[ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin"

[Michael Syrett]

I went back and dug up a bunch of clams from my old wallets.  Cool.

Question, there are these two web sites:

http://clamcoin.org/

http://clamclient.com/

Which one is the correct web site?

It is confusing.  I am worried one is a scam.

They all go to the same Github and that's probably what you'll want to mess with.

We created Clamcoin.org because I was worried about missing traffic for CLAM if we didn't use the "coin" brand that people are so used to.

Which one did you think was the scam? (Please please please say Clamclient har har!)

How can I dig clams? Do I need a special computer or digging equipment?

You can dig clams by using a service or downloading the CLAM wallet.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=975860.msg10654223#msg10654223

Is it easy, have you done it before?

[1715000809]

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[BayAreaCoins]

I went back and dug up a bunch of clams from my old wallets.  Cool.

Question, there are these two web sites:

http://clamcoin.org/

http://clamclient.com/

Which one is the correct web site?

It is confusing.  I am worried one is a scam.

They all go to the same Github and that's probably what you'll want to mess with.

We created Clamcoin.org because I was worried about missing traffic for CLAM if we didn't use the "coin" brand that people are so used to.

Which one did you think was the scam? (Please please please say Clamclient har har!)

How can I dig clams? Do I need a special computer or digging equipment?

You can dig clams by using a service or downloading the CLAM wallet.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=975860.msg10654223#msg10654223

Is it easy, have you done it before?

I own FreeBitcoins.com and in my opinion it is the easiest option for digging both single addresses and whole wallets at a time, but you'll only get 3.5 CLAMS per dig rather than the full 4.60545574  & it pays out in Bitcoin rather than needing to dick around with alt exchanges n such.

I have around 30 BTC ready to purchase fresh CLAM addresses.

Syncing a CLAM wallet can be a bit of a bitch... so I hear.

[SuperClam]

Only a fool would sell his CLAMS right now, BIG LEG UP coming
Sell me all your CLAMS!!

Haha, wow why some of you are so insane! Whale is selling to you because it's trash! I'm sure he would be happy to sell all his coin for 30k but it's not possible to sell 2 mil coins just for one moment to you! Good luck! If you like to feed a whale it's your business!
And very soon, probably next week BTC will explode and will killed this coin for sure and other alts too!
Ok. it's my last notice here! Bye,bye scammers and noobs!
In few days you will say that guy (me) was so right!

Though I can understand your worries, let me throw in a dollars' worth of advice, considering I've been in the cryptospace since early 2013 if you dont like taking risks one should not get into altcoins, but also the winners are the ones who can read the markets and take calculated risks.
You can keep speculating and chickening out or hop onto the rocket before it takes off.
If you know whaleplay you should probably be able to read the charts, the whales do exactly the opposite of what newbies do!

Ahaha I warned you! It's crashing like hell!!! SCAM, SCAM, SCAM!

As usual, I have deleted your repeated posts and left one of your posts as your daily allotment of FUD. 
Cheers

[BurtW]

This is strange.  Why can't I quote posts from this thread?  Never had that problem before.  It says:

The post you are trying to quote either does not exist, was deleted, or is no longer viewable by you.

I have been here for years and have never had this problem.

[helfo]

Hello! This took more than I expected but here it is:
Pattern: xJDCLAMZ                                                              
Address: xJDCLAMZJqc5ym5Yyfup6pGTu6wJUae6x9
PrivkeyPart: LnvuaquFuLzedTJkRdbxphiNX39yLUAUgtkC3vF2c2Vuqdq92j3P

Let me know if you need anything else.

UID: 1820992

[freedomno1]

This is strange.  Why can't I quote posts from this thread?  Never had that problem before.  It says:

The post you are trying to quote either does not exist, was deleted, or is no longer viewable by you.

I have been here for years and have never had this problem.

That is a rare one if I recall correctly it's usually a post that gets moved to the archive or deleted section of the forum resulting in an error.
Doesn't happen very often though so it could just be an error on your end Burt

[BayAreaCoins]

This is strange.  Why can't I quote posts from this thread?  Never had that problem before.  It says:

The post you are trying to quote either does not exist, was deleted, or is no longer viewable by you.

I have been here for years and have never had this problem.

Do you still see the thread you want to quote or is it gone?

This is a self modded thread and Creative (one of the two or three people who run the SuperCLAM account here.)

Why does this coin sync at 100 block/day or something silly like that? Is there a fix?

Ya, use Just-Dice.  

[DomenicoRomano]

Found another.

Pattern: xJDCLAMZ                                                             
Address: xJDCLAMZbv9gzE6qrmDucY2gHV4vBX4rFr
PrivkeyPart: Lgpt9vSp4RM8Vs5bUc7vRrVGzMx6mnW354QVbWVPDXqxnbZNd5tW
UID: 4137

How many of these are there?

[DomenicoRomano]

Found four more while at work today.  These things appear with quite a temporal variation.  And they are all different in their own way.

