[announce] Namecoin - a distributed naming system based on Bitcoin

[cyberterrorist]

Love how much time you just wasted there to not change my descisions whatsoever.

Exposing con artists like you and Daniel Kraft, is not a waste of time.


When did you buy Namecoin?
I'm looking at the market, and you didn't even make a sound; my fart produces more spikes on the chart than you. 

BayAreaCoins' swap have for you 150 Namecoin, go and get them quick: https://altquick.com/swap/

[realdantreccia]

Love how much time you just wasted there to not change my descisions whatsoever.

Exposing con artists like you and Daniel Kraft, is not a waste of time.


When did you buy Namecoin?
I'm looking at the market, and you didn't even make a sound; my fart produces more spikes on the chart than you. 

BayAreaCoins' swap have for you 150 Namecoin, go and get them quick: https://altquick.com/swap/

Ah yes, can't hear my voice yet. Well that's original.

It's funny how little I care about your game. I don't have to acknowledge you but I do. If I didn't give a response, it'd be hard to prove I care about the concerns of others - despite them having whatever opinions they have about me. On top of that though, don't confuse my lack of an emotional reaction with getting a "rise" out of me. I remain undeterred from how I currently view the state of this particular project - as a part of many other braided (intertwined) activities.

The truth is, I exist. It's hard to influence someone in my position - I am perfectly comfortable being the first-last man standing if the situation has been examined from every different angle possible with the condition, and here's the kicker, I could be wrong because of the sheer complexity of the universe and the limits of humankind.

But go ahead "cyberterrorist" -- also try and shake me with you little harassments, it's amusing. Pollute my name, blah blah.

You cannot change my purpose. You cannot shame me with money, (who would ever think I'd never need any ...) - you despise me? That's cool. I blame that on your ignorance.

It's funny you pretend charts are important. It's what you are not aggregating that has the most value of all. My voice and my transactions are not on your charts. I think that's just a narrative to go along with your feeble and primitive accounting. I'm pretty good at accounting myself. If you ever need help, just ask. No need to be a cybertwerp. Please though, keep going. I would love to laugh at your attempts to sway me or get me to fight for my reputation on the bitcointalk forums.

[NexusFlavor]

Squatters happen everywhere, who cares?  There is nothing stopping websites from being developed on .bit

The closer and more integrated JR and the Namecoin Devs get to integrating .bit into web browsers the more the trolls come out in deep fear!  (The namecoin Core integration has come a LONG way the last 2 years)

I am sure "Cyberterrorist" takes orders from his FBI handlers who in turn work for Goldman Sachs and Blackrock


I am not sure what they fear most that Namecoin will help Bitcoin mining or if they really fear .bit domain websites?



If the FBI spends so much time as the Twitter Files reveal, them sending some dumbass with the name "cyberterrorist" isn't outside their work history!

[cyberterrorist]

Squatters happen everywhere, who cares?  There is nothing stopping websites from being developed on .bit

The .bit TLD is not associated with Namecoin!  I'm not sure how many times I have to repeat myself.

You have been misled into believing that Namecoin is a coin that grants you a .bit domain, which is not the case.
You can register .bit domains in other Namespaces or register a completely new TLD, such as .talk in the talk/ Namespace.
You are not required to use d/ simply because some con artist tells you to.

The .bit TLD is proposed by a completely separate project known as the "DOT-BIT Project," which used Namecoin.
Claiming that Namecoin is the "DOT-BIT Project" is absurd and severely harms Namecoin's reputation.

The closer and more integrated JR and the Namecoin Devs get to integrating .bit into web browsers the more the trolls come out in deep fear!  (The namecoin Core integration has come a LONG way the last 2 years)

Jeremy Rand is not a Namecoin developer!  Namecoin hasn't even been developed since Vince announced it in this thread.
There are projects that use Namecoin, but it is critical that everyone understands that each of those projects is entirely independent of Namecoin.
Daniel Kraft occasionally merges from upstream Bitcoin, and that's all, purely maintainer work.


Your assertion that web browsers will incorporate the .bit TLD is incorrect and extremely dangerous.  Web browsers integrate the Namespace rather than the TLD.

