freigeist
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January 07, 2015, 09:52:43 PM |
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Make no mistake......there is Power in this movement !!!!!!!
Great devs
Great projects behind the scenes
Great big number of Nemsters.
ps. only 11 posts to beat Nxt
Have you counted the posts in all NXT and NEM threads on this forum?!
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nembit86
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January 07, 2015, 10:08:14 PM |
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Make no mistake......there is Power in this movement !!!!!!!
Great devs
Great projects behind the scenes
Great big number of Nemsters.
ps. only 11 posts to beat Nxt
Have you counted the posts in all NXT and NEM threads on this forum?! Nope....have you got good news for me ?
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nzminer
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January 07, 2015, 10:23:01 PM |
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lol i started this poll for obvious reasons, Personally im a big fan OF NEM and NXT, so i personally have not voted.
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NEM, THE SECURE, SCALABLE BLOCKCHAIN [NEM.IO] [T.ME/NEMRED]
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nembit86
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January 07, 2015, 10:32:35 PM |
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lol i started this poll for obvious reasons, Personally im a big fan OF NEM and NXT, so i personally have not voted. Well done. It will be interesting to see how it ends.
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freigeist
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January 07, 2015, 10:34:22 PM |
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ps. only 11 posts to beat Nxt
Have you counted the posts in all NXT and NEM threads on this forum?! Nope....have you got good news for me ? Nope! I haven't counted! I just asked as your statement looked really convincing like you have verified!
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nembit86
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January 07, 2015, 10:38:48 PM |
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ps. only 11 posts to beat Nxt
Have you counted the posts in all NXT and NEM threads on this forum?! Nope....have you got good news for me ? Nope! I haven't counted! I just asked as your statement looked really convincing like you have verified! I was referring to the voting taking place on BTT forum. The link is in the thread above if you havnt voted ? Its Nxt 80 votes to Nem 65 I think at the moment.
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Eadeqa
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January 07, 2015, 10:45:01 PM |
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lol i started this poll for obvious reasons, Personally im a big fan OF NEM and NXT, so i personally have not voted. This is a stupid fanboyish vote. People who are voting in it are fanboys and none of them even know anything about cryptography. Nem is closed source. Does anyone even know what elliptic curve it's using? Nothing is known about nem crypto to vote. Talk about idiots fanboy drones who will just vote blindly on faith. Probably they behave same way in real life.
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Eadeqa
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January 07, 2015, 10:53:46 PM |
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@everyone.
DO NOT RISE TO TROLLS.
So can you tell us what EC curve nem is using? Have people who are voting have seen the source code, and are they qualified to vote on matters that is in something as complex as cryptography which is extremely specialized field of mathematics?
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salsacz
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January 07, 2015, 11:03:23 PM |
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Can you fill the questionnaire? NEM | Operational | No | Consensus Mechanism | PoI | Block Production TIme | | Recommended Confirmation Time | | Worst Case for Confirmation Time | | Transaction Load | tps | Anonymous Transactions | | Transaction Fee Costs | | Network Security Costs | | Share Supply | billion | Share Divisibility (precision) | 8 decimal places | Profit Sharing | yes/no/In Development | Market Pegged Assets | yes/no/In Development | User Issued Assets | yes/no/In Development | Order Matching | yes/no/In Development | User Registered Accounts | yes/no/In Development | Messaging | yes/no/In Development | Cross-Chain Trading Support | yes/no/In Development | Multisignature | yes/no/In Development | Smart Contracts | yes/no/In Development | Hardware Wallet | yes/no/In Development | Mobile Wallet | yes/no/In Development | Decentralised Exchange | yes/no/In Development | Pruning | yes/no/In Development | Voting System | yes/no/In Development | Instant Transactions | yes/no/In Development | Automated Transactions | yes/no/In Development | Mesh Networking | yes/no/In Development | Account Control | yes/no/In Development | Marketplace | yes/no/In Development | Brain Wallet | yes/no/In Development | Alias System | yes/no/In Development | Encyrpted Blockchain Messaging | yes/no/In Development | Merchant Tools | yes/no/In Development | Inflation | % |
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makoto1337
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January 08, 2015, 12:10:36 AM |
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lol i started this poll for obvious reasons, Personally im a big fan OF NEM and NXT, so i personally have not voted. This is a stupid fanboyish vote. People who are voting in it are fanboys and none of them even know anything about cryptography. Nem is closed source. Does anyone even know what elliptic curve it's using? Nothing is known about nem crypto to vote. Talk about idiots fanboy drones who will just vote blindly on faith. Probably they behave same way in real life. NCC src is here: https://github.com/NewEconomyMovement/NemCommunityClientelliptic curve: "Switched elliptic curve from secp256k1 to ed25519: Ed25519 is a state of the art elliptic curve. Verification of signatures is about 6 times faster for ed25519. This will speed up the synchronization process." src. https://forum.nemcoin.com/beta-launch-discussion/nem-beta-is-here!/ NIS will be open in the future, though several people have already decompiled it.
