[ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin"

[sadiga]

How about clam, any news about it? the price is so stable.

[tryphe]

Why does this coin sync at 100 block/day or something silly like that? Is there a fix?

What do you mean? The blocks should average out at about 1 per minute, or 1440 per day.

I'm referring to syncing a new node

I started syncing in early April and it literally took weeks, though it does seem to have finally completed.

Nice to know that it works from scratch for someone else. The upside is that once the client is synced it doesn't seem to happen nearly as much or at all. The problem is that the orphan code is a bit screwy and the large number of orphan blocks on the CLAMs chain seems to compound an issue in the orphan code, causing syncing to become very inefficient.

There was a commit that was problematic: https://github.com/nochowderforyou/clams/commit/66493570358a53f65b209590c38459cef92a0112
However none of us were that familiar with the block indexing code enough to actually pinpoint the issue. In fact, I think it still happens with that commit reverted, but that's when it was realized.

There are 3-4 issues(not separate issues, just bug reports) open directly related this problem but it hasn't been resolved yet. I believe there's a 500+ CLAM bounty on it last time I spoke to SuperClam; however I'm not sure if that still stands. I'd really like to see this fixed though.

Anyhow, to avoid network syncing for most of the chain, you can download dooglus' bootstrap here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=623147.msg9772191#msg9772191
And here's more instructions on how to use it: https://www.reddit.com/r/Clamcoin/comments/5z5x77/sync_issue/df4as22/

Hope that helps.

[BayAreaCoins]

I didn't know there was active CLAM bounties... Are these listed any place?

I'd be happy to have them added to Clamcoin.org if so.

In other news in regards to Clamcoin.org... the traffic is higher than it was even in the .01 BTC per Clamcoin days.

[tryphe]

I've never been able to claim CLAMS from old BTC addresses, is there a specific way to do it?

Synced the whole blockchain then pointed to a local BTC wallet.dat file but no luck (with the Windows and Mac Desktop Wallet).

Is there another way to claim CLAMS from old BTC addresses? Any guide anywhere?

Or is this now over and cannot claim anymore?

It sounds like you did it correctly. The distribution is indeed still going on. You should have some sort of debug.log output that it was scanned. You can also run 'importprivkey <pkey>' to test a single key(BTC/LTC/DOGE).

[BayAreaCoins]

I've never been able to claim CLAMS from old BTC addresses, is there a specific way to do it?

Synced the whole blockchain then pointed to a local BTC wallet.dat file but no luck (with the Windows and Mac Desktop Wallet).

Is there another way to claim CLAMS from old BTC addresses? Any guide anywhere?

Or is this now over and cannot claim anymore?

Check your address using Just-Dice or FreeBitcoins perhaps before dicking around with anything super technical?

The address had to be in use ON May 12, 2014 with BTC, DOGE or LTC over "dust".

[BurtW]

I've never been able to claim CLAMS from old BTC addresses, is there a specific way to do it?

Synced the whole blockchain then pointed to a local BTC wallet.dat file but no luck (with the Windows and Mac Desktop Wallet).

Is there another way to claim CLAMS from old BTC addresses? Any guide anywhere?

Or is this now over and cannot claim anymore?

You have been around long enough to have addresses at that time:

September 02, 2013, 03:29:18 AM

My issue was that when the distribution happened (May 12, 2014), unfortunately I had just finished consolidating all of my BTC onto paper wallet cold storage.  So I only got the CLAMs from those dozen of so cold storage addresses that I had in use on that day.

It was shortly after that day that my first Trezor arrived and I started to transfer everything to my Trezor.  So none of my Trezor addresses are good.

[dooglus]

... I'll pay 0.1 CLAM per address from now on which is more than I promised but probably less than it costs you in power...

Thanks Doog.  Here is the last one from me:

Address: xJDCLAMZraAiGftMe2SPnB5furwS8jRkXH
PrivkeyPart: LndDRrfx89DiyicvMmzggivqYJZiDcnDWE9GcNfDvMfBwGEiRnp8
UID: 4137

I found 10 address altogether at a cost of about 0.34 CLAMS each.

If vanitygen's reported difficulty number is what I think it is then there are 2 x 10^36 "JDCLAMZ" addresses.  I think you have all the good ones though.

Dom

21:01:58 INFO: sent 0.1 CLAM to (4137) <BigDom> [[xJDCLAMZ]]

Thanks for all the help Dom.

I expect there are some REALLY good ones I don't have yet. 10^36 is a big number. xJDCLAMZBECAUSEJUSTD1CERULEZ8jRkXH is probably out there if we look long enough.

I'm referring to syncing a new node

I started syncing in early April and it literally took weeks, though it does seem to have finally completed.

Oh, I see. I don't know why that would be. It syncs pretty quickly for me. I expect the newest version of the code in the git repository would sync better, but I don't know what its status is in terms of reliability.

PPS:  Now that I can search I found this explanation of the splitting process:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=623147.msg15807148#msg15807148

It sounds like you found answers for all your questions. Is there anything still outstanding?

I still update the chart in that linked post, but it's not very pretty any more (due to people withdrawing large amounts when the price doubled recently, then depositing again shortly after):

My issue was that when the distribution happened (May 12, 2014), unfortunately I had just finished consolidating all of my BTC onto paper wallet cold storage.

I had exactly the same problem. I had tens of thousands of empty addresses and 20 or 30 funded ones.

Thanks for the replies, yes I tried with the wallet in the OP 1.4.17, the one in the OP.

I'll try the importprivkey option... May get better luck.

I would recommend finding an address that you think was funded on the distribution date, then going to the Just-Dice.com chat tab and typing in /dig followed by a space, followed by the address, then hitting return. It will tell you whether the address really was funded on that date, and whether the CLAMs are still available.

