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Author Topic: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin"  (Read 1149002 times)
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April 21, 2016, 05:53:19 PM
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how the fuk u mine this?>?
You dont mine it you stake it since its a POS coin.
To learn more about proof of stake check OP or FAQ of just-dice.com
This guy is making mobile staking wallets : 
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1065204.0
The cost is two BTC so i tought maybe the community would do a crowdfunding.
This address is owned by SebastianJu that will act as escrow for the funds to be raised
18Me4dCRBPvHQnuqsQPFWzcGTnJsUHpa1E
Also he left this jd uid for clams 1418619.

Edit: Seems that price is reduced to 1 btc, i kinda missed it, total crowdfund should be of 1.025 btc so we can cover little for seba too.
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Ok, I am tired of Clam not having a mobile wallet so here goes. I have 500 CLAM for anyone that develops a working Android wallet with basic wallet functionality in a 'Clam design' (as per the desktop wallet). I am primarily looking for bids from Developers wanting to take on the project. Must have references from previous mobile wallet creation.

I messaged him. Willing to front the Bitcoin for the wallet, and take donations after or whatever.

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April 27, 2016, 03:31:35 PM
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how the fuk u mine this?>?
You dont mine it you stake it since its a POS coin.
To learn more about proof of stake check OP or FAQ of just-dice.com
This guy is making mobile staking wallets : 
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1065204.0
The cost is two BTC so i tought maybe the community would do a crowdfunding.
This address is owned by SebastianJu that will act as escrow for the funds to be raised
18Me4dCRBPvHQnuqsQPFWzcGTnJsUHpa1E
Also he left this jd uid for clams 1418619.

Edit: Seems that price is reduced to 1 btc, i kinda missed it, total crowdfund should be of 1.025 btc so we can cover little for seba too.
^


Ok, I am tired of Clam not having a mobile wallet so here goes. I have 500 CLAM for anyone that develops a working Android wallet with basic wallet functionality in a 'Clam design' (as per the desktop wallet). I am primarily looking for bids from Developers wanting to take on the project. Must have references from previous mobile wallet creation.

I messaged him. Willing to front the Bitcoin for the wallet, and take donations after or whatever.

The developer of Staking mobile wallets is currently too busy to take on assignments. If anyone else has a contact for this please post here or PM me.

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April 27, 2016, 06:52:13 PM
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how the fuk u mine this?>?
You dont mine it you stake it since its a POS coin.
To learn more about proof of stake check OP or FAQ of just-dice.com
This guy is making mobile staking wallets : 
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1065204.0
The cost is two BTC so i tought maybe the community would do a crowdfunding.
This address is owned by SebastianJu that will act as escrow for the funds to be raised
18Me4dCRBPvHQnuqsQPFWzcGTnJsUHpa1E
Also he left this jd uid for clams 1418619.

Edit: Seems that price is reduced to 1 btc, i kinda missed it, total crowdfund should be of 1.025 btc so we can cover little for seba too.
^


Ok, I am tired of Clam not having a mobile wallet so here goes. I have 500 CLAM for anyone that develops a working Android wallet with basic wallet functionality in a 'Clam design' (as per the desktop wallet). I am primarily looking for bids from Developers wanting to take on the project. Must have references from previous mobile wallet creation.

I messaged him. Willing to front the Bitcoin for the wallet, and take donations after or whatever.

The developer of Staking mobile wallets is currently too busy to take on assignments. If anyone else has a contact for this please post here or PM me.
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I'm trying to search everywhere. Is there a certain percentage you earn from staking clam or is it just random? Thanks


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April 28, 2016, 04:50:49 AM
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I'm trying to search everywhere. Is there a certain percentage you earn from staking clam or is it just random? Thanks

1 CLAM stake reward is paid per minute (1440/day), distributed across all the coins staking. The latter varies but is usually around 1-1.5 million. Divide your stake by that number and multiply by 1440 to tell how much per day you would expect. Last I calculated it was around 3% per month, but that might be out of date by now.

