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Author Topic: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000  (Read 2171054 times)
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March 11, 2015, 07:52:51 PM
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I was actually more interested in why my machines mined backwards for a block before jumping two forward. The fast oscillations just happen to coincide with it. The oscillations I don't believe have ever been this fast, they usually go up for awhile, then down for awhile, not jump back and forth really fast.

I had kind of equivalent issues while running multiple wallets within my home-network, maybe thats the reason.
Or fast blocks passing while the threads of current block are still running ... the miner may 'skip' these blocks.
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March 11, 2015, 08:01:50 PM
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I was actually more interested in why my machines mined backwards for a block before jumping two forward. The fast oscillations just happen to coincide with it. The oscillations I don't believe have ever been this fast, they usually go up for awhile, then down for awhile, not jump back and forth really fast.

I had kind of equivalent issues while running multiple wallets within my home-network, maybe thats the reason.
Or fast blocks passing while the threads of current block are still running ... the miner may 'skip' these blocks.

Erm... It didn't just skip a block, it went backwards after a block (to a block it already mined), then jumped forwards.

Weird, I just saw block 75887 mine, 75888, 75889, 75888 (fast block), 75890...

It's too bad you guys can't look back on your miners due to it happening quite a few blocks ago. If someone could confirm this happened to them as well it'd make things quite a bit different. Could've also been a fork or micro-fork in the network.

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March 11, 2015, 08:11:09 PM
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I'm trying to find the pool that works best for me with around 16TB on an i5 ubuntu machine with 8gb ram.
I started with cryptomining farm, which seemed to work fine but I'm in southern california, the farm is in asia and occaisionaly I miss out on a few good deadlines by being too slow.  I'm thinking I'll get my nonces delivered more quickly to pool closer to me.  I know there is an east coast pool in the US and a few in Europe, does anyone know of a good pool on the west coast of the US ?

thanx in advance,
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propagation delay is the least of your worries.  optimize your plots instead to speed up read times.

my plots are optimized, thanks for the thought.   I welcome any other suggestions........I'm using Uray's miner.
try blago's so that each drive can be read simultaneously in a multithreaded manner
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play with "CacheSize" : 400000, setting in blago's miner. (increase)
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March 11, 2015, 09:45:22 PM
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I was actually more interested in why my machines mined backwards for a block before jumping two forward. The fast oscillations just happen to coincide with it. The oscillations I don't believe have ever been this fast, they usually go up for awhile, then down for awhile, not jump back and forth really fast.

I had kind of equivalent issues while running multiple wallets within my home-network, maybe thats the reason.
Or fast blocks passing while the threads of current block are still running ... the miner may 'skip' these blocks.

Erm... It didn't just skip a block, it went backwards after a block (to a block it already mined), then jumped forwards.

Weird, I just saw block 75887 mine, 75888, 75889, 75888 (fast block), 75890...

It's too bad you guys can't look back on your miners due to it happening quite a few blocks ago. If someone could confirm this happened to them as well it'd make things quite a bit different. Could've also been a fork or micro-fork in the network.

micro-fork is most likely it.

When 2 people announce a block of the same height at roughly the same time, your client will go with whichever it sees first, since they both have the same cumulative difficulty, so neither takes priority over the other. When someone mines a block on one of those, that chain will then have a higher cumulative difficulty, so if your client is on the other chain it will delete off it's last block, then add on the other one and the new one.

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Last edit: March 12, 2015, 12:26:29 AM by dcct
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If you refresh the burstcoin.info page, it will show the values from the burstcoin.eu page real fast before it switches to the actual ones.

bchain.info was wrong here, fixed it.
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March 12, 2015, 02:43:16 AM
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do not doub! go for burst yes or yes Wink is just a question of time that more ppl notice what you already did, burst is the BEST alt coin ATM.

also did you notice that we will have soon the POC2?  Roll Eyes

Thanks for the clarification! Going BURST all the way it is!
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March 12, 2015, 07:03:38 AM
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PetaByte paid, if your balance was more than 10 Burst.
A text explaining the payment is included in the transaction (example):

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You have earned so far: 32563.23773435
Hereof you got paid before: 2136.16293529

Remains: 30427.07479906

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March 12, 2015, 07:14:30 AM
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How do a news spread? Well, if you Apple it's easy - you just announce a press conference and 800 reporters show up. For smaller businesses it's much harder, where you basically have to identify the agent whom can spread the news you have and hope for them to pick it up and the customers.

For the first press releases, Burst chose the latter with quite good results. However, doing it manually is terribly time-consuming and wont cover the whole relevant area.


There is a third alternative:

Companies specializing in distributing and getting PR published. We have used one such service with amazing results. We're featured at both Yahoo finance, Bloomberg and a number of key media sites for crypto. They were way better than us.

Of course these companies charge for their services, either in dollars or in established crypto currencies. The price for Bitcoin PR Buzz' service that we used last time is $429, but they also have a premium service for $779.

We could do this as a standard CF case but that would require that we dump the Bursts for BTC. So another way to do this is do it as a standard BTC donation case; we provide a BTC address to collect the money from the.

Here is the site: http://bitcoinprbuzz.com/services/

I promise to provide $50/0.2 in BTC to get things started. If you want an escrow or someone else in charge of the fund, we'll be happy to go with that.

For now the address is: 1AxtsE2ciNmY8Y9Rt9UBude6i1iW176oQB


What do you think? Can we count for you support...? If we could do this in a week or so it would be great, as we then would have the means to act when dev news hit us. If you donate, PM me the tx, nick and sum (we are planning a Hall of Contributers/Fame for community members supporting development!)


