[ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin"

[BayAreaCoins]

Xploited was talking about adding CLAM to something like this sorcery the other day.  I said FreeBitcoins could foot the bill for the transaction if needed.

I'm not at all sure how any of that shit works, but X is looking into it and will likely be doing it I believe.

[IMZ Noo Account]

Xploited was talking about adding CLAM to something like this sorcery the other day.  I said FreeBitcoins could foot the bill for the transaction if needed.

I'm not at all sure how any of that shit works, but X is looking into it and will likely be doing it I believe.

My Ludicrously Naive Understanding is:

You need a full-blockchain QT for the two cryptos in question. And there's a sort of 'Intermediary.' The Intermediary is full-on trustless. You need to have, synched and open and blah blah, all three components: the two crypto QTs and the Intermediary. Then you place an order -- which is only valid while all three components are operating -- and wait. If someone chooses to fill your order, the Intermediary trustlessly handles the transfer of the two sums of cryptos, which 'jump across' from one wallet to the other.

Dexes are the future for serious players, but it'll be bloody years before they start treading on Xchange's toes. And my outfit will help as we can if Xploited chooses to set Clam up on a DEX.

[BayAreaCoins]

Someone moved coins from my old Poloniex deposit address this morning https://clam.tokenview.com/en/tx/a102bbd396d21c7f73880c692fe96cd69898c2827870d7f39a67880e2cb3c69d

xAHwDW5n6Kup8x8a7ffRTkMxBpZxtHy1U2  was my Poloniex deposit address for a long time as I recall. 

Nice volume on FreeBitcoins CLAMS exchange though today... 

Daily Volume: 0.44161261 BTC / 70353.43000000 CLAM

[tbct_mt2]

Someone moved coins from my old Poloniex deposit address this morning https://clam.tokenview.com/en/tx/a102bbd396d21c7f73880c692fe96cd69898c2827870d7f39a67880e2cb3c69d

xAHwDW5n6Kup8x8a7ffRTkMxBpZxtHy1U2  was my Poloniex deposit address for a long time as I recall. 

Do you have coins on Poloniex, only they can move your coins.

I knew Poloniex delisted CLAM 2 or 3 years ago but I don't remember how long the window time they allowed their customers to withdraw CLAM out of Poloniex.

Sounds like you have $CLAM stucked in Poloniex, and if it was stucked, can you share why?

[seoincorporation]

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Do you have coins on Poloniex, only they can move your coins.

I knew Poloniex delisted CLAM 2 or 3 years ago but I don't remember how long the window time they allowed their customers to withdraw CLAM out of Poloniex.

Sounds like you have $CLAM stucked in Poloniex, and if it was stucked, can you share why?

Poliniex delisted CLAM as you say, but I think they keep some clams... And now after the transaction reported by BAC, that only means one thing, Polo is selling some of their clams... Now there is only one trusted place to sell clams and that's freebitcoins.com

Today we can see some 50k clams sell orders, I wouldn't be surprised if some of them come from polo.

And let's wait to see how Yobit does the same, lol.

[BayAreaCoins]

Someone moved coins from my old Poloniex deposit address this morning https://clam.tokenview.com/en/tx/a102bbd396d21c7f73880c692fe96cd69898c2827870d7f39a67880e2cb3c69d

xAHwDW5n6Kup8x8a7ffRTkMxBpZxtHy1U2  was my Poloniex deposit address for a long time as I recall.  

Do you have coins on Poloniex, only they can move your coins.

I knew Poloniex delisted CLAM 2 or 3 years ago but I don't remember how long the window time they allowed their customers to withdraw CLAM out of Poloniex.

Sounds like you have $CLAM stucked in Poloniex, and if it was stucked, can you share why?

I do not have any coins on Poloniex.

However, the address I used to deposit to Poloniex still had coins on it until the other day.

Your blockchain address balance doesn't indicate your Poloniex account balance.

