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Author Topic: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin"  (Read 1150753 times)
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May 01, 2017, 09:31:41 AM
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any news on CLAM?.....WHY RISING?
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May 01, 2017, 09:36:49 AM
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any news on CLAM?.....WHY RISING?

All the Alts are rising..
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May 01, 2017, 10:52:16 AM
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Am i late to clam party? or its still a good price to buy?
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May 01, 2017, 07:14:45 PM
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Is there anyway to clam clams from a mobile wallet?

Yes

You just need to be able to get to the .dat or the private key. 



That's the issue. Mobile only provides encrypted key and no .dat so not able to find a compatible wallet
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May 02, 2017, 02:14:03 AM
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Is there anyway to clam clams from a mobile wallet?

Yes

You just need to be able to get to the .dat or the private key. 



That's the issue. Mobile only provides encrypted key and no .dat so not able to find a compatible wallet

Which mobile wallet are you using? Each different wallet probably handles it differently but there is probably a way to recover the private keys for the addresses in some manner.
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May 02, 2017, 02:30:23 PM
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Take ETH/ETC, if you had ETH when there block chain forked, you had just as many ETC.  This is almost the same.
It is actually not even remotely the same, for better or worse. Giving equal amounts to near-dust as large balances enormously changes the distribution.
In the sense of being a snapshot of a single block, I would assume that part is correct but I wasn't around and haven't looked closely so I can't be sure.

This is accurate, including the 'for better or worse'. 
 
The goal of the CLAM distribution was to get CLAM into the hands of the largest possible number of people in the crypto community. 
At the time, the best representation of that group were the networks BTC, LTC and DOGE (all other networks were insignificant by something like an order of magnitude). 
 
Unfortunately, the distribution of Bitcoin (especially at the time of CLAM's launch) resembled what in 'altcoin' parlance would be called an insta-mine. 
Of course, this 'insta-mine' occurred over a quite long period of time during the nascent early years of BTC, as opposed to a strategic operation as in a scamcoin. 
 
There was talk of simply hand-eliminating coinbase outputs and/or specific known addresses. 
However, that solution was untenable and subjective. 
 
Distributing based on addresses introduces secondary problems, however. 
For instance, gambling services and faucets often create a large number of outputs/addresses. 
The elimination of small outputs (using the objective measure of the network's dust parameter) was introduced to help limit this issue. 
 
The choice to base the distribution on addresses was an imperfect attempt to distribute the funds in an even manner to the widest possible set of active crypto users. 
Judging by the large percentage of CLAM yet unclaimed, I would suggest the above goal was at least partly met. 

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=623147
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Everyone who owned BTC, LTC, or DOGE at launch got free CLAMS.
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May 02, 2017, 03:11:56 PM
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Take ETH/ETC, if you had ETH when there block chain forked, you had just as many ETC.  This is almost the same.
It is actually not even remotely the same, for better or worse. Giving equal amounts to near-dust as large balances enormously changes the distribution.
In the sense of being a snapshot of a single block, I would assume that part is correct but I wasn't around and haven't looked closely so I can't be sure.

This is accurate, including the 'for better or worse'. 
 
The goal of the CLAM distribution was to get CLAM into the hands of the largest possible number of people in the crypto community. 
At the time, the best representation of that group were the networks BTC, LTC and DOGE (all other networks were insignificant by something like an order of magnitude). 
 
Unfortunately, the distribution of Bitcoin (especially at the time of CLAM's launch) resembled what in 'altcoin' parlance would be called an insta-mine. 
Of course, this 'insta-mine' occurred over a quite long period of time during the nascent early years of BTC, as opposed to a strategic operation as in a scamcoin. 
 
There was talk of simply hand-eliminating coinbase outputs and/or specific known addresses. 
However, that solution was untenable and subjective. 
 
Distributing based on addresses introduces secondary problems, however. 
For instance, gambling services and faucets often create a large number of outputs/addresses. 
The elimination of small outputs (using the objective measure of the network's dust parameter) was introduced to help limit this issue. 
 
