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Author Topic: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000  (Read 2170604 times)
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March 14, 2015, 04:32:27 PM
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I am confused on one thing with HDD mining. What is the disk space being used for? (what service is it providing and to who)?
Only for data generated by you, that is needed to mine burst.

Let me try again. I don't understand. If I mine Burst with my harddrive space, who is using my harddrive?

The whole community I think.

Well, that's my point. I'm trying to figure out who this is providing utility to. (In the example of maidsafe the coin/token allows you to use storage space on the network - which works by HDD mining). I just don't see this type of information anywhere. It say's HDD mining in the OP but it doesn't explain anything. Am I missing something?


The data that is saved onto your hard drive by plotting is only for use with the burstcoin network. The nonces that are saved by plotting are the equivalent of your cpu / gpu hashes as with other crypto coins but instead of been generated fresh everytime, these are saved and only retrieved at specific times.
Burstcoin is not the same as Storj or Maidsafe, in terms of saving useable data or files...At least for the forseable future.

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March 14, 2015, 04:33:51 PM
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I am confused on one thing with HDD mining. What is the disk space being used for? (what service is it providing and to who)?
Only for data generated by you, that is needed to mine burst.

Let me try again. I don't understand. If I mine Burst with my harddrive space, who is using my harddrive?

The whole community I think.

incorrect. "No one" is the right answer.


As of yet, the space dedicated to BURST mining, is solely for mining. it is not "made use of" in any other way.

However, down the line (it's in the roadmap) we will be adding filestorage to the coin. THEN you will be sharing your drive with others. At that point I will be able to explain to you how it works better.

I think the idea is that you will tell your burst system that it can use, say, 1TB on your drive C and 2TB on your drive D (or whatever) and then burst will make a directory on those two drives that is then used by the burst system. Yor harddisk is not shared as such, only the contents inside those two directories is accessed by the burst system. Much the same as today, but instead of plot files, the miners will create files with information in them, some of it hopefully used for an anonymouns distributed file system.

i think the features and capabilities are still out in the open, but as burst already has users with thousands of terabytes of storage dedicated to burst, that userbase can be turned into a giant cloud service pretty easily.

i imagine the following features would be practical :
anonymous decentralized (government intervention) safe file system :
- user cannot deduct which miners hold parts of his files
- miner cannot deduct which users files he holds
- miner cannot deduct what is in the files he holds
- intermediaries between someone requesting a file, and someone storing a part of it, cannot see what file is being transferred or what the contents are

- files are stored in a tree like structure, perhaps with an addition of a tag cloud per file
- files and directories can be password protected with some sort of key (not transferred, but needed to reveal contents)
- files can be stored such that neither tree placement or filename or contents can be known by other than the person storing

- people storing files, and people reading files pay some transaction fee, and people mining collect this fee as payment for the space they rent out

- files are stored in many places in many small blocks, so a lot of nodes have to drop out of the network at once before a file gets lost. The individual seeder himself of course always has his own local copy too.

- the network somehow detects if a block is getting scarce and then creates more copies of it.

Whoever creates this, will have to read up on a lot of research into distributed file systems, read up on how torrents work, read up on basic cryptology, and be a bit smart and creative on top of that.

I think it should be optional if a user wants to offer filesystem resources with his harddrive space or just plain mine for the blockchain.

the filesystem as described above will do to storage what bitcoin did to finance.


Ohhhhh ok. Thanks for straightening this out . It sure seemed like there was no mention of providing utility (yet?)  Cheesy Anyway, I was daydreaming about this in class the other day as we we're learning about different storage protocols and HDD arrangements (various RAID configurations) and realized that you could create a distributed file storage systems where people's hosted information is striped across all disks/hosts within a particular RAID set. With enough redundant parity bits, any file could be reconstructed with a bit of computation whenever the file is needed. Of coarse you would use some sort of cryptographic privkey to gain access to the location of each bit you need when you ask the network to access your file. In this way, nobody can reconstruct anyone else's data because each host doesn't have a single file in its entirely. I think what I just described is maidsafe  Tongue

