[ANN][CRYPT] CryptCoin x11 + PoS | P2P Anonymity | 0% Premine | Commander

[GaliX]

Has this coin always been marketed as "almost impossible to trace" , to me im not sure if its worth it, there are many "almost" solutions, I can swap coins with a friend if I wanted "almost" , I thought the whole thing with this coin was that it was going to be anonymous, "almost anonymous" doesn't sound as catchy.

Bitcoin is also almost anonymous.

Bitcoin is not even close to being anonymous.

"almost" is an elastic term. You can actually achiev quiet some anonymity with bitcoin itself.

I don't think that any of technologies that are currently developed by altcoin devs will provide anything that will prevent blockchain anaylsis (zero-knowledge-proof coins could become close to this, haven't studied them enough, but they seem to use the tool that might be right for the kind of job).

I was talking in general. Bitcoin is anonymous compared to Credit Cards/Wire Transfers or other money transmittings.

To me the Darkcoin approach looks the most promissing to get true anonymity somewhen.

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[adaseb]

The 50 BTC bid wall didn't get pulled, seems like a genuine bid.

Im going long here to average down my long position from 0.000625.

Very tight stop and will sell very agressively. Not good for a long term long.

Got out at 0.008500 which was the previous support.

Was going to rebuy but didn't like the price action.

Honestly its turning into XC.


Pain in the ass trading this. Bought at 199, had to average down at 150, then 90, then 62, and then 48. Fully got out at a profit at 8500


Good luck to you all but I would look into scaling out some positions.

[BackseatTS]

Good on you

[pbremen01]

I was talking in general. Bitcoin is anonymous compared to Credit Cards/Wire Transfers or other money transmittings.

To me the Darkcoin approach looks the most promissing to get true anonymity somewhen.

You probably won't get any kind of "true" anonymity from DarkSend. In current whitepaper there are too many edge cases when the blockchain analysis allows finding which output belong to which inputs with very high probability. DarkSend by itself really doesn't prevent reuse of addresses and doesn't prevent linking different addresses to the same wallet (user).

DarkCoin implements CoinJoin concept. For example, in some implementations of CoinJoin it is even possible to determine which outputs belong to which inputs by eyeballing:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/27rsv8/confirmed_blockchaininfo_shared_coin_is_broken/

DarkSend will make blockchain analysis just "harder", but still far from impossible.

[Bitcycle]

Where's Commander?

Why do you care? You are not holding CRYPT.

Holders are patiently waiting for good things to come.

+10

So....

You're saying Commander wasn't delivered as promised.

Failcoin.

[Bitcycle]

Another over-promise, under-deliver coin.

Yawn.

You don't even know who the team members are.  It's some random group of anonymous people.  Good luck with that.

Come to real coins making real progress.

This was pump-n-dump, and it was dumped already.

Don't forget- the "rogue" dev is still out there with all the coins he bought cheap, waiting to dump at any moment.

[Shkembe]

Another over-promise, under-deliver coin.

Yawn.

You don't even know who the team members are.  It's some random group of anonymous people.  Good luck with that.

Come to real coins making real progress.

This was pump-n-dump, and it was dumped already.

Don't forget- the "rogue" dev is still out there with all the coins he bought cheap, waiting to dump at any moment.

When someone says "Good luck" that means he leaves the thread...that is the best you can do, I apreciate that.

[Perl++]

Another over-promise, under-deliver coin.

Yawn.

You don't even know who the team members are.  It's some random group of anonymous people.  Good luck with that.

Come to real coins making real progress.

This was pump-n-dump, and it was dumped already.

Don't forget- the "rogue" dev is still out there with all the coins he bought cheap, waiting to dump at any moment.

Ok but we don't care, it's your problem if you are a FBI agent and you want to know who is behind this coin.

Non-anonymous devs are corrupted by the FBI.

If you are not a FBI agent then your mentality is pretty childish and if you are a FBI agent then your skill is pretty bad  

[pbremen01]

Non-anonymous devs are corrupted by the FBI.

Any proof?

