a raw dump of the file. It will work just fine for you. It is how I created the image and backed it up to other SDcards, so I know it works.
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September 30, 2014, 02:38:11 PM |
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torrent link for AMT image. I am seeding it. It has a default IP of 192.168.0.245 OR 192.168.1.245 Either way its def one of those IPs. This is the original shipping image with the ONLY modification being the IP. http://goo.gl/L5DT1BThanks, I will give this a try. Burned this to a SD card and no go. It still does not connect to the network. How did you burn your image to a SD card? Use windisk imager 32. http://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager/This was a raw dump of the file. It will work just fine for you. It is how I created the image and backed it up to other SDcards, so I know it works. BTW, anyone know what kind of machine AMT shipped from china? Is this a Dragon Miner or something else?
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September 30, 2014, 02:44:09 PM |
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For all intents and purposes it is a dragon miner. The same company made them for AMT. So yea its a whitelabled Dragon miner. torrent link for AMT image. I am seeding it. It has a default IP of 192.168.0.245 OR 192.168.1.245 Either way its def one of those IPs. This is the original shipping image with the ONLY modification being the IP. http://goo.gl/L5DT1BThanks, I will give this a try. Burned this to a SD card and no go. It still does not connect to the network. How did you burn your image to a SD card? Use windisk imager 32. http://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager/This was a raw dump of the file. It will work just fine for you. It is how I created the image and backed it up to other SDcards, so I know it works. BTW, anyone know what kind of machine AMT shipped from china? Is this a Dragon Miner or something else?
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September 30, 2014, 03:05:24 PM |
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For all intents and purposes it is a dragon miner. The same company made them for AMT. So yea its a whitelabled Dragon miner. torrent link for AMT image. I am seeding it. It has a default IP of 192.168.0.245 OR 192.168.1.245 Either way its def one of those IPs. This is the original shipping image with the ONLY modification being the IP. http://goo.gl/L5DT1BThanks, I will give this a try. Burned this to a SD card and no go. It still does not connect to the network. How did you burn your image to a SD card? Use windisk imager 32. http://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager/This was a raw dump of the file. It will work just fine for you. It is how I created the image and backed it up to other SDcards, so I know it works. BTW, anyone know what kind of machine AMT shipped from china? Is this a Dragon Miner or something else? Yes, and it looks like they used old parts to put it together. My miner had no power supply (they did send me later) and it had 3 different brand fans which are very old and dirty. I am still trying to get back my $5100 from AMT since that miner lists for only $899.
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September 30, 2014, 03:06:41 PM |
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For all intents and purposes it is a dragon miner. The same company made them for AMT. So yea its a whitelabled Dragon miner. torrent link for AMT image. I am seeding it. It has a default IP of 192.168.0.245 OR 192.168.1.245 Either way its def one of those IPs. This is the original shipping image with the ONLY modification being the IP. http://goo.gl/L5DT1BThanks, I will give this a try. Burned this to a SD card and no go. It still does not connect to the network. How did you burn your image to a SD card? Use windisk imager 32. http://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager/This was a raw dump of the file. It will work just fine for you. It is how I created the image and backed it up to other SDcards, so I know it works. BTW, anyone know what kind of machine AMT shipped from china? Is this a Dragon Miner or something else? Yes, and it looks like they used old parts to put it together. My miner had no power supply (they did send me later) and it had 3 different brand fans which are very old and dirty. I am still trying to get back my $5100 from AMT since that miner lists for only $899. So are you saying that AMT bought up some used equipment from some chinese miner and shipped them to customers?
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September 30, 2014, 03:19:36 PM |
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I don't know exactly what they did, but surely the parts inside of the miners are used parts. They were dirty and also from different manufactures (the fans), also the fans were wired differently, even have different connectors. Some fans were 4 pin, others were 3 pins, one of the fans is much slower then the other 2.
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September 30, 2014, 04:03:52 PM |
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You havent seen AMT's new facilities in Shanghai yet ? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fshanghaiscrap.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F08%2FDSC03115.jpg&t=665&c=OJFF3er0XVDSpQ) Occasionally they find enough discarded dragonminer or btcgarden components in there to ship you a brand new $6000 miner!
