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March 03, 2015, 11:26:50 PM
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its about time some1 in the know went and updated the OP...
(for the benefit of newcomers)
(howto could be updated too, but i know time is constrained!)

the introduction spiel is abruptly cut short,
theres a few outdated links there and it seems a few things have changed in the past month, with pools and software

past couple of days i havent had much paid out from Mininghere pool, so ive decided to have a go at some of the other pools

the information about which pool to join, based on the what the calculator says and the average payout of the pools miners,
is hardly telling me anything, if anything just confusing me more :/

im trying the Devs V2 pool atm, but keep getting "no valid shares to submit to pool" at each block
(oh now i see one of the instances has found a share, wow - so it appears to be working, and another instance found 2 shares from same block, so dont be put off when you see 'No valid shares to submit to pool' for a while!)

all i did was move my generated plots on each drive into the pocminer_pools\plots folder on each drive,
as you need 1 instance of pocminer_pool miner for each plots folder you have..
(^ for those not so PC savvy)


Agreed. I'll have the changes made.



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March 03, 2015, 11:55:22 PM
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its about time some1 in the know went and updated the OP...

past couple of days i havent had much paid out from Mininghere pool, so ive decided to have a go at some of the other pools

the information about which pool to join, based on the what the calculator says and the average payout of the pools miners,
is hardly telling me anything, if anything just confusing me more :/

im trying the Devs V2 pool atm, but keep getting "no valid shares to submit to pool" at each block
(oh now i see one of the instances has found a share, wow - so it appears to be working, and another instance found 2 shares from same block, so dont be put off when you see 'No valid shares to submit to pool' for a while!)

all i did was move my generated plots on each drive into the pocminer_pools\plots folder on each drive,
as you need 1 instance of pocminer_pool miner for each plots folder you have..
(^ for those not so PC savvy)


Luck is still a big factor! Usually that smooths out over the days to reach the mathematical average.
E.g., if one day is found nothing, then maybe next days there are found 6, so the average of these two days is (0+6)/2 = 3

The average payout is even more tricky:
E.g., if miner A has a lots of hard disk space, and miner B has very little, then it is likely that A will find (more) blocks than B. However, LUCK is even there and the smaller miner might find the next block with little space while the miner A with big space found nothing.

In my opinion you can hardly influence that with "payout" formulas.

Pool jumping das not change the luck, but can influence if you see every hour a few BURSTs or every second day some 1000s of BURSts.
I would only change a pool if they are down. Dev pool I have not seen down, so stay with them as long as you can.
 

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March 04, 2015, 12:03:35 AM
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all i did was move my generated plots on each drive into the pocminer_pools\plots folder on each drive,
as you need 1 instance of pocminer_pool miner for each plots folder you have..
(^ for those not so PC savvy)


If you use Blago's miner you can run just one instance and have it mine all your drives at once.

H.




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March 04, 2015, 12:10:17 AM
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Interesting comparison. However, in regard to BURST mining there might be a small difference, that could change the statistic ;-)

I assume that the tests of that hard disks were made with "normal" usage, that means a mixture of read and write cycles.

BURST mining plots a file first ("one time" writing) and then it reads a portion during mining for each block, which is about every 4 minutes.

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March 04, 2015, 12:16:01 AM
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please tell me why my mining doesn't work.
1) I use burst-miner.exe and i try MiningHere.com.io:8124 and get K:\burst-miner-r4-win64 - MiningHere.com>burst-miner.exe
Burst cryptoport Miners
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http://github.com/uraymeiviar/burst-miner
author : uray meiviar [ uraymeiviar@gmail.com ]
please donate to support developments :
 [ Burst   ] BURST-8E8K-WQ2F-ZDZ5-FQWHX
 [ Bitcoin ] 1UrayjqRjSJjuouhJnkczy5AuMqJGRK4b

using config file : mining.conf
Plot 1: k:\plots\7584851980613302006_0_7323648_8192
Submission Max Delay : 30
Submission Max Retry : 3
Buffer Size : 64MB
Pool Host : MiningHere.com.io port 8124
resolving hostname MiningHere.com.io
error while resolving hostname
Mining networking failed
2) or the same for http://127.0.0.1:8125 for V2 Burst Pool

3) and it works for mining.tompool.org:8124. But i get the messages "Passphrase does not match reward recipient"
4) When i use gpu plotter 4.0.3 i can only plot 1 disk. When i try to plot 2 or more disks, via several minutes AMD driver stops for 1 or 2 disks and the undone plots are lost.

How to make it all work?

1) I believed you have type in wrong URL for MiningHere, I think there is no ".io"...
2 & 3) You have to set reward recipient to desired pool before mining. localhost:8125/rewardassignment.html with your wallet run.bat executed
4) Do you mean you plot 2 or more disks simultaneously?
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March 04, 2015, 12:22:22 AM
Last edit: March 04, 2015, 12:41:01 AM by seasonw
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which pools better to use? What are their settings, url etc?

I'm using mining.burstcoin.io (US) and cryptomining.farm. I like fast confirmation of burstcoin.io, it is good particular for short deadlines especially in a few seconds.

Yes, you may try out all the pools at http://burstcoin.eu/pools as suggested and check which suit you most.

P/S: I wish to try burst.ninja, but I have trauma after lost payout of 2 forged blocks at burst.ga... I knew burst.ninja is a new code base, but..... maybe some days in future...
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Last edit: March 04, 2015, 01:27:32 AM by haitch
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which pools better to use? What are their settings, url etc?

P/S: I wish to try burst.ninja, but I have trauma after lost payout of 2 forged blocks at burst.ga... I knew burst.ninja is a new code base, but..... maybe some days in future...


Trust me, lost payouts are not a problem at burst.ninja, they may be a problem for any pools running Uray v1 code.

