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Author Topic: ANTMINER S3+ Discussion and Support Thread  (Read 709800 times)
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July 29, 2014, 03:31:05 PM
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Batch 4 - Come to Papa

Scheduled Delivery:
    Thursday, 07/31/2014, By End of Day

Last Location:
    Departed - Shenzhen, China, Tuesday, 07/29/2014

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July 29, 2014, 03:40:45 PM
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Batch 4 - Come to Papa

Scheduled Delivery:
    Thursday, 07/31/2014, By End of Day

Last Location:
    Departed - Shenzhen, China, Tuesday, 07/29/2014

This is exactly what my tracking says currently.


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July 29, 2014, 03:41:44 PM
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does this mean I cleared customs already? I got in early on batch 4....

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 07/29/2014  7:53 P.M.  Origin Scan 
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 07/29/2014  6:07 A.M.  The package is awaiting clearing agency review. / The package is at the clearing agency awaiting final release. 
China  07/29/2014  4:52 A.M.  Order Processed: Ready for UPS 

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July 29, 2014, 03:52:44 PM
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Why is everyone still beating this dead horse.?  It's been pretty well established that "HEAT" is NOT the cause of the S3 problems, it poor design and possible sub-par components.
We've already read that some users have put their S3's in front of A/C units and experienced no improvement.
Now we have pages of people trying to put heatsinks on chips that dont need them.
Lets face it , Bitmains first performance figures were "optimistic" and probably thrown out there in a hurry to get the machine to market, and after further testing they realized that they made a mistake.
That's why they gave us money back, not enough but a good gesture, not many companies these days would do that.
If we are into Batch 4 and possibly batch 5 with no hardware changes then I think you can safely assume that it is what it is and probably cannot be fixed.
If there was a fix to be made, I think Bitmain would have done it .
This is not a problem that firmware up grades will fix either.
JMHO
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 I tend to  agree with you.

 I believe the stock setting should be 212.5 with 430gh and 328 watts on a gold psu.

They now sell them at 218 with 441gh and 340 watts on a gold psu.  >>>>>>>>> I feel this is not stock but a small overclock.



The real mystery is the s-3's that do 480gh or 500gh and freq 237 or freq 250.

It is definitely a mystery. My first two from B1 can stably hash at:

480GH/s at freq 237
510GH/s at freq 250

I'm using EVGA Supernova 750w and Corsair CX600 to power them. They reach to temperatures at around 45C.


Well, with all due respect, compared to the S1 dot dot dot... this is a treat Smiley
First off, I didn't read everything but anything of a first batch is likely to have some problems, just like cars, game consoles, computer games and about anything.
Why freak/spazz out, or even wonder why/how this can even happen, it's facts of life, sit back, relax, twist one up and play some Crysis or something...
You get the honors of trying out a new product, if you're a retailer, you make money with faulty ants as a display (attract buyers)
That's why consumers should buy early in any new batch of anything, it's not as hard for a retailer to pick up the tab of faulty units than for an individual.
Why add a bunch of custom parts for which the main machines that was not designed to adapt or even work with?
Great job on voiding your warranty on Day 1, I guess, to those who tampered with solid parts and those who overclocked lol
There's the #1 reason why you don't want to order a new product too early, too many issues, no reviews...

If you REALLY want to make a difference in cooling those ants, get a stronger fan than stock, it's probably the best way to add cooling power.
You'd do better with Welder type fume-sucking vents than you would adding A/C.
Welding shops are perfect for Bitcoin mining for many purposes, such as lots of power and lots of ventilation.
Don't cool, ventilate and duct adequately.
Mine run steady at 43 Degrees and it's getting kinda warm in my lab (summer); one thing some miners seem to forget...  both heat and cold affect performance.
Next winter, if you live in a cold climate like I do, you may be looking to get additional heat for your ants...
Last year, I complained to Bitmain about my S1 ants hashing being erratic and later found out it was too cold in that particular room.
Which I believe is what helped "wrap up" the entire unit as we see now, like a blanket.
I seriously had to put a blanket around them for a few months.
My machines are still hashing at steady 435 GH/s average and went over 500 a few times W/O OC
It is showing 1.8 to 2.01 TH/s at the pool I am currently mining at, with 5 OC'd S1's, all in the same room.

That's why I only bought 2, I got more of later batches.
Maybe at some point they will stock at over 500 GH/s but the first few batches aren't; at least we got some (otherwise) quality miners at an amazing price.

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July 29, 2014, 04:24:10 PM
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Some things I've noticed on my B3 units over the past 6 days:

1) I never get any 'X's or '-'s regardless of freq.

2) Setting the frequency and rebooting from SSH seems to be a BAD idea. CGminer stores the elapsed time value and the reported hash-rates are incorrect for hours. Instead, set the frequency and 'Apply miner configuration' to reset cgminer. You may have to leave the power unplugged for a minute between frequency changes if you're not seeing any difference.

3) All of my S3 units perform wildly different upon each restart/reboot/power cycle. This seems to just be reality with the S3s.