If a browser looked up the value first, rather than the Namespace, there would be complete chaos, with websites being hijacked in seconds.

There have been attempts to hard code the d/ Namespace into Tor Browser, but the Tor Project will never approve what Jeremy Rand desires.  I will make certain that such a feature is never implemented in Tor Browser.  It is Jeremy Rand's personal project that only serves his own interests, much of which are purely financial, charlatan, such as Daniel Kraft, who uses Namecoin to promote his for-profit companies with which he launders money in Malta.

[ToxicDartFrog]

I will make certain that such a feature is never implemented in Tor Browser.

lmao I'm sure you're so important that if anyone can stop this it's you!

On a more serious note, I'm finding it weird there would be people so obsessed with attacking this coin. AFAIK there aren't any exchanges were you can short it. Maybe a rival project scared of what would happen if this coin actually does get browser implementation? There's obviously some kind of motivation to spend time writing these posts otherwise it's just as easy to ignore the thread and not draw attention to the project. :thinking:

That said, the idea of browser implementation has been floated around for like 10 years now with not a whole lot to show for it. I can understand long time supporters being frustrated but it's kinda weird there are people who seem genuinely upset that the possibility it happens still exists?? lol?

Full disclosure: I'm just a long time holder from like 50 cents back in the old BTC-e days and sell some whenever price wicks up then accumulate more. I'm mostly involved in trading other coins and don't really care what happens cuz the risk reward is too good given such a small market cap and what would happen if some _real_ good news were to break. If the coin goes to 0 won't be a big enough loss for me to care that much (in some ways would be nice to have the closure) but on that small chance the project really does pull through it's going to be so worth the wait.

[BayAreaCoins]

BayAreaCoins' swap have for you 150 Namecoin, go and get them quick: https://altquick.com/swap/

Someone sold a whole 14 NMC too today on swap today.

I'm adding to NMC's main AltQuick markets liquidity, slowly but surely.

Anyone can place an order for any amount they want for your Namecoin.  We need more market makers.

[cornhodlr]

Can any namecoiner tell me what is the safest exact place to download electrum wallet please?TIA

[nutildah]

A lot of deleted posts, a few edited posts, a ban, wow this thread certainly attracts a lot of drama.

Nope, without convincing proof that satoshi is vinced, he did not.

He simply chimed in his thoughts in an ongoing discussion about BitDNS, which preceded and is entirely separate from Namecoin.

You shouldn't assume I didn't see your FUD a few weeks ago, but everyone embarrasses themselves as best they can! All I can say in response is that you haven't contributed anything to the Namecoin project so far - other than sending merits here and spreading FUD. So on topic, Satoshi is not vinced. Before you keep spreading FUD, you should start reading at the initial post of this thread: Namecoin is a naming system based on bitcoin with a few modifications.  It is inspired by the bitdns discussion. Namecoin wasn't created out of thin air, and undoubtedly Satoshi's contributions were the most important, as cited especially with regard to the proposal of merged mining.

This was the comment I was referring to in the above quote:

But every BitcoinTalk member should know that even Satoshi Nakamoto contributed on this project

This is factually incorrect and its not "FUD" to call it out as such. Satoshi was gone from the public eye before Namecoin was released. There is no record of him lending a hand in the building of the Namecoin software, other than he created the software from which NMC was forked. Because he floated a few substantial ideas in the BitDNS thread it does not mean he "contributed on" Namecoin. He contributed ideas to BitDNS -- no programming or development.

This line is just used by some of the more dishonest peddlers of re-registered NMC assets as "Historical NFTs" to pump their bags. Dunno why Trade Runner deleted all his posts, but anyway, it is worth clarifying for the record.

Also for the record I think the old domains and names are kind of cool. I liken it to "would you want to re-register askjeeves.com if given the chance?" Sure, it would be fun to own as a historical collectible. It has an interesting story behind it and collector value. They are cool in their own right; no need to artificially inflate their significance with some verbal slight-of-hand.

Alright I guess that wraps er up for now, see you all in a year or so

[d5000]

A question: Was Taproot activated in Namecoin?

