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September 07, 2014, 10:10:43 PM
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Few questions I would like to put forward to James.

So can anybody create services on the SuperNet or are we stuck with just these ones Teleport, InstantDEX, Tradebots (NXTcoinsco), Privatebetwill.

Also where do the fees paid for these services go, is it like Bitshares where the people who own the shares get a dividend. Is there a limit on the dividend also?
All the coins in the core will add some few new SuperNET API functions
I have describe the tech somewhere, but I cant remember where
basically the API is using JSON string, so if a command can be encoded in a JSON string, the SuperNET is able to send this from any computer in the SuperNET to any other, jumping across coin networks, with optional randomized onion routing built in.
there is also M of N (254) shared secret fragmenting (similar to multisig), but this is not inside the SuperNET, but rather in the Teleport application layer. If needed this tech can easily be used by any application layer

There is a Turing complete language called "C"
this is interpreted and runs in an event driven environment (similar to Metatrader expert advisers and indicators)
The full power of the computer is available as this is node specific so the tradebot write can do horrible things with a Tradebot, but he can do worse with a hammer. No increased risks

All SuperNET API, coin daemon API, networking, etc. accessible in an interpreted environment. The C code is submitted using a JSON API string, so end users can create their own custom service using a Tradebot.

Of course, most end users are no C programmers, but with a set of standard Tradebots linked to buttons, the users can be using them without even knowing they are using Tradebots

Think of the SuperNET like the tcp/ip protocol. How many things can be built on top of tcp/ip
[of course to be confusing to you the SuperNET uses UDP for its transmissions]

The fees are collected in an service specific way, so there is no simple answer. All of the fee activities will be on the various blockchains, but at first it will have to be collected in centralized account. The sum of all the commissions can be done on any node once this software is done, but these are just the addings of numbers so I dont worry about it so much.

In any case it is always best to get the "free mode" working first so that the user behavior is understood. Then you can design the proper monetization methods, actually the proper monetization metrics so that you can analyze this data to experiment to maximize the monetization, which usually means getting as high a response rate without annoying the user, but this is all standard monetization techniques. with no difficult algo, just a matter of being methodical.

I am searching for people to staff the monetization group, so if anybody is interested in working for a percentage of SuperNET revenues, and you have good analytical skills, PM me

James

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September 07, 2014, 10:13:16 PM
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Few questions I would like to put forward to James.

So can anybody create services on the SuperNet or are we stuck with just these ones Teleport, InstantDEX, Tradebots (NXTcoinsco), Privatebetwill.

Also where do the fees paid for these services go, is it like Bitshares where the people who own the shares get a dividend. Is there a limit on the dividend also?

every feature a supernet core coin has is useable for every coin linked with supernet. ( each coin can even choose what features to use or not )
teleport for example is a service of BTCD.

fees will go as dividends to supernet asset holders and to the supernet core coin community.

Cool.

What's the dividend payment going to be? 100% of the profit split amongst shareholders?
10% for overhead and expenses (it is run at 90% profit margin)
50% of SuperNET revenues go to the assetholders
5% to NXT core developement
5% to BTCD stakers
20% to CORE coin communities (that are not NXT or BTCD)
10% I am keeping in reserve till I know more details

The last two are subject to change

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Shakeout.
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Shedding dead skin. Like a snake growing.
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September 07, 2014, 10:21:40 PM
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So who is this Iginio Shaw also known as Buy4crypto?  Nice lot of domains, perhaps one day some of them will be worth something. 
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James

Your statement before that any coin would be able to use the characteristics of any other coin in the network - that is by converting though instadex? Or natively? If natively, what would be the advantage of holding one net coin over the other, if they ca "do" the same things?
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September 07, 2014, 10:37:41 PM
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James

Your statement before that any coin would be able to use the characteristics of any other coin in the network - that is by converting though instadex? Or natively? If natively, what would be the advantage of holding one net coin over the other, if they ca "do" the same things?

the coins in the mix all have unique features any so no coin is remotely comparable. and they are getting coded extras?.

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Thanks, but this does not answer the question.
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September 07, 2014, 10:54:59 PM
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When on IRC, i got a PM from some one who needs help.

He made a startjoin but hasnt recieved any funds (for more information https://www.startjoin.com/surgery ). I think Vericoin can help this man.

We raised 500k VRC in 24 hour, can we raise another 13k (about 1.6 BTC needed)? Or use some from the 500k funds which we got back 'donated' from James?

