[ANN][CFC2]Coffeecoin | This coin is under the RevivalCoinGroup management

[Alex.hdtv]

Ohhh, wallet in Bittrex closed, who know when it will available again?

Really? That's a sad news.

Just found it today.

[lordoliver]

What other questions have remained unheard by me?  

Who created your new client for a start?

I have already answered this question  

Crypto 101 DO NOT download any clients from an unofficial github.

Also Matory refuses to answer even the most basic questions from various members of the Coffeecoin community I suggest do not download his client.

What other questions have remained unheard by me?  

Orangecoindev, who written new wallet in june, currently unavailable, if any know where is now - please connect with him.
You're all just wasting time, those who call themselves "community" do nothing to change the situation - fix problems and evolve.
And i want to know the opinion of holders who have >500,000 CFC2, if they don't  care about the fate of their coins - I will try to understand they position.  
I am also a member of the CFC2 community like you all and ignore me is wrong.

I am guessing I'd be the largest single holder (from the richlist higher ones are the exchange), and I'm not buying into your plan. From my talks to bittrex (whom you haven't contacted). don't think they are keen on following your idea either.

You've showed no signs of working with this community and just want to take over and run this show like some centralised authority, thats the carp that kills coins.

No matter have your play, tis a free world, I'll continue on the communities plan on the client pre your distraction.

Centralised?   Leave these conversations yourself. The lack of any authorities resulted - in five days not worked explorer, wallets and miners were themselves, closed the deposit/withdrawal on Bittrex (two weeks is still not working).
Your free world and community - nobody did anything!
Ask for your solutions (working wallet, nice OP, trade in other exchanges) - and if they will like to me and will contribute to the development - I will receive them immediately.

Once I lost CFC in Sharex, not got them back. I don't want to lose again.
I don't understand, please explain me! If I hold the CFC2 that are part of the community or this "community", of which you speak, is not for everyone?  

ok, I also want to ask a question. Who hacked coffeecoins account. Where is coffeecoin?
He was somehow promising, to stay with this coin and now he is gone?
The interesting part is, that at the same time coffeecoins account was hacked, you are trying to offer a new client _AND_ the OP-Post was edited, by whom?

Don't understand me wrong, I appreciate any efforts, to push this coin, as I am holding a ... not very small amount. (maybe even higher then kelseys)
But you have to understand, that we have to be alarmed...
Try to get in touch with the person, that has access to the original repository and we will follow you!

[kelsey]

What other questions have remained unheard by me?  

Who created your new client for a start?

I have already answered this question  

Crypto 101 DO NOT download any clients from an unofficial github.

Also Matory refuses to answer even the most basic questions from various members of the Coffeecoin community I suggest do not download his client.

What other questions have remained unheard by me?  

Orangecoindev, who written new wallet in june, currently unavailable, if any know where is now - please connect with him.
You're all just wasting time, those who call themselves "community" do nothing to change the situation - fix problems and evolve.
And i want to know the opinion of holders who have >500,000 CFC2, if they don't  care about the fate of their coins - I will try to understand they position.  
I am also a member of the CFC2 community like you all and ignore me is wrong.

I am guessing I'd be the largest single holder (from the richlist higher ones are the exchange), and I'm not buying into your plan. From my talks to bittrex (whom you haven't contacted). don't think they are keen on following your idea either.

You've showed no signs of working with this community and just want to take over and run this show like some centralised authority, thats the carp that kills coins.

No matter have your play, tis a free world, I'll continue on the communities plan on the client pre your distraction.

Centralised?   Leave these conversations yourself. The lack of any authorities resulted - in five days not worked explorer, wallets and miners were themselves, closed the deposit/withdrawal on Bittrex (two weeks is still not working).
Your free world and community - nobody did anything!
Ask for your solutions (working wallet, nice OP, trade in other exchanges) - and if they will like to me and will contribute to the development - I will receive them immediately.

Once I lost CFC in Sharex, not got them back. I don't want to lose again.
I don't understand, please explain me! If I hold the CFC2 that are part of the community or this "community", of which you speak, is not for everyone? 

Why spend every reply simply getting defensive while avoiding perfectly reasonable questions? Again it doesn't seem like you're working at all with any of the coffeecoin community just taking it on yourself to takeover and be a dictator.

You're saying nobody did anything while actually not even doing the basic asking of what the community was doing before you've take it on yourself to takeover.

[Matory]

ok, I also want to ask a question. Who hacked coffeecoins account. Where is coffeecoin?
He was somehow promising, to stay with this coin and now he is gone?
The interesting part is, that at the same time coffeecoins account was hacked, you are trying to offer a new client _AND_ the OP-Post was edited, by whom?

Don't understand me wrong, I appreciate any efforts, to push this coin, as I am holding a ... not very small amount. (maybe even higher then kelseys)
But you have to understand, that we have to be alarmed...
Try to get in touch with the person, that has access to the original repository and we will follow you!

coffeecoin account was hacked?   When?? It's news for me!
I talked with him about help in the management of CFC2 and he agreed. Then we did redesign content and he edited OP. At least two days ago I was speaking with him. All funds still have it and all the promises he's going to do with my help.
Need to tell him to change the password again! And it may be worth it to change the passwords for all of us for security purposes.  

