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September 07, 2014, 04:24:37 PM
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So, VRC has finally jumped ship and admitted they don't know shit from applebutter so they bring in some anon asshole to "save" Vericoin.

And you all tossed him $70k to do it. He'll likely turn that $70k into $100k, but a new Tesla and be out. At least that's what I'd do if a bunch of morons tossed me a load of money for nothing.

1. VeriCoin needed NO "saving" with or without James. We're doing fine… really. Smiley
2. No one gave ANYONE anything as the VRC was put in Escrow.
3. Welcome! *Please be constructive if you're going to make accusations.

Also… I can assure you… personally… I am NO moron.

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Brand new newbie account and already talking crap.  Ignore  Grin

and complaining about the anon part at the same time priceless.

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Can someone explain shortly whats happening?
I was out of crypto world fir more then a month, and im vrc holder
Well a quick summary of the recent activities. A developer that goes by the name "james" has been talking with the development team for a few weeks now about bring vericoin into a project he is working called SuperNET. From my basic understanding of the project it's basically like a blockchain 2.0 or a similar project to what the team on ethereum. Basically it's a newer more decentralized way of using digital currencies/blockchain technology.

So it's not actually changing the coin, nor would this new developer actually be working on improving anything within vericoin - he is simply willing to make vericoin a part of his bigger project (which raised some 3,000 BTC yesterday in an IPO type launch).

So as we speak we are on a short timeline to raise 500,000 VRC which is our upfront contribution to show him we are committed to having him work with our community. As of now we're at something like 475,000 VRC. So this vericoin that is being sent to a fund held by the developers will be paid over time when this guy is able to hit certain milestones in the price .0005 is the first watermark that has been talked about.

If for any reason this project falls through, those who donated will get their money sent back. This is the fund: VECuyuNjLDh437hJfABSxV1817D982S4H6
The SuperNET fund raising concept started weeks after my agreement with drkman. This deal is no guarantee of SuperNET core acceptance, VRC must earn that like any other coin. However, the spokescoin role, this is something that will be voted on by the SuperNET asset holders. We have 4 weeks to get VRC in its finest form so there is no controversy for passing this vote. So, the VRC, it is very special. Part of my cryto family that I am adopting, not as a baby like with BTCD, but as a fiesty teenager entering the prime of life. And soon a powerful voice for all of crypto in the mainstream fiat world. The funnel through which the forces of SuperNET will convert the ordinary fiat peoples into crypto peoples.

I also think this function of reaching many peoples, there are many coins most notable the DOGE, which are very good at such things. I would like the VRC community to setup an outreach to all these like minded communities and we can join forces not only using technology, but just sharing the same UNITY. Maybe people are still not understanding that the most value in a coin is its community. The tech is of course needed, but without community there is nothing. A community without tech will be able to obtain the tech, all is required is some money. So please find the coin communities with already a good positive energy and we can create a combined megaphone to broadcast the UNITY message.

All the coins will be able to use the SuperNET, even if they are not inside the core. Without these communities to use the SuperNET, then it is only internal traffics. this is not bad, but why not to make it 10x bigger?

James

P.S. I like the odds of my new tech to achieve the acceptance in the new year.

I missed this. Awesome James! I, too, see the bigger picture. The most difficult part is getting everyone on the same page. I will try my best to help in that regard.

We appreciate the opportunity! VeriCoin is long term and this is only the beginning.

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September 07, 2014, 04:35:24 PM
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What's the next step here?


I say it's time for some relaxation because we just passed an important milestone in the history of VeriCoin.  For those of us who have been in VRC through the ups and downs of the last few months, maybe it's even worth doing a little celebrating.  I feel as though we deserve it.

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Sorry but we are now done with VRC.

Why after all the BTC we have spent on VRC would we spend any more if some egotistical anonymous dev is just going take all the credit and get paid for our efforts and any sort of price rise...

This is not at all how we wanted things to be but if ppl want to believe in the so called "jl777" effect as not being a pump, well thats just dumb. There are so many problems with this deal I can not even list them all. This developer as he said it... will not even have time for VeriCoin until next year.

On top of that....
The best thing VRC had going for it was the fact that all the developers where out and in the open with who they are and what their intentions have been, and this has been the biggest thing about VRC that is a threat to all the developers of shitcoins everywhere. Then this deal came into the picture and all that has gone out the window... ppl here are too impatient and jump up and down at the slightest mention of a pump... even after all the dumping that this coin has been through

apparently ppl just can not wait a month till after NY finishes their rules and regs. VRC could have really shined there by being first and only coin to comply...but JL777 joining in my mind kills all of that.