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March 14, 2015, 05:13:04 PM
Last edit: March 14, 2015, 05:36:33 PM by LuisPT
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[miner]

new version Burst-miner v1.150314
https://www.dropbox.com/s/luq6te1j8dn61p2/miner-burst-1.150314.zip?dl=0

* Tiny changes in algo for faster interrupt the threads (tnx haitch)
* MaxThreads (Paths) increased to 48

+ Added an option to disable the memory cleaning.
   "UseCleanMem" : false,
   (by default - true)

+ Added an option to disable "Winner info"
  "ShowWinner" : false
   (by default - true)

+ Added options to set the address of the server from which to obtain information about the winner
   "InfoAddr" : "burst.ninja"
    (by default - InfoAddr = UpdaterAddr)

   "InfoPort": 8125
    (by default - InfoPort = UpdaterPort)


also, sometimes may have the crashes  Smiley
PM to me screnshots

https://i.imgur.com/L24weVC.jpg

Hi,
Nice update.

I use V2 Pool.
I'm testing with this new version.
I am using:

"InfoAddr", "178.62.39.204"
"Infoport": 8121,

"UseLog" : true,
"UseCleanMem" : true,
"ShowWinner" : true,
"SkipBadPlots" : true

https://i.imgur.com/uwwl8NX.jpg?1

It's okay, but does not appear the winner information.

Is the pool that does not have this function, or "InfoAddr" and "Infoport" are different ?

Thanks.
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March 14, 2015, 05:20:42 PM
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[miner]


also, sometimes may have the crashes  Smiley
PM to me screnshots


"Insufficient privileges to execute the memory list command"

Why the frell so many retards spell "ect" as an abbreviation of "Et Cetera"? "ETC", DAMMIT! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Et_cetera

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March 14, 2015, 05:30:00 PM
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Hi Blago,

Nice update. When will the latest code be available on GIT?

Thanks!
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March 14, 2015, 06:13:35 PM
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Hi,
Nice update.

I use V2 Pool.
I'm testing with this new version.
I am using:

"InfoAddr", "178.62.39.204"
"Infoport": 8121,

"UseLog" : true,
"UseCleanMem" : true,
"ShowWinner" : true,
"SkipBadPlots" : true
...
It's okay, but does not appear the winner information.

Is the pool that does not have this function, or "InfoAddr" and "Infoport" are different ?

Thanks.
i can't check 178.62.39.204 - don't pinging.
You can use your wallet
"InfoAddr", "localhost",
"Infoport": 8125,
or any public wallet API

Relax, I’m russian!...
BURST-B2LU-SGCZ-NYVS-HZEPK
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March 14, 2015, 06:14:57 PM
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"Insufficient privileges to execute the memory list command"
Run as Administrator

Relax, I’m russian!...
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March 14, 2015, 06:26:43 PM
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hello everyboby

I just put online french version of burstcoin site

www.burstcoin.fr

I will translate more stuff in the next days.

my api can be used from www.burstcoin.fr/api (visit to see usage)
but, for now I didn't have time to do big things.

Your market cap is not working Sad

You can use
Code:
<?php $burstData json_decode(file_get_contents("https://block.burstcoin.info/api/?request=price&c=usd")); echo $burstData->c->market_cap?>

and your price seems fine Cheesy but for simplicity you can use
Code:
<?php echo $burstData->price?>

I think i'll make a bit of an api upgrade tomorrow....make a nice page to document it all

Whatever I do I get some error like
Code:
Curl error: error:14077410:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:sslv3 alert handshake failure
I tried almost every version of ssl I could test but still no luck.
Also tried fopen and file_get_contents without result.
But I fixed that with a temporary solution : call my own API on my own test server, which call yours.
As I'm not in a dedicated, I can't upgrade openSSL nor php version of burstcoin.fr.

There, you can now get it via plain http:
http://block.burstcoin.info/api/?request=price&c=usd
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March 14, 2015, 06:47:57 PM
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BURST-KQ2P-FWCW-AAYU-D9G24    /bin/laden

490 blocks / 25 days   ~20 blocks/day !!!   ~700 Tb ?

http://burstcoin.eu/address/chart/forged-blocks/12754694899610736661
(NetDiff = 12.572 Pb / last day)

i'm wrong?

