[ANN] CureCoin 2.0 is live - Mandatory Update is available now - DEC 2018

[QuintLeo]

Might depend on the card, my 1070s seem to need a bit of both for best results but more CPU than MEM.

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[wilding2004]

core speed is vastly more important. memory speed makes virtually no difference. In fact you are often better off reducing memory speed. The reason being that the decrease in heat and power can usually help with a bigger increase on the core.

I've been folding on gpu's since the the gpu1 client running on the radeon x1800xt, and I've used almost every generation of gpu since. Memory speed has never been significant to performance.

[mirny]

Thank you both for answers.
Will test it with GTX970 and GTX1070.

[Vorksholk]

Hey everyone, so that update I was talking about with our security technology:

We announced at Money 20/20 (one of the world's largest financial technology conferences) under the name VeriBlock, and we allow any blockchain to secure itself with the security of Bitcoin. Still can't say how we do it since we're semi-stealth, but here's what we're not:
-Not merged-mining
-Not existing on the Bitcoin blockchain itself

Currently two solutions exist to inherit security from Bitcoin:
Merged Mining requires that you get miners on board, and it's a sort of "fake" security, in that the opportunity cost for Bitcoin miners to attack you is very low--they can still mine Bitcoin while attacking your merge-mined chain. Additionally, you don't get the full security of Bitcoin, only the percentage of mining power you can convince to actually set up the process. It's not scalable for a lot of blockchains, because Bitcoin miners don't want to track a lot of other, lower-value blockchains to perform merged-mining anyhow.

Embedded Blockchains are embedded in the Bitcoin blockchain itself. Using the blockchain essentially requires using a modified version of the Bitcoin client which also understands the seemingly-arbitrary data embedded in Bitcoin. It's secure, but incredibly expensive to do, and also not particularly scalable (you generally end up making a Bitcoin transaction whenever you create a transaction on the embedded blockchain, because the Bitcoin blockchain needs to have data written to it).

So, we aren't those. We don't have the opportunity-cost issues of merged-mining, we don't have the scalability problems of merged-mining and embedded blockchains. We don't require Bitcoin miners to be aware or involved at all. That's a taste of what's to come.

[FifthGhostbuster]

Hey everyone, so that update I was talking about with our security technology:

We announced at Money 20/20 (one of the world's largest financial technology conferences) under the name VeriBlock, and we allow any blockchain to secure itself with the security of Bitcoin. Still can't say how we do it since we're semi-stealth, but here's what we're not:
-Not merged-mining
-Not existing on the Bitcoin blockchain itself

Currently two solutions exist to inherit security from Bitcoin:
Merged Mining requires that you get miners on board, and it's a sort of "fake" security, in that the opportunity cost for Bitcoin miners to attack you is very low--they can still mine Bitcoin while attacking your merge-mined chain. Additionally, you don't get the full security of Bitcoin, only the percentage of mining power you can convince to actually set up the process. It's not scalable for a lot of blockchains, because Bitcoin miners don't want to track a lot of other, lower-value blockchains to perform merged-mining anyhow.

Embedded Blockchains are embedded in the Bitcoin blockchain itself. Using the blockchain essentially requires using a modified version of the Bitcoin client which also understands the seemingly-arbitrary data embedded in Bitcoin. It's secure, but incredibly expensive to do, and also not particularly scalable (you generally end up making a Bitcoin transaction whenever you create a transaction on the embedded blockchain, because the Bitcoin blockchain needs to have data written to it).

So, we aren't those. We don't have the opportunity-cost issues of merged-mining, we don't have the scalability problems of merged-mining and embedded blockchains. We don't require Bitcoin miners to be aware or involved at all. That's a taste of what's to come.

Thanks for the update.

[darval]

Hey everyone,
I am a long time folder (12 years) and a pretty long time curecoin fan.  I had originally been holding coins in my bittrex wallet but earlier this year moved to hosting my own wallet on one of my linux servers.  I am trying to understand a few things about the curecoin daemon so hopefully someone can help out.

First off, my current wallet:

Code:

rick@jupiter:~$ curecoind getinfo
{
    "version" : "v0.1.3.2-gc744c10-CUR",
    "protocolversion" : 60006,
    "walletversion" : 60000,
    "balance" : 2329.94858700,
    "newmint" : 0.00000000,
    "stake" : 0.00000000,
    "blocks" : 140699,
    "moneysupply" : 23613947.16298400,
    "connections" : 42,
    "proxy" : "",
    "ip" : "xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx",
    "difficulty" : 29932073.35529361,
    "testnet" : false,
    "keypoololdest" : 1473559236,
    "keypoolsize" : 101,
    "paytxfee" : 0.00010000,
    "unlocked_until" : 2473972494,
    "errors" : ""
}

