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August 07, 2014, 03:09:12 AM |
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Thursday, August 07, 2014 Location Time 8 Processed at HONG KONG - HONG KONG HONG KONG - HONG KONG 01:31 7 Clearance processing complete at HONG KONG - HONG KONG HONG KONG - HONG KONG 01:31 6 Arrived at Sort Facility HONG KONG - HONG KONG HONG KONG - HONG KONG 00:37 Wednesday, August 06, 2014 Location Time 5 Customs status updated HONG KONG - HONG KONG 23:29 4 Departed Facility in SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC 22:31 3 Processed at SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC 22:09 2 Arrived at Sort Facility SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC 21:50 1 Shipment picked up SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC 19:04
Is this package moving along normal or is this a not so good delay in Hong Kong?
looks good so far.... see if it updates by dinner with a delivery estimate for tomorrow.. Will do, hopefully it leaves Hong Kong sooner than later ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I've read too many horror stories in the thread
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August 07, 2014, 03:51:57 AM Last edit: August 07, 2014, 04:07:57 AM by Billbags |
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So..my five S3s have been up just short of a full day. The variability in hash rate is significantly larger than the S1s. On the left of the graph below are seven S1s (note the tight range in which they hashed)...on the right are five S3s...big difference in hash rate variability...anyone have a theory as to why this is so? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2Fr9hhrn.jpg&t=665&c=IUV0-y4gAuq06A) These new chips out these days are not that great. Not just Bitmain but other companies also. I have several new miners and they are all like that. The BE200 chips are doing the same thing. Also it doesn't appear like chips are getting graded like they used to and the miners are semi overclocked from the factory, so they are already being pushed so the manufactures could use less chips and make bigger profits. These new chips do not tolerate heat like some of the A-grade older generations could. Also, we are still using older mining software with these new chips, they have polished it up a little now, but it's still the same cgminer/Bfgminer on top of a stratum proxy running underneath the web interface. Hopefully as time goes on newer firmware with help.
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August 07, 2014, 04:17:23 AM Last edit: November 27, 2020, 11:29:17 PM by suchmoon |
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So..my five S3s have been up just short of a full day. The variability in hash rate is significantly larger than the S1s. On the left of the graph below are seven S1s (note the tight range in which they hashed)...on the right are five S3s...big difference in hash rate variability...anyone have a theory as to why this is so?
You're looking at poolside charts so most likely it's just pool difficulty that's causing some variance. Try setting it lower if you can or just forget it and watch the long term averages and miner's UI. Edit: here is my chart for 2 S3s, red dotted line is 860 MH/s and it's averaging 882.50 for the last 24h. Very nice and steady as far as I'm concerned. Edited 2020-11-27 to fix a broken image
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August 07, 2014, 04:35:07 AM |
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So! All units are hashing over 440gh (Two over 490), but only when using a cronjob to restart the cgminer service every 1/2 hour - 1hr depending on the miner. Regardless of how long I leave any of these guys up to "stabilize", they always fall to 390-398 after 48 hours.
There's only one thing. I am noticing a rather high number of duplicate shares poolside since starting this restart routine. (surprise) Is there a cgminer flag among the bitmain options to clear the asic of all work upon a cgminer restart? I know the A1 miners have a similar command with '--hwreset'
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August 07, 2014, 05:13:41 AM |
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Thursday, August 07, 2014 Location Time 8 Processed at HONG KONG - HONG KONG HONG KONG - HONG KONG 01:31 7 Clearance processing complete at HONG KONG - HONG KONG HONG KONG - HONG KONG 01:31 6 Arrived at Sort Facility HONG KONG - HONG KONG HONG KONG - HONG KONG 00:37 Wednesday, August 06, 2014 Location Time 5 Customs status updated HONG KONG - HONG KONG 23:29 4 Departed Facility in SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC 22:31 3 Processed at SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC 22:09 2 Arrived at Sort Facility SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC 21:50 1 Shipment picked up SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC 19:04
Is this package moving along normal or is this a not so good delay in Hong Kong?