[abercrombie]

Has this coin always been marketed as "almost impossible to trace" , to me im not sure if its worth it, there are many "almost" solutions, I can swap coins with a friend if I wanted "almost" , I thought the whole thing with this coin was that it was going to be anonymous, "almost anonymous" doesn't sound as catchy.

Bitcoin is also almost anonymous.

Bitcoin is not even close to being anonymous.

Bitcoin is pseudo-anonymous like an IP address.  If you use TOR, it's very very difficult to trace an IP address.  If you use TOR at a public Internet cafe, then you become acceptably anonymous.

If you buy Bitcoins from Local Bitcoins, run it through a mixer and send it to an online exchange to buy LTC, then move the LTC to another exchange and buy BTC, then it's going to be nearly impossible to track to an individual especially in small amounts.   The BTC/LTC conversions may not even be necessary, but would help for resisting taint analysis.

[Mexican]

you know what TOR can't hide though? your MAC address...

[DavidWongThe2nd]

Since the devs have abandoned this coin, I am taking it over.  First order of business.  I ask that Mindfox stay on board.  I have reviewed his past and feel confident that he is a genuinely talented coder.  Name your price sir.   PM me and we can talk payment.  This is not a joke.  I have funds available to support this coin and a talented team who is ready to take over all related accounts.  I fight corruption and embrace anonymity.  My name is David, you can call me Hood.  Nice to meet you.  Updates will follow.  No more silence.

[Mexican]

SUCH HILARIOUS

[DeViL303]

you know what TOR can't hide though? your MAC address...

MAC spoofing is not that hard, but most people don't bother right now.

http://www.wikihow.com/Spoof-a-MAC-Address

 

[pbremen01]

Has this coin always been marketed as "almost impossible to trace" , to me im not sure if its worth it, there are many "almost" solutions, I can swap coins with a friend if I wanted "almost" , I thought the whole thing with this coin was that it was going to be anonymous, "almost anonymous" doesn't sound as catchy.

Bitcoin is also almost anonymous.

Bitcoin is not even close to being anonymous.

Bitcoin is pseudo-anonymous like an IP address.  If you use TOR, it's very very difficult to trace an IP address.  If you use TOR at a public Internet cafe, then you become acceptably anonymous.

If you buy Bitcoins from Local Bitcoins, run it through a mixer and send it to an online exchange for LTC, move it to another exchange and buy BTC, then it's going to be nearly impossible to track to an individual especially in small amounts.

If you use TOR, then it becomes very hard to establish link bitcoin (address) <-> IP address. This doesn't mean that you can't be identified as an individual (you're not anonymous in this sense).

Bitcoins are anonymous in the sense that data stored in blockchain actually means nothing (its only numbers). But as soon as some "objects" (wallet addresses, transactions, maybe even off blockchain transactions on exchanges etc.) can be linked to you, you become vulnerable. If somebody is interested in you, it can start tracking you starting with this "object".

Most people will sooner or later leave something on the internet that can be used to link some "objects" to them.

For example, If you want to spend your final bitcoins or if you try to sell them for USD and withdraw your money, you will probably have to reveal your identity (to an exchange or to a merchant etc.).

Mixers may store logs and they can be even forced to store them because they get orders from the authorities (courts etc.). Exchanges store logs by default and they can also be forced to reveal info about you or your transactions. In fact, more and more exchanges demand that you send them copies of ID cards etc.

The guy that sells you bitcoins via local bitcoins can also be tracked by similar means.

Most people do security mistakes sometimes (for example, they forget to use tor one single time, they make mistakes when sending bitcoins and they create transaction which accidentally "links" two different addresses etc).

So if somebody has enough resources and motivation, it is very likely that your identity can be revealed. The question is if you're important enough that somebody will use their (limited) resources to track you.

[pbremen01]

you know what TOR can't hide though? your MAC address...

It seems that you're somehow mixing different layers in OSI model.

MAC address is important only in your local network (LAN). Your MAC address is not visible or accessible outside your local network anyway, no matter whether you use TOR or not.