After talking with him, i dont have the feeling this is a 'scam', let discuss.

https://twitter.com/AltMinerD/status/508044356419219456

https://twitter.com/btcdrak/status/498130414884900865

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September 07, 2014, 11:02:19 PM
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jl777 [James] thanks again! proud to be part of super net.


and welcome to vrc community.


working under positive energy.


ps: anybody negative just block/mute/ignore

everybody have a nice day! we will be moving forward.

future angel investors

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James

Your statement before that any coin would be able to use the characteristics of any other coin in the network - that is by converting though instadex? Or natively? If natively, what would be the advantage of holding one net coin over the other, if they ca "do" the same things?
Each coin would implement the JSON handling specific to their coin, so when they receive the API command, they can process it.

The SuperNET is the transport
The services are applications

Easier to understand is telephone system. yes this is very good analogy.

There are local phone calls and long distance calls. The local calls are comms between people using the same coin. Long distance are comms between different coins. The area code is the coin.

Doesnt matter who you are calling, you can use the same phone connected to the same socket.
here is where it is not so exact, but thing of a service as a specific type of phone.
some phones have video, others have cameras, not exactly right, but hopefully you get the idea.

all the data is on the internect
all the different services are sending packets directly between two computers
each computer can properly decrypt all the packets sent to it and route the JSON request to the right service

Currently it requires changing the source code to add a new API call and of course the code to actually perform the API function.

I hope this is understandable, it is no easy to explain in english what should be a matter of showing some code fragments

current commands
Code:
    static char **commands[] = { getpubkey, maketelepods, transporterstatus, telepod, transporter, tradebot, respondtx, processutx, publishaddrs, checkmsg, placebid, placeask, makeoffer, sendmsg, orderbook, getorderbooks, sellp, buyp, send, teleport, select  };

example of one of the above
Code:
    static char *teleport[] = { (char *)teleport_func, "teleport", "V", "NXT", "secret", "amount", "dest", "coin", "minage", "M", "N", 0 };

the "glue" function that actually calls the teleport function
Code:
char *teleport_func(char *sender,int32_t valid,cJSON **objs,int32_t numobjs,char *origargstr)
{
    double amount;
    int32_t M,N;
    struct coin_info *cp;
    char NXTACCTSECRET[512],destaddr[512],minage[512],coinstr[512],*retstr = 0;
    if ( Historical_done == 0 )
        return(clonestr("historical processing is not done yet"));
    copy_cJSON(NXTACCTSECRET,objs[1]);
    amount = get_API_float(objs[2]);
    copy_cJSON(destaddr,objs[3]);
    copy_cJSON(coinstr,objs[4]);
    copy_cJSON(minage,objs[5]);
    M = get_API_int(objs[6],1);
    N = get_API_int(objs[7],1);
    if ( M > N || N >= 0xff || M <= 0 )
        M = N = 1;
    printf("amount.(%.8f) minage.(%s) %d | M.%d N.%d\n",amount,minage,atoi(minage),M,N);
    cp = get_coin_info(coinstr);
    if ( cp != 0 && sender[0] != 0 && amount > 0 && valid != 0 && destaddr[0] != 0 )
        retstr = teleport(sender,NXTACCTSECRET,(uint64_t)(SATOSHIDEN * amount),destaddr,cp,atoi(minage),M,N);
    else retstr = clonestr("{\"error\":\"invalid teleport request\"}");
    return(retstr);
}

the teleport function, which triggers other API functions sometimes locally sometimes remotely, uses some genetic algo for telepod selection, etc.
Code:
char *teleport(char *NXTaddr,char *NXTACCTSECRET,uint64_t satoshis,char *otherpubaddr,struct coin_info *cp,int32_t minage,int32_t M,int32_t N)
{
    static unsigned char zerokey[crypto_box_PUBLICKEYBYTES];
    char buf[4096];
    uint8_t sharenrs[255];
    struct telepod **pods = 0;
    struct NXT_acct *np,*destnp;
    struct transporter_log *log;
    int32_t n,err = -1;
    uint32_t height;
    if ( M <= 0 )
        M = cp->M;
    if ( N <= 0 )
        N = cp->N;
    if ( M <= 0 )
        M = 1;
    if ( N <= 0 )
        N = 1;
    memset(sharenrs,0,sizeof(sharenrs));
    if ( N > 1 )
        init_sharenrs(sharenrs,0,N,N);
   
