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July 01, 2014, 12:00:14 PM
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I love how this thread immediately became about me instead of the security flaws and other issues I'm bringing up with the source code.

It is pretty telling.

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July 01, 2014, 12:02:09 PM
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I love how this thread immediately became about me instead of the security flaws and other issues I'm bringing up with the source code.

It is pretty telling.

The security was talked about and left alone by the dev a long time ago, its being resolved.

You on the other hand don't shut up and leave. You made your point, move on?

What are your intentions of sitting in this thread, repeating yourself time and time again? Might be better to talk to the dev straight away instead of all this running around no?

As someone whose set to work on an exchange you must have a bit more intelligence than your showing today.

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July 01, 2014, 12:02:17 PM
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Anyone notice on mintpal that Vertcoin has doubled in price in the past 6 hours... just before I logged off Vericoin and vertcoin were both sitting at 47k there abouts and now vertcoin is sitting at 100k+ sats , so I think Vericoin willalso soon be hitting over the 100K sat mark..

Looks like Vertcoin is adding a lot of features and ideas vericoin has and is adding....

also with both coin names so close to each other are they riding on each other success...

was thinking about this.... a mate says to his buddy you should check out vericoin and his buddy gets online and finds vertcoin and buys it cause he got mixed up....

Newbies getting in to crypto could get these two coins confused with each other...

What if by error you are on and exchange and you transfer vericoin to a vertcoin wallet by mistake.. or the other way around... I bet that has happened to people before... specially if you are very tired.. mistakes happen...

Could both these coins merge to become a monster coin... and both dev teams work together on the one coin... instead of trying to out do each other... just thinking out aloud now..
so.. while there's been a lot of FUDding here, the other coin shoots up 100%~
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July 01, 2014, 12:03:44 PM
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I love how this thread immediately became about me instead of the security flaws and other issues I'm bringing up with the source code.

It is pretty telling.

The security was talked about and left alone by the dev a long time ago, its being resolved.

You on the other hand don't shut up and leave. You made your point, move on?

I don't know what thread you are reading but maybe not this one?

One issue was talked about, the developer downplayed the issue. I immediately found a way around his "closing the webservices" and found several others. So I don't think it was exactly resolved.

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July 01, 2014, 12:04:59 PM
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so.. while there's been a lot of FUDding here, the other coin shoots up 100%~

Sorry but zoom out. Vertcoin is in terminal decline and has been for a while.

                                   
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July 01, 2014, 12:05:36 PM
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I love how this thread immediately became about me instead of the security flaws and other issues I'm bringing up with the source code.

It is pretty telling.

The security was talked about and left alone by the dev a long time ago, its being resolved.

You on the other hand don't shut up and leave. You made your point, move on?

I don't know what thread you are reading but maybe not this one?

One issue was talked about, the developer downplayed the issue. I immediately found a way around his "closing the webservices" and found several others. So I don't think it was exactly resolved.

You don't think anything the dev tells you is fact, so why should we hold your words accountable over the dev, whose clearly responded to you several times and made it clear your concerns.

You don't listen well either, He said it was there intention to close the web services anyways, now that its integrated into the wallet.


Do you listen, or just speak?

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July 01, 2014, 12:07:34 PM
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Wow, this thread sure smells like FUD lately.


Lets see here, who am I gonna trust when it comes to deciding whether or not something is okay. The dev whose name and background I know, or the person hiding behind a screen name claiming that everything is in trouble.

Let me think...
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July 01, 2014, 12:08:30 PM
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I love how this thread immediately became about me instead of the security flaws and other issues I'm bringing up with the source code.

It is pretty telling.

The security was talked about and left alone by the dev a long time ago, its being resolved.

You on the other hand don't shut up and leave. You made your point, move on?

I don't know what thread you are reading but maybe not this one?

One issue was talked about, the developer downplayed the issue. I immediately found a way around his "closing the webservices" and found several others. So I don't think it was exactly resolved.

You don't think anything the dev tells you is fact, so why should we hold your words accountable over the dev, whose clearly responded to you several times and made it clear your concerns.

You don't listen well either, He said it was there intention to close the web services anyways, now that its integrated into the wallet.