The choice to base the distribution on addresses was an imperfect attempt to distribute the funds in an even manner to the widest possible set of active crypto users. 
Judging by the large percentage of CLAM yet unclaimed, I would suggest the above goal was at least partly met. 
I think everyone missed the point I was trying to make.  Although it did lead to an interesting discussion.  I was simple trying to explain that the clams distribution was at a single block height in time.  The OP was asking why it wasn't spread out over several days, or was implying it was.  I was just trying to use the ETH/ETC analogy to help explain the snap shot not the actual distribution.   

But I'm glad everyone is keeping me honest....   Smiley   

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May 02, 2017, 10:14:19 PM
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Hello! i want to claim CLAMS from old DOGE addresses but this site www.clamchecker.com don't work now.Why ? Can i still claim CLAMS or is this now over?
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I have imported my old bitcoin wallet, but still no clams in my balance. Wallet is synced and I had non-zero bitcoin addresses in block 300377. What must I do yet?
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May 03, 2017, 12:47:26 AM
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Hello! i want to claim CLAMS from old DOGE addresses but this site www.clamchecker.com don't work now.Why ? Can i still claim CLAMS or is this now over?

Clamchecker now forwards to FreeBitcoins.com.  FreeBitcoins has a CLAM checker website built into it.

You can check individual wallets here: https://freebitcoins.com/clamchecker/dig/

You can check a whole wallet using the .dat here:  https://freebitcoins.com/clamchecker/dig_wallet/

The fee structure is the same as what ClamChecker.com was (I own both sites).

I have imported my old bitcoin wallet, but still no clams in my balance. Wallet is synced and I had non-zero bitcoin addresses in block 300377. What must I do yet?

-rescan

Perhaps?  I dunno I'm a Windows user, so when in doubt... reboot it out!

Perhaps you should check to see if your address that you believe has clams... actually has clams.  You can do this here without a private key involved.  https://freebitcoins.com/clamchecker/dig/

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May 03, 2017, 01:41:35 AM
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I have imported my old bitcoin wallet, but still no clams in my balance. Wallet is synced and I had non-zero bitcoin addresses in block 300377. What must I do yet?

Post or PM me an example address and I'll take a look.

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May 03, 2017, 09:21:34 AM
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Hi,
What happens when you stake with the same wallet on two different computers?
I am currently investigating possibility to have geographically separated computers to have backed up mining in case of blackouts/Internet connection issues.
Could it cause some issues?
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May 03, 2017, 09:41:52 AM
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i imported my wallet from bitcoin to clam and i received 18 clam, but i had only one transaction in the 12 of may in 2014, why 4 claimin? does the hidden addresses count too?

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May 03, 2017, 10:17:51 AM
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Hello! i want to claim CLAMS from old DOGE addresses but this site www.clamchecker.com don't work now.Why ? Can i still claim CLAMS or is this now over?

Clamchecker now forwards to FreeBitcoins.com.  FreeBitcoins has a CLAM checker website built into it.

You can check individual wallets here: https://freebitcoins.com/clamchecker/dig/

You can check a whole wallet using the .dat here:  https://freebitcoins.com/clamchecker/dig_wallet/

The fee structure is the same as what ClamChecker.com was (I own both sites).
I have file wallet.dat 3GB but i can't download it here https://freebitcoins.com/clamchecker/dig/. I know that I can import for 1 privat key but I can't open it from Dogecoin core because my computer isn't so good for it. Maybe there  is another way to claim CLAM  for me?
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May 03, 2017, 11:49:10 AM
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i imported my wallet from bitcoin to clam and i received 18 clam, but i had only one transaction in the 12 of may in 2014, why 4 claimin? does the hidden addresses count too?

   It's not based on transactions.  It's based on funded addresses that existed at the time of the snap shot.  And yes change addresses(hidden) count too.  

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I have imported my old bitcoin wallet, but still no clams in my balance. Wallet is synced and I had non-zero bitcoin addresses in block 300377. What must I do yet?

Post or PM me an example address and I'll take a look.

- rescan helped me. I think this coin would be more decentralized, if Proof-of-Working-Stake has a limit 1000 or maximum 10000 Clams, because Just-Dice have almost all coins and it is centralized. There is no incentive for users to stake, if exists so big PoSW miner.
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May 03, 2017, 05:16:01 PM
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Hello! i want to claim CLAMS from old DOGE addresses but this site www.clamchecker.com don't work now.Why ? Can i still claim CLAMS or is this now over?