    sprintf(buf,"%s -> teleport %.8f %s -> %s minage.%d | M.%d N.%d dest.(%s)\n",NXTaddr,dstr(satoshis),cp->name,otherpubaddr,minage,M,N,otherpubaddr);
    if ( minage == 0 )
        minage = cp->minconfirms;
    destnp = search_addresses(otherpubaddr);
    height = (uint32_t)get_blockheight(cp);
    if ( (pods= evolve_transporter(&n,0,cp,minage,satoshis,height)) == 0 )
        sprintf(buf,"{\"error\":\"teleport: not enough  for %.8f %s to %s\"}",dstr(satoshis),cp->name,otherpubaddr);
    else
    {
        free(pods), pods = 0;
        np = find_NXTacct(NXTaddr,NXTACCTSECRET);
        if ( memcmp(destnp->pubkey,zerokey,sizeof(zerokey)) == 0 )
        {
            query_pubkey(destnp->H.NXTaddr,NXTACCTSECRET);
            sprintf(buf,"{\"error\":\"no pubkey for %s, request sent\"}",otherpubaddr);
        }
        if ( memcmp(destnp->pubkey,zerokey,sizeof(zerokey)) != 0 )
        {
            printf("start evolving at %f\n",milliseconds());
            pods = evolve_transporter(&n,cp->maxevolveiters,cp,minage,satoshis,height);
            printf("finished evolving at %f\n",milliseconds());
            if ( pods == 0 )
                sprintf(buf,"{\"error\":\"unexpected transporter evolve failure for %.8f %s to %s\"}",dstr(satoshis),cp->name,otherpubaddr);
            else
            {
                log = send_transporter_log(NXTaddr,cp->NXTACCTSECRET,destnp,cp,minage,satoshis,pods,n,M,N,sharenrs,otherpubaddr);
                if ( log == 0 )
                {
                    sprintf(buf,"{\"error\":\"unexpected error sending transporter log %.8f %s to %s\"}",dstr(satoshis),cp->name,otherpubaddr);
                    free(pods);
                    pods = 0;
                }
                else
                {
                    err = 0;
                    sprintf(buf,"{\"result\":\"teleport AFTER CREATE BUNDLE to %s err.%d\"}",destnp->H.NXTaddr,err);
                    printf("teleport AFTER CREATE BUNDLE to %s err.%d\n",destnp->H.NXTaddr,err);
                    process_pingpong_queue(&Transporter_sendQ,log);
                }
            }
        }
    }
    return(clonestr(buf));
}

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Thanks. This seems to be a relentless criticicism in the different trollboxes & forums, that once a coin joins the net it loses it's identity - and thus it's value.

It is an important distinction to be drawn.
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Thanks. This seems to be a relentless criticicism in the different trollboxes & forums, that once a coin joins the net it loses it's identity - and thus it's value.

It is an important distinction to be drawn.
ya , its normal when they don't fully understand the concept... its like saying , louis vitton is worth nothing now because they joined the internet ... superNET is for coins ,like interNET is for websites..
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Thanks. This seems to be a relentless criticicism in the different trollboxes & forums, that once a coin joins the net it loses it's identity - and thus it's value.

It is an important distinction to be drawn.
ya , its normal when they don't fully understand the concept... its like saying , louis vitton is worth nothing now because they joined the internet ... superNET is for coins ,like interNET is for websites..
exactly!

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well i understand it! thats why i am happy being included in the super net.

and help with the 10% escrow.

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Thanks. This seems to be a relentless criticicism in the different trollboxes & forums, that once a coin joins the net it loses it's identity - and thus it's value.

It is an important distinction to be drawn.
ya , its normal when they don't fully understand the concept... its like saying , louis vitton is worth nothing now because they joined the internet ... superNET is for coins ,like interNET is for websites..

Good analogy!

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James

Your statement before that any coin would be able to use the characteristics of any other coin in the network - that is by converting though instadex? Or natively? If natively, what would be the advantage of holding one net coin over the other, if they ca "do" the same things?
Each coin would implement the JSON handling specific to their coin, so when they receive the API command, they can process it.

The SuperNET is the transport
The services are applications

Easier to understand is telephone system. yes this is very good analogy.

There are local phone calls and long distance calls. The local calls are comms between people using the same coin. Long distance are comms between different coins. The area code is the coin.

Doesnt matter who you are calling, you can use the same phone connected to the same socket.
here is where it is not so exact, but thing of a service as a specific type of phone.
some phones have video, others have cameras, not exactly right, but hopefully you get the idea.

all the data is on the internect
all the different services are sending packets directly between two computers
each computer can properly decrypt all the packets sent to it and route the JSON request to the right service

Currently it requires changing the source code to add a new API call and of course the code to actually perform the API function.