This developer joining VRC is as far away from being the whitehat of crypto as possible. Enjoy getting in bed with as JL777 himself called it "dirty" money and the potentially legal nightmare that this might become. but we are no more.

Regardless of your skepticism… you have some main points wrong. James is not a VeriCoin developer. He is joining as a member of the community and we will be joining his proposed network.

Aside from James… we have some great things planned for the future and I think you'll be surprised by some of the things we announce.

It's all about having patience. I actually promote being skeptical - so long as it's done in a respectful way.

Feel free to join in or not. It's your money, your time and your decision.

Good luck - either way! Smiley

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September 07, 2014, 04:46:17 PM
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Sorry but we are now done with VRC.

Why after all the BTC we have spent on VRC would we spend any more if some egotistical anonymous dev is just going take all the credit and get paid for our efforts and any sort of price rise...

This is not at all how we wanted things to be but if ppl want to believe in the so called "jl777" effect as not being a pump, well thats just dumb. There are so many problems with this deal I can not even list them all. This developer as he said it... will not even have time for VeriCoin until next year.

On top of that....
The best thing VRC had going for it was the fact that all the developers where out and in the open with who they are and what their intentions have been, and this has been the biggest thing about VRC that is a threat to all the developers of shitcoins everywhere. Then this deal came into the picture and all that has gone out the window... ppl here are too impatient and jump up and down at the slightest mention of a pump... even after all the dumping that this coin has been through

apparently ppl just can not wait a month till after NY finishes their rules and regs. VRC could have really shined there by being first and only coin to comply...but JL777 joining in my mind kills all of that.

This developer joining VRC is as far away from being the whitehat of crypto as possible. Enjoy getting in bed with as JL777 himself called it "dirty" money and the potentially legal nightmare that this might become. but we are no more.

James donated the escrow back to the community for voted usage.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=602041.msg8713312#msg8713312
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September 07, 2014, 04:52:32 PM
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So, VRC has finally jumped ship and admitted they don't know shit from applebutter so they bring in some anon asshole to "save" Vericoin.

And you all tossed him $70k to do it. He'll likely turn that $70k into $100k, but a new Tesla and be out. At least that's what I'd do if a bunch of morons tossed me a load of money for nothing.


Sorry but we are now done with VRC.

Why after all the BTC we have spent on VRC would we spend any more if some egotistical anonymous dev is just going take all the credit and get paid for our efforts and any sort of price rise...

This is not at all how we wanted things to be but if ppl want to believe in the so called "jl777" effect as not being a pump, well thats just dumb. There are so many problems with this deal I can not even list them all. This developer as he said it... will not even have time for VeriCoin until next year.

On top of that....
The best thing VRC had going for it was the fact that all the developers where out and in the open with who they are and what their intentions have been, and this has been the biggest thing about VRC that is a threat to all the developers of shitcoins everywhere. Then this deal came into the picture and all that has gone out the window... ppl here are too impatient and jump up and down at the slightest mention of a pump... even after all the dumping that this coin has been through

apparently ppl just can not wait a month till after NY finishes their rules and regs. VRC could have really shined there by being first and only coin to comply...but JL777 joining in my mind kills all of that.

This developer joining VRC is as far away from being the whitehat of crypto as possible. Enjoy getting in bed with as JL777 himself called it "dirty" money and the potentially legal nightmare that this might become. but we are no more.

Before people continue to waste more time/effort trying to argue with these guys, please keep in mind they have a total combined post amount of: 6.

Why don't y'all jump on your real accounts so we can see what coins you're currently holding and what your true motives are? jl777 has pretty much turned every coin he has worked with into a 1,000-10,000% ROI. Not only has he turned himself into a self made millionaire but every that has stuck behind his projects has gotten rich too.

Please keep in mind no one is asking/making you stick around. Feel free to use the door.
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September 07, 2014, 04:53:30 PM
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The entire Escrow Fund now belongs to the VRC community!

So there goes ALL the FUD out the window.

We appreciate what James brings to the table and hope to continue a solid partnership going forward.
We'll still be asking for donations to increase the Escrow as that will help the community in a lot of ways down the line but yeah… this is a WIN/WIN.