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salsacz
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January 08, 2015, 12:43:21 AM Last edit: January 08, 2015, 01:34:53 AM by salsacz |
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Can you fill the questionnaire? this is who you picked to do NEM?
kodtycoon:
is this what nxt calls marketing? salsacz is a big part of the marketing team right? perhaps nxt should consider employing marketing staff with a bit more maturity than those you would find in nursery school? and this is what nem gets for being 15 points behind on a poll that means nothing? grow the hell up salsacz, aren't you a grown man? if so, start acting like one. your acting like child and trying to be "the man" on the internet at the same time. it doesnt work, it makes you look like an idiot, and it pisses everyone of for no reason. i mean seriously.. posting this because of a stupid poll? wow... whats guna happen if nem over takes nxt on CMC? death threats? i know the vast majority of people in nxt are extremely nice and do not behave in this manner, its always the case where a few bad apples spoil the bunch so apologies to those good people for the rant but i couldnt keep my mouth shut. friggin child... edeaqa's worse but he isnt a marketing guy or someone that has made contacts at conferences etc. just to note, this was entirely and utterly unprovoked. it was quite obviously a follow up comment to edeaqas "source not released" comments. not a bad word was said anywhere to provoke salsacz or Edeaqa. the two of them should be excommunicated if you ask me anyway.. rant over.. |
quoting simply because this is ridiculous behaviour(especially coming from someone highly involved in nxt marketing iirc) and i want to set it in stone. all those questions were created by blackcoin and bitshares here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cZ9cnQfvjuy7b2zjGmew79aRTIWJ6Jbj5pCgZtiJC3Y/edit#gid=0http://wiki.bitshares.org/index.php/Why_choose_Bitshares%3F#Comparison_of_BitShares_and_Other_Platformsso will you fill it or not
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amytheplanarshift
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January 08, 2015, 12:54:55 AM |
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lol i started this poll for obvious reasons, Personally im a big fan OF NEM and NXT, so i personally have not voted. This is a stupid fanboyish vote. People who are voting in it are fanboys and none of them even know anything about cryptography. Nem is closed source. Does anyone even know what elliptic curve it's using? Nothing is known about nem crypto to vote. Talk about idiots fanboy drones who will just vote blindly on faith. Probably they behave same way in real life. NCC src is here: https://github.com/NewEconomyMovement/NemCommunityClientelliptic curve: "Switched elliptic curve from secp256k1 to ed25519: Ed25519 is a state of the art elliptic curve. Verification of signatures is about 6 times faster for ed25519. This will speed up the synchronization process." src. https://forum.nemcoin.com/beta-launch-discussion/nem-beta-is-here!/ NIS will be open in the future, though several people have already decompiled it. /endthread
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Damelon
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January 08, 2015, 01:08:36 AM |
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Gives the scroll button a workout!