I hope this is understandable, it is no easy to explain in english what should be a matter of showing some code fragments

current commands
Code:
    static char **commands[] = { getpubkey, maketelepods, transporterstatus, telepod, transporter, tradebot, respondtx, processutx, publishaddrs, checkmsg, placebid, placeask, makeoffer, sendmsg, orderbook, getorderbooks, sellp, buyp, send, teleport, select  };

example of one of the above
Code:
    static char *teleport[] = { (char *)teleport_func, "teleport", "V", "NXT", "secret", "amount", "dest", "coin", "minage", "M", "N", 0 };

the "glue" function that actually calls the teleport function
Code:
char *teleport_func(char *sender,int32_t valid,cJSON **objs,int32_t numobjs,char *origargstr)
{
    double amount;
    int32_t M,N;
    struct coin_info *cp;
    char NXTACCTSECRET[512],destaddr[512],minage[512],coinstr[512],*retstr = 0;
    if ( Historical_done == 0 )
        return(clonestr("historical processing is not done yet"));
    copy_cJSON(NXTACCTSECRET,objs[1]);
    amount = get_API_float(objs[2]);
    copy_cJSON(destaddr,objs[3]);
    copy_cJSON(coinstr,objs[4]);
    copy_cJSON(minage,objs[5]);
    M = get_API_int(objs[6],1);
    N = get_API_int(objs[7],1);
    if ( M > N || N >= 0xff || M <= 0 )
        M = N = 1;
    printf("amount.(%.8f) minage.(%s) %d | M.%d N.%d\n",amount,minage,atoi(minage),M,N);
    cp = get_coin_info(coinstr);
    if ( cp != 0 && sender[0] != 0 && amount > 0 && valid != 0 && destaddr[0] != 0 )
        retstr = teleport(sender,NXTACCTSECRET,(uint64_t)(SATOSHIDEN * amount),destaddr,cp,atoi(minage),M,N);
    else retstr = clonestr("{\"error\":\"invalid teleport request\"}");
    return(retstr);
}

the teleport function, which triggers other API functions sometimes locally sometimes remotely, uses some genetic algo for telepod selection, etc.
Code:
char *teleport(char *NXTaddr,char *NXTACCTSECRET,uint64_t satoshis,char *otherpubaddr,struct coin_info *cp,int32_t minage,int32_t M,int32_t N)
{
    static unsigned char zerokey[crypto_box_PUBLICKEYBYTES];
    char buf[4096];
    uint8_t sharenrs[255];
    struct telepod **pods = 0;
    struct NXT_acct *np,*destnp;
    struct transporter_log *log;
    int32_t n,err = -1;
    uint32_t height;
    if ( M <= 0 )
        M = cp->M;
    if ( N <= 0 )
        N = cp->N;
    if ( M <= 0 )
        M = 1;
    if ( N <= 0 )
        N = 1;
    memset(sharenrs,0,sizeof(sharenrs));
    if ( N > 1 )
        init_sharenrs(sharenrs,0,N,N);
   
    sprintf(buf,"%s -> teleport %.8f %s -> %s minage.%d | M.%d N.%d dest.(%s)\n",NXTaddr,dstr(satoshis),cp->name,otherpubaddr,minage,M,N,otherpubaddr);
    if ( minage == 0 )
        minage = cp->minconfirms;
    destnp = search_addresses(otherpubaddr);
    height = (uint32_t)get_blockheight(cp);
    if ( (pods= evolve_transporter(&n,0,cp,minage,satoshis,height)) == 0 )
        sprintf(buf,"{\"error\":\"teleport: not enough  for %.8f %s to %s\"}",dstr(satoshis),cp->name,otherpubaddr);
    else
    {
        free(pods), pods = 0;
        np = find_NXTacct(NXTaddr,NXTACCTSECRET);
        if ( memcmp(destnp->pubkey,zerokey,sizeof(zerokey)) == 0 )
        {
            query_pubkey(destnp->H.NXTaddr,NXTACCTSECRET);
            sprintf(buf,"{\"error\":\"no pubkey for %s, request sent\"}",otherpubaddr);
        }
        if ( memcmp(destnp->pubkey,zerokey,sizeof(zerokey)) != 0 )
        {
            printf("start evolving at %f\n",milliseconds());
            pods = evolve_transporter(&n,cp->maxevolveiters,cp,minage,satoshis,height);
            printf("finished evolving at %f\n",milliseconds());
            if ( pods == 0 )
                sprintf(buf,"{\"error\":\"unexpected transporter evolve failure for %.8f %s to %s\"}",dstr(satoshis),cp->name,otherpubaddr);
            else
            {
                log = send_transporter_log(NXTaddr,cp->NXTACCTSECRET,destnp,cp,minage,satoshis,pods,n,M,N,sharenrs,otherpubaddr);
                if ( log == 0 )
                {
                    sprintf(buf,"{\"error\":\"unexpected error sending transporter log %.8f %s to %s\"}",dstr(satoshis),cp->name,otherpubaddr);
                    free(pods);
                    pods = 0;
                }
                else
                {
                    err = 0;
                    sprintf(buf,"{\"result\":\"teleport AFTER CREATE BUNDLE to %s err.%d\"}",destnp->H.NXTaddr,err);
                    printf("teleport AFTER CREATE BUNDLE to %s err.%d\n",destnp->H.NXTaddr,err);
                    process_pingpong_queue(&Transporter_sendQ,log);
                }
            }
        }
    }
    return(clonestr(buf));
}