Smile. Looks good on ya. Smiley

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September 07, 2014, 04:56:49 PM
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Brand new newbie account and already talking crap.  Ignore  Grin
My other account is Webay, forgot my first account(posted in this thread when I got into around June 9th, but I don't remember the passwords- the accounts mean nothing to me anyway. What means something, however, are developers who stick to their guns and don't sell out. VRC was my first coin to really invest in and it was for the transparency of the devs, their intelligence, and their enthusiasm. All of which is now in question. I'll likely hold a few k as this will now be a standard p&d coin, but as far as my own beliefs in this coin as a long term investment- pfffftt that ship has sailed.

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September 07, 2014, 05:21:32 PM
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VRC was my first coin to really invest in [...] 

Ok, so you're new to the altcoin world - welcome.

as far as my own beliefs in this coin as a long term investment- pfffftt that ship has sailed.

So the fact one of the most successful developers in altcoins has decided to take time out of his schedule to help improve vericoin and also has been talking about a 1-3 year plan is a red flag for your 'ship to sail'? I guess I'm not sure what else you'd be looking for. This is some of the best news vericoin has received in awhile.
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September 07, 2014, 05:49:12 PM
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The only redeeming quality here is that the VRC devs have finally put a muzzle on Socal.

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September 07, 2014, 05:58:46 PM
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The entire Escrow Fund now belongs to the VRC community!

So there goes ALL the FUD out the window.

We appreciate what James brings to the table and hope to continue a solid partnership going forward.
We'll still be asking for donations to increase the Escrow as that will help the community in a lot of ways down the line but yeah… this is a WIN/WIN.

Smile. Looks good on ya. Smiley

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^ THIS ~

Before anymore bashing, nonsense, name calling..etc. Read the above.

I must admit, i was skeptical at first till this.

This is the first time in a long time that we have all come together in this manner. This is a group effort, it is about working together to achieve this goal. Nothing wrong with reaching out and collaborating with another.



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September 07, 2014, 06:05:20 PM
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I added to my position today during the pullback.  Once we've gone back over 20K I don't think we're ever going to see these low prices again.

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September 07, 2014, 06:13:51 PM
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Sorry but we are now done with VRC.

Why after all the BTC we have spent on VRC would we spend any more if some egotistical anonymous dev is just going take all the credit and get paid for our efforts and any sort of price rise...

This is not at all how we wanted things to be but if ppl want to believe in the so called "jl777" effect as not being a pump, well thats just dumb. There are so many problems with this deal I can not even list them all. This developer as he said it... will not even have time for VeriCoin until next year.

On top of that....
The best thing VRC had going for it was the fact that all the developers where out and in the open with who they are and what their intentions have been, and this has been the biggest thing about VRC that is a threat to all the developers of shitcoins everywhere. Then this deal came into the picture and all that has gone out the window... ppl here are too impatient and jump up and down at the slightest mention of a pump... even after all the dumping that this coin has been through

apparently ppl just can not wait a month till after NY finishes their rules and regs. VRC could have really shined there by being first and only coin to comply...but JL777 joining in my mind kills all of that.

This developer joining VRC is as far away from being the whitehat of crypto as possible. Enjoy getting in bed with as JL777 himself called it "dirty" money and the potentially legal nightmare that this might become. but we are no more.

James donated the escrow back to the community for voted usage.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=602041.msg8713312#msg8713312

Hi Doug,

What exactly does this mean, "for voted usage"?  How will the funds be used?

Thanks

EDIT: It's nice to have this forum back. Wink

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It's nice to have this forum back. Wink


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September 07, 2014, 06:26:52 PM
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Sorry but we are now done with VRC.

Why after all the BTC we have spent on VRC would we spend any more if some egotistical anonymous dev is just going take all the credit and get paid for our efforts and any sort of price rise...

This is not at all how we wanted things to be but if ppl want to believe in the so called "jl777" effect as not being a pump, well thats just dumb. There are so many problems with this deal I can not even list them all. This developer as he said it... will not even have time for VeriCoin until next year.

On top of that....
The best thing VRC had going for it was the fact that all the developers where out and in the open with who they are and what their intentions have been, and this has been the biggest thing about VRC that is a threat to all the developers of shitcoins everywhere. Then this deal came into the picture and all that has gone out the window... ppl here are too impatient and jump up and down at the slightest mention of a pump... even after all the dumping that this coin has been through

apparently ppl just can not wait a month till after NY finishes their rules and regs. VRC could have really shined there by being first and only coin to comply...but JL777 joining in my mind kills all of that.