[Ayers]

is it possible to claim more clam from my doge, litecoin and bitcoin wallet, i have some bitcoin wallet that is unused now and had many transactions going on in the past, can i get something out of it or there is no use anymore? and on what is based the amount of clam i can get? on the amount of btc that were in my wallet or the amount of transactions?

[dooglus]

on what is based the amount of clam i can get? on the amount of btc that were in my wallet or the amount of transactions?

Neither of those. It is based entirely on the number of different addresses you have which contained (non dust) funds on 12th May 2014. You get 4.6 CLAMs for each of them.

[Ayers]

on what is based the amount of clam i can get? on the amount of btc that were in my wallet or the amount of transactions?

Neither of those. It is based entirely on the number of different addresses you have which contained (non dust) funds on 12th May 2014. You get 4.6 CLAMs for each of them.

why only on that particular day there is a reason behind this? the coin was launched may 24, would make sense the 24th of the month if it based on that, and there is a way to see my hidden address on core? i want to see how many i have in that date

[BurtW]

This is what I did:

1) Downloaded the clam client.  It was taking forever so I downloaded the block chain snapshots.  This took a few days.
2) Emptied out my Bitcoin wallet (transferred all the coins to my Trezor hardware wallet).
3) Imported my Bitcoin wallet into my Clam wallet.
4) Got a few clams because some of the addresses in my Bitcoin wallet had value on the distribution date.

Pretty easy.

There is a lot of information about this if you just search for it.  Try Google.  That is the search engine I use.

why only on that particular day there is a reason behind this?

Because it is by far the fairest and most efficient way to create an initial distribution of coins.  If you have an idea for a better way you can, of course, create your own coin using your method.

[BayAreaCoins]

Proof of Stake based on Proof of Work ftw IMO.

[Ayers]

This is what I did:

1) Downloaded the clam client.  It was taking forever so I downloaded the block chain snapshots.  This took a few days.
2) Emptied out my Bitcoin wallet (transferred all the coins to my Trezor hardware wallet).
3) Imported my Bitcoin wallet into my Clam wallet.
4) Got a few clams because some of the addresses in my Bitcoin wallet had value on the distribution date.

Pretty easy.

There is a lot of information about this if you just search for it.  Try Google.  That is the search engine I use.

why only on that particular day there is a reason behind this?

Because it is by far the fairest and most efficient way to create an initial distribution of coins.  If you have an idea for a better way you can, of course, create your own coin using your method.

yeah i searched before posting, and on reddit they don't mention that you only get the coins from the 12th of the month of may, but you get everything prior the 16th of the month, look at this https://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/comments/2pjeh5/heard_about_this_clam_stuff_how_i_got_64_in/

[dooglus]

yeah i searched before posting, and on reddit they don't mention that you only get the coins from the 12th of the month of may, but you get everything prior the 16th of the month, look at this https://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/comments/2pjeh5/heard_about_this_clam_stuff_how_i_got_64_in/

I don't know why the particular block heights were chosen. I didn't hear about CLAM until a while after it launched.

The specific blocks at which the snapshots were taken:

   BTC block 300377 (2014-05-12 12:48:17)
   LTC block 565693 (2014-05-12 13:06:31)
  DOGE block 218556 (2014-05-12 13:09:17)

[SISAR]

Trade volume increasing, much room upwards! 

[Ayers]

yeah i searched before posting, and on reddit they don't mention that you only get the coins from the 12th of the month of may, but you get everything prior the 16th of the month, look at this https://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/comments/2pjeh5/heard_about_this_clam_stuff_how_i_got_64_in/

I don't know why the particular block heights were chosen. I didn't hear about CLAM until a while after it launched.

The specific blocks at which the snapshots were taken:

   BTC block 300377 (2014-05-12 12:48:17)
   LTC block 565693 (2014-05-12 13:06:31)
  DOGE block 218556 (2014-05-12 13:09:17)

but why on reddit they are implying otherwise? i find it strange that you have only one day windows for the claiming, it make more sense if there was a range of days, well i think i'm going to throw a wallet at it and see what i can get

[chilly2k]

yeah i searched before posting, and on reddit they don't mention that you only get the coins from the 12th of the month of may, but you get everything prior the 16th of the month, look at this https://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/comments/2pjeh5/heard_about_this_clam_stuff_how_i_got_64_in/

I don't know why the particular block heights were chosen. I didn't hear about CLAM until a while after it launched.

The specific blocks at which the snapshots were taken:

   BTC block 300377 (2014-05-12 12:48:17)
   LTC block 565693 (2014-05-12 13:06:31)
  DOGE block 218556 (2014-05-12 13:09:17)

but why on reddit they are implying otherwise? i find it strange that you have only one day windows for the claiming, it make more sense if there was a range of days, well i think i'm going to throw a wallet at it and see what i can get

   Reddit is wrong.  It's a snapshot.   It was all addresses that had non-dust amounts at that second in time.  This is the same process that millions of other coins have done.  Take ETH/ETC, if you had ETH when there block chain forked, you had just as many ETC.  This is almost the same.  If you had BTC/LTC/DOGE at the snapshot time, in an address, you got clams.  Actually you have forever to claim them, but you only got them if you had addresses at the snapshot time. 

   They took a snap shot of each block chain.  Calculated what addresses had non-dust amounts still in them at that point.  Then preloaded the clams blockchain with 4.3 clams per clams address that corrosponded to the BTC/LTC/DOGE address.   

[jpcfan]

j/k

[myhoho]

 Is it still possible to find a bootstrap file somewhere?

[BayAreaCoins]

Is it still possible to find a bootstrap file somewhere?

Yes.  Use your eyes and search button or check the Just-Dice.com FAQ.