Example: with 1000 CLAM staking by you and assume 1 million CLAM total staking on the network you should get 1/1000 of the rewards or 1.44 CLAM/day. Of course randomly it could be less or more than this on any given day.

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April 28, 2016, 12:25:09 PM
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I'm trying to search everywhere. Is there a certain percentage you earn from staking clam or is it just random? Thanks

1 CLAM stake reward is paid per minute (1440/day), distributed across all the coins staking. The latter varies but is usually around 1-1.5 million. Divide your stake by that number and multiply by 1440 to tell how much per day you would expect. Last I calculated it was around 3% per month, but that might be out of date by now.

Example: with 1000 CLAM staking by you and assume 1 million CLAM total staking on the network you should get 1/1000 of the rewards or 1.44 CLAM/day. Of course randomly it could be less or more than this on any given day.



where I can find the total number of staking clams?

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April 28, 2016, 12:36:44 PM
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I'm trying to search everywhere. Is there a certain percentage you earn from staking clam or is it just random? Thanks

1 CLAM stake reward is paid per minute (1440/day), distributed across all the coins staking. The latter varies but is usually around 1-1.5 million. Divide your stake by that number and multiply by 1440 to tell how much per day you would expect. Last I calculated it was around 3% per month, but that might be out of date by now.

Example: with 1000 CLAM staking by you and assume 1 million CLAM total staking on the network you should get 1/1000 of the rewards or 1.44 CLAM/day. Of course randomly it could be less or more than this on any given day.



where I can find the total number of staking clams?

Use the getstakinginfo command in the wallet. If you are using the Qt wallet you might have to find the debug window.

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April 28, 2016, 12:49:35 PM
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I'm trying to search everywhere. Is there a certain percentage you earn from staking clam or is it just random? Thanks

1 CLAM stake reward is paid per minute (1440/day), distributed across all the coins staking. The latter varies but is usually around 1-1.5 million. Divide your stake by that number and multiply by 1440 to tell how much per day you would expect. Last I calculated it was around 3% per month, but that might be out of date by now.

Example: with 1000 CLAM staking by you and assume 1 million CLAM total staking on the network you should get 1/1000 of the rewards or 1.44 CLAM/day. Of course randomly it could be less or more than this on any given day.



where I can find the total number of staking clams?

Use the getstakinginfo command in the wallet. If you are using the Qt wallet you might have to find the debug window.



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is in second or minutes?

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April 28, 2016, 12:53:11 PM
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I'm trying to search everywhere. Is there a certain percentage you earn from staking clam or is it just random? Thanks

1 CLAM stake reward is paid per minute (1440/day), distributed across all the coins staking. The latter varies but is usually around 1-1.5 million. Divide your stake by that number and multiply by 1440 to tell how much per day you would expect. Last I calculated it was around 3% per month, but that might be out of date by now.

Example: with 1000 CLAM staking by you and assume 1 million CLAM total staking on the network you should get 1/1000 of the rewards or 1.44 CLAM/day. Of course randomly it could be less or more than this on any given day.



where I can find the total number of staking clams?

Use the getstakinginfo command in the wallet. If you are using the Qt wallet you might have to find the debug window.



"expectedtime" : ******

is in second or minutes?
I guess seconds

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April 28, 2016, 01:36:30 PM
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Yes seconds. 86400 = 1 day
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April 28, 2016, 07:08:23 PM
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where I can find the total number of staking clams?

You can't know how many CLAMs are really staking, because staking is something people do in private. I have no way of knowing whether your coins are trying to stake or not until they actually stake a block. You could be trying and failing a lot, or you could just not be trying. Both would look the same to everyone who isn't you.

So all we can do is see how quickly blocks are being found, and look at the current difficulty, and make an estimate based on those data points. That's what "getstakinginfo" does.