Pattern: xJDCLAMZ                                                             
Address: xJDCLAMZduvWYff38mxFMyk9Ki95YVhq7Y
PrivkeyPart: LhoxMSXoDUBUU1UfSaELmHrwJrKEwbiGLK4qpRhUB6rZA586wtH1
Pattern: xJDCLAMZ                                                             
Address: xJDCLAMZq9egdLiG9pu7QDtiAn1diCG18m
PrivkeyPart: Lj9bLPLc8hLp1ttjCdsBWjxNqXUpwjHi6eGMesbKmY7GTC1DSr5F
Pattern: xJDCLAMZ                                                             
Address: xJDCLAMZEsLBNfRrFR1DuGRkeWXbo2ZXRn
PrivkeyPart: LpeP9BcLqSLgXbbchCFkzg695ND2u8sv3C92rApRgaJK2mZEdNFG
Pattern: xJDCLAMZ                                                             
Address: xJDCLAMZ7XratB7jhThxPeyej2Y5W65Qex
PrivkeyPart: Lh8vv6QAopskTrmbTypcHRuZKMGFpxuYJSkmjbVUY269TL9n4vxT

UID: 4137

[dooglus]

Why does this coin sync at 100 block/day or something silly like that? Is there a fix?

What do you mean? The blocks should average out at about 1 per minute, or 1440 per day.

And another while I slept.

Pattern: xJDCLAMZ                                                             
Address: xJDCLAMZ7yCZQQU27fAkFUv2vXw1FuN2xP
PrivkeyPart: Lmxkm6xm9Udzz1MyGaSyNKujymwqBbsJYkLm1szSFSRMmBcF1QkL

UID: 4137

Thank you.

no many btc wallet.

What do you mean? At least smooth used a sentence in his post. CLAM isn't BTC. CLAM wallets are not BTC wallets. What were you hoping for?

Ahaha I warned you! It's crashing like hell!!! SCAM, SCAM, SCAM!

The price last I saw was 0.00134994 BTC/CLAM. That's about double where it was at a month ago. Ahaha. Etc.

This is strange.  Why can't I quote posts from this thread?  Never had that problem before.  It says:

The post you are trying to quote either does not exist, was deleted, or is no longer viewable by you.

I have been here for years and have never had this problem.

I think you probably tried to reply to a post that was deleted between you viewing the thread and hitting 'quote'.

Hello! This took more than I expected but here it is:
Pattern: xJDCLAMZ                                                              
Address: xJDCLAMZJqc5ym5Yyfup6pGTu6wJUae6x9
PrivkeyPart: LnvuaquFuLzedTJkRdbxphiNX39yLUAUgtkC3vF2c2Vuqdq92j3P

Let me know if you need anything else.

UID: 1820992

Thanks! The reward per address has dropped to roughly zero by now.

23:41:47 INFO: sent 0.1 CLAM to (1820992) <helfo> [[xJDCLAMZ]]

Found another.

Pattern: xJDCLAMZ                                                             
Address: xJDCLAMZbv9gzE6qrmDucY2gHV4vBX4rFr
PrivkeyPart: Lgpt9vSp4RM8Vs5bUc7vRrVGzMx6mnW354QVbWVPDXqxnbZNd5tW
UID: 4137

How many of these are there?

There are huge numbers of them. But each one is worth half as much as the previous one. I'll pay 0.1 CLAM per address from now on which is more than I promised but probably less than it costs you in power...

Found four more while at work today.  These things appear with quite a temporal variation.  And they are all different in their own way.

Pattern: xJDCLAMZ                                                             
Address: xJDCLAMZduvWYff38mxFMyk9Ki95YVhq7Y
PrivkeyPart: LhoxMSXoDUBUU1UfSaELmHrwJrKEwbiGLK4qpRhUB6rZA586wtH1
Pattern: xJDCLAMZ                                                             
Address: xJDCLAMZq9egdLiG9pu7QDtiAn1diCG18m
PrivkeyPart: Lj9bLPLc8hLp1ttjCdsBWjxNqXUpwjHi6eGMesbKmY7GTC1DSr5F
Pattern: xJDCLAMZ                                                             
Address: xJDCLAMZEsLBNfRrFR1DuGRkeWXbo2ZXRn
PrivkeyPart: LpeP9BcLqSLgXbbchCFkzg695ND2u8sv3C92rApRgaJK2mZEdNFG
Pattern: xJDCLAMZ                                                             
Address: xJDCLAMZ7XratB7jhThxPeyej2Y5W65Qex
PrivkeyPart: Lh8vv6QAopskTrmbTypcHRuZKMGFpxuYJSkmjbVUY269TL9n4vxT

UID: 4137

Nice!

I'll give you 0.1 CLAM per address:

23:41:20 INFO: sent 0.6 CLAM to (4137) <BigDom> [[xJDCLAMZ], [xJDCLAMZ], [xJDCLAMZ], [xJDCLAMZ], [xJDCLAMZ], [xJDCLAMZ]]

[dooglus]

I just staked my first clam! But... how am I sure it is splitting up my total now?

Search for the transaction ID of the stake at khashier.com. Look at the outputs. Is there one big output or several smaller ones, with all but one equal to your splitsize?