Part of what I am trying to understand is how many coins I actually have.  If I do this:

Code:

rick@jupiter:~$ curecoind listaccounts
{
    "" : 2775.51241100,
    "BFGMiner" : 0.00000000,
    "CryptoBullion" : 0.54911900
}

It shows a different number for the default account.  But if I do this:

Code:

rick@jupiter:~$ curecoind getbalance 
2329.94858700
rick@jupiter:~$ curecoind getbalance ""
2775.51241100

Which balance is accurate?  Is this two different accounts? 
And I assume this is just showing incoming coins and doesn't count the coins spent:

Code:

rick@jupiter:~$ curecoind listreceivedbyaccount
[
    {
        "account" : "",
        "amount" : 5022.70352500,
        "confirmations" : 46
    },
    {
        "account" : "CryptoBullion",
        "amount" : 792.54911900,
        "confirmations" : 119945
    }
]

I started down this path because I thought I had the coins help long enough to start seeing PoS minting but that doesn't appear to be happening although I certainly have some coins I have held for more than 30 days.

Anyway, if someone familiar with how this is supposed to work, I would appreciate some help.

Thanks!

[artoar_11]

Many donors today show "0" points. Perhaps the new coin?

[wilding2004]

Darval - it might be better to ask that question over on the Curecoin forum.

https://www.curecoin.net/forum/index.php

Unfortunately I can't help you with anything linux

[ryohazuki89]

I don't know about you guys, but I am getting wrecked on this price drop. Damn you bitcoin!

[QuintLeo]

The massive recent "new folders" fueled PPD increase is harder on income generation than the Curecoin drop from it's spikes.

 On the other hand, without the spikes we probably wouldn't HAVE the massive PPD increase.

[ryohazuki89]

Man, folding with a CPU is the worst. With an i5 I got only 50 PPD, is that normal?

I found there's an android protein folding application https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sonymobile.androidapp.gridcomputing&hl=en
Unfortunately you cannot set your identity/team/passkey in the app and generate curecoin, perhaps we should e-mail the developer to add that capability: apps@sonymobile.com

[xandry]

Man, folding with a CPU is the worst. With an i5 I got only 50 PPD, is that normal?

This is not normal. i7-4770 with six threads give me 14175 PPD. Show us some screenshots with your FAH@home configuration.

[artoar_11]

Man, folding with a CPU is the worst. With an i5 I got only 50 PPD, is that normal?

This is not normal. i7-4770 with six threads give me 14175 PPD. Show us some screenshots with your FAH@home configuration.

When you get WU from the new Core_A7 p11920 (FahCore: 0xa7) with AVX instructions, PPD is >twice more.

My i5-2500k @4200 MHz: Win7/64b
core A3/A4 projects: CPU: 3; PPD: ~10k
core A7 project: CPU: 3; PPD: ~21k
The latest Intel i7 CPUs makes ~60-70k PPD on p11920.
To avoid confusion should be told: Project: xxxx; PPD: xxxx; CPU:xxxx; CPU(active cores): X.

[QuintLeo]

I don't know about you guys, but I am getting wrecked on this price drop. Damn you bitcoin!

 Price seems to have stabelised again - and a lot of PPD seems to have moved over to Zcash while it's hot (including my Win-based machines, as I can't get a LINUX based ZCash program running for anything).

 I'm sure most will be back soon, can't see ZEC maintaining it's current crazy pricing vs. BTC

[FifthGhostbuster]

I don't know about you guys, but I am getting wrecked on this price drop. Damn you bitcoin!

 Price seems to have stabelised again - and a lot of PPD seems to have moved over to Zcash while it's hot (including my Win-based machines, as I can't get a LINUX based ZCash program running for anything).

 I'm sure most will be back soon, can't see ZEC maintaining it's current crazy pricing vs. BTC

Ppd also dropped due to the new Nvidia driver I know it fubard my machine. And now I'm not home to fix it...

[shaka256]

Anonymous transactions aren't our goal.

Nevertheless Zcash score a point:

Privacy is a human right

We believe that personal privacy is necessary for core human values like dignity, intimacy, and morality.

Privacy is about consent. You have the right to choose which of your movements, words, and actions will be shared or published. You have the right to choose whether every detail of your life will be recorded and analyzed, by acquaintances, neighbors, family, employers, faceless organizations, or massive supercomputers.

Privacy is necessary for businesses

Companies need privacy in order to conduct their business. This is true for all sorts of companies, in all sorts of businesses.

Banks and their customers absolutely require privacy in their financial transactions.

[ryohazuki89]

Anonymous transactions aren't our goal.

Nevertheless Zcash score a point:

Privacy is a human right

We believe that personal privacy is necessary for core human values like dignity, intimacy, and morality.