looks good so far.... see if it updates by dinner with a delivery estimate for tomorrow.. 9 Processed at HONG KONG - HONG KONG HONG KONG - HONG KONG 13:00 8 Processed at HONG KONG - HONG KONG HONG KONG - HONG KONG 01:31 7 Clearance processing complete at HONG KONG - HONG KONG HONG KONG - HONG KONG 01:31 6 Arrived at Sort Facility HONG KONG - HONG KONG HONG KONG - HONG KONG 00:37 Processed again? Does this mean it may be in another facility in Hong Kong? I'll have to search the thread again, I really don't want to be a victim of those packages that keep getting stuck in a location
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August 07, 2014, 05:16:17 AM |
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Hey all, What the chart below graphs is 12 S3's (upper band) and 12 S1's (lower band) and indicates that the S3's have a lot more "jitter" or volatility in hashing rate than S1's. I think when tweaking them, taking a longer term running average is more indicative of any improvements/degradations. My opinion is that changes should be evaluated over days versus hours. And as we all know: "Opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one and they all stink." And yes we hash at the pool that shall not be named. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FDAb5wD9.jpg&t=665&c=DNOEX9WM0A4c8w)
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August 07, 2014, 05:26:48 AM |
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Hello im new in mining what power supplier and how many watts is required for s3? Im planning to get 20 miners anybody here knows how to setup a plan like this? Please share thank you
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August 07, 2014, 05:35:24 AM |
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Hello im new in mining what power supplier and how many watts is required for s3? Im planning to get 20 miners anybody here knows how to setup a plan like this? Please share thank you
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August 07, 2014, 05:37:52 AM |
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Hey all, What the chart below graphs is 12 S3's (upper band) and 12 S1's (lower band) and indicates that the S3's have a lot more "jitter" or volatility in hashing rate than S1's. I think when tweaking them, taking a longer term running average is more indicative of any improvements/degradations. My opinion is that changes should be evaluated over days versus hours. And as we all know: "Opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one and they all stink." And yes we hash at the pool that shall not be named. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FDAb5wD9.jpg&t=665&c=DNOEX9WM0A4c8w) There's nothing mysterious about the 'increased jitter' you are seeing. Let's say the 'normal' jitter based on your sampling window is 5%. Well, 5% of 200GH is 10GH. 5% of 450GH is 23GH/s. Also, your S3's are likely getting a higher share difficulty set by the pool compared to the S1's; if the share difficulty is 2x higher, the variance (or 'jitter') will be 2x higher as well. So if your S1's are sampling +/-10GH, your S3's might be sampling +/-50GH. This is the phenomenon you are seeing. But you can ignore it; the only thing that matters is the long-term average (as you have already guessed). Short-term jitter like this is a non-issue and is actually expected due to the sampling frequency.
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August 07, 2014, 05:44:38 AM |
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with how they set shipping for buyyer ? im interested but im in europe can cash on delivery ?
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August 07, 2014, 05:54:59 AM |
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with how they set shipping for buyyer ? im interested but im in europe can cash on delivery ?
There is no cash on delivery, you pre-order and pay up front with BTC and you will have an order in queue for shipping.
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August 07, 2014, 05:55:27 AM |
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Hello im new in mining what power supplier and how many watts is required for s3? Im planning to get 20 miners anybody here knows how to setup a plan like this? Please share thank you
Please dont feed the trolls Sir I'm serious, I'm sorry if my bad english make you think Im trolling, I'm from Philippines. Saw the manual and in bitmaintech website but still dont have idea what wattage of psu or avr to use and would i operate 20 units simultaneously.
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August 07, 2014, 05:57:19 AM |
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This is just awesome... this is just the first two S3's. The others will be at my collo guys place Fri, gotta love UPS from china to the US. Nothing will be sitting in a warehouse over the weekend ! This assumes package two clears ok like the first seem below.
Either way, baring any unforseen issues, I should have two of my four S3's up and running in 12 - 16 hrs... 2am here now where I am in the US.
Scheduled Delivery: Thursday, 08/07/2014, By End of Day
Louisville, KY, United States 08/07/2014 1:18 A.M. Arrival Scan 08/06/2014 10:00 P.M. The package is awaiting clearing agency review. / Your package was released by the clearing agency. Anchorage, AK, United States 08/06/2014 3:16 P.M. Departure Scan 08/06/2014 12:54 P.M. Arrival Scan Shenzhen, China 08/06/2014 7:17 P.M. Departure Scan 08/06/2014 4:15 P.M. Export Scan 08/06/2014 12:42 A.M. Arrival Scan 08/06/2014 12:40 A.M. Departure Scan 08/06/2014 12:19 A.M. Origin Scan 08/05/2014 9:55 A.M. The package is awaiting clearing agency review. / The package is at the clearing agency awaiting final release. Shenzhen, China 08/05/2014 7:33 P.M. Pickup Scan China 08/05/2014 7:03 A.M. Order Processed: Ready for UPS
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August 07, 2014, 06:01:50 AM |
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Hey all, What the chart below graphs is 12 S3's (upper band) and 12 S1's (lower band) and indicates that the S3's have a lot more "jitter" or volatility in hashing rate than S1's. I think when tweaking them, taking a longer term running average is more indicative of any improvements/degradations. My opinion is that changes should be evaluated over days versus hours. And as we all know: "Opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one and they all stink." And yes we hash at the pool that shall not be named. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FDAb5wD9.jpg&t=665&c=DNOEX9WM0A4c8w) There's nothing mysterious about the 'increased jitter' you are seeing. Let's say the 'normal' jitter based on your sampling window is 5%. Well, 5% of 200GH is 10GH. 5% of 450GH is 23GH/s. Also, your S3's are likely getting a higher share difficulty set by the pool compared to the S1's; if the share difficulty is 2x higher, the variance (or 'jitter') will be 2x higher as well. So if your S1's are sampling +/-10GH, your S3's might be sampling +/-50GH. This is the phenomenon you are seeing. But you can ignore it; the only thing that matters is the long-term average (as you have already guessed). Short-term jitter like this is a non-issue and is actually expected due to the sampling frequency. What I suspected and expected to hear, thanks for the clarification and sanity check. I have the S1's locked into 128 difficulty and the S3's @ 512. If left in "automatic" the pool places the difficulty at much higher values for both. 128-512 for the S1's and 1024 for the S3's. I got used to the small variances of the S1's when, for instance, adjusting clock rate. When I started tweaking the clocks on the S3's it appeared in the short term to cause the hash rate to become "unstable". But when averaged or a longer period each unit seemed to find a "sweet spot" and be consistent day to day. Was just throwing that out there so as to relieve some anxiety of new S3 owners. Cuz' it drove me a little crazy for a few days.