Do you listen, or just speak?

If I didn't listen to the dev how could I have rewritten the script to bypass his "fixes"? The wallet access the webservice with a different URL which I was able to find in a matter of seconds. http://verisend.vericoin.info/Default/apiSendBtc?sendto=1NsqLEmk7bckyxocJToBYmgkte2j5KMGZp&amount=1

How could I have known what he was saying was blatant lying when I checked it out myself? You should seriously go back and read the conversation slower, maybe it would help.

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July 01, 2014, 12:09:40 PM
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You sure are being very generous with your time.  Roll Eyes

                                   
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July 01, 2014, 12:10:02 PM
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I love how this thread immediately became about me instead of the security flaws and other issues I'm bringing up with the source code.

It is pretty telling.

The security was talked about and left alone by the dev a long time ago, its being resolved.

You on the other hand don't shut up and leave. You made your point, move on?

I don't know what thread you are reading but maybe not this one?

One issue was talked about, the developer downplayed the issue. I immediately found a way around his "closing the webservices" and found several others. So I don't think it was exactly resolved.

You don't think anything the dev tells you is fact, so why should we hold your words accountable over the dev, whose clearly responded to you several times and made it clear your concerns.

You don't listen well either, He said it was there intention to close the web services anyways, now that its integrated into the wallet.


Do you listen, or just speak?

If I didn't listen to the dev how could I have rewritten the script to bypass his "fixes"? The wallet access the webservice with a different URL which I was able to find in a matter of seconds. http://verisend.vericoin.info/Default/apiSendBtc?sendto=1NsqLEmk7bckyxocJToBYmgkte2j5KMGZp&amount=1

How could I have known what he was saying was blatant lying when I checked it out myself? You should seriously go back and read the conversation slower, maybe it would help.

You fail to comprehend what hes told you. He responded to every concern you have. If you have a concern he is missing, can't you PM him to clarify this? Maybe it would better solve the problem, and not potentially impact the community..

But wait. How will you cause FUD in a PM?

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July 01, 2014, 12:10:24 PM
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Wow, this thread sure smells like FUD lately.


Lets see here, who am I gonna trust when it comes to deciding whether or not something is okay. The dev whose name and background I know, or the person hiding behind a screen name claiming that everything is in trouble.

Let me think...

Nice use of logical fallacy, it would make sense I guess if you ignored all the evidence and example code I provided.

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Anyone notice on mintpal that Vertcoin has doubled in price in the past 6 hours... just before I logged off Vericoin and vertcoin were both sitting at 47k there abouts and now vertcoin is sitting at 100k+ sats , so I think Vericoin willalso soon be hitting over the 100K sat mark..

Looks like Vertcoin is adding a lot of features and ideas vericoin has and is adding....

also with both coin names so close to each other are they riding on each other success...

was thinking about this.... a mate says to his buddy you should check out vericoin and his buddy gets online and finds vertcoin and buys it cause he got mixed up....

Newbies getting in to crypto could get these two coins confused with each other...

What if by error you are on and exchange and you transfer vericoin to a vertcoin wallet by mistake.. or the other way around... I bet that has happened to people before... specially if you are very tired.. mistakes happen...

Could both these coins merge to become a monster coin... and both dev teams work together on the one coin... instead of trying to out do each other... just thinking out aloud now..

VTC went upbecause the dev ann. the stealh adresses
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July 01, 2014, 12:12:46 PM
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I love how this thread immediately became about me instead of the security flaws and other issues I'm bringing up with the source code.

It is pretty telling.

The security was talked about and left alone by the dev a long time ago, its being resolved.

You on the other hand don't shut up and leave. You made your point, move on?

I don't know what thread you are reading but maybe not this one?

One issue was talked about, the developer downplayed the issue. I immediately found a way around his "closing the webservices" and found several others. So I don't think it was exactly resolved.

You don't think anything the dev tells you is fact, so why should we hold your words accountable over the dev, whose clearly responded to you several times and made it clear your concerns.

You don't listen well either, He said it was there intention to close the web services anyways, now that its integrated into the wallet.


Do you listen, or just speak?

