NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs

[freigeist]

Make no mistake......there is Power in this movement !!!!!!!  

Great devs

Great projects behind the scenes

Great big number of Nemsters.


ps. only 11 posts to beat Nxt

Have you counted the posts in all NXT  and NEM threads on this forum?!

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[nembit86]

Make no mistake......there is Power in this movement !!!!!!!  

Great devs

Great projects behind the scenes

Great big number of Nemsters.


ps. only 11 posts to beat Nxt

Have you counted the posts in all NXT  and NEM threads on this forum?!

Nope....have you got good news for me ?

[nzminer]

everyone vote please we a close behind nxt!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=915569.0

lol i started this poll for obvious reasons, Personally im a big fan OF NEM and NXT, so i personally have not voted.

[nembit86]

everyone vote please we a close behind nxt!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=915569.0

lol i started this poll for obvious reasons, Personally im a big fan OF NEM and NXT, so i personally have not voted.

Well done. It will be interesting to see how it ends.

[freigeist]

ps. only 11 posts to beat Nxt

Have you counted the posts in all NXT  and NEM threads on this forum?!

Nope....have you got good news for me ?

Nope! I haven't counted!
I just asked as your statement looked really convincing
like you have verified!

[nembit86]

ps. only 11 posts to beat Nxt

Have you counted the posts in all NXT  and NEM threads on this forum?!

Nope....have you got good news for me ?

Nope! I haven't counted!
I just asked as your statement looked really convincing
like you have verified!

I was referring to the voting taking place on BTT forum. The link is in the thread above if you havnt voted ?
Its Nxt 80 votes to Nem 65 I think at the moment.

[Eadeqa]

everyone vote please we a close behind nxt!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=915569.0

lol i started this poll for obvious reasons, Personally im a big fan OF NEM and NXT, so i personally have not voted.

This is a stupid fanboyish vote. People who are voting in it are fanboys and none of them even know anything about cryptography.

Nem is closed source. Does anyone even know what elliptic curve it's using? Nothing is known about nem crypto to vote.

Talk about idiots fanboy drones who will just vote blindly on faith. Probably they behave same way in real life.

[Eadeqa]

@everyone.

DO NOT RISE TO TROLLS.

So can you tell us what EC curve nem is using? Have people who are voting have seen the source code, and are they qualified to vote on matters that is in something as complex as cryptography which is extremely specialized field of mathematics?

[salsacz]

Can you fill the questionnaire?

NEM
Operational	No
Consensus Mechanism	PoI
Block Production TIme
Recommended Confirmation Time
Worst Case for Confirmation Time
Transaction Load	tps
Anonymous Transactions
Transaction Fee Costs
Network Security Costs
Share Supply	billion
Share Divisibility (precision)	8 decimal places
Profit Sharing	yes/no/In Development
Market Pegged Assets	yes/no/In Development
User Issued Assets	yes/no/In Development
Order Matching	yes/no/In Development
User Registered Accounts	yes/no/In Development
Messaging	yes/no/In Development
Cross-Chain Trading Support	yes/no/In Development
Multisignature	yes/no/In Development
Smart Contracts	yes/no/In Development
Hardware Wallet	yes/no/In Development
Mobile Wallet	yes/no/In Development
Decentralised Exchange	yes/no/In Development
Pruning	yes/no/In Development
Voting System	yes/no/In Development
Instant Transactions	yes/no/In Development
Automated Transactions	yes/no/In Development
Mesh Networking	yes/no/In Development
Account Control	yes/no/In Development
Marketplace	yes/no/In Development
Brain Wallet	yes/no/In Development
Alias System	yes/no/In Development
Encyrpted Blockchain Messaging	yes/no/In Development
Merchant Tools	yes/no/In Development
Inflation	%

 

[makoto1337]

everyone vote please we a close behind nxt!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=915569.0

lol i started this poll for obvious reasons, Personally im a big fan OF NEM and NXT, so i personally have not voted.

This is a stupid fanboyish vote. People who are voting in it are fanboys and none of them even know anything about cryptography.

Nem is closed source. Does anyone even know what elliptic curve it's using? Nothing is known about nem crypto to vote.

Talk about idiots fanboy drones who will just vote blindly on faith. Probably they behave same way in real life.

