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Author Topic: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000  (Read 2170603 times)
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March 15, 2015, 05:55:11 PM
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Also, with Burst, due to the fact that you first have to plot, it is very hard to just bring a load of power online, it'll take you a while to plot it all, with btc, plugin the asic and ur on your way.

Now if you do consider the fact that CPU's are required for mining, then you would have to add a few watts per HDD.....at least you do if you set up a dedicated mining rig...or a farm.....but not if you are merely mining with ur free space. Those who are just mining with their main computer, well, the comp is o anyway, 0 extra power is used. That's really, really decentralized.

Well, I would really like to take everything into account in the calculation and assume that the coin had a worlwide-widespread acceptance with millions (billions) of transactions. Of course you would have to count the energy for plotting an the slightly increased processor usage on millions of machines into account, too. Anyway, I would like it if we would do this dicussion in my aforementioned thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=982957.20 .
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March 15, 2015, 05:57:58 PM
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For information, I just added a new bootstrap (13 march) at http://www.burstcoin.fr in download section.

direct link : https://mega.co.nz/#!2JkGgbqQ!oALg9Zz7ivKCSjbgZbKgm1TLMN_ihsZh7JTXrBQDXMo

The one on burstcoin.info is broken
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March 15, 2015, 05:59:17 PM
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Please post your miner.conf

{
   "Mode" : "poolV2",

   "Server" : "178.62.39.204",
   "Port": 8121,

   "UpdaterAddr" : "178.62.39.204",
   "UpdaterPort": 8121,

   "InfoAddr" : "Dev v2 Pool",
   "InfoPort": 8125,

   "EnableProxy": true,
   "ProxyPort": 8126,

   "Paths":["C:\\ZZZ Burstcoin Mining\\plots\\"],
   "CacheSize" : 200000,

   "ShowMsg" : false,
   "ShowUpdates" : false,

   "UseSorting" : false,
   "Debug": false,

   "SendBestOnly": false,
   "TargetDeadline": 600000,

   "UseFastRcv" : false,
   "SendInterval": 200,
   "UpdateInterval": 2000,

   "UseLog" : true,
   "UseCleanMem" : true,
   "ShowWinner" : true,
   "SkipBadPlots" : true

}

i think info addr should be a ip adress or a dns name?!

also i fixed the plot calc on burstcoin.de ....
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i think info addr should be a ip adress or a dns name?!

Seems to work now, thank you!

also i fixed the plot calc on burstcoin.de ....

I hope I can add some larger files later without having to delete the first one and rebuild?
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March 15, 2015, 06:21:54 PM
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For information, I just added a new bootstrap (13 march) at http://www.burstcoin.fr in download section.

direct link : https://mega.co.nz/#!2JkGgbqQ!oALg9Zz7ivKCSjbgZbKgm1TLMN_ihsZh7JTXrBQDXMo

The one on burstcoin.info is broken

I think u meant blockchain....lol
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March 15, 2015, 06:35:51 PM
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i think info addr should be a ip adress or a dns name?!

Seems to work now, thank you!

Not sure...
http://178.62.39.204:8125/burst?requestType=getBlocks&lastIndex=1
not responding

use "InfoAddr" : "burst.ninja", "InfoPort": 8125,
or "InfoAddr" : "localhost", "InfoPort": 8125,

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i think info addr should be a ip adress or a dns name?!

Seems to work now, thank you!

also i fixed the plot calc on burstcoin.de ....

I hope I can add some larger files later without having to delete the first one and rebuild?

