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October 10, 2019, 09:54:42 AM
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Cloudbet is taking a really long time to pay .09 bitcoin, anyone got any suggestions
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October 10, 2019, 06:02:52 PM
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Cloudbet is taking a really long time to pay .09 bitcoin, anyone got any suggestions
If you post here or PM me permission to look into your account, I'll contact Cloudbet on your behalf. Please also post or PM some facts to the case.

No need, this is being addressed on our main thread, but thanks for the offer of assistance.
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October 12, 2019, 04:17:19 PM
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Hopefully posters will play there and post their experiences in this thread. I'll play there too to test deposit, withdrawal, as well as communication times. Lines as well as markets available will play a role in their rating. Although casinos are treated as a separate entity, if they have a clean record in the casino, that will help. I'll shoot Stake a PM asking some questions. Other forums will be checked to help obtain information.  It will then take about 3 months after opening the sportsbook before a rating will go up. It can be longer if there are only a few poster experiences here at bitcointalk.
I mean it is stake after all, to me and many people here they literally start with A+ right away but that shouldn't be the case, the difficulty will be to forget the stake casino part and remember that sportsbook part of it will be a brand new thing.

So, it is going to be very tough to ignore the 2+ years with stake and 6+ years with primedice and how awesome they were and just focus on the sportsbook that will be brand new, you can do all you can and get answers for your questions and you can rank them as well as you can imagine but at the end of the day even if they offer worse odds or even if they offer similar odds but anything bad compared to any other sportsbook than you will have to give them not A+ but people would still go there like it is an A+ place just because of their previous success. It is going to be a tough challenge.

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October 16, 2019, 07:07:21 AM
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Hopefully posters will play there and post their experiences in this thread. I'll play there too to test deposit, withdrawal, as well as communication times. Lines as well as markets available will play a role in their rating. Although casinos are treated as a separate entity, if they have a clean record in the casino, that will help. I'll shoot Stake a PM asking some questions. Other forums will be checked to help obtain information.  It will then take about 3 months after opening the sportsbook before a rating will go up. It can be longer if there are only a few poster experiences here at bitcointalk.
I mean it is stake after all, to me and many people here they literally start with A+ right away but that shouldn't be the case, the difficulty will be to forget the stake casino part and remember that sportsbook part of it will be a brand new thing.

So, it is going to be very tough to ignore the 2+ years with stake and 6+ years with primedice and how awesome they were and just focus on the sportsbook that will be brand new, you can do all you can and get answers for your questions and you can rank them as well as you can imagine but at the end of the day even if they offer worse odds or even if they offer similar odds but anything bad compared to any other sportsbook than you will have to give them not A+ but people would still go there like it is an A+ place just because of their previous success. It is going to be a tough challenge.
I agree that it may be difficult. Hopefully the sportsbook will open soon so that an assessment on the book can start for all of us.

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October 16, 2019, 09:32:11 AM
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"A" and "B" books are recommended.


"A" rated books

nitrogensports.eu A+ (2013)  
betcoin.ag A (2013)            

"B"rated books
bitcoinrush.io B (2013)
mBet.io B- (2017) Horse racing.      

"C" rated books
betbtc.co C (2014)
fortunejack.com C (2019) sportsbook, (2014) casino.            
anonibet.com  C- (2011)      
jetwin.ps C- (2013)
playbetr.com C- (2019)

"D" rated books  
bitgame.online D+ (2017)
cloudbet.com D+ (2013)        
coinbet24.com D+ (2015)  
parlayplus.com D+ (2019)    
1xbit.com D (2016)
lunarbets.eu D (2016)        

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October 18, 2019, 11:00:14 PM
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Than you for all information and for updating!

What do yo u think about adding dbet.io to this list?
You can bet with bitcoin directly with no account needed.

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October 19, 2019, 03:25:25 AM
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Than you for all information and for updating!

What do yo u think about adding dbet.io to this list?
You can bet with bitcoin directly with no account needed.
I'll definitely add a rating to dbet soon. Do you have a personal experience that you would like to share with them or any other book?

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October 19, 2019, 08:00:57 PM
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I'll definitely add a rating to dbet soon. Do you have a personal experience that you would like to share with them or any other book?

I have not used it so far,
but some members asked about some bookie that accepts betting directly with Bitcoin,
and I think onehash and dbet are the only ones at the moment.

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November 07, 2019, 12:10:12 AM
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Wondering what BetBTC could do to achieve your B or even A rank  Smiley

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Wondering what BetBTC could do to achieve your B or even A rank  Smiley

Hi BetBTC,

I shot you a PM with some questions concerning BetBTC. Please get back when you have a chance. Thanks

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Dbet.io :

1. Opened: July 2019
2. Minimum bet: .002 BTC
3. Fee: .00003 BTC
4. No account needed although an account may be registered.
5. NO KYC.
6. Email - support@dbet.io
7. No chat or live support.
8. Only requirement when placing a bet is the bitcoin address where winnings are to be sent. Email verification is optional.

Dbet works similar to DirectBet with the only difference being in that DirectBet accepted/rejected bets with 0 bitcoin confirmations while 1 confirmation is needed at Dbet. Dbet states that they are matching players bets at an exchange, although they haven't named the exchange. I was unable to find any verification if they were matching at Betfair, Fairlay or another exchange.