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March 04, 2015, 01:12:49 AM
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I have been using cryptomining.farm and have no problems with payouts and downtime is so little I hardly noticed it when there was some. I used to be on burst.ga and it was a good pool where the owner rewarded its mining members but the downtime and maintenance was too much for me to leave it on and check on the miners minimally. I am a small time burst miner with about 12-15TB worth of storage.
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March 04, 2015, 03:22:59 AM
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Are the devs aware of the critical security update for jetty?  NXT and other similar coins have updated their version of jetty but the BURST client has not updated yet.  1.2.2 is running one of the affected versions.
http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/jetty-announce/msg00074.html
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March 04, 2015, 03:26:20 AM
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Are the devs aware of the critical security update for jetty?  NXT and other similar coins have updated their version of jetty but the BURST client has not updated yet.  1.2.2 is running one of the affected versions.
http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/jetty-announce/msg00074.html

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The dev. Just one Cheesy

Just one?  Wow, must be a busy person.
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Are the devs aware of the critical security update for jetty?  NXT and other similar coins have updated their version of jetty but the BURST client has not updated yet.  1.2.2 is running one of the affected versions.
http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/jetty-announce/msg00074.html

Well am sure it is in the working for Burst to be updated and then fixed. No doubt it will get fixed when they have time to. Lots of stuff is coming and am sure once got around to it will make the changes to include fixes to bring back up to date and more secure.

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The dev. Just one Cheesy

Just one?  Wow, must be a busy person.

I'd call vbecas a dev too.. in fact we've got lots of devs, only one core dev dedicated to burst.. unless you count the Nxt team, who's updates are often merged in.

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New Feature I added the manual How to install the wallet on a local windows system

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Help me to keep up the page and enhance the information for the german community.

220k to go in the CF. Please do some donations!!!! This is very much work and this will bring us and the price up. So please help to make this a success!

How to donate? look into my sig, open the atcrowdfund.html and pledge for my project.
You can also support me by sending direct to my Burst Account: BURST-AJ63-3W8L-FGBT-2ALZE

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March 04, 2015, 08:34:13 AM
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its about time some1 in the know went and updated the OP...
(for the benefit of newcomers)
(howto could be updated too, but i know time is constrained!)

the introduction spiel is abruptly cut short,
theres a few outdated links there and it seems a few things have changed in the past month, with pools and software

past couple of days i havent had much paid out from Mininghere pool, so ive decided to have a go at some of the other pools

the information about which pool to join, based on the what the calculator says and the average payout of the pools miners,
is hardly telling me anything, if anything just confusing me more :/

im trying the Devs V2 pool atm, but keep getting "no valid shares to submit to pool" at each block
(oh now i see one of the instances has found a share, wow - so it appears to be working, and another instance found 2 shares from same block, so dont be put off when you see 'No valid shares to submit to pool' for a while!)

all i did was move my generated plots on each drive into the pocminer_pools\plots folder on each drive,
as you need 1 instance of pocminer_pool miner for each plots folder you have..
(^ for those not so PC savvy)


In my experience pools pay out about 70% of what the calculator says. It also seems as though solo mining you make about 70% of what the calculator says, sometimes much less (never more then 100% in my experience though).

Best pool I used seemed to be the dev pool with the most consistent and equal payouts. I used a couple other pools before going back to solo.


I'd highly suggest new people carefully look at Burst before diving in. I'm starting to regret it. The only reason the 'value' of the coin is so high is because a lot of people are holding it. If you look at Poloniex you can see what's happening as miners are dumping on it (it's slowly declining) without anyone actually buying it because they want it. If everyone that mined was dumping it then the coin would immediately bottom out. It's artificially high as I pointed out last fall.

There definitely needs to be a feature added on the blockchain so people can see the deadline that won a block for verification purposes. I really don't know why it hasn't been done. Since we're all essentially playing the lottery, what lottery doesn't show you the winning numbers?

I buy private Nvidia miners. Send information and/or inquiries to my PM box.
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March 04, 2015, 08:51:01 AM
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Mining seems stable for weeks already but it seems that I'm having problem with burstcoin.io lately.

I'm only getting --- Balance every each deadline for almost 12hrs now, no payout received as well.

Their chat box seems not working as well.
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March 04, 2015, 10:11:02 AM
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Why do people stay on a pool when it's clear it's not working? All you have to do is change your reward recipient and enter the pool address in the miner...

I buy private Nvidia miners. Send information and/or inquiries to my PM box.
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March 04, 2015, 12:03:15 PM
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Mining seems stable for weeks already but it seems that I'm having problem with burstcoin.io lately.

I'm only getting --- Balance every each deadline for almost 12hrs now, no payout received as well.

Their chat box seems not working as well.

Which pool of burstcoin.io are you in? US, SG, or EU? And how many TB do you have?
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March 04, 2015, 01:37:29 PM
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Mining seems stable for weeks already but it seems that I'm having problem with burstcoin.io lately.

I'm only getting --- Balance every each deadline for almost 12hrs now, no payout received as well.

Their chat box seems not working as well.

Which pool of burstcoin.io are you in? US, SG, or EU? And how many TB do you have?

sg.burstcoin.io
7.2TB actual plot size

Just receive payout just few minutes earlier like 19hrs after my previous.
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March 04, 2015, 02:12:17 PM
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There definitely needs to be a feature added on the blockchain so people can see the deadline that won a block for verification purposes. I really don't know why it hasn't been done. Since we're all essentially playing the lottery, what lottery doesn't show you the winning numbers?
As far as I know, the "generator" of each block, i.e. the account that won the block, is in the block.  The winning deadline is simply the difference in seconds between the timestamp on the block and the timestamp on the previous block. So essentially, you know who won, and with what deadline.
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