So I would deposit CLAM -> Sell for Bitcoin ->  Withdrawal Bitcoin.   Apparently not everyone withdrew their CLAMS, thus those addresses still having coins on them.

I hope that makes sense.

I'm betting we see a big pop in the CLAM market after all these "hacked" exchanges liquidate their holdings and put the CLAMS back into the ecosystem.

[tbct_mt2]

I do not have any coins on Poloniex.

However, the address I used to deposit to Poloniex still had coins on it until the other day.

Your blockchain address balance doesn't indicate your Poloniex account balance.

So I would deposit CLAM -> Sell for Bitcoin ->  Withdrawal Bitcoin.   Apparently not everyone withdrew their CLAMS, thus those addresses still having coins on them.

I hope that makes sense.

I'm betting we see a big pop in the CLAM market after all these "hacked" exchanges liquidate their holdings and put the CLAMS back into the ecosystem.

It makes sense. Exchanges have rights to take over cryptocurrencies in abandoned or inactive accounts. I remember Poloniex have that rules in their ToS circa 2017 or 2018. I believe other exchanges have similar rules as well.

It can be used as a trap to compromise cryptocurrency amount of customers.

$CLAM used to be a good altcoin for margin trade on Poloniex and it is sad that it has fallen down in price and got delisted on many exchanges.

[BayAreaCoins]

I do not have any coins on Poloniex.

However, the address I used to deposit to Poloniex still had coins on it until the other day.

Your blockchain address balance doesn't indicate your Poloniex account balance.

So I would deposit CLAM -> Sell for Bitcoin ->  Withdrawal Bitcoin.   Apparently not everyone withdrew their CLAMS, thus those addresses still having coins on them.

I hope that makes sense.

I'm betting we see a big pop in the CLAM market after all these "hacked" exchanges liquidate their holdings and put the CLAMS back into the ecosystem.

It makes sense. Exchanges have rights to take over cryptocurrencies in abandoned or inactive accounts. I remember Poloniex have that rules in their ToS circa 2017 or 2018. I believe other exchanges have similar rules as well.

It can be used as a trap to compromise cryptocurrency amount of customers.

$CLAM used to be a good altcoin for margin trade on Poloniex and it is sad that it has fallen down in price and got delisted on many exchanges.

Services can't just change their TOS and be fine to rob their users.

Poloniex has some serious legal issues in its future.

[UserNoOne]

I found some old doge wallets recently and found via the /dig command on a site, several had unclaimed clams. I downloaded the wallet (took forever to sync even with the bootstraps). I imported the priv keys (while syncing) and got the clams but then it has a conflicted sent reference in transactions to an address that doesnt even exist. checkwallet shows are true repairwallet didnt do anything, I ran -rescan on the command line and nothing changed.

I spent 2 weeks to get 30 coins, and now they arent there. What am I missing?

Thanks

[BayAreaCoins]

CLAM blog post I did today on FreeBitcoins.com:  https://freebitcoins.com/blog/clamcoin-clams-exchange/

We are still looking for more CLAM traders to help make books on the new exchange:  https://freebitcoins.com/xchange/market/Bitcoin-Clamcoin

[programmer-frank]

Is there a whitepaper for CLAM? I couldn't find one. I'm particularly interested in a detailed description of the protocol and block format, and how it differs from Bitcoin.

[gembitz]

I do not have any coins on Poloniex.

However, the address I used to deposit to Poloniex still had coins on it until the other day.

Your blockchain address balance doesn't indicate your Poloniex account balance.

So I would deposit CLAM -> Sell for Bitcoin ->  Withdrawal Bitcoin.   Apparently not everyone withdrew their CLAMS, thus those addresses still having coins on them.

I hope that makes sense.

I'm betting we see a big pop in the CLAM market after all these "hacked" exchanges liquidate their holdings and put the CLAMS back into the ecosystem.

It makes sense. Exchanges have rights to take over cryptocurrencies in abandoned or inactive accounts. I remember Poloniex have that rules in their ToS circa 2017 or 2018. I believe other exchanges have similar rules as well.