The reason I ask is because in theory Namecoin would be the ideal place for the Ordinals project and above all their Inscription feature ("save art on the blockchain"). It's a chain which always was linked to unique things (names, identities, domains ...) and thus the NFT concept would be a good fit, or not? Ordinals would need Taproot to work, although a similar feature could perhaps be built with OP_RETURN if the limit isn't too low on NMC.

[domob]

A question: Was Taproot activated in Namecoin?

The reason I ask is because in theory Namecoin would be the ideal place for the Ordinals project and above all their Inscription feature ("save art on the blockchain"). It's a chain which always was linked to unique things (names, identities, domains ...) and thus the NFT concept would be a good fit, or not? Ordinals would need Taproot to work, although a similar feature could perhaps be built with OP_RETURN if the limit isn't too low on NMC.

It is not, but I think there are no important objections.  It just needs to be scheduled and coordinated with miners.  (And due to a conflict with merge mining, versionbits is not working on Namecoin (yet), so the activation code itself would have to be modified to be based on a block height or timestamp, but that is of course not a big issue.)  I expect that it will be activated sooner or later, just like Segwit was.

Your point about ordinals is a very interesting one.

[d5000]

Thank you for your answer! I would love to see progress on this (I'm not part of the Ordinals project, and see some parts of it skeptically, at last on Bitcoin, but it is interesting).

Of course one can't predict if a relocation of Ordinals to Namecoin would have the desired success, as NFTs' value proposition has much to do with things like "prestige", and thus a NFT on the "OG Bitcoin" blockchain (as I've read it) may definitively push the value of some of these "digital artifacts" a bit. But maybe it's worth a try. Of course, other bitcoin-style blockchains like GRS (where Taproot, afaik, is already activated) can also be used, but I see a better fit for NMC due to it having been developed specifically for non-financial purposes, because Namecoin names have already had some exposition in the NFT "scene", and because it's merged-mined with BTC and so it could be viewed as an "extension chain" of "OG Bitcoin".

[PrimeHunter2023]

A general suggestion for Namecoin.

Create three hardforks which can all use the same wallet if a person has all three blockchains.

Fork 1 Classic Namecioin.
No different than the current one except it has a button that says "clone/fork" and when you press it there is a pop up that says "Would you like to create a clone with a new genesis block, or fork at a certain block?"

Fork 2 New Namecoin
A fork of classic with all existing coins reduced by one or two decimal points, and an increasing emission curve which would solve the massive problem 'satoshi' created without confusing everybody the way freicoin did.

Namecoin's distribution is not as bad as bitcoin or ethereum but because there are large holders in Eastern Europe, a decimal point shift would reduce the pressure put by the U.S. on exchanges to not list Namecoin.

Fork 3 Fair Namecoin
New genesis block but with an updated emission curve to create a fair economy.
Start with a 1 million coin donation to a charity to create an initial supply for traders. Make sure the trading algorithm the charity uses is fully public, like place 10k coins at every integer fraction, and when a lot sells place a buy order at 70% of that level with 95% of the money and use the remaining 5% to feed elephants.

This thread is largely populated with clever saboteurs, but Namecoin could be an important coin if it were made practical and useful.

Most of the commenting on the thread is stupidity. For example the whole profit aspect of coins is that you buy coins and squat on them until you can sell them for a profit. Coin squatting, keeping coins without trying to use them, is the toxicity of coin economies. Squatting on .bit names is quite a bit riskier but if somebody can do it profitably they are smarter than a coin squatter.

Traderunner and others who actually try to do something, whether or not you like their subproject, are ultimately driven away by the morons who appear to be trying to sabotage the coin.

edit
On chain arbitrage between the three chains would let people diversify, and if 10% of the 1 million charity coins were used to create a permanent arbitrage market between the coins, at a very high price initially then slowly declining, it would create a solid floor* in the price of all three forks if the charity traders placed buy orders at the right levels.
*Floor vs whatever outside currency is used on an exchange, and floor for the charity fork vs the other two forks.

Also Satoshi was at least one of the top ten people involved in the process of creating Namecoin.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=6197.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2072.0

It's completely meaningless except that the celebrity factor is 99% of the value of a lot of coins, and Namecoin is the only coin aside from bitcoin that has that celebrity endorsement.

[BayAreaCoins]

Traderunner and others who actually try to do something, whether or not you like their subproject, are ultimately driven away by the morons who appear to be trying to sabotage the coin.

