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Author Topic: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin"  (Read 1150754 times)
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January 12, 2016, 10:55:40 PM
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If Dooglus the Deceiver feels the need to call me a liar... I will come post regardless of how let go I am. 

I don't feel the need to call you names at all. I felt the need to respond to the false statement you made. There's a difference.

You can call me "Dooglus the Deceiver" if you like, but it would be more effective to actually point to anything I have said that was deceptive, rather than resorting to calling me names.

I'd say at this point I'm fairly god damn let go Smiley 

It really doesn't sound like it to me.

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January 12, 2016, 11:13:44 PM
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You can call me "Dooglus the Deceiver" if you like, but it would be more effective to actually point to anything I have said that was deceptive, rather than resorting to calling me names.

It's fairly deceptive to slowly leak your investment into Just-Dice at the opening rather than investing what you had to start with.

I understand though and it's just part of the game when you corner a market, but still want to appear fair.   Roll Eyes

It really doesn't sound like it to me.

Feels like it to me and that's what counts.

I've tried to unfollow this thread, but it still keeps popping up in my unread posts for some reason.

I'll ask Salt for help later I guess.

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January 12, 2016, 11:45:31 PM
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So it looks like i got my clam staking. I have just over 500 in my wallet and it all ready says I should expect a stake within a day. Is that pretty accurate? I am thinking of pulling the other half out of just dice to help with the centralization issue and it seems like twice the inputs and twice the amount of clams would still net the average of 1 a day. Can I reasonably expect to average 1 a day?

BTW this has nothing to do with the ongoing controversy. I have nothing but admiration for Dooglus and Deb. I am willing to give up the bankroll proceeds to help the CLAMS network.  LLTGC   
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It's fairly deceptive to slowly leak your investment slowly ...


In some systems this would be fastly, in other systems it's more slowest.



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January 13, 2016, 12:47:48 AM
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Just staked my first clam! Less than 24 hours after building my piles.
 
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I know it is only one clam but that was a cool moment for me. Maybe I should get out  more.  Grin

On further review it says generated but not accepted. Is that a wallet issue or does that happen from time to time?
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January 13, 2016, 01:17:27 AM
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Just staked my first clam! Less than 24 hours after building my piles.
 
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I know it is only one clam but that was a cool moment for me. Maybe I should get out  more.  Grin

On further review it says generated but not accepted. Is that a wallet issue or does that happen from time to time?

That happens now and then, but you should still keep your coin weight if it did not stake. Just keep waiting eventually you will get one that sticks and matures after a little bit of a wait

 The cool thing is you are supporting the network and contributing to clam starting to be more decentralized.

How many stacks of clams do you have and what size are the stacks?
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Just staked my first clam! Less than 24 hours after building my piles.
 
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I know it is only one clam but that was a cool moment for me. Maybe I should get out  more.  Grin

On further review it says generated but not accepted. Is that a wallet issue or does that happen from time to time?

That happens now and then, but you should still keep your coin weight if it did not stake. Just keep waiting eventually you will get one that sticks and matures after a little bit of a wait

 The cool thing is you are supporting the network and contributing to clam starting to be more decentralized.

How many stacks of clams do you have and what size are the stacks?

I have 25 stacks of 20 currently. I am probably going to bring the rest over tomorrow. That will be another 25 stacks of 20. A few have more than 20. My total is around 1050. 
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Just staked my first clam! Less than 24 hours after building my piles.
 
d49419934138aa9f291eb39da7155dd533f7dbe8878b2356d43eccfedaf4769e-000

I know it is only one clam but that was a cool moment for me. Maybe I should get out  more.  Grin

On further review it says generated but not accepted. Is that a wallet issue or does that happen from time to time?

That happens now and then, but you should still keep your coin weight if it did not stake. Just keep waiting eventually you will get one that sticks and matures after a little bit of a wait

 The cool thing is you are supporting the network and contributing to clam starting to be more decentralized.

How many stacks of clams do you have and what size are the stacks?

I have 25 stacks of 20 currently. I am probably going to bring the rest over tomorrow. That will be another 25 stacks of 20. A few have more than 20. My total is around 1050. 

Sounds reasonable, and consider yourself lucky if you start getting coins that stake within a week. With the current difficulty you should start seeing more and more stakes in about a month.
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January 13, 2016, 03:35:05 AM
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Sounds reasonable, and consider yourself lucky if you start getting coins that stake within a week. With the current difficulty you should start seeing more and more stakes in about a month.

Just curious, why do you say "in a month"?  I thought coin age doesn't really matter with clam staking.. unless I'm missing something.

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January 13, 2016, 04:22:49 AM
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You can call me "Dooglus the Deceiver" if you like, but it would be more effective to actually point to anything I have said that was deceptive, rather than resorting to calling me names.

It's fairly deceptive to slowly leak your investment into Just-Dice at the opening rather than investing what you had to start with.

I understand though and it's just part of the game when you corner a market, but still want to appear fair.   Roll Eyes

It really doesn't sound like it to me.

Feels like it to me and that's what counts.

I've tried to unfollow this thread, but it still keeps popping up in my unread posts for some reason.