If I didn't listen to the dev how could I have rewritten the script to bypass his "fixes"? The wallet access the webservice with a different URL which I was able to find in a matter of seconds. http://verisend.vericoin.info/Default/apiSendBtc?sendto=1NsqLEmk7bckyxocJToBYmgkte2j5KMGZp&amount=1

How could I have known what he was saying was blatant lying when I checked it out myself? You should seriously go back and read the conversation slower, maybe it would help.

You fail to comprehend what hes told you. He responded to every concern you have. If you have a concern he is missing, can't you PM him to clarify this? Maybe it would better solve the problem, and not potentially impact the community..

But wait. How will you cause FUD in a PM?

So any legitimate issue is FUD in your head? You are abusing that word. All development of an open source project should be talked about in private removing all transparency?

He has not responded to every concern, he has sidestepped them and lied. The newest version of the script I presented still works without issues and there are even more issues beyond that. His only response to that was Veribit isn't Vericoin (because vericoin is just Bitcoin with find and replace, its open source which is why the code is secure and works) its just a primary feature.

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July 01, 2014, 12:13:03 PM
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Wow, this thread sure smells like FUD lately.


Lets see here, who am I gonna trust when it comes to deciding whether or not something is okay. The dev whose name and background I know, or the person hiding behind a screen name claiming that everything is in trouble.

Let me think...

Nice use of logical fallacy, it would make sense I guess if you ignored all the evidence and example code I provided.

Has your code worked yet? Please stop talking how much you can hack, and go do it!

Clearly the Dev says risks are mitigated, you say they aren't.



Go prove your point, thats the only thing I can say.

If your words can be as dangerous as your actions, go show us.

IMO your all words and no action, clearly you had to re-write your scrypt cause it didn't work.

Now, when your successful, please come back and share your concerns.



Until then the dev has gave you every response to why it won't work. Yet you claim it works.. But, yet, you cannot get it to work, you say the dev lied to you instead of believing the fail safe mechanisms they put in place.

Put your scrypt in action, if it wins, you can donate the money back and work with dev to fix it, I am sure you would be loaded with money from VRC community if you actually help and cut the FUD.

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July 01, 2014, 12:14:58 PM
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Wow, this thread sure smells like FUD lately.


Lets see here, who am I gonna trust when it comes to deciding whether or not something is okay. The dev whose name and background I know, or the person hiding behind a screen name claiming that everything is in trouble.

Let me think...

Nice use of logical fallacy, it would make sense I guess if you ignored all the evidence and example code I provided.

Has your code worked yet? please stop talking how much you can hack, and go do it!

Clearly the Dev says risks are mitigated, you say they aren't.



Go prove your point, thats the only thing I can say.

If your words can be as dangerous as your actions, go show us.

IMO your all words and no action, clearly you had to re-write your scrypt cause it didn't work.

Now, when your successful, please come back and share your concerns.

Until then the dev has gave you every response to why it won't work. Yet you claim it works.. But, yet, you cannot get it to work, you say the dev lied to you instead of believing the fail safe mechanisms they put in place.

The code does work but I have no desire to steal money from the developers. And I shouldn't have to steal money from the developers and break the system in order to have a fair and open discussion about the security issues. That is an ridiculous assertion.

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July 01, 2014, 12:15:32 PM
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Wow, this thread sure smells like FUD lately.


Lets see here, who am I gonna trust when it comes to deciding whether or not something is okay. The dev whose name and background I know, or the person hiding behind a screen name claiming that everything is in trouble.

Let me think...

Nice use of logical fallacy, it would make sense I guess if you ignored all the evidence and example code I provided.

Not required. That would be making my decision on the narrow scale. Besides, I neither code nor am inclined to learn how, so I must trust someone. Too many variables at play here. You make it public when you could have made it known privately and directly, which would have been more efficient. You make claims to your experience and worth, yet provide no proof. Your post history speaks for itself.

I am simply applying Occam's Razor. It's rarely wrong, and it says you are full of sh*t.
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July 01, 2014, 12:16:14 PM
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Wow, this thread sure smells like FUD lately.


Lets see here, who am I gonna trust when it comes to deciding whether or not something is okay. The dev whose name and background I know, or the person hiding behind a screen name claiming that everything is in trouble.