NCC src is here: https://github.com/NewEconomyMovement/NemCommunityClient

elliptic curve: "Switched elliptic curve from secp256k1 to ed25519: Ed25519 is a state of the art elliptic curve. Verification of signatures is about 6 times faster for ed25519. This will speed up the synchronization process."
src. https://forum.nemcoin.com/beta-launch-discussion/nem-beta-is-here!/

NIS will be open in the future, though several people have already decompiled it.

[Damelon]

quoting simply because this is ridiculous behaviour(especially coming from someone highly involved in nxt marketing iirc) and i want to set it in stone.

Cross posting this from Nxt forum, because I feel there is some miscommunication here

https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/this-is-who-you-picked-to-do-marketing-for-nxt/msg147255/#msg147255

I think salsa posted this so we can work on this: https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/help-design-a-comparative-matrix-for-presentation-and-nxt-wiki/msg147223/#new

As I read it, it's just a question of filling it in so we have accurate info on that matrix, nothing more.

The post comes in the middle of some less fun discussion on your thread which indeed is about just a poll.

Polls on BCT are fun, but their information value is next to useless, I agree with that.

Anyway, as the person who asked to make this matrix, I apologise if you guys feel slighted by it.

That is certainly nót the intention and I hope you know me well enough to know this.

[salsacz]

Can you fill the questionnaire?

this is who you picked to do NEM? kodtycoon: is this what nxt calls marketing? salsacz is a big part of the marketing team right? perhaps nxt should consider employing marketing staff with a bit more maturity than those you would find in nursery school? and this is what nem gets for being 15 points behind on a poll that means nothing? grow the hell up salsacz, aren't you a grown man? if so, start acting like one.  your acting like child and trying to be "the man" on the internet at the same time. it doesnt work, it makes you look like an idiot, and it pisses everyone of for no reason. i mean seriously.. posting this because of a stupid poll? wow... whats guna happen if nem over takes nxt on CMC? death threats? i know the vast majority of people in nxt are extremely nice and do not behave in this manner, its always the case where a few bad apples spoil the bunch so apologies to those good people for the rant but i couldnt keep my mouth shut. friggin child... edeaqa's worse but he isnt a marketing guy or someone that has made contacts at conferences etc. just to note, this was entirely and utterly unprovoked. it was quite obviously a follow up comment to edeaqas "source not released" comments. not a bad word was said anywhere to provoke salsacz or Edeaqa. the two of them should be excommunicated if you ask me anyway.. rant over..

quoting simply because this is ridiculous behaviour(especially coming from someone highly involved in nxt marketing iirc) and i want to set it in stone.

all those questions were created by blackcoin and bitshares here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cZ9cnQfvjuy7b2zjGmew79aRTIWJ6Jbj5pCgZtiJC3Y/edit#gid=0
http://wiki.bitshares.org/index.php/Why_choose_Bitshares%3F#Comparison_of_BitShares_and_Other_Platforms

so will you fill it or not

[amytheplanarshift]

everyone vote please we a close behind nxt!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=915569.0

lol i started this poll for obvious reasons, Personally im a big fan OF NEM and NXT, so i personally have not voted.

This is a stupid fanboyish vote. People who are voting in it are fanboys and none of them even know anything about cryptography.

Nem is closed source. Does anyone even know what elliptic curve it's using? Nothing is known about nem crypto to vote.

Talk about idiots fanboy drones who will just vote blindly on faith. Probably they behave same way in real life.

NCC src is here: https://github.com/NewEconomyMovement/NemCommunityClient

elliptic curve: "Switched elliptic curve from secp256k1 to ed25519: Ed25519 is a state of the art elliptic curve. Verification of signatures is about 6 times faster for ed25519. This will speed up the synchronization process."
src. https://forum.nemcoin.com/beta-launch-discussion/nem-beta-is-here!/

NIS will be open in the future, though several people have already decompiled it.

/endthread

[Damelon]

Gives the scroll button a workout!

[makoto1337]

I tried my best to answer this, though it seems that some of the categories are arbitrary. Maybe someone else can comment if they disagree with me.