This developer joining VRC is as far away from being the whitehat of crypto as possible. Enjoy getting in bed with as JL777 himself called it "dirty" money and the potentially legal nightmare that this might become. but we are no more.

James donated the escrow back to the community for voted usage.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=602041.msg8713312#msg8713312

Hi Doug,

What exactly does this mean, "for voted usage"?  How will the funds be used?

Thanks

EDIT: It's nice to have this forum back. Wink


this means that the community will decide what to do with the fund Smiley

this is more then win-win situation  Wink


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i didnt meant that supernet will overthrow or replace bitcoin, but it will help the altcoinmarket to grow and make standards, which will be very important to go mainstream with crypto Smiley

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September 07, 2014, 06:42:00 PM
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http://www.cryptoarticles.com/crypto-news/vericoin-roadmap-fiat-exchange-bitcoin-portal-transparency-and-more

"SHort-term plans for VeriCoin include having public profiles online for all VeriCoin developers on June 22nd. We will finally be able to put a name next to those IRC nicknames, and it’s another step towards transparency, which can only be a good thing."

This meant something to me.

Make me proud , No, make me RICH. Now I'm getting it. This however, doesn't align with my business goals, or how I do business. gl all!

BTW, all this money pouring into this guys new project, is something I was proposing to our vericoin devs as a standalone vericoin project at least a week in advance of any SuperNet threads. It would not suprise me if they mentioned this to James, and he ran with the idea, now making millions off of it, And that is fine. I am not in a position to do this myself. But I just want you all to know I have been thinking this / prosposing ideas like this behind the scene at least a week before any SuperNet.

How? Using our integrity as our asset to draw out relationships and build on the front line with coins, as opposed to this whole messy mixing of coins and financial wrangling. My idea was much more pure, to keep each coin there own, while strengthening development, and lead times in projects. If you don't think I am being honest, Speak to Doug about how / when / what I proposed and he will probably make you all realize you need to appologize right now to me to be very honest.

I had been the biggest champion of this coin until you all have managed to alienate me. My time, everything I gave to this coin, is pushed aside to promote this mans agenda. I appreciate some of you who understood me, the people who refer to me as a troll, or worse, need to realize you just lost one of your best minds in this project. One of the only ones remaining who didn't put a dollar, over integrity.

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September 07, 2014, 06:54:30 PM
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Pretty Fancy-Foot work there James LOL!

is there any limit - how many altcoins can join the supernet ?

James said he is hand picking the ones he wants - or something along those lines.

So far it's NXT, BitCoinDark, BoolBerry and VeriCoin I believe.
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Hey Kevondo, how much are you chipping in to the fund

None.

I've donated over 12% of my holdings to various VRC Community projects and been a vocal supporter.

The fact ij777/James chooses to remain anonymous is a Deal Breaker for me. (Even if I could justify the other points of the deal on principle.)

But it wouldn't matter even if I was fully behind the deal I still wouldn't give anymore VRC.

I've advocated a 10% community wide committment to the VeriFund since the beginning.

In my mind I've given my share of VRC. If my stash was much "Grander" and considering "economies of scale"  it might be I would give a larger percentage amount. But I have what I have so the reality of that will never be known.

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You have been vouched for by a trusted member, this is all is needed.
I am just in a troll destruction mode today as all the jeolousy from the money I caused to come in (but cant touch) is making a troll infestation.
Since I am new and unaware of your dedication to VRC, I hope to be forgiven for my harshness. I do apologize for any offense

James
wow , james you are now the person i trust the most in crypto, just by this post showed me everything i need to know... your projects and vision is exactly what crypto needed!

also would like to add that i have a family also and with the work your doing ,the amount of money your working with and the behaviour of some people, i also would 100% be anonymous !! FAMILY is ALWAYS #1 ! I have more respect for you with every post. Wink thanks for uniting us again and your goal in uniting crypto !!
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Its a lot, and I may miss a lot of points, as we work through things they will come up.

I think the coin could use to get some of the stuff off of our plate. For our team to set a "standards" code. This doesn't have to be law, but a general way of doing business. As a standard, people representing the coin have to be able to detach personal emotions, profit motives and all other things that may influence them, and look at what the business of vericoin needs to succeed, and that is it. We cannot think of it as, What can Buy4crypto get out of it when I post everytime. And our developers have to think every time about the coin as well.

