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June 24, 2014, 01:24:33 PM |
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any chance of getting your wisdom on why it is a pump and dump now
Because BTC lives off of hype and speculation ... or in your words, "pump and dumps." It is not a viable currency that can replace fiat. But maybe other cryptocurrency in the future can with the proper structure, and that is another reason why we speculate on alt coins, we are looking for the next crypto to replace ltc and perhaps btc in the future. LOL! so when I ask you why BTC is a pump dump you answer is that : its "Because BTC lives off of hype and speculation ... or in your words, "pump and dumps." So your answer seems to be that its a pump and dump, because its a pump and dump. good answer I never said it was "a viable currency that could replace fiat", what gave you that idea, of course a crypto currency will never fully replace fiat? EDIT: I gotta go away now, but I will be back in a few hours. just incase you ask me a question while im gone and think I cant answer it I've just realized I've been talking to a complete idiot, wow. Then again its teh intarnetz.
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June 24, 2014, 01:29:01 PM |
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Is there a list of all the people who are part of the cryptcoin team?
no, but maybe we should start one. from all the chatlogs I have I can pull quite a lot of names. Ill start the list off small, others can add to it if they wish. they use lots of different alias's so its hard to tell who is who sometimes. Im not sure if all these people were involved in this coin but they are all in the pump and dump groups chat logs . these are some of the early members. could have all changed by now. MoosaNYC Boomsling Koolio Paulgr Pr0m3theus2013 (aka dan aka Prometheus lightbearer etc) Smille Halfcab123 tristar tek BlackBerryCubed Attious (not a member anymore) John Gant (not a member anymore) Lynchy AU Gaming Unleashed Jerry Littlemars Enron II etc There are more in the group too.. I think that there may be different "teams" (or groups). One team is p&d group (MoosaNYC, koolio etc.). And another group may be dev team, which may or may not also include hired freelancers (MindFox may be in separate "team"). The interests and roles of these teams may not be identical.
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June 24, 2014, 01:33:06 PM |
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June 24, 2014, 01:41:47 PM |
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Let's imagine that this coin was invented by a pump and dump group for the sole purpose of hyping it up and then dumping it on the buyers. Let's imagine that there is actually no real development behind the scenes. Let's imagine that all the FUD spread around in this thread is actually true. Let's imagine this all for a second. Now, the interesting part. Let's imagine that you do not hold a single CryptCoin but you do want to warn people not to get burned by Crypt. If you are really a good samaritan as you think you are, you would have probably made your point in this thread once or twice and left. Because you have no other business here right? So, could anyone please explain to me why a few users have posted more on this thread than the actual holders of Crypt? Think about it. Why would somebody put so much time and effort in bashing Crypt? Think think think And finally. I am holding Crypt. Many of us do. We do not want your advice. We do not want your help. We certainly do not need your lies. Of course, there are some valid points made by some users. The team behind the coin is unknown? I don't give a fck. The team is supposed to be a pump and dump group? I don't give a fck. The Commander is not finished yet? I don't give a fck. The project is not released yet? I don't give a fck. The coin is not really anonymous? I don't give a fck. The coin is not going to be added to btc-e? I don't give a fck. So WTF do you care? Now please, leave me and my precious CryptCoins alone and GTFO Thank you very much.
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June 24, 2014, 01:43:32 PM |
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Let's imagine that this coin was invented by a pump and dump group for the sole purpose of hyping it up and then dumping it on the buyers. Let's imagine that there is actually no real development behind the screens. Let's imagine that all the FUD spread around in this thread is actually true. Let's imagine this all for a second. Now, the interesting part. Let's imagine that you do not hold a single CryptCoin but you do want to warn people not to get burned by Crypt. If you are really a good samaritan as you think you are, you would have probably made your point in this thread once or twice and left. Because you have no other business here right? So, could anyone please explain to me why a few users have posted more on this thread than the actual holders of Crypt? Think about it. Why would somebody put so much time and effort in bashing Crypt? Think think think And finally. I am holding Crypt. Many of us do. We do not want your advice. We do not want your help. We certainly do not need your lies. Of course, there are some valid points made by some users. The team behind the coin is unknown? I don't give a fck. The team is supposed to be a pump and dump group? I don't give a fck. The Commander is not finished yet? I don't give a fck. The project is not released yet? I don't give a fck. The coin is not really anonymous? I don't give a fck. The coin is not going to be added to btc-e? I don't give a fck. So WTF do you care? Now please, leave me and my precious CryptCoins alone and GTFO Thank you very much. oh yeah, I forgot to put you on the member list. thanks for reminding me.
