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Author Topic: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin"  (Read 1150828 times)
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December 03, 2015, 09:54:31 AM
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For what it's worth I've been using giftoff for years (back when it was pock.io) and never had any problems. Converted Doge and BTC to Amazon gift cards and it's an extremely easy/quick process.

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December 03, 2015, 09:57:54 AM
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For what it's worth I've been using giftoff for years (back when it was pock.io) and never had any problems. Converted Doge and BTC to Amazon gift cards and it's an extremely easy/quick process.

I've used it for steam vouchers - also no complaints. CLAM is a great investment right now!

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December 03, 2015, 07:28:12 PM
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There is nothing wrong with buying some Clam and letting it sit in a wallet for stakes and invest profits! I like the clam, and since JD just hit 1 billion bets, I think others like the clam too  Lips sealed

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December 03, 2015, 09:13:45 PM
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2 orders so far with CLAM, want moar. Smiley
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December 03, 2015, 09:22:39 PM
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There is nothing wrong with buying some Clam and letting it sit in a wallet for stakes and invest profits! I like the clam, and since JD just hit 1 billion bets, I think others like the clam too  Lips sealed


I buy more clams every 8 hours so long as the Just-Dice investment ticker keeps increasing, its gone up around 60,000 CLAMS in 3 days which is a decent amount in this low volume period.

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December 03, 2015, 09:34:46 PM
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There is nothing wrong with buying some Clam and letting it sit in a wallet for stakes and invest profits! I like the clam, and since JD just hit 1 billion bets, I think others like the clam too  Lips sealed


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December 04, 2015, 05:15:24 AM
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I buy more clams every 8 hours so long as the Just-Dice investment ticker keeps increasing, its gone up around 60,000 CLAMS in 3 days which is a decent amount in this low volume period.

I think most of that can be explained by Poloniex having daily withdrawal limits. People bought a lot of CLAMs from curious a few days ago but weren't able to withdraw them all at once.

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December 04, 2015, 05:34:25 AM
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I buy more clams every 8 hours so long as the Just-Dice investment ticker keeps increasing, its gone up around 60,000 CLAMS in 3 days which is a decent amount in this low volume period.

I think most of that can be explained by Poloniex having daily withdrawal limits. A people bought a lot of CLAMs from curious a few days ago but weren't able to withdraw them all at once.

Ah that makes sense - thanks for clarifying!

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December 04, 2015, 11:37:21 AM
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Voting is soon ready?


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December 04, 2015, 01:21:39 PM
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Voting is soon ready?

Voting is ready now, as far as I know. I think someone could probably start a CLAMour petition already. If someone does, I assume they'll post it here.

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December 04, 2015, 01:28:43 PM
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WOW, made 3 BTC on a long position, yeah
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December 04, 2015, 01:32:44 PM
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Voting is soon ready?

Voting is ready now, as far as I know. I think someone could probably start a CLAMour petition already. If someone does, I assume they'll post it here.

Guess i need to find out how to do since no one else do it=) But i guess dooglus need finnish his votingsystem on jd first


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December 04, 2015, 11:20:22 PM
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Great to see the price comfortably above 200K - looking forward to waking up tomorrow to see my CLAMs over 250!

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December 05, 2015, 12:08:32 AM
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Great to see the price comfortably above 200K - looking forward to waking up tomorrow to see my CLAMs over 250!

I previously called for 200k-300k. I think this rise from 100k was almost inevitable as long as their wasn't an attack on the network.

From here, I'm less confident about immediate upside. Of course we can go to 300k which is a nice 50% upside from 200k, but we could also stall at 200k for a while or dip down below it. From a short- to mid-term speculation perspective I don't see CLAMs as a huge buy any more.



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December 05, 2015, 01:47:40 AM
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Great to see the price comfortably above 200K - looking forward to waking up tomorrow to see my CLAMs over 250!

I previously called for 200k-300k. I think this rise from 100k was almost inevitable as long as their wasn't an attack on the network.

From here, I'm less confident about immediate upside. Of course we can go to 300k which is a nice 50% upside from 200k, but we could also stall at 200k for a while or dip down below it. From a short- to mid-term speculation perspective I don't see CLAMs as a huge buy any more.





I disagree. I see the large buys up the order book as a sign there's several big players who intend on taking it far higher. Some of these guys are buying tens of thousands of USD worth of clams - you don't do that without having the means to pump it much higher.

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December 05, 2015, 03:07:06 AM
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Voting is soon ready?

I'm hoping to add voting to Just-Dice today.

In the mean time, if you have any petitions to propose, you can register them on the blockchain as follows:

1) write the petition in a text file. be specific, give numbers. make it so that if your petition gains widespread approval there won't be any argument as to what it is we have actually all agreed upon

2) sha256 hash your text file

3) take the first 8 hex digits of the sha256 hash; that's your petition ID

4) upload the text somewhere, along with its hash; I like http://txti.es/ - it's quick and easy, and lets you choose which URL you want.

5) make a transaction on the CLAM blockchain with speech "create clamour <sha256> <url>" where <sha256> is the hash from step 2, and <url> is the URL from step 4.