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September 30, 2014, 04:08:47 PM |
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It seems pretty obvious they did. Did you get a unit? If not you have cause to report to the FTC. Hell even if you did you still have plenty of cause to go to them. For all intents and purposes it is a dragon miner. The same company made them for AMT. So yea its a whitelabled Dragon miner. torrent link for AMT image. I am seeding it. It has a default IP of 192.168.0.245 OR 192.168.1.245 Either way its def one of those IPs. This is the original shipping image with the ONLY modification being the IP. http://goo.gl/L5DT1BThanks, I will give this a try. Burned this to a SD card and no go. It still does not connect to the network. How did you burn your image to a SD card? Use windisk imager 32. http://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager/This was a raw dump of the file. It will work just fine for you. It is how I created the image and backed it up to other SDcards, so I know it works. BTW, anyone know what kind of machine AMT shipped from china? Is this a Dragon Miner or something else? Yes, and it looks like they used old parts to put it together. My miner had no power supply (they did send me later) and it had 3 different brand fans which are very old and dirty. I am still trying to get back my $5100 from AMT since that miner lists for only $899. So are you saying that AMT bought up some used equipment from some chinese miner and shipped them to customers?
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September 30, 2014, 04:12:36 PM |
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So are you saying that AMT bought up some used equipment from some chinese miner and shipped them to customers?
Only a thoroughy shameless scammer would do that. Why should one accuse AMT of doing it? That could be prosecuted as libel.
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September 30, 2014, 04:24:41 PM |
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Considering all their other antics......yea shameless is what I would call this. So are you saying that AMT bought up some used equipment from some chinese miner and shipped them to customers?
Only a thoroughy shameless scammer would do that. Why should one accuse AMT of doing it? That could be prosecuted as libel.
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September 30, 2014, 04:27:08 PM |
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I sould have used a " ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ", but the libel part is no joke...
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October 01, 2014, 02:51:21 PM Last edit: October 01, 2014, 03:11:05 PM by mrpark |
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A few more things I should point out about the used fans. The fan with the 3 pin connector actually had a wire cut, the other two fans are 4 pin. I am not sure why the one was cut, but maybe so it could reach the board where it was plugged in. In addition, there is no place to put a 3 pin fan, they plugged it into a 4pin port. This is also not correct as that 3 pin fan spins much slower with the wire cut. This is really a hot mess, and they should not be allowed to continue to take people's money. So, not only do the fans not match, the pinout and wires on the fans are also different. Very unprofessional.
I wrote this letter to them today, I know they will not do anything about it. Pleas someone help us out...
AMT:
I wanted to let you know that the miner you send me is in fact an old used miner, there are used parts inside and I have proof. There were 3 different brands of fans, one with the wire cut. The one with the wire cut is much slower, it has a 3 pin connector on it. The fans were extremely dirty with soot on them because they are used parts. Also, the cards and the case was dirty as well. The miner also does not work, it only hashes at about 900Gh/s and a cheap Chinese knock off miner it NOT what I ordered. I see you have money to build a website, but not to return my funds. I would like a refund ASAP in BTC or cash.
Please advise,
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October 01, 2014, 03:58:11 PM |
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If I had to guess, Amanda (last name Hugnkiss?) will be replying to you. Josh won't put his name on anything because he knows he is on everyone's shitlist. A few more things I should point out about the used fans. The fan with the 3 pin connector actually had a wire cut, the other two fans are 4 pin. I am not sure why the one was cut, but maybe so it could reach the board where it was plugged in. In addition, there is no place to put a 3 pin fan, they plugged it into a 4pin port. This is also not correct as that 3 pin fan spins much slower with the wire cut. This is really a hot mess, and they should not be allowed to continue to take people's money. So, not only do the fans not match, the pinout and wires on the fans are also different. Very unprofessional.
I wrote this letter to them today, I know they will not do anything about it. Pleas someone help us out...
AMT:
I wanted to let you know that the miner you send me is in fact an old used miner, there are used parts inside and I have proof. There were 3 different brands of fans, one with the wire cut. The one with the wire cut is much slower, it has a 3 pin connector on it. The fans were extremely dirty with soot on them because they are used parts. Also, the cards and the case was dirty as well. The miner also does not work, it only hashes at about 900Gh/s and a cheap Chinese knock off miner it NOT what I ordered. I see you have money to build a website, but not to return my funds. I would like a refund ASAP in BTC or cash.
Please advise,
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