That's impressive James. Very.

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Thanks. This seems to be a relentless criticicism in the different trollboxes & forums, that once a coin joins the net it loses it's identity - and thus it's value.

It is an important distinction to be drawn.
ya , its normal when they don't fully understand the concept... its like saying , louis vitton is worth nothing now because they joined the internet ... superNET is for coins ,like interNET is for websites..
exactly!
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September 08, 2014, 02:07:01 AM
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I wonder how long before dev 1, 2, and 3 fade away and the anon BCT user takes full control. This coin is now nothing more than a typical p&d pile of shit. Good job Pat and Doug. Way to sell out.

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I have just sent 20k. Cheesy

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PM 1 to Doug  August 26, 2014, 10:43:24 AM »



Its a lot, and I may miss a lot of points, as we work through things they will come up.

I think the coin could use to get some of the stuff off of our plate. For our team to set a "standards" code. This doesn't have to be law, but a general way of doing business. As a standard, people representing the coin have to be able to detach personal emotions, profit motives and all other things that may influence them, and look at what the business of vericoin needs to succeed, and that is it. We cannot think of it as, What can Buy4crypto get out of it when I post everytime. And our developers have to think every time about the coin as well.

We need to focus on cutting the projects out that don't make sense to the future of vericoin, and making the things we do, done well.

I think this is a great place to start making changes. Once people see that the core developers, and core community is honest and are working hard, and creating value, then they investors will come back. VeriCoin needs to perhaps think of changing out the roadmap with various VeriCoin media of the few things we decide to do, and do well.

For the Bio sections. Instead of saying who they are, or why they got into crypto. Our profiles should show us in a visionary light in some ways. As a team really pushing virtual currencies forward. Right now everyone in crypto is chasing a technological advancement. When the reality is this open sources code will be copied and applied by every coin.

This is why, IMO a coin has failed to reach levels of significance closer to bitcoin. Every coin has the wrong pretense to achieve mass adoption. We are close by understanding we need to take chances to get to that point. If we focus on putting a culture in place, and growing a team ready to help people learn about crypto, this is where we will gain value, we can use our good guy image and really be a brand that stands for integrity, and quality.


If we focus our goals, and time in the right areas, within months we could be brandable as the clean crypto, where your investment is safe, with honest people looking to take on another first in crypto, and get regulated. We can copy / paste the parts we need, and drop the ones we don't. If we need to code things, lets code them, and code them well. But for the most part. I think we can gain the most value by working to shift the image. This won't happen overnight. But if everyone is willing, and can see the vision, the team could really make great strides towards the future doing these steps.


PM 2 to Doug August 26, 2014, 10:54:42 AM »



I just had a PM from socal asking for a few points, so I will copy / paste what I sent him.



"Its a lot, and I may miss a lot of points, as we work through things they will come up.

I think the coin could use to get some of the stuff off of our plate. For our team to set a "standards" code. This doesn't have to be law, but a general way of doing business. As a standard, people representing the coin have to be able to detach personal emotions, profit motives and all other things that may influence them, and look at what the business of vericoin needs to succeed, and that is it. We cannot think of it as, What can Buy4crypto get out of it when I post every time. And our developers have to think every time about the coin as well.

We need to focus on cutting the projects out that don't make sense to the future of vericoin, and making the things we do, done well.