We need to focus on cutting the projects out that don't make sense to the future of vericoin, and making the things we do, done well.

I think this is a great place to start making changes. Once people see that the core developers, and core community is honest and are working hard, and creating value, then they investors will come back. VeriCoin needs to perhaps think of changing out the roadmap with various VeriCoin media of the few things we decide to do, and do well.

For the Bio sections. Instead of saying who they are, or why they got into crypto. Our profiles should show us in a visionary light in some ways. As a team really pushing virtual currencies forward. Right now everyone in crypto is chasing a technological advancement. When the reality is this open sources code will be copied and applied by every coin.

This is why, IMO a coin has failed to reach levels of significance closer to bitcoin. Every coin has the wrong pretense to achieve mass adoption. We are close by understanding we need to take chances to get to that point. If we focus on putting a culture in place, and growing a team ready to help people learn about crypto, this is where we will gain value, we can use our good guy image and really be a brand that stands for integrity, and quality.


If we focus our goals, and time in the right areas, within months we could be brandable as the clean crypto, where your investment is safe, with honest people looking to take on another first in crypto, and get regulated. We can copy / paste the parts we need, and drop the ones we don't. If we need to code things, lets code them, and code them well. But for the most part. I think we can gain the most value by working to shift the image. This won't happen overnight. But if everyone is willing, and can see the vision, the team could really make great strides towards the future doing these steps.


PM 2 to Doug August 26, 2014, 10:54:42 AM »



And just a quick message to you personally.

I think a new way to approach future development would be supporting other projects that we are interested in. Instead of competing off the bat. Let the Virtual Currency world work together a bit more. To show that we aren't all renegades and interested in ME, ME, ME. We have the chance to take a psychological step forward. Something not even bitcoin has achieved. Not 1 virtual currency has as many inherent advantages as this one, and we have strayed from what was making us strong in the past few months. This is something I hope you consider, and if you like the idea, I hope you share it with the community.

We really need to stop thinking inside the box, and start thinking differently to impact a more positive outcome in the future. How are we getting from point a, to point b, with the greatest positive impact on every person, investor, mother, child along the way. If we team up with other currencies to offer support, be it our "Dev" department. Maybe we have a social media team, we can draw on our artists talent for other support roles to help the coins working on innovative projects get them out, and with more coordination, and in so many other ways. All of which these people can be public figures. At that point, we would be thanked, and given credibility. If we build out a team, and connect them with personal, professional looking bios I think you could have something special.

I think you may find, many developers, and communities would find this a refreshing approach and work closely with VeriCoin, instead of viewing us as competition.



PM 3 to Doug August 26, 2014, 11:03:24 AM »




And if you do all that. Clearly state at the beginning, we are going to be working toward regulation. We need public figures ready to advance virtual currencies.

Play the generic roll with this approach a bit more. Lets take the approach of the crypto good guys, that are investors in vericoin, but champions of the blockchain.

Look at great companies like Bitpay. They just paid 500k a year for 3 years to market a bowlgame. They chose to represent Bitcoin over their own company name. This type of thinking shows how visionary these people are. We need more people to think like this. That VeriCoin is going to be around built on a foundation of honesty, integrity, and hard working people looking to make everyone's life better, regardless if they chose to invest in vericoin or coin X. I have a feeling when you are the first, and only coin with that goal, that you will attract a lot of the "right people" to this project.


SuperNet thread Creation Date Aug 30

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=762346.msg8592943#msg8592943


James has been talking with VeriCoin developers for a while now. It looks like it didn't take him long to take my ideas, and run / profit on them. So, Ask yourselfs, what about ole buy4crypto and what he said to these devs just days in advance, of such a game changing idea.

VeriCoin had all the tools to do this on its own, now. jl777 will put his name all over! Then, take all the credit, HOW LUCKY you guys are!

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September 07, 2014, 07:06:50 PM
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The entire Escrow Fund now belongs to the VRC community!

So there goes ALL the FUD out the window.

We appreciate what James brings to the table and hope to continue a solid partnership going forward.
We'll still be asking for donations to increase the Escrow as that will help the community in a lot of ways down the line but yeah… this is a WIN/WIN.

Smile. Looks good on ya. Smiley

Jay Jay
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A win win for the community but I dont understand why should james do all this and not get rewarded for it? What would be his motivation to actually make it happen ?

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