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makoto1337
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January 08, 2015, 01:09:14 AM Last edit: January 08, 2015, 02:03:14 AM by makoto1337 |
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I tried my best to answer this, though it seems that some of the categories are arbitrary. Maybe someone else can comment if they disagree with me. NEM | Operational | No | Consensus Mechanism | POI | Block Production Time | 60s | Recommended Confirmation Time | 10 blocks | Worst Case for Confirmation Time | 360 blocks | Transaction Load | 2 tps | Anonymous Transactions | Future TBD | Transaction Fee Costs | Progressive | Network Security Costs | Transaction Fees | Share Supply | 8.99 billion | Share Divisibility (precision) | 6 decimal places | Profit Sharing | no | Market Pegged Assets | In Development | User Issued Assets | In Development | Order Matching | In Development | User Registered Accounts | In Development | Messaging | yes | Cross-Chain Trading Support | In Development | Multisignature | Yes | Smart Contracts | In Development | Hardware Wallet | In Development | Mobile Wallet | In Development | Decentralised Exchange | In Development | Pruning | In Development | Voting System | In Development | Instant Transactions | In Development | Automated Transactions | In Development | Mesh Networking | In Development | Account Control | In Developmentt | Marketplace | In Development | Brain Wallet | In Development | Alias System | In Development | Encrypted Blockchain Messaging | yes | Merchant Tools | In Development | Inflation | 0% |
Regarding TPS: this is still being looked into. We did extensive tests and exceeding 120 trans/block makes the blocks too big for people with poor internet connections to share with their peers easily. We may increase the number of transactions in the future based on the health of the network and usage (e.g., avg size of attached messages, etc).
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Damelon
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January 08, 2015, 01:13:31 AM |
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I tried my best to answer this, though it seems that some of the categories are arbitrary. Maybe someone else can comment if they disagree with me.
Yes, please add things or put question marks where needed Thanks for filling it out!
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makoto1337
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January 08, 2015, 01:17:58 AM |
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yes my mistake already solved on nxtforum deepest apologies to salsacz. purely bad timing following edeaqa's posts. ps. could we remove all the lists except one? :L its guna make the page awfully long This is called "priming." It's interesting that introducing bias can have a large impact on subsequent perception.
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salsacz
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January 08, 2015, 01:19:43 AM |
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thanks, Lon. Missed you in HK conf. Will you be in upcoming Singapore/Shanghai/HK confs?
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rockethead
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January 08, 2015, 02:10:47 AM |
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I tried my best to answer this, though it seems that some of the categories are arbitrary. Maybe someone else can comment if they disagree with me. NEM | Operational | No | Consensus Mechanism | POI | Block Production Time | 60s | Recommended Confirmation Time | 10 blocks | Worst Case for Confirmation Time | 360 blocks | Transaction Load | 2 tps | Anonymous Transactions | Future TBD | Transaction Fee Costs | Progressive | Network Security Costs | Transaction Fees | Share Supply | 8.99 billion | Share Divisibility (precision) | 6 decimal places | Profit Sharing | no | Market Pegged Assets | In Development | User Issued Assets | In Development | Order Matching | In Development | User Registered Accounts | In Development | Messaging | yes | Cross-Chain Trading Support | In Development | Multisignature | Yes | Smart Contracts | In Development | Hardware Wallet | In Development | Mobile Wallet | In Development | Decentralised Exchange | In Development | Pruning | In Development | Voting System | In Development | Instant Transactions | In Development | Automated Transactions | In Development | Mesh Networking | In Development | Account Control | In Developmentt | Marketplace | In Development | Brain Wallet | In Development | Alias System | In Development | Encrypted Blockchain Messaging | yes | Merchant Tools | In Development | Inflation | 0% |
Regarding TPS: this is still being looked into. We did extensive tests and exceeding 120 trans/block makes the blocks too big for people with poor internet connections to share with their peers easily. We may increase the number of transactions in the future based on the health of the network and usage (e.g., avg size of attached messages, etc). I believe ours is a mesh network. If it is multi-node to multi-node communication, it is a mesh, which is our case.
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Eadeqa
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January 08, 2015, 03:09:01 AM |
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elliptic curve: "Switched elliptic curve from secp256k1 to ed25519: Ed25519 is a state of the art elliptic curve. Verification of signatures is about 6 times faster for ed25519. This will speed up the synchronization process."
Last time I looked it up, there were no good (reviewed) / fast implementations of Ed25519 in Java. What library are using for Ed25519 ?
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