I think this is a great place to start making changes. Once people see that the core developers, and core community is honest and are working hard, and creating value, then they investors will come back. VeriCoin needs to perhaps think of changing out the roadmap with various VeriCoin media of the few things we decide to do, and do well.

For the Bio sections. Instead of saying who they are, or why they got into crypto. Our profiles should show us in a visionary light in some ways. As a team really pushing virtual currencies forward. Right now everyone in crypto is chasing a technological advancement. When the reality is this open sources code will be copied and applied by every coin.

This is why, IMO a coin has failed to reach levels of significance closer to bitcoin. Every coin has the wrong pretense to achieve mass adoption. We are close by understanding we need to take chances to get to that point. If we focus on putting a culture in place, and growing a team ready to help people learn about crypto, this is where we will gain value, we can use our good guy image and really be a brand that stands for integrity, and quality.


If we focus our goals, and time in the right areas, within months we could be brandable as the clean crypto, where your investment is safe, with honest people looking to take on another first in crypto, and get regulated. We can copy / paste the parts we need, and drop the ones we don't. If we need to code things, lets code them, and code them well. But for the most part. I think we can gain the most value by working to shift the image. This won't happen overnight. But if everyone is willing, and can see the vision, the team could really make great strides towards the future doing these steps."


And just a quick message to you personally.

I think a new way to approach future development would be supporting other projects that we are interested in. Instead of competing off the bat. Let the Virtual Currency world work together a bit more. To show that we aren't all renegades and interested in ME, ME, ME. We have the chance to take a psychological step forward. Something not even bitcoin has achieved. Not 1 virtual currency has as many inherent advantages as this one, and we have strayed from what was making us strong in the past few months. This is something I hope you consider, and if you like the idea, I hope you share it with the community.

We really need to stop thinking inside the box, and start thinking differently to impact a more positive outcome in the future. How are we getting from point a, to point b, with the greatest positive impact on every person, investor, mother, child along the way. If we team up with other currencies to offer support, be it our "Dev" department. Maybe we have a social media team, we can draw on our artists talent for other support roles to help the coins working on innovative projects get them out, and with more coordination, and in so many other ways. All of which these people can be public figures. At that point, we would be thanked, and given credibility. If we build out a team, and connect them with personal, professional looking bios I think you could have something special.

I think you may find, many developers, and communities would find this a refreshing approach and work closely with VeriCoin, instead of viewing us as competition.

PM 3 to Doug August 26, 2014, 11:03:24 AM »


And if you do all that. Clearly state at the beginning, we are going to be working toward regulation. We need public figures ready to advance virtual currencies.

Play the generic roll with this approach a bit more. Lets take the approach of the crypto good guys, that are investors in vericoin, but champions of the blockchain.

Look at great companies like Bitpay. They just paid 500k a year for 3 years to market a bowlgame. They chose to represent Bitcoin over their own company name. This type of thinking shows how visionary these people are. We need more people to think like this. That VeriCoin is going to be around built on a foundation of honesty, integrity, and hard working people looking to make everyone's life better, regardless if they chose to invest in vericoin or coin X. I have a feeling when you are the first, and only coin with that goal, that you will attract a lot of the "right people" to this project.


SuperNet thread Creation Date Aug 30

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=762346.msg8592943#msg8592943


James has been talking with VeriCoin developers for a while now. It looks like it didn't take him long to take my ideas, and run / profit on them. So, Ask yourselfs, what about ole buy4crypto and what he said to these devs just days in advance, of such a game changing idea.

VeriCoin had all the tools to do this on its own, now. jl777 will put his name all over! Then, take all the credit, HOW LUCKY you guys are!

I read your post two times now.
All that i see is:
1. Good guy image
2. Try too work on projects.

Where is supernet and its code?
You are starting to get pretty delusional...

I am delusional? I am sorry I dbl posted something, I edited the part where I repeated the same thing. If you think I am delusional, well. The facts are facts. If Doug says he never said a word to James. Then I am delusional, If Doug says he spoke with james about this, it would make a lot of sense that I am not so delusional, huh?

I was actually told from Doug himself on Aug 26 or 27, that he would use many of my ideas in an upcoming meeting. You starting to think i'm less delusional?

This is exactly the part I can't stand, I am here to help you. I OWN NO VERICOIN. If you can't see this, I cannot help you further.

buy4crypto, yes you did send me this, yes there is some really good ideas here.  Yes I did talk to some investors about some of these ideas.  No it wasn't James.  When you felt ousted, many people wanted to get info and it wasn't possible when you wouldn't let others take a turn to comment.
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