But whether the local network should be trusted or not is another question.

[tylerderden]

I am just_me

Look, I was involved with gldcoin, and I remember how gldcoin works.

I remember his methods, and I remember his mannerism.



trust me, ccryptcoin looks just like gldcoin did.


I would swear its the same person, I even said out loud.


But gldcoin has mutated and grown, and changed over time.

Now you see what gldcoin(the person who used that alt name anyways) has become.

gldcoin is ccryptcoin

ccryptcoin is gldcoin


Microguy told us he had to threaten gldcoin with real world police,

and Microguy knows who gldcoin is/was, so Microguy knows who ccryptcoin is as well.

So, we can find out who ccryptcoin really is, if my theory is correct



Trust me, gldcoin is ccryptcoin, and this same person is only interested in making some btc

and moving on to other things, and has no interest at all in the future of the coin.

gldcoin/ccryptcoin lacks the social skills to do that, so he just dumps all his premined coins,
and although able to program and make coins and do other technical stuff, he will not
stick with the coin.

Its the same person.

First trust me should not be in your vocabulary dude, also cryptowest and mindfox have been around for awhile and both are solid guys, i don't know about anybody else involved but your way off on your delusion with those 2. I don't see either of them trashing their rep with more coins being created and opportunities always on the horizon. Whatever your on send me some, i want to be so high and paranoid i'm convinced all coins are made by one imaginary multi-personality guy. I hear Project Mayhem is recruiting though if you think you have the sack for it.

[pbremen01]

Since the devs have abandoned this coin, I am taking it over.  First order of business.  I ask that Mindfox stay on board.  I have reviewed his past and feel confident that he is a genuinely talented coder.  Name your price sir.   PM me and we can talk payment.  This is not a joke.  I have funds available to support this coin and a talented team who is ready to take over all related accounts.  I fight corruption and embrace anonymity.  My name is David, you can call me Hood.  Nice to meet you.  Updates will follow.  No more silence.

Is this a joke?

Why don't you just create completely new coins? New coins are made daily. Why do you want to use coin with such "history" and probably not-so-excellent reputation?

Mindfox is freelancer, he will work on any coin if you pay him. He is not "tied" to cryptcoin AFAIK.

EDIT: How do you know that devs abandoned this coin? Did I miss something?




 

[DeViL303]

I heard pastebin is getting new servers, just to deal with moosanyc and his group.  

this is from 2 days ago.

16:53] <halfcab123> and Prom is planning to write a ltter to btc-e

I think its a bit late for letters guys

http://pastebin.com/NtE0ghfu


looks like fontas is involved in crypt too if that can be believed.  

11.[16:53] <halfcab123> plus there might be a pump, i stress might


12.[16:53] <halfcab123> but prom mentioned loading the bot up with 60 btc


13.[16:53] <halfcab123> Yeah Prom mentioned they are going to whale it


14.[16:54] <CryptMyRide> well i take it 50-60k is bottom right now? Knowing what you know, hold?


15.[16:56] <CryptMyRide> btw ur inner circle that u had to pay for, i take it they are a group of whales?


16.[16:56] <halfcab123> how much are you holding ?


17.[16:56] <CryptMyRide> whats the pre-resiquite to get in?


18.[16:56] <CryptMyRide> im interested


19.[16:56] <CryptMyRide> 24k


20.[16:57] <CryptMyRide> id lose money if i sold now


21.[16:59] <CryptMyRide> btw is fontas still on this? i heard koolio bailed


22.[16:59] <halfcab123> We actually just talked to koolio


23.[16:59] <halfcab123> he popped in.. 30 min ago


24.[16:59] <halfcab123> Now he's saying he's staying


25.[16:59] <halfcab123> go figure


26.[17:00] <CryptMyRide> thats good news


27.[17:00] <CryptMyRide> and fontas?


28.[17:00] <halfcab123> fontas is in asia partying

there is more too. do they all use pastebin to communicate or what?

[DavidWongThe2nd]

Why this coin?  It represents all that I despise.  Follow on twitter for updates.