Privacy is about consent. You have the right to choose which of your movements, words, and actions will be shared or published. You have the right to choose whether every detail of your life will be recorded and analyzed, by acquaintances, neighbors, family, employers, faceless organizations, or massive supercomputers.

Privacy is necessary for businesses

Companies need privacy in order to conduct their business. This is true for all sorts of companies, in all sorts of businesses.

Banks and their customers absolutely require privacy in their financial transactions.

Wouldn't anonymous transactions  certainly disturb the "trustworthiness" of the transparent centralization that curecoin is trying to achieve? Regardless, I don't see why a curecoin tumbler can't simply be designed when the time comes.

[QuintLeo]

I don't know about you guys, but I am getting wrecked on this price drop. Damn you bitcoin!

 Price seems to have stabelised again - and a lot of PPD seems to have moved over to Zcash while it's hot (including my Win-based machines, as I can't get a LINUX based ZCash program running for anything).

 I'm sure most will be back soon, can't see ZEC maintaining it's current crazy pricing vs. BTC

Ppd also dropped due to the new Nvidia driver I know it fubard my machine. And now I'm not home to fix it...

 375.90 is junk.
 I made the mistake of trying that one on my new 3-card build.
 Makes the ENTIRE machine unstable, lots of artifacts, even though it's running with an AMD A10 and even when the screen is hooked to the APU it gets artifacts under that junk driver (the AMD-run display should NOT be affected by a NVidia driver at all).

 I think most of my machines, possibly all of them, are running 372.70 'cause it WORKS and is stable.


 This kind if issue is why I REFUSE to install that "Nvidia Experience" junk, or allow the AMD equivilent to do "automatic updates" - too often the "update" BREAKS WORKING MACHINES.

[cygnusxi]

I don't know about you guys, but I am getting wrecked on this price drop. Damn you bitcoin!

 Price seems to have stabelised again - and a lot of PPD seems to have moved over to Zcash while it's hot (including my Win-based machines, as I can't get a LINUX based ZCash program running for anything).

 I'm sure most will be back soon, can't see ZEC maintaining it's current crazy pricing vs. BTC

Ppd also dropped due to the new Nvidia driver I know it fubard my machine. And now I'm not home to fix it...

 375.90 is junk.
 I made the mistake of trying that one on my new 3-card build.
 Makes the ENTIRE machine unstable, lots of artifacts, even though it's running with an AMD A10 and even when the screen is hooked to the APU it gets artifacts under that junk driver (the AMD-run display should NOT be affected by a NVidia driver at all).

 I think most of my machines, possibly all of them, are running 372.70 'cause it WORKS and is stable.


 This kind if issue is why I REFUSE to install that "Nvidia Experience" junk, or allow the AMD equivilent to do "automatic updates" - too often the "update" BREAKS WORKING MACHINES.

The new nvidia driver is indeed crap. I'm moving my folding machines all over to server linux, and trying to document / streamline the process so I can post some updated easy quick start instructions that work with newer versions of linux. I had only one on linux before and it was mainly for an old beta test I was doing with core 20 (or 21) . It was called o-core when we tested it and afaik it is now what the android app uses to deliver a "streaming" work unit. As mentioned above there is a known demand for the app to be able to use a folding name / team etc. If you want to ask kindly to those who produce the app we may get an answer if enough interested individuals send the request.

[cygnusxi]

So I was silent on the forums for the last week. Just got back from my one good vacation I make sure to take once a year in Toronto and Niagara Falls. I had hoped to get the win client to everyone before I left but the trip was planned for some time and I had to wrap things up before I left. I did manage to open my laptop a couple times and we do now have an updated windows client (sorry no mac update yet).

Link to windows Curecoin client 1.3.3
https://github.com/cygnusxi/CurecoinSource/blob/master/releases/Curecoin-0.1.3.3-win-portable.zip

Other releases
https://github.com/cygnusxi/CurecoinSource/blob/master/releases/

The new update is not a mandatory update but rather a strong recommendation to upgrade. Before I left there were some talks of the old logo being ok for some people, so feel free to choose a client for now with whichever logo you prefer. I will repackage the new win client with the old logos soon to leave the choice out there.

The spikes and drops for price and PPD are both moving all over the place right now. The recent nvidia driver mess obviously did not help as some have pointed out. I've only heard of the zcash and not researched it but it sounds like its having a spike as well. BTC climbing I think is a good thing in the long run for all crypto currencies. Bitcoin is gateway via which many people stumble onto Curecoin, so eventually that will turn into a few more folders.

I'll be catching up on the curecoin.net forum and other messages this week. I plan on attending 2 meetings with the foldingcoin team this weekend.

In the mean time team curecoin is still producing a very respectable amount of research. We will have an update posted on curecoin.net soon about the recent achievement of rank #3 in the world and some other accomplishments you may not have heard of.