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June 24, 2014, 01:45:15 PM |
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oh yeah, I forgot to put you on the member list. thanks for reminding me. Put me on top of the list please. I am not just a member. I am the actual founder of CryptCoin
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June 24, 2014, 01:46:04 PM |
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but maybe some people do care that this coin was created by the leader of a pump and dump team, you don't, thats fine.
And? why we have to care about it? that prove nothing about the bad / good futur of this coin... You need to learn the science and how work our brain.
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June 24, 2014, 01:47:02 PM |
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but maybe some people do care that this coin was created by the leader of a pump and dump team, you don't, thats fine.
And? why we have to care about it? that prove nothing about the bad / good futur of this coin... You need to learn the science and how work our brain. you don't have to care about it.
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June 24, 2014, 01:48:30 PM |
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oh yeah, I forgot to put you on the member list. thanks for reminding me. Put me on top of the list please. I am not just a member. I am the actual founder of CryptCoin well MoosaNYC claimed it on trollbox that was his personal project not connected to the group. so I don't know which one of you created it, one of you must be lying, and I don't care which one either. If this is not connected to the group isn't it strange that you are all here.
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June 24, 2014, 01:49:01 PM |
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June 24, 2014, 01:53:43 PM Last edit: June 24, 2014, 02:22:27 PM by biskyb33 |
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yes, I'm an amateur. this was my first coin ...I had been doing my research, including reading posts and had yet to witness melodrama like this. what I see going on is seriously detrimental to the cryptocurrency world in general. is it just me or has trading volume froze and dropped in the last couple of days throughout the currencies? has this conversation really rippled throughout the whole crypto-investment world? who is going to take any of this seriously anymore? these guys have taken a market with fantastic potential and its already precarious credibility and comprised it. hopefully it will heal sooner than later. I wish I could find the post, but someone listed twitter accounts where this coin was strongly supported (kryptokoolio, moosanyc, and ninja trader). I did not know of their affiliation at the time but I hate to admit that it was those twitters that made me decide to buy into the coin. very hard lesson to learn. I am totally embarrassed for being a sucker!
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June 24, 2014, 01:54:44 PM |
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yes, I'm an amateur. this was my first coin ...I had been doing my research, including reading posts and had yet to witness melodrama like this. what I see going on is seriously detrimental to the cryptocurrency world in general. is it just me or has trading volume froze and dropped in the last couple of days throughout the currencies? has this conversation really rippled throughout the whole crypto-investment world? who is going to take any of this seriously anymore? these guys have taken a market with fantastic potential and its already precarious credibility. hopefully it will heal sooner than later. I wish I could find the post, but someone listed twitter accounts where this coin was strongly supported (kryptokoolio, moosanyc, and ninja trader). I did not know of their affiliation at the time but I hate to admit that it was those twitters that made me decide to buy into the coin. very hard lesson to learn. I am totally embarrassed for being a sucker!
Lesson 1: don`t believe any fucker
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June 24, 2014, 01:59:22 PM |
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yes, I'm an amateur. this was my first coin ...I had been doing my research, including reading posts and had yet to witness melodrama like this. what I see going on is seriously detrimental to the cryptocurrency world in general. is it just me or has trading volume froze and dropped in the last couple of days throughout the currencies? has this conversation really rippled throughout the whole crypto-investment world? who is going to take any of this seriously anymore? these guys have taken a market with fantastic potential and its already precarious credibility. hopefully it will heal sooner than later. I wish I could find the post, but someone listed twitter accounts where this coin was strongly supported (kryptokoolio, moosanyc, and ninja trader). I did not know of their affiliation at the time but I hate to admit that it was those twitters that made me decide to buy into the coin. very hard lesson to learn. I am totally embarrassed for being a sucker!
Apparently you haven't done enough research. This is the world of alt coins, almost every coin is pumped and dumped to an extent. Only smart money wins, you don't have to be part of a pump and dump group to win, just basic trading knowledge is needed to maximize wins and minimize losses. You should not blame a coin for your inexperience in investing/trading. Go to the stock market and you'll probably have the same outcome, maybe worse.
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June 24, 2014, 02:03:04 PM |
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yes, I'm an amateur. this was my first coin ...I had been doing my research, including reading posts and had yet to witness melodrama like this. what I see going on is seriously detrimental to the cryptocurrency world in general. is it just me or has trading volume froze and dropped in the last couple of days throughout the currencies? has this conversation really rippled throughout the whole crypto-investment world? who is going to take any of this seriously anymore? these guys have taken a market with fantastic potential and its already precarious credibility. hopefully it will heal sooner than later. I wish I could find the post, but someone listed twitter accounts where this coin was strongly supported (kryptokoolio, moosanyc, and ninja trader). I did not know of their affiliation at the time but I hate to admit that it was those twitters that made me decide to buy into the coin. very hard lesson to learn. I am totally embarrassed for being a sucker!