Note: in step 4 I would suggest having http://txti.es/<pid> be the URL for each petition with a petition ID of <pid> - but that's up to you. I registered http://txti.es/clamour and intend to keep it up to date with any reasonable petitions. For some definition of "reasonable". Note that it will be possible to see a list of all registered petitions by running "listclamours" in the forthcoming CLAM client release.



For example, I made a test petition.

Step 1: I put it in text file:

Code:
$ cat /tmp/petition1.txt
Test petition 1.

Not a real petition.

Just for testing
$

Step 2: I hashed it:

Code:
$ sha256sum /tmp/petition1.txt
fd7fd6bbd86c072f6e4e323905154b7b40ee5c5fdd786ea574e59d58c2fc0bb5  /tmp/petition1.txt
$

Step 3: The petition ID is fd7fd6bb, the first 8 characters of the hash from step 3.

Step 4: I uploaded it to txti.es, as http://txti.es/fd7fd6bb

Step 5: I made a transaction with speech "create clamour fd7fd6bbd86c072f6e4e323905154b7b40ee5c5fdd786ea574e59d58c2fc0bb5 http://txti.es/fd7fd6bb" by using the CLAMspeech field when withdrawing from my Just-Dice account.

Now anyone can vote for that petition by putting "clamour fd7fd6bb" in their CLAMspeech when staking.

Just-Dice investors can support the petition by including "fd7fd6bb" in the list of petitions they support on the account tab (once I put that change live, in a few hours I hope).

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December 05, 2015, 03:11:56 AM
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Great to see the price comfortably above 200K - looking forward to waking up tomorrow to see my CLAMs over 250!

I previously called for 200k-300k. I think this rise from 100k was almost inevitable as long as their wasn't an attack on the network.

From here, I'm less confident about immediate upside. Of course we can go to 300k which is a nice 50% upside from 200k, but we could also stall at 200k for a while or dip down below it. From a short- to mid-term speculation perspective I don't see CLAMs as a huge buy any more.





I disagree. I see the large buys up the order book as a sign there's several big players who intend on taking it far higher. Some of these guys are buying tens of thousands of USD worth of clams - you don't do that without having the means to pump it much higher.

Let me restate. It is a matter of probabilities and just how compelling a buy it is. I'm holding. I definitely think it can go higher. I just don't think it is as compelling as it was at 100k.
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December 05, 2015, 07:14:56 AM
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Voting is soon ready?

I'm hoping to add voting to Just-Dice today.

I just made it. It's 23:09 Pacific.

Reload the Just-Dice site. On the 'account' tab, you'll see:



And at https://just-dice.com/misc/clamour_weights.txt you can see how the JD wallets are currently staking. The number at the start of each line is the number of satoshis voting that way:



http://txti.es/clamour has a list of the petitions I know about so far.

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December 05, 2015, 07:37:57 AM
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I previously called for 200k-300k. I think this rise from 100k was almost inevitable as long as their wasn't an attack on the network.

From here, I'm less confident about immediate upside. Of course we can go to 300k which is a nice 50% upside from 200k, but we could also stall at 200k for a while or dip down below it. From a short- to mid-term speculation perspective I don't see CLAMs as a huge buy any more.
I disagree. I see the large buys up the order book as a sign there's several big players who intend on taking it far higher. Some of these guys are buying tens of thousands of USD worth of clams - you don't do that without having the means to pump it much higher.
Let me restate. It is a matter of probabilities and just how compelling a buy it is. I'm holding. I definitely think it can go higher. I just don't think it is as compelling as it was at 100k.

Pretty obvious some exchange sites did a very good job on sheduled data backups during these years. Guess what, they owned a lot of adress keys from a lot of people.

Not compelling to buy in.
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December 05, 2015, 08:30:37 AM
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I previously called for 200k-300k. I think this rise from 100k was almost inevitable as long as their wasn't an attack on the network.
From here, I'm less confident about immediate upside. Of course we can go to 300k which is a nice 50% upside from 200k, but we could also stall at 200k for a while or dip down below it. From a short- to mid-term speculation perspective I don't see CLAMs as a huge buy any more.
I disagree. I see the large buys up the order book as a sign there's several big players who intend on taking it far higher. Some of these guys are buying tens of thousands of USD worth of clams - you don't do that without having the means to pump it much higher.
Let me restate. It is a matter of probabilities and just how compelling a buy it is. I'm holding. I definitely think it can go higher. I just don't think it is as compelling as it was at 100k.
Pretty obvious some exchange sites did a very good job on sheduled data backups during these years. Guess what, they owned a lot of adress keys from a lot of people.
Not compelling to buy in.

It doesn't matter how many empty addresses they have "backed-up".

It only matters if the service failed to sweep their wallets, such that they have many many balance holding keys.

EDIT:
In order to have the number of CLAM claimed by "curious" the "digger", we are talking over 100,000 balance holding keys.
That would suggest over 100,000 deposits/outputs which didn't move through to the snapshot for the distribution.
Impossible? No.
I believe if we have anymore large diggers like this, they will be edge cases, and not 'premiere' exchanges (some of which I expect have already claimed).
Gambling sites which required individual txs per bet, faucet users, people toying with embedding data in the chain, extremely poorly managed and unswept wallets, that type of thing.

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