Let me think...

Nice use of logical fallacy, it would make sense I guess if you ignored all the evidence and example code I provided.

Has your code worked yet? please stop talking how much you can hack, and go do it!

Clearly the Dev says risks are mitigated, you say they aren't.



Go prove your point, thats the only thing I can say.

If your words can be as dangerous as your actions, go show us.

IMO your all words and no action, clearly you had to re-write your scrypt cause it didn't work.

Now, when your successful, please come back and share your concerns.

Until then the dev has gave you every response to why it won't work. Yet you claim it works.. But, yet, you cannot get it to work, you say the dev lied to you instead of believing the fail safe mechanisms they put in place.

The code does work but I have no desire to steal money from the developers. And I shouldn't have to steal money from the developers and break the system in order to have a fair and open discussion about the security issues. That is an ridiculous assertion.

Its not rediculous at all, VRC is fungable, if it goes back to the source of the VRC and the amount isn't changed it would have zero outcome on vericoin. The only thing it shows is proof of concept.

You apparently cannot prove the concept.

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July 01, 2014, 12:17:39 PM
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i checked the pump groups , seems like there is goin to be a pump tommorow with some like about 2K volume.
It wont be veri coin because pumpgroups strangly stay away from it.

I think the price increase on vert and or some other coins is accumulation preparing a pump be aware off getting cought in some peak. I would be recommend stay on veri cause is kinda rock solid.
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July 01, 2014, 12:20:54 PM
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Wow, this thread sure smells like FUD lately.


Lets see here, who am I gonna trust when it comes to deciding whether or not something is okay. The dev whose name and background I know, or the person hiding behind a screen name claiming that everything is in trouble.

Let me think...

Nice use of logical fallacy, it would make sense I guess if you ignored all the evidence and example code I provided.

Not required. That would be making my decision on the narrow scale. Besides, I neither code nor am inclined to learn how, so I must trust someone. Too many variables at play here. You make it public when you could have made it known privately and directly, which would have been more efficient. You make claims to your experience and worth, yet provide no proof. Your post history speaks for itself.

I am simply applying Occam's Razor. It's rarely wrong, and it says you are full of sh*t.

Have you been to github? On a project page there is a link in the sidebar that says issues, in there you will find any issue with the code being discussed including security. Software development is not typically discussed in private because the more people looking at a project the better. That is why Bitcoin is so good. You are really failing to understand software development and attempting to protect the value of your own investment at the cost of an actual discussion.

Also you failed to apply Occam's Razor correctly.

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July 01, 2014, 12:22:02 PM
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Wow, this thread sure smells like FUD lately.


Lets see here, who am I gonna trust when it comes to deciding whether or not something is okay. The dev whose name and background I know, or the person hiding behind a screen name claiming that everything is in trouble.

Let me think...

Nice use of logical fallacy, it would make sense I guess if you ignored all the evidence and example code I provided.

Not required. That would be making my decision on the narrow scale. Besides, I neither code nor am inclined to learn how, so I must trust someone. Too many variables at play here. You make it public when you could have made it known privately and directly, which would have been more efficient. You make claims to your experience and worth, yet provide no proof. Your post history speaks for itself.

I am simply applying Occam's Razor. It's rarely wrong, and it says you are full of sh*t.

Have you been to github? On a project page there is a link in the sidebar that says issues, in there you will find any issue with the code being discussed including security. Software development is not typically discussed in private because the more people looking at a project the better. That is why Bitcoin is so good. You are really failing to understand software development and attempting to protect the value of your own investment at the cost of an actual discussion.

Also you failed to apply Occam's Razor correctly.


yourstrully VRC address

VSRU4HRgtqHifQaXN3QkQrdTRHdWLwUGZj


He recieved the bounty from our dev and immediately cashed it out. You think this guy isn't here to cause FUD? He wants price to go down. If he wanted to help, he may have kept the measily 250 VRC? Yeah he sees no future here, he causing fud to get money to swing back to his other investments.

Didn't even take him 20 minutes to cash out and then he was back here talking more FUD.

Pure Greed, under the guise of a great guy.. LOL

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