Relax, I’m russian!...
BURST-B2LU-SGCZ-NYVS-HZEPK
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March 14, 2015, 06:53:29 PM
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Thanks to the seventh donor, making the total sum 1,04BTC/$295 Smiley

To use http://bitcoinprbuzz.com/services/, we need $429 so please keep sending to those change BTC we all got laying around and we can be sure to use the industries best press release spreading service!

Thanks!


Come on now! The PR Team needs BTC change, which everyone has. Don't you want the best for BURST...?

There are a huge amount of people here, still we only got six donations and are no where near to be able to use http://bitcoinprbuzz.com/services/ for the next press release.

Please, don't free ride, we are building this coin together: donate some satoshis now. Do simply not care...?



How do a news spread? Well, if you Apple it's easy - you just announce a press conference and 800 reporters show up. For smaller businesses it's much harder, where you basically have to identify the agent whom can spread the news you have and hope for them to pick it up and the customers.

For the first press releases, Burst chose the latter with quite good results. However, doing it manually is terribly time-consuming and wont cover the whole relevant area.


There is a third alternative:

Companies specializing in distributing and getting PR published. We have used one such service with amazing results. We're featured at both Yahoo finance, Bloomberg and a number of key media sites for crypto. They were way better than us.

Of course these companies charge for their services, either in dollars or in established crypto currencies. The price for Bitcoin PR Buzz' service that we used last time is $429, but they also have a premium service for $779.

We could do this as a standard CF case but that would require that we dump the Bursts for BTC. So another way to do this is do it as a standard BTC donation case; we provide a BTC address to collect the money from the.

Here is the site: http://bitcoinprbuzz.com/services/

I promise to provide $50/0.2 in BTC to get things started. If you want an escrow or someone else in charge of the fund, we'll be happy to go with that.

For now the address is: 1AxtsE2ciNmY8Y9Rt9UBude6i1iW176oQB


What do you think? Can we count for you support...? If we could do this in a week or so it would be great, as we then would have the means to act when dev news hit us. If you donate, PM me the tx, nick and sum (we are planning a Hall of Contributers/Fame for community members supporting development!)


***EDIT: 0,227BTC ($65) donated by mmmaybe. https://blockchain.info/sv/tx/fa9f80a46e328e20e8653d7f21da83cadc0e29bf6c331dbb6a6b2706cbf0b074

https://blockchain.info/sv/address/1AxtsE2ciNmY8Y9Rt9UBude6i1iW176oQB

Just sent you 0.198 BTC for PR https://blockchain.info/tx/6882b7b20ac4896c01e53796d32ca0c9c218f95de020cd2c4ce34eb8017a7cee

I´m very exited about the upcomming update for burst and the new features....


Thank you, boba! I confirm your btc has arrived. Cheesy

Who is the third contributer besides me and boba...? Total amount is now 0,679 BTC/$200 with the anonymous donor, about half of what we need.


Should we interpret this as several thousand holders do not think spreading a press release is important...?



Please, everyone have btc change - donate them Wink They WILL make a difference!

Just PM me the tx, sum and nick. 0.02 is perfectly fine if 30 ppl does it, it's just important that you show that you support BURST and Team can spend our money on other BURST related thing Smiley

Address:
1AxtsE2ciNmY8Y9Rt9UBude6i1iW176oQB

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March 14, 2015, 07:01:24 PM
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BURST-KQ2P-FWCW-AAYU-D9G24    /bin/laden

490 blocks / 25 days   ~20 blocks/day !!!   ~700 Tb ?

http://burstcoin.eu/address/chart/forged-blocks/12754694899610736661
(NetDiff = 12.572 Pb / last day)

i'm wrong?

Yes that is correct. Got 120tb and about 4 blocks per day
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March 14, 2015, 07:07:42 PM
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Efficiency always bring success so everyone should get it.  Smiley
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March 14, 2015, 07:09:03 PM
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"Insufficient privileges to execute the memory list command"
Run as Administrator

Running as administrator, network mounts all show as "0b". No idea why.
Edit: because the mounts were made by the user. If I want the miner running as administrator to access the mounts, the administrator has to mount them.