Sure, you can have as much files as you want.
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For information, I just added a new bootstrap (13 march) at http://www.burstcoin.fr in download section.

direct link : https://mega.co.nz/#!2JkGgbqQ!oALg9Zz7ivKCSjbgZbKgm1TLMN_ihsZh7JTXrBQDXMo

The one on burstcoin.info is broken

I think u meant blockchain....lol

I meant the one at http://www.burstcoin.info/download/ is broken
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new version Burst-miner v1.150314
https://www.dropbox.com/s/luq6te1j8dn61p2/miner-burst-1.150314.zip?dl=0

* Tiny changes in algo for faster interrupt the threads (tnx haitch)
* MaxThreads (Paths) increased to 48

Not sure the multithreading is working properly. It does indeed show more threads running, but it does not spread the mine of one drive across multiple processors.

So if I'm mining one hard drive, when a block happens, it'll still just max out one logical processor, even if the drive can read faster.


One thread is created per location you're mining - so if you have one drive - one thread. You can however break the plot up into sub-directories, and then one thread will be used per directory. So in stead of "f:\\", create f:\plot1, f:\plot2 ... and in the miner.conf use "f:\\plot1","f:\\plot2",.....

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That will cause simultaneous disk access if I'm not mistaken, which will grind the disk to a hault. Also I only have one big plot per drive. Sad

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Last edit: March 17, 2015, 03:56:41 AM by mczarnek
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A different question:

Would some of you Burst-people mind to explain in my thread, how energy-saving your technology proof of capacity (POC) mining is? I would like someone to compare it to POS and POW:

"Which is the most environmentally friendly, energy-efficient altcoin?":
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=982957.0

For good estimation, we would need a good calculation, of course, and for proof we would need some measurements and extrapolation...

But maybe we could get an idea.

Thank you.

Proof of Capacity energy usage compared to Proof of Stake

You still need a computer and hard drive running to power Proof of Stake... but let's say that you do add 50 3TB drives to that computer, you could split your plots up across all of these of hard drives, and the only turn on two hard drives at a time per block.  With POC2.. you'll only need to turn on 1 hard drives, one that stores signatures, one that stores the current scoop being read.

Otherwise, it'd consume 50 * 10 Watts per hard drive.  So this equals 500 Watts = 0.5 kW

1 kW*hr costs 12 cents.  Meaning 0.5 kWhr costs 0.5 * $0.12 = $0.06/hr  

$0.06/hr * 24 hr/day * 365 days/yr = $500 of electricity per year

In my mind, eventually a device that starts switching drives off and on in my mind could be POC's version of an ASIC. This could bring the power usage down to about 12W total since you'd still have 1 hard drive running continually, plus the device would use some tiny amount of power.

Point being, there is definitely financial incentive to create such a device, which would definitely sell to POC mining farms, and once this type of device for connecting these hard drives to the network is being made, I suspect it'll pretty widely used for plugging in a variable number of drives.

Back to how much energy POC uses vs POS, and assume an average computer uses 300 Watts, POC uses 500 extra Watts that means that POC uses 800 Watts.

800 W / 300W = approx 2.7 as much energy as POS.  So it's reasonable.

In other words POC2 uses 270% more energy than Proof of Stake.


Proof of Capacity energy usage compared to Proof of Work

Assume you go with the above assumption that you connect 50  hard drives to the computer, and each hard drive costs $100 each.  That means $5000 worth of hard drives which uses 800 W.  Now let's pick a random Bitcoin miner.  The TerraMiner IV which to err on Bitcoin's side, let's say it costs $1,000 USD (I can find it on Amazon for $750 - http://www.amazon.com/CoinTerra-Terraminer-Iv/dp/B00JK64DXA but the original price was $1,200) and uses 2.1kW .

So $5000 worth of bitcoin miners = $5000 / $1,000 = 5 machines.  
5 machines equals 5* 2.1KW worth of energy = 10.5 kW.

So POW uses 10.5 kW of electricity for an equivalent investment POC uses .8 kW of electricity.


10.5/0.8 KW = 13.13 times

Which means that POW uses 13.13 more energy than POC.