Currently the just-dice staking wallet has 1190063.46139446 CLAMs actively trying to stake, but 'getstakinginfo' on that wallet says that the total network stake weight is only 1120725.089647847 CLAMs:

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{
  "enabled" : true,
  "staking" : true,
  "errors" : "",
  "currentblocksize" : 2734,
  "currentblocktx" : 1,
  "pooledtx" : 1,
  "difficulty" : 100160.9552238806,
  "search-interval" : 16,
  "weight" : 1190063.46139446,
  "netstakeweight" : 1120725.089647847,
  "expectedtime" : 66
}

ie. its estimated netstakeweight is less than the weight in this wallet alone. So clearly the estimate isn't very accurate.

The expected time is in seconds.

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April 28, 2016, 10:33:42 PM
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where I can find the total number of staking clams?

You can't know how many CLAMs are really staking, because staking is something people do in private. I have no way of knowing whether your coins are trying to stake or not until they actually stake a block. You could be trying and failing a lot, or you could just not be trying. Both would look the same to everyone who isn't you.

So all we can do is see how quickly blocks are being found, and look at the current difficulty, and make an estimate based on those data points. That's what "getstakinginfo" does.

Currently the just-dice staking wallet has 1190063.46139446 CLAMs actively trying to stake, but 'getstakinginfo' on that wallet says that the total network stake weight is only 1120725.089647847 CLAMs:

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{
  "enabled" : true,
  "staking" : true,
  "errors" : "",
  "currentblocksize" : 2734,
  "currentblocktx" : 1,
  "pooledtx" : 1,
  "difficulty" : 100160.9552238806,
  "search-interval" : 16,
  "weight" : 1190063.46139446,
  "netstakeweight" : 1120725.089647847,
  "expectedtime" : 66
}

ie. its estimated netstakeweight is less than the weight in this wallet alone. So clearly the estimate isn't very accurate.

The expected time is in seconds.

Practically your wallet is the network.
I like the project and you guys attitude, but this fact is quite an issue for this coin.
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April 29, 2016, 11:13:30 PM
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where I can find the total number of staking clams?

You can't know how many CLAMs are really staking, because staking is something people do in private. I have no way of knowing whether your coins are trying to stake or not until they actually stake a block. You could be trying and failing a lot, or you could just not be trying. Both would look the same to everyone who isn't you.

So all we can do is see how quickly blocks are being found, and look at the current difficulty, and make an estimate based on those data points. That's what "getstakinginfo" does.

Currently the just-dice staking wallet has 1190063.46139446 CLAMs actively trying to stake, but 'getstakinginfo' on that wallet says that the total network stake weight is only 1120725.089647847 CLAMs:

Quote
{
  "enabled" : true,
  "staking" : true,
  "errors" : "",
  "currentblocksize" : 2734,
  "currentblocktx" : 1,
  "pooledtx" : 1,
  "difficulty" : 100160.9552238806,
  "search-interval" : 16,
  "weight" : 1190063.46139446,
  "netstakeweight" : 1120725.089647847,
  "expectedtime" : 66
}

ie. its estimated netstakeweight is less than the weight in this wallet alone. So clearly the estimate isn't very accurate.

The expected time is in seconds.

Practically your wallet is the network.
I like the project and you guys attitude, but this fact is quite an issue for this coin.
NO OFFENCE

bye

yep i also think there should be giveaway of some part of this - some contest or.. just giving to Legendary members Smiley))))))))

but fo real - if 1 entity holds too much of the coin its not good.

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April 30, 2016, 01:26:38 AM
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What good would a giveaway do, if it were evan a viable option? People would probably dump their giveaway coins to others who would invest them on just-dice, possibly invest them on just-dice, or gamble them on just-dice and lose.

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yep i also think there should be giveaway of some part of this - some contest or.. just giving to Legendary members Smiley))))))))

I'm not sure if you're joking or not, but they're not mine to give away. The coins are owned by hundreds of different people.

but fo real - if 1 entity holds too much of the coin its not good.

I have no intention of using the concentration of staking weight in any way other than simply staking people's coins for them.

If you can think of a way of having the coins more spread out, please let us know.

The only serious suggestion I've heard is that of limiting the number of coins that Just-Dice will accept, but that doesn't seem to make any sense. I would prefer to see some competition open up so that there's demand for CLAM from more than just one source.