My user has system-wide Administrator privileges. It should be enough.
Starting to run binaries on a Windows system and doing many actions and mounts as Administrator "just because" is a really bad security model.

Why the frell so many retards spell "ect" as an abbreviation of "Et Cetera"? "ETC", DAMMIT! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Et_cetera

Host:/# rm -rf /var/forum/trolls
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March 14, 2015, 07:11:05 PM
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hello everyboby

I just put online french version of burstcoin site

www.burstcoin.fr

I will translate more stuff in the next days.

my api can be used from www.burstcoin.fr/api (visit to see usage)
but, for now I didn't have time to do big things.

Your market cap is not working Sad

You can use
Code:
<?php $burstData json_decode(file_get_contents("https://block.burstcoin.info/api/?request=price&c=usd")); echo $burstData->c->market_cap?>

and your price seems fine Cheesy but for simplicity you can use
Code:
<?php echo $burstData->price?>

I think i'll make a bit of an api upgrade tomorrow....make a nice page to document it all

Whatever I do I get some error like
Code:
Curl error: error:14077410:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:sslv3 alert handshake failure
I tried almost every version of ssl I could test but still no luck.
Also tried fopen and file_get_contents without result.
But I fixed that with a temporary solution : call my own API on my own test server, which call yours.
As I'm not in a dedicated, I can't upgrade openSSL nor php version of burstcoin.fr.

There, you can now get it via plain http:
http://block.burstcoin.info/api/?request=price&c=usd

thanks, I just tested and it works, much, much faster:)
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March 14, 2015, 07:15:54 PM
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[miner]

new version Burst-miner v1.150314
https://www.dropbox.com/s/luq6te1j8dn61p2/miner-burst-1.150314.zip?dl=0

* Tiny changes in algo for faster interrupt the threads (tnx haitch)
* MaxThreads (Paths) increased to 48


Tiny change, massive impact - at least for me!

Thanks Blago.

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March 14, 2015, 08:39:14 PM
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"Insufficient privileges to execute the memory list command"
Run as Administrator

Running as administrator, network mounts all show as "0b". No idea why.
Edit: because the mounts were made by the user. If I want the miner running as administrator to access the mounts, the administrator has to mount them.

My user has system-wide Administrator privileges. It should be enough.
Starting to run binaries on a Windows system and doing many actions and mounts as Administrator "just because" is a really bad security model.

You need to be administrator to clear the memory. If you don't want to clear memory, get the latest version of the miner https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg10770853#msg10770853 and add ""UseCleanMem" : false, "

If you create a batch file to mount your shares and run the miner, then run that batch file as administrator, only the miner binary has administrator access.

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March 14, 2015, 09:20:52 PM
Last edit: March 15, 2015, 12:53:35 AM by mmmaybe
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Thanks to a the very generous and anonymous donation of 0.44BTC by our 8th donor, haitch, we are now very close to our goal of $429 Smiley To be on the safe side, it would be nice with a few 0.01-0.03 donations though.

Thanks!


Thanks to the seventh donor, making the total sum 1,04BTC/$295 Smiley

To use http://bitcoinprbuzz.com/services/, we need $429 so please keep sending to those change BTC we all got laying around and we can be sure to use the industries best press release spreading service!

Thanks!


Come on now! The PR Team needs BTC change, which everyone has. Don't you want the best for BURST...?

There are a huge amount of people here, still we only got six donations and are no where near to be able to use http://bitcoinprbuzz.com/services/ for the next press release.

Please, don't free ride, we are building this coin together: donate some satoshis now. Do simply not care...?



How do a news spread? Well, if you Apple it's easy - you just announce a press conference and 800 reporters show up. For smaller businesses it's much harder, where you basically have to identify the agent whom can spread the news you have and hope for them to pick it up and the customers.

For the first press releases, Burst chose the latter with quite good results. However, doing it manually is terribly time-consuming and wont cover the whole relevant area.