It can be used as a trap to compromise cryptocurrency amount of customers.

$CLAM used to be a good altcoin for margin trade on Poloniex and it is sad that it has fallen down in price and got delisted on many exchanges.

Services can't just change their TOS and be fine to rob their users.

Poloniex has some serious legal issues in its future.

EVERYONE knew Polo was rekt BEFORE the clam shell game implosion :-P reeeee #goldman

[garthkiser]

Who maintains the claimclient.com server these days? I have been maintaining the domain registration for some years and this week started receiving emails "from cPanel on clamclient.com" stating that AutoSSL will expire in 13 days. Thought maybe there's still somebody here who still has access. As long as the server keeps functioning I'll keep renewing the domain each year.

[BayAreaCoins]

Who maintains the claimclient.com server these days? I have been maintaining the domain registration for some years and this week started receiving emails "from cPanel on clamclient.com" stating that AutoSSL will expire in 13 days. Thought maybe there's still somebody here who still has access. As long as the server keeps functioning I'll keep renewing the domain each year.

Hey, you own Clamclient?

Xploited doesn't know who maintains the server stuff.  I went back through it one time and found some traveling chick... I'd assume it was here.

Worst to worst Im sure X can help out or move it or whatever.

Garth, do you have control of SuperCLAM (bitcointalk profile) or the CLAM Twitter?

[garthkiser]

Hey, you own Clamclient?

Xploited doesn't know who maintains the server stuff.  I went back through it one time and found some traveling chick... I'd assume it was here.

Worst to worst Im sure X can help out or move it or whatever.

Garth, do you have control of SuperCLAM (bitcointalk profile) or the CLAM Twitter?

The only real estate I ever controlled was the clamclient.com domain. It has been several years since I talked to anyone here so not sure where to look either. But hey, Xploited is still around! That's awesome. We used to communicate by email and mine is the same.

[BayAreaCoins]

Hey, you own Clamclient?

Xploited doesn't know who maintains the server stuff.  I went back through it one time and found some traveling chick... I'd assume it was here.

Worst to worst Im sure X can help out or move it or whatever.

Garth, do you have control of SuperCLAM (bitcointalk profile) or the CLAM Twitter?

The only real estate I ever controlled was the clamclient.com domain. It has been several years since I talked to anyone here so not sure where to look either. But hey, Xploited is still around! That's awesome. We used to communicate by email and mine is the same.

Ok, I'll let him know about the email thing.  Just in case we need to update the clamclient and point her somewhere else.


X  was excited that you were still alive too!

[pflip3]

Stupid question but I couldn't find any docs regarding this.

Is there any option to set up different dada dir for the QT client ?

i don't have space in appdata, I want the chain in a different drive.

something like -datadir D:\blah   ??

[Klimax]

Stupid question but I couldn't find any docs regarding this.

Is there any option to set up different dada dir for the QT client ?

i don't have space in appdata, I want the chain in a different drive.

something like -datadir D:\blah   ??

-datadir should work (it is listed in Qt client as valid option)

Alternatively one can use symbolic link.

[SteamboatG]

Can devs add it to AtomicDex? https://github.com/SpaceWorksCo/guides/blob/master/Add-A-Coin-To-AtomicDEX.md

The code needs to have atomic swaps capability, or in other words at least an upgrade to Bitcoin Core 0.13.2 before it can be listed on AtomicDex.
Clams still has code dating back from before 2015 if I look at the Clam client download on the website which is still the same old shit lmao.

[BayAreaCoins]

Can devs add it to AtomicDex? https://github.com/SpaceWorksCo/guides/blob/master/Add-A-Coin-To-AtomicDEX.md

The code needs to have atomic swaps capability, or in other words at least an upgrade to Bitcoin Core 0.13.2 before it can be listed on AtomicDex.
Clams still has code dating back from before 2015 if I look at the Clam client download on the website which is still the same old shit lmao.

You are welcome to update it.  https://github.com/nochowderforyou/clams