Clamchecker now forwards to FreeBitcoins.com.  FreeBitcoins has a CLAM checker website built into it.

You can check individual wallets here: https://freebitcoins.com/clamchecker/dig/

You can check a whole wallet using the .dat here:  https://freebitcoins.com/clamchecker/dig_wallet/

The fee structure is the same as what ClamChecker.com was (I own both sites).
I have file wallet.dat 3GB but i can't download it here https://freebitcoins.com/clamchecker/dig/. I know that I can import for 1 privat key but I can't open it from Dogecoin core because my computer isn't so good for it. Maybe there  is another way to claim CLAM  for me?

What error is it giving?

We should be able to take any .dat file.  You will get more coins if we can get you to be able to use the wallet digger because it will sniff out change addresses and such.

Don't worry... You're going to get paid one way or the other!

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May 03, 2017, 05:16:42 PM
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I have imported my old bitcoin wallet, but still no clams in my balance. Wallet is synced and I had non-zero bitcoin addresses in block 300377. What must I do yet?

Post or PM me an example address and I'll take a look.

- rescan helped me. I think this coin would be more decentralized, if Proof-of-Working-Stake has a limit 1000 or maximum 10000 Clams, because Just-Dice have almost all coins and it is centralized. There is no incentive for users to stake, if exists so big PoSW miner.

When in doubt... -rescan it out!

Glad that worked for you  Grin!

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May 03, 2017, 10:54:22 PM
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Hello! i want to claim CLAMS from old DOGE addresses but this site www.clamchecker.com don't work now.Why ? Can i still claim CLAMS or is this now over?

Clamchecker now forwards to FreeBitcoins.com.  FreeBitcoins has a CLAM checker website built into it.

You can check individual wallets here: https://freebitcoins.com/clamchecker/dig/

You can check a whole wallet using the .dat here:  https://freebitcoins.com/clamchecker/dig_wallet/

The fee structure is the same as what ClamChecker.com was (I own both sites).
I have file wallet.dat 3GB but i can't download it here https://freebitcoins.com/clamchecker/dig/. I know that I can import for 1 privat key but I can't open it from Dogecoin core because my computer isn't so good for it. Maybe there  is another way to claim CLAM  for me?

What error is it giving?

We should be able to take any .dat file.  You will get more coins if we can get you to be able to use the wallet digger because it will sniff out change addresses and such.

Don't worry... You're going to get paid one way or the other!
I have this error

and I have one more problem... I gave for wallet digger small wallet.dat with 10 address and it told me that I will have CLAM from 5 address from this small wallet.dat. But after i check it by myself and find that there were more than 5 address .
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May 04, 2017, 03:36:53 AM
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Hello! i want to claim CLAMS from old DOGE addresses but this site www.clamchecker.com don't work now.Why ? Can i still claim CLAMS or is this now over?

Clamchecker now forwards to FreeBitcoins.com.  FreeBitcoins has a CLAM checker website built into it.

You can check individual wallets here: https://freebitcoins.com/clamchecker/dig/

You can check a whole wallet using the .dat here:  https://freebitcoins.com/clamchecker/dig_wallet/

The fee structure is the same as what ClamChecker.com was (I own both sites).
I have file wallet.dat 3GB but i can't download it here https://freebitcoins.com/clamchecker/dig/. I know that I can import for 1 privat key but I can't open it from Dogecoin core because my computer isn't so good for it. Maybe there  is another way to claim CLAM  for me?

What error is it giving?

We should be able to take any .dat file.  You will get more coins if we can get you to be able to use the wallet digger because it will sniff out change addresses and such.

Don't worry... You're going to get paid one way or the other!
I have this error

and I have one more problem... I gave for wallet digger small wallet.dat with 10 address and it told me that I will have CLAM from 5 address from this small wallet.dat. But after i check it by myself and find that there were more than 5 address .

I believe that 10 wallet dig would be this one:  https://freebitcoins.com/clamchecker/wallets/id/35/

The system dug 10 addresses and it was paid together with dig number 33, which had 4 wallets.

I'm checking on the error right now.

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