There is a third alternative:

Companies specializing in distributing and getting PR published. We have used one such service with amazing results. We're featured at both Yahoo finance, Bloomberg and a number of key media sites for crypto. They were way better than us.

Of course these companies charge for their services, either in dollars or in established crypto currencies. The price for Bitcoin PR Buzz' service that we used last time is $429, but they also have a premium service for $779.

We could do this as a standard CF case but that would require that we dump the Bursts for BTC. So another way to do this is do it as a standard BTC donation case; we provide a BTC address to collect the money from the.

Here is the site: http://bitcoinprbuzz.com/services/

I promise to provide $50/0.2 in BTC to get things started. If you want an escrow or someone else in charge of the fund, we'll be happy to go with that.

For now the address is: 1AxtsE2ciNmY8Y9Rt9UBude6i1iW176oQB


What do you think? Can we count for you support...? If we could do this in a week or so it would be great, as we then would have the means to act when dev news hit us. If you donate, PM me the tx, nick and sum (we are planning a Hall of Contributers/Fame for community members supporting development!)


***EDIT: 0,227BTC ($65) donated by mmmaybe. https://blockchain.info/sv/tx/fa9f80a46e328e20e8653d7f21da83cadc0e29bf6c331dbb6a6b2706cbf0b074

https://blockchain.info/sv/address/1AxtsE2ciNmY8Y9Rt9UBude6i1iW176oQB

Just sent you 0.198 BTC for PR https://blockchain.info/tx/6882b7b20ac4896c01e53796d32ca0c9c218f95de020cd2c4ce34eb8017a7cee

I´m very exited about the upcomming update for burst and the new features....


Thank you, boba! I confirm your btc has arrived. Cheesy

Who is the third contributer besides me and boba...? Total amount is now 0,679 BTC/$200 with the anonymous donor, about half of what we need.


Should we interpret this as several thousand holders do not think spreading a press release is important...?



Please, everyone have btc change - donate them Wink They WILL make a difference!

Just PM me the tx, sum and nick. 0.02 is perfectly fine if 30 ppl does it, it's just important that you show that you support BURST and Team can spend our money on other BURST related thing Smiley

Address:
1AxtsE2ciNmY8Y9Rt9UBude6i1iW176oQB

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March 14, 2015, 09:46:35 PM
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new monitor tool accepting Burstcoin mining however need pools with API who going to be first.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=569924.msg10774179#msg10774179

 [ v2.0.2.753-nightly ]

    FEATURES
    ========
    - Added manual update check in Settings page

    ALGORITHMS
    ==========
    - [+Algorithm] Blake-256
    - [+Algorithm] Groestl
    - [+Algorithm] Jackpot
    - [+Algorithm] Lyra2RE
    - [+Algorithm] Neos-Blake
    - [+Algorithm] NeoScrypt
    - [+Algorithm] WHIRL
    - [+Algorithm] X17

    COINS
    =====
    - [+COIN] Burstcoin

    HOTFIXES
    ========
    - Fixed issue with pools not loading
    - Added round duration to CKPool
    - Fixed incorrect BTC Guild pool hashrate
    - Fixed incorrect BTC Guild worker count
    - Fixed issue with Bitcoin Affiliate Network saving an empty name/label

    KNOWN ISSUES
    ========
    - Miner Failover may report incorrect active pool
    - Wallets can take a long time to load
    - Sometimes Update does not work

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BURST got Smart Contracts (AT)


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March 14, 2015, 10:48:52 PM
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There are unlimited passwords leading to same Burst address.
Once you make a outgoing transaction, the current used password will be bound to address.
After that, no other password will work for that Burst address.
You will get a message like: 'Address already choosen.'

Thanks, that makes sense!

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BURST got Smart Contracts (AT)


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March 14, 2015, 10:54:22 PM
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I read that we plot a large file and only read 1/4096 of it for mining.
Will the 4095/4096 part never read again, or only occasional?
Wouldn't it make sense to copy this 1/4096 to a fast SSD hard disk for mining and continue/replot the real hard disk?

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