While the owner was nice through PM conversation as well as with his interactions on the forums, I don't think this model is sustainable. The margins are high and the site is generic. Their uniqueness is having no account but that's nullified by having to wait for one confirmation. Dbet accepted my bitcoin and then 10 minutes later the status screen said that my bet was canceled. 30 minutes later, the bitcoin was returned to me.
 
There isn't much user experience posted here at BCT or elsewhere. Because they are so new with such little feedback dbet opens at "D-"





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November 13, 2019, 09:06:36 AM
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"A" and "B" books are recommended.


"A" rated books

nitrogensports.eu A+ (2013)  
betcoin.ag A (2013)            

"B"rated books
bitcoinrush.io B (2013)
mBet.io B- (2017) Horse racing.      

"C" rated books
betbtc.co C (2014)
fortunejack.com C (2019) sportsbook, (2014) casino.            
anonibet.com  C- (2011)      
jetwin.ps C- (2013)
playbetr.com C- (2019)

"D" rated books  
bitgame.online D+ (2017)
cloudbet.com D+ (2013)        
coinbet24.com D+ (2015)  
parlayplus.com D+ (2019)    
1xbit.com D (2016)
lunarbets.eu D (2016)  
dbet.io D- (2019)  

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Please add user experiences with the different sportsbooks as it helps us all.

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November 26, 2019, 10:51:39 AM
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Stake.com has been in business as a casino since 2017 and they opened their sportsbook today. The site looks great with a wide variety of sports offered. One negative is their odds. The margins are too wide to be eligible for a recommended status ("A" or "B).Those odds are unbeatable long term. Of course this can change if the margins tighten.

After a test drive and user feedback, a more in depth review and rating will go up. Please post experiences if you play at Stake.

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December 06, 2019, 06:01:11 AM
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Wow, I never heard about this book Dbet untill I saw this post, that is crazy. How did you find them? And can they be trusted?

meanwhile, I tried stake.com, so far liking this book, very neat and nicely made. Has a responsive support chat, gave me nice bonus, has nice live bets and
has a pretty smooth interface. Hopefully it stays this way, but honestly really enjoying this so far. Very nice thread, You can learn a lot from your posts peepsplace.

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Last edit: December 07, 2019, 01:27:12 PM by SyGambler
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Wow, I never heard about this book Dbet untill I saw this post, that is crazy. How did you find them? And can they be trusted?


here is a link
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5168849.0

basically they are taking the lines from pinnacle and add insane extra margin to the lines , I haven't followed their news since the launch so IDK if they added any value to their bettors with their new telegram group and vip program
overall you will be getting always better odds betting on bitcoinrush , fairlay or betbtc

they say their site is good cause customers won't have to keep funds with them , but if this is the only one good thing about the site then trontopia is much more better since they do offer pinnacle lines with more margin ( but less than dbet )
but TRX is much better for this purpose than bitcoin , your wallet is connected to the dapp directly and it takes few seconds for the transaction to confirm with no fees ( or something like 0.05 TRX if you are out of bandwidth )

so trontopia beats dbet in that , but IMO you should stick to the 3 sites I mentioned in case you want to use pinnacle
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December 07, 2019, 01:04:52 AM
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Thanks for the feedback manbitcoinlover and SyGambler. My feeling is that no book can be trusted without at least one year experience because of the propensity of books that have gone under in the first year. Many "F" books didn't last one year.

"F" rated books
Anybet.eu .
Ball2Win F .
BetCas F .
betking.io sportsbook closed Nov. 2018.
Betlake.com
betmatch.is closed 2018.
BetVIP - closed 6/12/15
Bitbook F closed.
Bitbm F .
Bitcoinsport F closed
Bitcoinlivebets F closed
bitsport.bet closed 4/11/18
Blockbet F closed
BTCBonusBook (2015).
Casinoco (2015).
Coinbet F
Coindrafts F (2014) closed.
DirectBet closed 5/21/17
Ghostbook (TOR)
Gobetgo F (2013)
Powerbet F (2016)
Sportbet.im F closed.
StakeBTC F closed
Webetcoins F (2014) closed.
webet7.com closed

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December 08, 2019, 08:23:55 AM
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I have checked the stake sportsbook for a while now and I feel like I can give an honest feedback.

They have a great multi altcoin selection which was something I have always looked for in a sportsbook, you can gamble with many different coins and that is something valuable, they have great support and amazing reputation which is something they earned way before sportsbook but it does carry over to sportsbook as well, they do have bunch of games and not lacking in selection options which is really nice, their withdrawal timing is quite fast as well, faster than most other sportsbooks too, they also have good promotions going on as well.

Their odds do vary a lot tho, I have seen amazing odds, I have seen horrible odds, it is not really stable yet, they are probably looking to settle that out next and they also have lags, sometimes you do place your bet but it doesn't go and website gets stuck, so you refresh and do the slip all over again, so the lag and freezing is a bit of a problem too.

Considering all pros and cons, I would say they are a C+ at best right now but they have a great potential of A+ considering all the things that make them C+ right now are solvable problems and not problems that are rooted in the system, with time they will get better by fixing the odds and the coding of it.

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