The plus sides and reasons why POC beats POS though that POC is more decentralized, ASIC proof meaning even the little guy can mine, and more secure than POS, etc.  And no history key attack potential plus mining is a great way to get new people into crypto currency.  You can mine POC with no money spent buying coins first..  once we're doing 100s or 1000s of transactions, it'll be profitable for every day people to connect their extra hard drive space to the Burst network and join the network.  Once they have free coins, they are more likely to be long term adopters.

And if you need proof regarding the last point that getting miners to join the network will be easier.. go look at Burst's estimated network size:
http://burstcoin.eu/charts/estimated-network-size

It's barely profitable to mine because people are willing to contribute hard drive space toward earning 'free' coins.. meaning this will be a great way to get people interested in Proof of Capacity currencies in the future because they are ASIC proof.

Would like some feedback then I'll go post this over in that thread.

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March 15, 2015, 08:32:59 PM
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new version Burst-miner v1.150314
https://www.dropbox.com/s/luq6te1j8dn61p2/miner-burst-1.150314.zip?dl=0

* Tiny changes in algo for faster interrupt the threads (tnx haitch)
* MaxThreads (Paths) increased to 48

Not sure the multithreading is working properly. It does indeed show more threads running, but it does not spread the mine of one drive across multiple processors.

So if I'm mining one hard drive, when a block happens, it'll still just max out one logical processor, even if the drive can read faster.


One thread is created per location you're mining - so if you have one drive - one thread. You can however break the plot up into sub-directories, and then one thread will be used per directory. So in stead of "f:\\", create f:\plot1, f:\plot2 ... and in the miner.conf use "f:\\plot1","f:\\plot2",.....

H.


That will cause simultaneous disk access if I'm not mistaken, which will grind the disk to a hault. Also I only have one big plot per drive. Sad

One plot per drive - one thread per drive.

Using sub-directories will cause multiple threads to be accessing each disk - it's not something you want to do on your day to day pc - but it's the fastest way I've found to process my plots.

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March 15, 2015, 09:48:52 PM
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new monitor tool accepting Burstcoin mining however need pools with API who going to be first.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=569924.msg10774179#msg10774179

Add pool:

Label: Burst.Ninja
Type: MPOS
Pool URL: http://burst.ninja/webAPI/cryptoGlance
API Key: [your BURST NUMERIC address - see your plot filename(s) for this!]
userID: anything you like as long as it's not blank


You should see your BURST-____-____-____-_____ address in the pool stats if you got it right!
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Thanks bro, especially the winner information.

Also what does usesorting do? I still haven't been able to figure this out.
algorithm:
multiple threads in parallel read files, each of them get best deadline, sends it to the array to send ( "Sender").
"Sender" every 0.01 seconds sorts this list and get the best one deadline, which sends to the server.

https://github.com/Blagodarenko/miner-burst/blob/master/miner.cpp  line #1059


Hey Blago,

I was thinking a "ReadMe.txt" would be helpful to include with your miner.  A simple description of each of the parameters that can be a entered in the miner.conf file.  This would help tons for the bulk of readers, and would probably save you some time in answering questions.  If you'd like to write such a thing, feel free to pm me and I can proof-read and make it easy to understand (though your English is quite good imo).

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Did HardInvest asset payout recently? I cannot find it in my wallet.

According to their announcement (https://burstforum.com/index.php?threads/the-big-announcement.149/) there should be 0.5% of the pool fee send to the Assetholders. Unfortunately I cannot verify that by myself, since they changed several times the pool name, pool fee account, ...

The only clue I can find at http://burstcoin.eu
There you can see the payouts on each day. So I expect of this amount 0.5% to be shared to the asset holders.

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Did HardInvest asset payout recently? I cannot find it in my wallet.

According to their announcement (https://burstforum.com/index.php?threads/the-big-announcement.149/) there should be 0.5% of the pool fee send to the Assetholders.

Wouldn't it be more appropriate to ask over in the thread for the asset rather than the Burst Ann. thread ?