I'll ask Salt for help later I guess.

I just want to address the point about dooglus "cornering the market". Even if this were the case, why would that be a bad thing? I would hope that Doog wants to corner the market, even if there are large holders that wont sell at prices anywhere near what we see now. That would cause the price to spike benefiting all holders. It'd also be risky because it would draw attention to undug clams and risk waking up a digger. Who would be hurt by CLAM being cornered? Not gamblers, they buy in at market and can sell after, they just care about liquid btc or $ value. Not investors. Shorts on poloniex would be hurt, but it would serve them right for shorting a small supply coin that had the possibility of being cornered.

This is all just wishing though, as someone who holds CLAM.
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January 13, 2016, 04:40:13 AM
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Deleted a post by BayAreaCoins due to gratuitous references to fellatio and personal attacks.

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January 13, 2016, 04:45:19 AM
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Sounds reasonable, and consider yourself lucky if you start getting coins that stake within a week. With the current difficulty you should start seeing more and more stakes in about a month.
Just curious, why do you say "in a month"?  I thought coin age doesn't really matter with clam staking.. unless I'm missing something.

You are correct; age does not figure into weight in CLAM.

CLAMs == weight.

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January 13, 2016, 05:07:34 AM
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i want to trst out something. can i get some CLAMs? xHoC7cVtmn8eEUCoaVNznMQZNgGjxG5qn2

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Sounds reasonable, and consider yourself lucky if you start getting coins that stake within a week. With the current difficulty you should start seeing more and more stakes in about a month.
Just curious, why do you say "in a month"?  I thought coin age doesn't really matter with clam staking.. unless I'm missing something.

You are correct; age does not figure into weight in CLAM.

CLAMs == weight.

Unless "thefix" meant there would be more clams (amount) from staking, but I don't see how that small of an amount gained in a month would make that big of a difference.
Maybe in a year or so I could see..
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Sounds reasonable, and consider yourself lucky if you start getting coins that stake within a week. With the current difficulty you should start seeing more and more stakes in about a month.
Just curious, why do you say "in a month"?  I thought coin age doesn't really matter with clam staking.. unless I'm missing something.

You are correct; age does not figure into weight in CLAM.

CLAMs == weight.

I am not sure I understand, why do I see the weight of stacks grow with age?

Are you saying that a 10 day old stack of 20 with a 200 weight has the same chance to stake as a stack of 20 with 1 weight?

If so I have been pretty lucky in spite of myself over the past year

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Could you post the deleted post in another thread and link to it?  I need a laugh.



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Deleted a quote of BayAreaCoins' previous post.


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If you want to convey your 'Dooglus is a liar' message, or anything else, through reasoned argument - do so.

Telling people to 'suck your d*ck' isn't welcome here.  

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If Dooglus the Deceiver feels the need to call me a liar... I will come post regardless of how let go I am.  

I don't feel the need to call you names at all. I felt the need to respond to the false statement you made. There's a difference.

You can call me "Dooglus the Deceiver" if you like, but it would be more effective to actually point to anything I have said that was deceptive, rather than resorting to calling me names.


If you want to convey your 'Dooglus is a liar' message, or anything else, through reasoned argument - do so.

I didn't say Dooglus was a liar... other people wouldn't know that due to your censoring my post and quoting shit I didn't say.  Roll Eyes  

Dooglus is very careful about what he says... it's his acts that are deceptive... not his words (minus the Rat4 thing).  

If he said he didn't slowly leak his investment into JD slowly so it looked better... I would have then called him a liar.

Doog did say I was a liar though.  Which isn't entirely wrong... I said I bought into CLAM on my own research of studying his post.  This was a lie and Dooglus was deceptive by not correcting it, but he never lied about it.  I could name a number of other thing similar.  Such as why JD closed in the first place and blah blah blah.  

The world works better with propagandists sadly and I am what I am.

Telling people to 'suck your d*ck' isn't welcome here.  

Why the *?

You aren't my supervisor... in fact you're a nobody with a delete button.

Congrats!!!

I'll convey anything I fucking wish however I fucking wish you fucking peasant and you'll delete/censor whatever you fucking wish... "so be it" says the great Queen spider.


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If you want to convey your 'Dooglus is a liar' message...
I didn't say Dooglus was a liar...

Before you say that lying and being deceptive are the same thing (maybe you'd even use some fancy Latin words yay Roll Eyes) I think of it like this:

Lie: "I didn't shit my pants"  When in fact I did shit my pants.

Deception: I don't tell anyone I shit my pants, but I keep my distance so people never know I shit my pants.

Lie: "I have a full house"  When in fact I have absolutely nothing.

Deception:  I go all in without saying anything when there is a chance of a full house, but I actually have nothing.

"O what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive."
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Lying is a form of deception, but not all forms of deception are lies.

Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/ethics/lying/lying_1.shtml

Enough time wasted for post that will be censored anyways by this "Freedom of speech" sales "developer".  

Y'all have a nice night *tips hat*

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January 13, 2016, 02:09:27 PM
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Deception:  I go all in without saying anything when there is a chance of a full house, but I actually have nothing.

That's a wheel - best hand in deuce-to-seven lowball.
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