I have no idea what any of this means, but It's worth noting.
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July 29, 2014, 04:31:05 PM
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Some things I've noticed on my B3 units over the past 6 days:
2) Setting the frequency and rebooting from SSH seems to be a BAD idea. CGminer stores the elapsed time value and the reported hash-rates are incorrect for hours. Instead, set the frequency and 'Apply miner configuration' to reset cgminer. You may have to leave the power unplugged for a minute between frequency changes if you're not seeing any difference.

3) All of my S3 units perform wildly different upon each restart/reboot/power cycle. This seems to just be reality with the S3s.

I have no idea what any of this means, but It's worth noting.

Yes, I noticed that too
however
if you use
"poweroff -d 3" command in ssh (don't include the quotation marks), then power cycle manually in 20-30 sec, the results of power cycle are more consistent and do not require cgminer reboots.
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July 29, 2014, 04:45:11 PM
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Anyone use UPS My Choice? Do shipments from Bitmain ever show up on My Choice? Need to release signature.


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July 29, 2014, 04:47:15 PM
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anyone used DHL for shipping method ? are they good ?
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July 29, 2014, 04:48:32 PM
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does this mean I cleared customs already? I got in early on batch 4....

Shenzhen, China  07/29/2014  11:13 P.M.  Departure Scan 
 07/29/2014  7:53 P.M.  Origin Scan 
 07/29/2014  6:28 P.M.  Pickup Scan 
 07/29/2014  6:07 A.M.  The package is awaiting clearing agency review. / The package is at the clearing agency awaiting final release. 
China  07/29/2014  4:52 A.M.  Order Processed: Ready for UPS 


No, I don't think so.  On previous orders I normally see an "Export Scan" entry around 24 hours after the initial "Departure Scan."  Give it twenty-four hours and then you'll know for sure :-)
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July 29, 2014, 04:59:50 PM
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Anyone use UPS My Choice? Do shipments from Bitmain ever show up on My Choice? Need to release signature.



I do and they did not on the shipment I just received.
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July 29, 2014, 05:02:03 PM
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Anyone use UPS My Choice? Do shipments from Bitmain ever show up on My Choice? Need to release signature.


Yes, I use it and I like it a lot. You can authorize a release and specify the location you want them to leave it.
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July 29, 2014, 05:03:02 PM
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Anyone use UPS My Choice? Do shipments from Bitmain ever show up on My Choice? Need to release signature.


Yes, I use it and I like it a lot. You can authorize a release and specify the location you want them to leave it.

only if you get my choice premium for $40/year (at least this is what they told me).
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July 29, 2014, 05:13:36 PM
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Thanks for the info on My Choice. I have 6 month premium free (coupon code is out there if you want to try it), but nothing is showing up yet. Maybe it has to get out of China first.

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July 29, 2014, 05:30:35 PM
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Just got my two after a lot of trouble. UPS gave me statuses like "We've missed the scheduled transfer time. This may cause a delay." and "A mechanical failure has delayed delivery. We're adjusting plans to deliver your package as quickly as possible.".

Anyway. This is my 7th and 8th Bitmain miner and the order process is great every time. Shipment, packaging, pricing is good. And now with the S3, the hardware quality is also top notch! Plug, config, mine in a few minutes! Thanks Bitmaintech
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July 29, 2014, 05:59:59 PM
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Is it safe/feasible to inspect and possibly clean the thermal paste on a miner that was working more than a week already?
ASICs will not pop out when I'll dislodge the hardened paste?
I have a couple of miners that I want to do this on and generally wonder if this is even worth trying.
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July 29, 2014, 06:14:29 PM
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I just did this today, no problem, the paste was still not hardened.
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July 29, 2014, 06:18:19 PM
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I just did this today, no problem, the paste was still not hardened.

Though I doubt it, did you see any performance improvements after cleaning and re-applying?
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July 29, 2014, 06:36:41 PM
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No improvement at all.
The paste was applied quite good, i re-did it anyway and no changes.
Unit still is a troublemaker, starts good, creeps down in a few hours, gets errors.
When i reboot it, all Chips are gone. Only hard reboot by pulling the plug a minute gets it back.
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July 29, 2014, 06:47:09 PM
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No improvement at all.
The paste was applied quite good, i re-did it anyway and no changes.
Unit still is a troublemaker, starts good, creeps down in a few hours, gets errors.
When i reboot it, all Chips are gone. Only hard reboot by pulling the plug a minute gets it back.

I'm seeing very similar performance. Though, I will say, ONCE I had both units hashing at 441GH for over 12 hours at 218. But they were in a temporary location and I doubted anyone would appreciate me bowling through the DC with a 4000VA UPS on a crash cart.

Every time, starts out at 470, works its way down below 400. Every miner in my batch order.
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July 29, 2014, 07:03:17 PM
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I received 8x S3's in the first batch.  I have not attempted to under or over-clock any of them.  I did update the firmware to the latest release.  Seven are in a data center and one is in an office.  All are running around 38-40 C.
I did no mods, no paste check, nothing.  Plugged them in, updated the UI and let them run.
Here is the average speed at the pool for the past 24 hours:

443 Gh/s
445
445
446
448
448
450
452

The 446 is the one in the office running slightly hotter. 
They do fluctuate from one minute to the next.  But the 24 hour averages are all within 9 Gh/s or only a 2% variance.
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