NEM
Operational	No
Consensus Mechanism	POI
Block Production Time	60s
Recommended Confirmation Time	10 blocks
Worst Case for Confirmation Time	360 blocks
Transaction Load	2 tps
Anonymous Transactions	Future TBD
Transaction Fee Costs	Progressive
Network Security Costs	Transaction Fees
Share Supply	8.99 billion
Share Divisibility (precision)	6 decimal places
Profit Sharing	no
Market Pegged Assets	In Development
User Issued Assets	In Development
Order Matching	In Development
User Registered Accounts	In Development
Messaging	yes
Cross-Chain Trading Support	In Development
Multisignature	Yes
Smart Contracts	In Development
Hardware Wallet	In Development
Mobile Wallet	In Development
Decentralised Exchange	In Development
Pruning	In Development
Voting System	In Development
Instant Transactions	In Development
Automated Transactions	In Development
Mesh Networking	In Development
Account Control	In Developmentt
Marketplace	In Development
Brain Wallet	In Development
Alias System	In Development
Encrypted Blockchain Messaging	yes
Merchant Tools	In Development
Inflation	0%

Regarding TPS: this is still being looked into. We did extensive tests and exceeding 120 trans/block makes the blocks too big for people with poor internet connections to share with their peers easily. We may increase the number of transactions in the future based on the health of the network and usage (e.g., avg size of attached messages, etc).

[Damelon]

I tried my best to answer this, though it seems that some of the categories are arbitrary. Maybe someone else can comment if they disagree with me.

Yes, please add things or put question marks where needed

Thanks for filling it out!

[makoto1337]

quoting simply because this is ridiculous behaviour(especially coming from someone highly involved in nxt marketing iirc) and i want to set it in stone.

Cross posting this from Nxt forum, because I feel there is some miscommunication here

https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/this-is-who-you-picked-to-do-marketing-for-nxt/msg147255/#msg147255

I think salsa posted this so we can work on this: https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/help-design-a-comparative-matrix-for-presentation-and-nxt-wiki/msg147223/#new

As I read it, it's just a question of filling it in so we have accurate info on that matrix, nothing more.

The post comes in the middle of some less fun discussion on your thread which indeed is about just a poll.

Polls on BCT are fun, but their information value is next to useless, I agree with that.

Anyway, as the person who asked to make this matrix, I apologise if you guys feel slighted by it.

That is certainly nót the intention and I hope you know me well enough to know this.

yes my mistake already solved on nxtforum deepest apologies to salsacz. purely bad timing following edeaqa's posts.

ps. could we remove all the lists except one? :L its guna make the page awfully long

This is called "priming." It's interesting that introducing bias can have a large impact on subsequent perception.

[salsacz]

thanks, Lon. Missed you in HK conf. Will you be in upcoming Singapore/Shanghai/HK confs?

[rockethead]

I tried my best to answer this, though it seems that some of the categories are arbitrary. Maybe someone else can comment if they disagree with me.

NEM
Operational	No
Consensus Mechanism	POI
Block Production Time	60s
Recommended Confirmation Time	10 blocks
Worst Case for Confirmation Time	360 blocks
Transaction Load	2 tps
Anonymous Transactions	Future TBD
Transaction Fee Costs	Progressive
Network Security Costs	Transaction Fees
Share Supply	8.99 billion
Share Divisibility (precision)	6 decimal places
Profit Sharing	no
Market Pegged Assets	In Development
User Issued Assets	In Development
Order Matching	In Development
User Registered Accounts	In Development
Messaging	yes
Cross-Chain Trading Support	In Development
Multisignature	Yes
Smart Contracts	In Development
Hardware Wallet	In Development
Mobile Wallet	In Development
Decentralised Exchange	In Development
Pruning	In Development
Voting System	In Development
Instant Transactions	In Development
Automated Transactions	In Development
Mesh Networking	In Development
Account Control	In Developmentt
Marketplace	In Development
Brain Wallet	In Development
Alias System	In Development
Encrypted Blockchain Messaging	yes
Merchant Tools	In Development
Inflation	0%

Regarding TPS: this is still being looked into. We did extensive tests and exceeding 120 trans/block makes the blocks too big for people with poor internet connections to share with their peers easily. We may increase the number of transactions in the future based on the health of the network and usage (e.g., avg size of attached messages, etc).

I believe ours is a mesh network. If it is multi-node to multi-node communication, it is a mesh, which is our case.

[Eadeqa]

elliptic curve: "Switched elliptic curve from secp256k1 to ed25519: Ed25519 is a state of the art elliptic curve. Verification of signatures is about 6 times faster for ed25519. This will speed up the synchronization process."

Last time I looked it up, there were no good (reviewed) / fast implementations of Ed25519 in Java. What library are using for Ed25519 ?