To make it clearer I have a couple of examples:

Here's an example of a 49 CLAM output staking and splitting into two 25's.

Here's an example of a 48 CLAM output staking into a 49 and not splitting.

[DomenicoRomano]

... I'll pay 0.1 CLAM per address from now on which is more than I promised but probably less than it costs you in power...

Thanks Doog.  Here is the last one from me:

Address: xJDCLAMZraAiGftMe2SPnB5furwS8jRkXH
PrivkeyPart: LndDRrfx89DiyicvMmzggivqYJZiDcnDWE9GcNfDvMfBwGEiRnp8
UID: 4137

I found 10 address altogether at a cost of about 0.34 CLAMS each.

If vanitygen's reported difficulty number is what I think it is then there are 2 x 10^36 "JDCLAMZ" addresses.  I think you have all the good ones though.

Dom

[smooth]

Why does this coin sync at 100 block/day or something silly like that? Is there a fix?

What do you mean? The blocks should average out at about 1 per minute, or 1440 per day.

I'm referring to syncing a new node

I started syncing in early April and it literally took weeks, though it does seem to have finally completed.

[BurtW]

So I got my first block reward today and it split in two.  Above you implied there is a split setting?  Is the default 10?  Can it be changed?  Why do this?  From what I understand all of the clams from an address are staked so what is the advantage of splitting the transaction into two in the same address?  In this case won't all the clams from the split address get staked next time around? See:

http://www.khashier.com/t/8dpbChb1u8

PS: still cannot quote any posts in this specific thread, including those from dooglus or SuperClam.

I tried to search this thread for the word "split" so I could read previous posts on this transaction splitting issue and got:

The topic or board you are looking for appears to be either missing or off limits to you.

Which got me to thinking...  So for future reference for everyone:

Yep, this board was checked in "Ignore Boards Preferences" in my profile, changed that, fixed issues with searching and quoting this thread.

PPS:  Now that I can search I found this explanation of the splitting process:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=623147.msg15807148#msg15807148

[TooDumbForBitcoin]

Why does this coin sync at 100 block/day or something silly like that? Is there a fix?

What do you mean? The blocks should average out at about 1 per minute, or 1440 per day.

I'm referring to syncing a new node

I started syncing in early April and it literally took weeks, though it does seem to have finally completed.

That was designed in.  It's considered sunch costs.

[BurtW]

Why does this coin sync at 100 block/day or something silly like that? Is there a fix?

What do you mean? The blocks should average out at about 1 per minute, or 1440 per day.

I'm referring to syncing a new node

I started syncing in early April and it literally took weeks, though it does seem to have finally completed.

That was designed in.  It's considered sunch costs.

When I started it was taking forever.  I calculated that it would take weeks to finish.  So, I did some research and found the snapshot repository that dooglus created.  Once I imported the snapshots it did not take that long to finish the sync (a few days).

[sadiga]

How about clam, any news about it? the price is so stable.

[tryphe]

Why does this coin sync at 100 block/day or something silly like that? Is there a fix?

What do you mean? The blocks should average out at about 1 per minute, or 1440 per day.

I'm referring to syncing a new node

I started syncing in early April and it literally took weeks, though it does seem to have finally completed.

Nice to know that it works from scratch for someone else. The upside is that once the client is synced it doesn't seem to happen nearly as much or at all. The problem is that the orphan code is a bit screwy and the large number of orphan blocks on the CLAMs chain seems to compound an issue in the orphan code, causing syncing to become very inefficient.

There was a commit that was problematic: https://github.com/nochowderforyou/clams/commit/66493570358a53f65b209590c38459cef92a0112
However none of us were that familiar with the block indexing code enough to actually pinpoint the issue. In fact, I think it still happens with that commit reverted, but that's when it was realized.

There are 3-4 issues(not separate issues, just bug reports) open directly related this problem but it hasn't been resolved yet. I believe there's a 500+ CLAM bounty on it last time I spoke to SuperClam; however I'm not sure if that still stands. I'd really like to see this fixed though.

Anyhow, to avoid network syncing for most of the chain, you can download dooglus' bootstrap here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=623147.msg9772191#msg9772191
And here's more instructions on how to use it: https://www.reddit.com/r/Clamcoin/comments/5z5x77/sync_issue/df4as22/

Hope that helps.

[BayAreaCoins]

I didn't know there was active CLAM bounties... Are these listed any place?

I'd be happy to have them added to Clamcoin.org if so.

In other news in regards to Clamcoin.org... the traffic is higher than it was even in the .01 BTC per Clamcoin days.

[tryphe]

I've never been able to claim CLAMS from old BTC addresses, is there a specific way to do it?

Synced the whole blockchain then pointed to a local BTC wallet.dat file but no luck (with the Windows and Mac Desktop Wallet).

Is there another way to claim CLAMS from old BTC addresses? Any guide anywhere?

Or is this now over and cannot claim anymore?

It sounds like you did it correctly. The distribution is indeed still going on. You should have some sort of debug.log output that it was scanned. You can also run 'importprivkey <pkey>' to test a single key(BTC/LTC/DOGE).