***EDIT: 0,227BTC ($65) donated by mmmaybe. https://blockchain.info/sv/tx/fa9f80a46e328e20e8653d7f21da83cadc0e29bf6c331dbb6a6b2706cbf0b074

https://blockchain.info/sv/address/1AxtsE2ciNmY8Y9Rt9UBude6i1iW176oQB

Just sent you 0.198 BTC for PR https://blockchain.info/tx/6882b7b20ac4896c01e53796d32ca0c9c218f95de020cd2c4ce34eb8017a7cee

I´m very exited about the upcomming update for burst and the new features....
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March 12, 2015, 08:59:11 AM
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Update and News: www.burstcoin.de

>> New Feature German Plotting Guide was enhanced with gpu plotting (cpu plotting was already described).
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March 12, 2015, 09:05:40 AM
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BURST, the unique POC coin, uses the HD for getting coins but, for sure, if the price raise there will appear ASIC and we sill stock docens of HD that could be used for other things.    

i dont think that asics will come up in the next years. If the come up, your miners could easy be switched to a maidsafe oder a strojx miner.....so no problem at all.

Not so far.....

A i7 can get 20MHash/s and a Antminer S4 gives 2 THash/s. So there is a factor 100,000.

In BURST ploting a i7 calculate 20,000 nonces/minute (about 5 Gb/min), if you apply the same factor, the hipotetical BURST ASIC will calculate 0,5 PB/min, an equivlalent in the 4 minutes block time to a 2Pb (15% of actual size).

The cost of the Antminer S4 is 1500$ and consumes 1500W, the cost of 666 3Tb HD (100$ each) is 66,000$ and consumes (8W each) 5300W (and you would need docens of computers).

So, if the price raise and BURST got popularity, ASIC will come, but don´t worry, Bobafett, for then we will drive our own Ferrari without crowdfund the FerrariSharing.


This is a large part of the reason I'm pushing for POC2.

With POC2 we can shorten block times (probably 30 seconds?), which improves the efficiency of HHD vs ASICs since ASICs have a shorter period of time to do the same amount of work.

Plus keep in mind that you plot once then you just pull numbers off the drive.. point being it isn't the i7 doing the having. And keep in mind that most people will use GPUs to plot their drives.

Also not understanding, how did you get Ant miner =666 *3 TB worth of drives?

I made a very rough calculations getting that a AntminerS4 is 100,000 times faster than a i7, and 2Pb it´s 100,000 times the amount of capacity that can be plotted for a i7 in 4 minutes, that is 666 3Tb drives.

When I calculate the power consumition I make a mistake, I really use the power of the HD during the 4 minutes block and the Hd is used for less than a minute (the time to read it on every block), but if you sum the power consumition of the pc to control the HD, the power is much bigger.


5gb/min is plotting, which is all 4096 scoops. If you are mining with an asic like that, you have to ditch 4095/4096 of those calculations because they aren't valid. You can't only plot 1 scoop at a time, you need all 4096 to sign with ur burst address.Therefore, the asic just became 4096 times less efficient Cheesy

I´m calculating the amount plotted for every machine (i7 or the virtual BUSRT Asic), and, of course, it need to make the all nonce (4096 scoops) to get a unique deadline. An i7 can make 20,000 of this nonces (whit 4096 scoops each) in a minute, so the virtual Asic will make 2,000,000,000 nonces/min (with 4096 scoops each) and if each nonce is 256kb, it´s like a 512,000,000,000,000 bytes/min or 0.5Pb/min

Of course, it will be used only 1/4096 of the total calculated data (as we all do on every block).
 

Anyway, if sometime BURST worth a lot, ppl would find systems to miner it quickly than others, and this would be good for all of us.
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March 12, 2015, 09:20:12 AM
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i see Bitcoin price go high an burst price fall down...
maybe sell pressure to sell burst, to get bitcoin???
or there are other reasons ahead??
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March 12, 2015, 09:28:15 AM
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i my opinion, and what i see is, that there is a big burst miner, that sells his every day profit.
Because of the low volume and the missing buy orders from btc for burst the prices is going down a little day by day.

also what you said is a second factor.

a third factor is, that there are about one month no new updates for the coin.

but dont worry in a few days big news will be anounced and then this coin will make real fun :-)
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March 12, 2015, 10:42:37 AM
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what goes down will come up, it's a cycle.
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March 12, 2015, 12:28:16 PM
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Update and News: www.burstcoin.de

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March 12, 2015, 12:42:05 PM
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what goes down will come up, it's a cycle.

definitely not always the case with altcoins especially
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March 12, 2015, 12:47:54 PM
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what goes down will come up, it's a cycle.

definitely not always the case with altcoins especially

True but you can expect it with this one, as you can with most successful coins. Sooner or later Ryan Pumper or Bob Surplus or another of those pump groups are going to pump this coin. The lower the cap the easier for them to pump. Not much we can do about it other than ride the wave and sell some for good profit and then go back to accumulating after they dump. We can hope that the increased exposure in the market place will bring in more miners and more investors. It helps grow the BURST economy long term. Just do not buy high and you should be good. Smiley

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March 12, 2015, 01:08:22 PM
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could someone create a tool (webpage) perhaps on one of the existing sites that displays the best current deadline of each known pool when the round is ongoing?
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March 12, 2015, 03:39:52 PM
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could someone create a tool (webpage) perhaps on one of the existing sites that displays the best current deadline of each known pool when the round is ongoing?


I agree, in fact this is something we're going to be adding to the stats on burst.ninja as soon as we can. We have a lot we're doing though.



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Thanks Burst for their time Smiley
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ahh finally been waiting for this.

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