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yep i also think there should be giveaway of some part of this - some contest or.. just giving to Legendary members Smiley))))))))

I'm not sure if you're joking or not, but they're not mine to give away. The coins are owned by hundreds of different people.

I originally thought that too, but then I realized such a suggestion is so absurd, he must have meant a giveaway of new coins in order to dilute that massive just-dice stash. I explained why (I think) that won't work, even if there were a chance in hell of it happening, which there isn't.
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yep i also think there should be giveaway of some part of this - some contest or.. just giving to Legendary members Smiley))))))))

I'm not sure if you're joking or not, but they're not mine to give away. The coins are owned by hundreds of different people.

but fo real - if 1 entity holds too much of the coin its not good.

I have no intention of using the concentration of staking weight in any way other than simply staking people's coins for them.

If you can think of a way of having the coins more spread out, please let us know.

The only serious suggestion I've heard is that of limiting the number of coins that Just-Dice will accept, but that doesn't seem to make any sense. I would prefer to see some competition open up so that there's demand for CLAM from more than just one source.

This concentration of coins is intimidating for the new adopters, like me for example.
I really like the project, the people behind it and how the coin works, but how can I start to use it in a massive way (that will benefit the network) with my project if the 90% of all the minable coins per day are going to the same "company"

You could, for example, limitate your staking numbers of hours per day in order to give us some "grace" hours of "fair" mining. Like instead of 24 hours per day you could stake for 20.5, so at the end of the week we will get one full day of staking without your huge presence.
I really don't know if it makes any sense.

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This concentration of coins is intimidating for the new adopters, like me for example.
I really like the project, the people behind it and how the coin works, but how can I start to use it in a massive way (that will benefit the network) with my project if the 90% of all the minable coins per day are going to the same "company"

You could, for example, limitate your staking numbers of hours per day in order to give us some "grace" hours of "fair" mining. Like instead of 24 hours per day you could stake for 20.5, so at the end of the week we will get one full day of staking without your huge presence.
I really don't know if it makes any sense.

Bye

Its not his huge presence,  its all the people of just-dice. 
Problem is I don't see how competition would benefit individual people staking on their own much, 
ie. if there was competition (as in other similar sites using clam the same way) I doubt the network stake weight would change much, it would just be spread out over other sites.

Would be better if coin age came into play, so everyone who has been holding coins longer has better / equal chance of staking,  but also have it so it remains proof of *working* stake - have to have wallet actively staking.  Not sure if that is possible or the technicalities of it.   I'm guessing jd site investors would still be the majority amount staking in that scenario but maybe to a lesser degree?



 

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This concentration of coins is intimidating for the new adopters, like me for example.
I really like the project, the people behind it and how the coin works, but how can I start to use it in a massive way (that will benefit the network) with my project if the 90% of all the minable coins per day are going to the same "company"

You could, for example, limitate your staking numbers of hours per day in order to give us some "grace" hours of "fair" mining. Like instead of 24 hours per day you could stake for 20.5, so at the end of the week we will get one full day of staking without your huge presence.
I really don't know if it makes any sense.

Bye

Its not his huge presence,  its all the people of just-dice. 

Like this CLAM is no more than the just dice currency, and I really think that is a pity



 



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This concentration of coins is intimidating for the new adopters, like me for example.
I really like the project, the people behind it and how the coin works, but how can I start to use it in a massive way (that will benefit the network) with my project if the 90% of all the minable coins per day are going to the same "company"

You could, for example, limitate your staking numbers of hours per day in order to give us some "grace" hours of "fair" mining. Like instead of 24 hours per day you could stake for 20.5, so at the end of the week we will get one full day of staking without your huge presence.
I really don't know if it makes any sense.

Bye

Would be better if coin age came into play, so everyone who has been holding coins longer has better / equal chance of staking,  but also have it so it remains proof of *working* stake - have to have wallet actively staking.  Not sure if that is possible or the technicalities of it.   I'm guessing jd site investors would still be the majority amount staking in that scenario but maybe to a lesser degree?
Coin age could be calculated just if the wallet has kept open

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