Um, what has TradeRunner done or what service has he provided?

[ToxicDartFrog]

This thread is largely populated with clever saboteurs

Says the person suggesting a 3-way fork

[omarabid]

It is not, but I think there are no important objections.

Daniel Kraft, what the fuck is this supposed to mean?


All objections are significant, especially given that you and Jeremy Rand control the namecoin.org domain as well as the GitHub repository where you are both happy censoring "objections" using the Namecoin username.


They claim to be advocates for "free speech," but they completely delete objections, ban users, and so on.

Daniel Kraft and Jeremy Rand's mere existence is an insult to our intelligence!

We need to get rid of these rotten apples and start working on Namecoin without these scumbags!

They just merging from upstream Bitcoin Core some improvements into Namecoin "Core" and pretending to be "Namecoin developers".

They are scam artists and criminals who beg for money under the guise of working on Namecoin.

Daniel Kraft, you should focus on Xaya and ignore the Namecoin community because you and Jeremy Rand bring nothing but toxicity here.


Speaking of namecoin.org, it is hosted in Europe's sole dictatorship, Hungary.

Code:

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;namecoin.org.			IN	A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
namecoin.org.		3600	IN	A	91.219.237.223

Code:

{
  "ip": "91.219.237.223",
  "hostname": "sa1541.serverastra.com",
  "city": "Budapest",
  "region": "Budapest",
  "country": "HU",
  "loc": "47.4984,19.0404",
  "org": "AS56322 ServerAstra Kft.",
  "postal": "1066",
  "timezone": "Europe/Budapest",
}

It is appears that Jeremy Rand in fact working with Eastern European secret services, he does operating "DNS seeds" in Slovakia as well which he and Daniel Kraft hard coded into Namecoin "Core".

Hungary has been ruled by a fascist dictator, Viktor Orban, for well over a decade, with secret services kidnapping people from their homes, foreign organizations effectively banned, media completely censored if not dissolved by the government, and the country well-known for torturing and brutally beating refugees, women, men, children, and the elderly, among other things.  Not to mention the electrified 520+ km long NATO razor fences along the southern border.

At this point, I propose that namecoin.org be shut down and the GitHub repository archived so that others can work on Namecoin without being centralized and controlled by idiots who host the website in a fascist dictatorship in Hungary and the DNS seeds in Slovakia, which intentionally sends fighter jets to neo-nazis in Ukraine to start a third world war.

I demand that namecoin.org be shut down, as well as the Twitter channel @namecoin, which should be deleted along with all tweets, and that the GitHub repository be closed as archived, and that Jeremy Rand and Daniel Kraft stop begging for money while censoring, defaming, doxxing, and threatening Namecoin users, as well as leaking information to Eastern European secret services about the users.

[moderator's note: consecutive posts merged]

Why are you even expanding the efforts?

[omarabid]

On another note, who is interested to get NFT running on Namecoin?

[BayAreaCoins]

On another note, who is interested to get NFT running on Namecoin?

God, please no. lol

<trash>

If it's funded by any secret service... wouldn't they be pretty flush with funds. 

We could use some secret service liquidity on our namecoin exchange: https://altquick.com/market/Namecoin

I've been sold out on Namecoins for a while now.  People can basically sell for what they want to at the moment (well, offer to sell.)

[BayAreaCoins]

You should learn English BayAreaCoins because you either misread or don't understand the language.  You should read everything twice before speaking.  

You're probably right.

On the other hand, I'm the only one who uses your exchange, so please stop spamming in this topic.  Almost every one of your comments contains a spam link.

Uh ya, I'm a spammer big dog... <3 Get rich or die spamming!  jk, I'm just trying my little heart out to have more Namecoins to sell to folks.  People keep buying them when they are offered.  I feel like I owe it to our buyer to try to bring in more coins for sale.

You filth.  

I identify as greasy <3

[1ad]

NMC got listed on Knolix Crypto Auction

https://knolix.com/crypto-auction

Have fun

[Eddyc]

https://www.publish0x.com/crypto-bits/namecoinnmc-choices-that-changed-the-present-and-the-future-xzgmzxw


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