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August 07, 2014, 06:03:41 AM |
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This is just awesome... this is just the first two S3's. The others will be at my collo guys place Fri, gotta love UPS from china to the US. Nothing will be sitting in a warehouse over the weekend ! This assumes package two clears ok like the first seem below.
Either way, baring any unforseen issues, I should have two of my four S3's up and running in 12 - 16 hrs... 2am here now where I am in the US.
Scheduled Delivery: Thursday, 08/07/2014, By End of Day
Louisville, KY, United States 08/07/2014 1:18 A.M. Arrival Scan 08/06/2014 10:00 P.M. The package is awaiting clearing agency review. / Your package was released by the clearing agency. Anchorage, AK, United States 08/06/2014 3:16 P.M. Departure Scan 08/06/2014 12:54 P.M. Arrival Scan Shenzhen, China 08/06/2014 7:17 P.M. Departure Scan 08/06/2014 4:15 P.M. Export Scan 08/06/2014 12:42 A.M. Arrival Scan 08/06/2014 12:40 A.M. Departure Scan 08/06/2014 12:19 A.M. Origin Scan 08/05/2014 9:55 A.M. The package is awaiting clearing agency review. / The package is at the clearing agency awaiting final release. Shenzhen, China 08/05/2014 7:33 P.M. Pickup Scan China 08/05/2014 7:03 A.M. Order Processed: Ready for UPS
Grats man!! Lucky you ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) mine is stuck in Hong Kong and I'm getting worried after all the horror stories I read on here.
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August 07, 2014, 06:12:40 AM |
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This is just awesome... this is just the first two S3's. The others will be at my collo guys place Fri, gotta love UPS from china to the US. Nothing will be sitting in a warehouse over the weekend ! This assumes package two clears ok like the first seem below.
Either way, baring any unforseen issues, I should have two of my four S3's up and running in 12 - 16 hrs... 2am here now where I am in the US.
Scheduled Delivery: Thursday, 08/07/2014, By End of Day
Louisville, KY, United States 08/07/2014 1:18 A.M. Arrival Scan 08/06/2014 10:00 P.M. The package is awaiting clearing agency review. / Your package was released by the clearing agency. Anchorage, AK, United States 08/06/2014 3:16 P.M. Departure Scan 08/06/2014 12:54 P.M. Arrival Scan Shenzhen, China 08/06/2014 7:17 P.M. Departure Scan 08/06/2014 4:15 P.M. Export Scan 08/06/2014 12:42 A.M. Arrival Scan 08/06/2014 12:40 A.M. Departure Scan 08/06/2014 12:19 A.M. Origin Scan 08/05/2014 9:55 A.M. The package is awaiting clearing agency review. / The package is at the clearing agency awaiting final release. Shenzhen, China 08/05/2014 7:33 P.M. Pickup Scan China 08/05/2014 7:03 A.M. Order Processed: Ready for UPS
Grats man!! Lucky you ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) mine is stuck in Hong Kong and I'm getting worried after all the horror stories I read on here. Thx, what's your location and I just hope mine hash at at least 430 stock so I don't have to fiddle with anything.
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August 07, 2014, 06:20:00 AM |
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I order 2 S3 today .. hope will quick deliver
If you ordered Batch 6, you most likely wont see anything for two weeks unless Bitmain says otherwise.
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August 07, 2014, 06:37:45 AM |
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any body here purchase power supply in here (minersource.net/collections/frontpage/products/delta-dps2000w-with-adapter-board) ? is minersource.net trusted?
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