Access to original repository have only orangecoindev, he not responded now and we forced move the github thread to be able to edit changes.

[kelsey]

Sorry Testing Crypto no disrespect but all the information you've given I already know (being a coffeecoinguild member myself before Matory arrived on the scene), all the edits to the pages whether it  be in this OP thread or coffeecoinguild don't really back much up as its all controlled now by Matory.

And my argument from the start has been all things have been decided by pm before anything was discussed with the entire community.

No ones ever stated who build the new client, and it wasn't the person Matory eluded to me it was (alarm bells ringing right there), Its a new github before even being explained.

I'm as a holder not accepting  "This coin is under the RevivalCoinGroup management" I'm staying on the old client until such times as its repaired properly (something I may personally undertake if no one else steps upto the mark within the next month) as I have plans for promoting coffeecoin (plans set in place prior to cfc2 being created).


You, matory, or whoever else is free to do whatever they chose thats the beauty of an open source communities. I do not like central authorities in cryptos who "takeover".
I like open source communities that all work openly together, which is not the approach taken so far by this RevivalCoinGroup management.

[lordoliver]

ok, I also want to ask a question. Who hacked coffeecoins account. Where is coffeecoin?
He was somehow promising, to stay with this coin and now he is gone?
The interesting part is, that at the same time coffeecoins account was hacked, you are trying to offer a new client _AND_ the OP-Post was edited, by whom?

Don't understand me wrong, I appreciate any efforts, to push this coin, as I am holding a ... not very small amount. (maybe even higher then kelseys)
But you have to understand, that we have to be alarmed...
Try to get in touch with the person, that has access to the original repository and we will follow you!

coffeecoin account was hacked?   When?? It's news for me!
I talked with him about help in the management of CFC2 and he agreed. Then we did redesign content and he edited OP. At least two days ago I was speaking with him. All funds still have it and all the promises he's going to do with my help.
Need to tell him to change the password again! And it may be worth it to change the passwords for all of us for security purposes.  

Access to original repository have only orangecoindev, he not responded now and we forced move the github thread to be able to edit changes.

to whom did you talk? but maybe it was only a similar spelled account?

Hey folks be aware of the account coffeecoin!!!

I got a personal message with a fishing link, just to warn you all, don't trust this account anymore
(i don't know the history of the account nor i am interested in anything related to him).

Have a nice day

[Matory]

Sorry for delay, hard work and 5 hours sleep.

to whom did you talk? but maybe it was only a similar spelled account?

It was coffeecoin, I talked with him before,   when he made swap to CFC2, also user testcoin just know him.

... I do not like central authorities in cryptos who "takeover".
...

"management" not equal "authorities"
I don't like centralized too, but even more don't like negligence. And if you not present solutions - be ready for the possibility that they may present other.


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How you can see in https://chainz.cryptoid.info/cfc2/ POS blocks are more and more, but not enough to all functional existence without POW Only half in network are v2.0.2.0 (they participate in the POS generation), where POW must be ended in 380,000.
Community inaction will leave aside, everyone decides for himself.
I had time to think, and now came to the conclusion that two things wrong:

- we do not refuse to POW at all until POS will work perfectly and community will find the strength to be updated.

- we must decrease POW block reward! Maybe to 1 (one) CFC2 per block.

Now we are getting closer to exceed a reasonable number CFC2 coins, in three months we grew up on a lot - 38% or 154% annually!  
This kill coffeecoin idea and  devalues coin price.

I propose to release new update :
-decrease reward to 1 CFC2/block
-continue POW
-update POS fix
-fix "311293 problem" to Bittrex could be updated and open a Deposit/Withdrawal.

(After 311293 block not  fork - quite reload blockchain)

[lordoliver]

-decrease reward to 1 CFC2/block
-continue POW
-update POS fix
-fix "311293 problem" to Bittrex could be updated and open a Deposit/Withdrawal.

+1
kelsey should be also satisfied, as it is a suggestion and a question before you actually do ;-)
so is there anyone against this proposal?

[Alex.hdtv]

I am totally agreed too. When new update will become?

[Matory]

I am totally agreed too. When new update will become?

-decrease reward to 1 CFC2/block
-continue POW
-update POS fix
-fix "311293 problem" to Bittrex could be updated and open a Deposit/Withdrawal.

+1
kelsey should be also satisfied, as it is a suggestion and a question before you actually do ;-)
so is there anyone against this proposal?

Wait until kelsey will agree  I need 1 or 2 days, then.

[Samai]

I had time to think, and now came to the conclusion that two things wrong:

- we do not refuse to POW at all until POS will work perfectly and community will find the strength to be updated.

- we must decrease POW block reward! Maybe to 1 (one) CFC2 per block.

Now we are getting closer to exceed a reasonable number CFC2 coins, in three months we grew up on a lot - 38% or 154% annually!  
This kill coffeecoin idea and  devalues coin price.