Apparently you haven't done enough research. This is the world of alt coins, almost every coin is pumped and dumped to an extent. Only smart money wins, you don't have to be part of a pump and dump group to win, just basic trading knowledge is needed to maximize wins and minimize losses. You should not blame a coin for your inexperience in investing/trading. Go to the stock market and you'll probably have the same outcome, maybe worse. Yeah, but it is hard even for experienced traders to take into account black swan events ("rogue dev" or maybe even this "security analysis") that can crash market in matter of seconds.
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June 24, 2014, 02:06:23 PM Last edit: June 24, 2014, 02:19:23 PM by Megalodon |
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yes, I'm an amateur. this was my first coin ...I had been doing my research, including reading posts and had yet to witness melodrama like this. what I see going on is seriously detrimental to the cryptocurrency world in general. is it just me or has trading volume froze and dropped in the last couple of days throughout the currencies? has this conversation really rippled throughout the whole crypto-investment world? who is going to take any of this seriously anymore? these guys have taken a market with fantastic potential and its already precarious credibility. hopefully it will heal sooner than later. I wish I could find the post, but someone listed twitter accounts where this coin was strongly supported (kryptokoolio, moosanyc, and ninja trader). I did not know of their affiliation at the time but I hate to admit that it was those twitters that made me decide to buy into the coin. very hard lesson to learn. I am totally embarrassed for being a sucker!
Apparently you haven't done enough research. This is the world of alt coins, almost every coin is pumped and dumped to an extent. Only smart money wins, you don't have to be part of a pump and dump group to win, just basic trading knowledge is needed to maximize wins and minimize losses. You should not blame a coin for your inexperience in investing/trading. Go to the stock market and you'll probably have the same outcome, maybe worse. Yeah, but it is hard even for experienced traders to account for black swan events ("rogue dev" or maybe even this "security analysis") that can crash market in matter of seconds. Shit happens, but it wasn't even really a dev. Mindfox is the main dev to deliver anon feature.
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June 24, 2014, 02:17:38 PM |
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christ who decided to argue with the talking walnut altcoin police. Here to protect everybody from making money like a true citizen of dipshitland. Hey newsflash genius, if your right and this team is a pump and dump special forces team good, who better to get the price where it should be if it were not for the retard brigade running all over the internet yelling scam like a tourettes guy on adderal. God i'm tired of you morons and your attitude like you fucking run bitcoin. Get in or get out nobody fucking cares dude. There is a way people ask questions when they want real answers and then are are people that are just being dicks, you are not a ninja. We see you.
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June 24, 2014, 02:23:22 PM |
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christ who decided to argue with the talking walnut altcoin police. Here to protect everybody from making money like a true citizen of dipshitland. Hey newsflash genius, if your right and this team is a pump and dump special forces team good, who better to get the price where it should be if it were not for the retard brigade running all over the internet yelling scam like a tourettes guy on adderal. God i'm tired of you morons and your attitude like you fucking run bitcoin. Get in or get out nobody fucking cares dude. There is a way people ask questions when they want real answers and then are are people that are just being dicks, you are not a ninja. We see you.
Just don't feed the trolls anymore, they're too busy spreading FUD for them to buy cheaper, why else would they consistently post FUD if they're not going to invest on the coin. The devs are working on upcoming updates as promised.
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June 24, 2014, 02:28:35 PM |
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not a troll here. I'm an investor. We were told yesterday that Commander would be release last night, Where is commander?
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June 24, 2014, 02:34:13 PM |
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christ who decided to argue with the talking walnut altcoin police. Here to protect everybody from making money like a true citizen of dipshitland. Hey newsflash genius, if your right and this team is a pump and dump special forces team good, who better to get the price where it should be if it were not for the retard brigade running all over the internet yelling scam like a tourettes guy on adderal. God i'm tired of you morons and your attitude like you fucking run bitcoin. Get in or get out nobody fucking cares dude. There is a way people ask questions when they want real answers and then are are people that are just being dicks, you are not a ninja. We see you.
Just don't feed the trolls anymore, they're too busy spreading FUD for them to buy cheaper, why else would they consistently post FUD if they're not going to invest on the coin. The devs are working on upcoming updates as promised. Maybe some of the forum members spread "FUD" for other reasons, not just for buying cheap coins. Maybe they don't want to see that noobs are constantly being burned because they believe some guys with their own hidden agenda?
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