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Did HardInvest asset payout recently? I cannot find it in my wallet.

According to their announcement (https://burstforum.com/index.php?threads/the-big-announcement.149/) there should be 0.5% of the pool fee send to the Assetholders.

Wouldn't it be more appropriate to ask over in the thread for the asset rather than the Burst Ann. thread ?

H.


Which thread you mean?
At the burstforum, where I got the information, they are not responding - worse, they locked me out. So I asked here, where they often mentioned HardInvest if somebody got paid recently.

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competition is good for business and risk diversification is highly recommend

-[ANNOUNCEMENT]- First Burstcoin.de Asset
New Asset with 2% Intrest a Month / 24% a Intrest a Year / Highly Secure


Asset Name – BdeBank
Total number available – 500.000
Price –  50 Burst
Asset Number (ID)– 4053085726300717216
First payout is the first of April!

2% intrest montly! This asset pays out 2% intrest monthly.  One B.deBank  Asset = 50 Burst. 2% of 50 Burst = 1 Burst / month payout.

URL: http://www.burstcoin.de/assets/asset_b.debank.pdf

Guaranteed monthly payout! Every first day of the month i will payout all intrest of the assets. Regardless how long you are owner oft them. Also if you bought the assets one day before the first.

Save Investment! The intrests are covered and backed by my mining system. If all shares are sold, i have to pay 500.000 Burst  intrest a month. My Miners make average 25.000 Burst per day, whats in a month 750.000 Burst. So the payment of intrest is secured forever. Also i am actually bring up more miners, also, look above, this is covert with my burst account with 8.4 Million Burstcoins atm.

Instant Cashout without loss! Also you can cashout anytime. I will buy back the assets from you. Therfore i will place a buy order for every sold asset with a price of 50 Burst. The price what i pay for the payback will decrease 1% every month.  Buywall will be created instantly after the first sales and adapted every first day of the month.

Burstcoin.de is the name oft the german website of burst , with mining guides, best practises, how tos, a manual for beginners, example hardwares from my miners, scripts for tracking the mining tasks, news over burst, etc. and information for the german community is actually daily added.

Bobafett is my username in Bitcointalk.org and burstforum.com.  I´m mining and investing in Burst qfilsince the beginning. I invested over 8500 Euros since now in Burst (bought with btc) and mining hardware. Until now i never sold any of my coins because i really belive this coin has a bright future.

Bobafett is the owner oft the account BURST-AJ63-3W8L-FGBT-2ALZE and now holding over 8.4 Million Burst and is now Top 11 of all Burst holders .

Bobafett is  mining with over 120TB every day and my next miner is acutally plotting. My daily minded income of burst are between 20.000 and 30.000 Burst.


Thank you that so much believe and trust in my asset. Until now, is has beaten all my expectations.

Because i do not want a such fast grow, i will limit the daily offert assets to 2000, whats 100k Burst for the next time.

This should also enable all shareholders to beginn asset trading.....


Can you give us more information about that, please.
What if mining does not bring that amount. Yes, you do have a lots of Bursts. But time is also indefinitely long ;-)  Many more months to come.

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Here was mentioned an Android wallet. I cannot find it at Google Play. Has it been withdrawn?

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For information, I just added a new bootstrap (13 march) at http://www.burstcoin.fr in download section.

direct link : https://mega.co.nz/#!2JkGgbqQ!oALg9Zz7ivKCSjbgZbKgm1TLMN_ihsZh7JTXrBQDXMo

The one on burstcoin.info is broken

Linked your FR site at bustcoin.de  Wink
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For information, I just added a new bootstrap (13 march) at http://www.burstcoin.fr in download section.

direct link : https://mega.co.nz/#!2JkGgbqQ!oALg9Zz7ivKCSjbgZbKgm1TLMN_ihsZh7JTXrBQDXMo

The one on burstcoin.info is broken

Linked your FR site at bustcoin.de  Wink

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