Intersango Exchange

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The size of the receive wallet has outgrown the server it was operating on.

I have moved the receive wallet offsite onto a much more powerful system. (This also has the happy coincidence of being -- marginally -- more secure.)

The sent wallet will be moved to the same new system in the next few hours.

Sorry for the delays.

Guess this explains why my withdrawn BTC hasn't shown up yet.

[Herodes]

The size of the receive wallet has outgrown the server it was operating on.

Would not a security expert anticipate this in advance ?

[davout]

The size of the receive wallet has outgrown the server it was operating on.

Would not a security expert anticipate this in advance ?

I deal with the Instawallet shared wallet, which is probably an order of magnitude larger than Intersango's, and yes, it takes a little while to boot up, but when it's done it runs fine and smooth.

Now that I think about it, it might be that they're using the 'accounts' feature of bitcoind, which scales terribly. So guys, protip, use a monitortx patch and let bitcoind notify your backend, just poll the client to update confirmation counts once it notifies you of an incoming block.

[phantomcircuit]

The size of the receive wallet has outgrown the server it was operating on.

Would not a security expert anticipate this in advance ?

I deal with the Instawallet shared wallet, which is probably an order of magnitude larger than Intersango's, and yes, it takes a little while to boot up, but when it's done it runs fine and smooth.

Now that I think about it, it might be that they're using the 'accounts' feature of bitcoind, which scales terribly. So guys, protip, use a monitortx patch and let bitcoind notify your backend, just poll the client to update confirmation counts once it notifies you of an incoming block.

I seriously doubt that.

The wallet for intersango is probably larger than any other wallet except gox (who dont use bitcoind).

We've had people running arbitrage bots 24/7 for essentially a year at this point.

That's a LOT of transactions to record.

And no we dont use accounts, I was probably the first person to vocally tell people to not use that particular "feature".

Anyways this was triggered by someone spamming the wallet with a very larger number of small transactions, of course I've always known this could be an issue but dealing with it is mostly a matter of money I didn't do anything about it.

[norulezapply]

Patrick what's happening with the withdrawals?

Are they down until the 26th to the 30th?

Or are they down now until the some time between the 26th and 30th?

[Herodes]

Does Intersango send transactions on the block chain for in house trading ? Gox only moves numbers in a database, any reason that Intersango doesn't do the same (if I understand it correctly).

Also, could you answer this Patrick:

wget --no-check-certificate https://intersango.com/api/ticker.php?currency_pair_id=3 returns

Code:

{"last":"7.77700","vol":"395.76003","buy":"7.65000","sell":"7.76922"}

How do I get 'high', 'low' and 'avg' ?

I've looked around at your Api documentation page ( https://intersango.com/api.php), but couldn't seem to find the answer to this.

And why is https://bitcoinconsultancy.com/wiki/Intersango/API linked from https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Intersango/API unavailable ? It seems like bitcoinconsultancy.com have been down (http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/bitcoinconsultancy.com) for a while.

You've dubbed yourselves security experts, I take it that the takedown of bitcoinconsultancy.com means you're no longer calling yourselves security experts ? (tounge-in-cheek)

[rjk]

You've dubbed yourselves security experts, I take it that the takedown of bitcoinconsultancy.com means you're no longer calling yourselves security experts ? (tounge-in-cheek)

The most secure system is one that is off.

[phantomcircuit]

Does Intersango send transactions on the block chain for in house trading ? Gox only moves numbers in a database, any reason that Intersango doesn't do the same (if I understand it correctly).

Also, could you answer this Patrick:

wget --no-check-certificate https://intersango.com/api/ticker.php?currency_pair_id=3 returns

Code:

{"last":"7.77700","vol":"395.76003","buy":"7.65000","sell":"7.76922"}

How do I get 'high', 'low' and 'avg' ?

Pull trades and calculate them yourself. I dont include them because it's an unnecessary calculation for us to make.

I've looked around at your Api documentation page ( https://intersango.com/api.php), but couldn't seem to find the answer to this.

And why is https://bitcoinconsultancy.com/wiki/Intersango/API linked from https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Intersango/API unavailable ? It seems like bitcoinconsultancy.com have been down (http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/bitcoinconsultancy.com) for a while.

You've dubbed yourselves security experts, I take it that the takedown of bitcoinconsultancy.com means you're no longer calling yourselves security experts ? (tounge-in-cheek)

I have better things to do than review the entire SQL dump for bitcoinconsultancy.com

All the api information is on intersango.com

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[davout]

Pull trades and calculate them yourself. I dont include them because it's an unnecessary calculation for us to make.

That pretty much sums it all up

[Herodes]

Does Intersango send transactions on the block chain for in house trading ? Gox only moves numbers in a database, any reason that Intersango doesn't do the same (if I understand it correctly).

Also, could you answer this Patrick:

wget --no-check-certificate https://intersango.com/api/ticker.php?currency_pair_id=3 returns

Code:

{"last":"7.77700","vol":"395.76003","buy":"7.65000","sell":"7.76922"}

How do I get 'high', 'low' and 'avg' ?

Pull trades and calculate them yourself. I dont include them because it's an unnecessary calculation for us to make.

I've looked around at your Api documentation page ( https://intersango.com/api.php), but couldn't seem to find the answer to this.

And why is https://bitcoinconsultancy.com/wiki/Intersango/API linked from https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Intersango/API unavailable ? It seems like bitcoinconsultancy.com have been down (http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/bitcoinconsultancy.com) for a while.