I propose to release new update :
-decrease reward to 1 CFC2/block
-continue POW
-update POS fix
-fix "311293 problem" to Bittrex could be updated and open a Deposit/Withdrawal.

(After 311293 block not  fork - quite reload blockchain)

this plan suits me. My wallet is 2.0.2 version, may be turn it off after 380000 block, it coming soon, to estimates in next day. I hope coins I sent to Bittrex will be back after update. 

[Matory]

I had time to think, and now came to the conclusion that two things wrong:

- we do not refuse to POW at all until POS will work perfectly and community will find the strength to be updated.

- we must decrease POW block reward! Maybe to 1 (one) CFC2 per block.

Now we are getting closer to exceed a reasonable number CFC2 coins, in three months we grew up on a lot - 38% or 154% annually!  
This kill coffeecoin idea and  devalues coin price.

I propose to release new update :
-decrease reward to 1 CFC2/block
-continue POW
-update POS fix
-fix "311293 problem" to Bittrex could be updated and open a Deposit/Withdrawal.

(After 311293 block not  fork - quite reload blockchain)

this plan suits me. My wallet is 2.0.2 version, may be turn it off after 380000 block, it coming soon, to estimates in next day. I hope coins I sent to Bittrex will be back after update. 

Maybe today will be update. Off wallet if not sync after 380,000
Your CFC2 in Bittrex not lost, but must wait. 

[kelsey]

I am totally agreed too. When new update will become?

-decrease reward to 1 CFC2/block
-continue POW
-update POS fix
-fix "311293 problem" to Bittrex could be updated and open a Deposit/Withdrawal.

+1
kelsey should be also satisfied, as it is a suggestion and a question before you actually do ;-)
so is there anyone against this proposal?

Wait until kelsey will agree  I need 1 or 2 days, then.

Sorry if I don't get back often atm, holiday traveling across (often rural) China (so internet on and off).
No complaint with Matory's new proposal, I'll agree with what the community agrees on.

[testcoin]

-decrease reward to 1 CFC2/block
-continue POW
-update POS fix
-fix "311293 problem" to Bittrex could be updated and open a Deposit/Withdrawal.

+1
kelsey should be also satisfied, as it is a suggestion and a question before you actually do ;-)
so is there anyone against this proposal?

@Matory

No offense but I have to say I vote against lowering POW block rewards significantly to scare away miners, since it will just leave a security flaw to allow hackers exploiting 51% attacks easily. If you do this the network won’t be secure. Better to re-think about how to shift it to a pure POS.

Besides, before you can guarantee the community they won’t possibly lose their Bittrex funds, you better update checkpoints to ensure those funds are safe. Too bad from your checkpoints.cpp file you obviously haven’t done it. You will need to contact Bittrex (and Bleutrade) first to check for their block hashes.

Up to this post we still have no information who is the coder behind. Why don’t you just bring the coder to this thread so we can all know who he is?

[nxtonly]

Nice coin. I still hold it.

[Matory]

Members who have peers in
-188.165.2.147  block 311298
-62.210.113.162 block 311341
please rescan CFC2 blockchain or turn off your wallets.
Thanks!

v2.0.3.0 copmlete.

[madmartyk]

Members who have peers in
-188.165.2.147  block 311298
-62.210.113.162 block 311341
please rescan CFC2 blockchain or turn off your wallets.
Thanks!

Is there a new QT.EXE?

v2.0.3.0 copmlete.

[Matory]

Members who have peers in
-188.165.2.147  block 311298
-62.210.113.162 block 311341
please rescan CFC2 blockchain or turn off your wallets.
Thanks!

v2.0.3.0 copmlete.

Is there a new QT.EXE?

Yes and now in test mode.

[madmartyk]

Cool!!  Can't wait!!

[Matory]

@Matory

No offense but I have to say I vote against lowering POW block rewards significantly to scare away miners, since it will just leave a security flaw to allow hackers exploiting 51% attacks easily. If you do this the network won’t be secure. Better to re-think about how to shift it to a pure POS.

Besides, before you can guarantee the community they won’t possibly lose their Bittrex funds, you better update checkpoints to ensure those funds are safe. Too bad from your checkpoints.cpp file you obviously haven’t done it. You will need to contact Bittrex (and Bleutrade) first to check for their block hashes.

Up to this post we still have no information who is the coder behind. Why don’t you just bring the coder to this thread so we can all know who he is?

v2.0.2 worked good in POS, we are forced to reduce reward block because community did not update in time, only 7 wallets from 22 worked well. We can't abandon the entire POW now, not worry about 51% attack, i create and keep hashrate all time until POS will work perfectly.

It's three coders research CFC2 source, two fixed POS and delete some wrong code, MrData build win wallet, I mentioned his past posts.
Version 2.0.3 ready and work in network https://chainz.cryptoid.info/cfc2/#!network but we must to completely switch ALL 1.0.1 wallets! I contacted with fairglu and we try update explorer before other members change wallet version.
Also, i ready to compensate mining time, f.e. to address CZNpa19JzYK9kQ5GCUZs1DzxAG6DLyD5Dg, from my private CFC2 fund if owner of this address change him wallet asap.