You've dubbed yourselves security experts, I take it that the takedown of bitcoinconsultancy.com means you're no longer calling yourselves security experts ? (tounge-in-cheek)

I have better things to do than review the entire SQL dump for bitcoinconsultancy.com

All the api information is on intersango.com

Thanks for the reply. Is there any reason why it is unecessary for you to calculate this ? Seems like mtGox and BTCe manages to do it well and provide it in their tickers.

I think this quote could be in place, posted by Genjix yesterday:

Tihan 26/05/12 02:22:

- Several other high-priority safety issues were identified to the Bitcoinica Consultancy team members at the time they took over operations.  For example a github issue tracker shows these items remained unaddressed: "Gox credentials are easy to steal (!)",   " Wallet.dat not being backed up (!)"  It was these types of security risks that Bitcoinica Consultancy was specifically brought in to address.

I guess those issues were unecessary to fix as well ?

[norulezapply]

I have better things to do than review the entire SQL dump for bitcoinconsultancy.com

How about replying to my question about intersango withdrawals?

For your convienience, I'll post it again here:

Patrick what's happening with the withdrawals?

Are they down until the 26th to the 30th?

Or are they down now until the some time between the 26th and 30th?

[bulanula]

I have better things to do than review the entire SQL dump for bitcoinconsultancy.com

How about replying to my question about intersango withdrawals?

For your convienience, I'll post it again here:

Patrick what's happening with the withdrawals?

Are they down until the 26th to the 30th?

Or are they down now until the some time between the 26th and 30th?

I am also worried about leaving any BTC / GBP on this exchange.

Someone needs to confirm they have received withdrawals in their UK bank accounts from these guys in the last days or so before I can trust them ...

[norulezapply]

I have better things to do than review the entire SQL dump for bitcoinconsultancy.com

How about replying to my question about intersango withdrawals?

For your convienience, I'll post it again here:

Patrick what's happening with the withdrawals?

Are they down until the 26th to the 30th?

Or are they down now until the some time between the 26th and 30th?

I am also worried about leaving any BTC / GBP on this exchange.

Someone needs to confirm they have received withdrawals in their UK bank accounts from these guys in the last days or so before I can trust them ...

I hate to do this but....


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[bulanula]

I have better things to do than review the entire SQL dump for bitcoinconsultancy.com

How about replying to my question about intersango withdrawals?

For your convienience, I'll post it again here:

Patrick what's happening with the withdrawals?

Are they down until the 26th to the 30th?

Or are they down now until the some time between the 26th and 30th?

I am also worried about leaving any BTC / GBP on this exchange.

Someone needs to confirm they have received withdrawals in their UK bank accounts from these guys in the last days or so before I can trust them ...

I hate to do this but....


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No need to hate getting the truth out.

Much rather question authority than get scammed IMHO.

I really hope things do work out because Gox is not an option for me without a UK bank account. I don't want to pay wire fees etc.

I am not putting anything in there until this gets sorted out or something happens because the risk is immense.

If Bitcoinica got "hacked" how do we know that Intersango will not also get "pseudo-hacked" and we loose all our money as with the latter

[disclaimer201]

I have better things to do than review the entire SQL dump for bitcoinconsultancy.com

How about replying to my question about intersango withdrawals?

For your convienience, I'll post it again here:

Patrick what's happening with the withdrawals?

Are they down until the 26th to the 30th?

Or are they down now until the some time between the 26th and 30th?

I am also worried about leaving any BTC / GBP on this exchange.

Someone needs to confirm they have received withdrawals in their UK bank accounts from these guys in the last days or so before I can trust them ...

I hate to do this but....


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No need to hate getting the truth out.

Much rather question authority than get scammed IMHO.

I really hope things do work out because Gox is not an option for me without a UK bank account. I don't want to pay wire fees etc.

I am not putting anything in there until this gets sorted out or something happens because the risk is immense.

If Bitcoinica got "hacked" how do we know that Intersango will not also get "pseudo-hacked" and we loose all our money as with the latter

You're seeing it wrong. If you claim they were "pseudo-hacked" people will rightfully ask you for your evidence. As I see it it must be personal. Intersango was probably hacked, too. As often as it happened while they were in charge before it could happen yet another time. The only option is they must have fallen victim to a targeted attack against anything Bitcoinica (Consultancy) and Intersango. Someone wants to destroy them.

[matthewh3]

Intersango GBP deposits are usually fast but its now been over 24hrs since I made my transfer    What happened to deposits being processes seven times a day 

[norulezapply]

Intersango GBP deposits are usually fast but its now been over 24hrs since I made my transfer    What happened to deposits being processes seven times a day 

Last withdrawal I made a month ago didn't go through for a good week or so until I contacted support and asked them about it.

Not sure what the state of withdrawals is at the moment though. I'd definitely like to find out though as I've got coins waiting for a buyer...

[matthewh3]

Intersango GBP deposits are usually fast but its now been over 24hrs since I made my transfer    What happened to deposits being processes seven times a day 

Last withdrawal I made a month ago didn't go through for a good week or so until I contacted support and asked them about it.

Not sure what the state of withdrawals is at the moment though. I'd definitely like to find out though as I've got coins waiting for a buyer...

Contacted support and money cleared almost straight away.

[phantomcircuit]

I have better things to do than review the entire SQL dump for bitcoinconsultancy.com

How about replying to my question about intersango withdrawals?

For your convienience, I'll post it again here:

Patrick what's happening with the withdrawals?

Are they down until the 26th to the 30th?

Or are they down now until the some time between the 26th and 30th?

It's between the 26th and the 30th.