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......The Maker of the universe machine is great enough that He fits our definition of "God Almighty."  All you did is shift the question "from who made the universe?" to "who made your imaginary sky fairy god?" And you cant tell me who/what created your "almighty" god. (well you probably will, but it will be all your typical supernatural godswill mumbo jumbo, complete with silly holy babble quotes) It must be turtles all the way down. <snipped gobbledygook>  Ah!... ok. I see now Bud. Hey quick question....are all these here brilliant gems of logic of yours peer reviewed, or do yo just pull then outta your ass for the entertainment of the bitcointalk community intelligencia? ..... God kinda likes you. I mean, even God enjoys a little bit of entertainment now and again.  He likes me?? Oh hot damn! No wonder he hasn't smited me yet!
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......The Maker of the universe machine is great enough that He fits our definition of "God Almighty."  All you did is shift the question "from who made the universe?" to "who made your imaginary sky fairy god?" And you cant tell me who/what created your "almighty" god. (well you probably will, but it will be all your typical supernatural godswill mumbo jumbo, complete with silly holy babble quotes) It must be turtles all the way down. <snipped gobbledygook>  Ah!... ok. I see now Bud. Hey quick question....are all these here brilliant gems of logic of yours peer reviewed, or do yo just pull then outta your ass for the entertainment of the bitcointalk community intelligencia? ..... God kinda likes you. I mean, even God enjoys a little bit of entertainment now and again.  He likes me?? Oh hot damn! No wonder he hasn't smited me yet! Ahh you never know maybe BADecker got a hold of some good dope and saw something special. I go the route of its all above my pay grade so I figure I will find out later on when I die.
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The non-scientific proof for God might be easier. Everything in nature works like machines and machinery. Machines have makers. The scientific proof for God works like this. Scientifically combine Entropy with Cause and Effect with Complexity, and you will find that there is no conceivable alternative than God for the creation and existence of the universe. Realize, of course, that the word 'God' is not used in this instance as the religions use it. Rather, God is an almighty Master Mind that has unlimited power. The standard dictionary definition of the word 'God' fits this description. Aren't you able to clearly prove that God fits Entropy combined with C&E combined with Complexity? If this is so, you are turning the idea of no-God into a religion for yourself. 
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Surely GOD exists because anything like the mobile need creator then how is it possible that amazing creatures like human has no creator.
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^^^ You certainly are correct. However, that is not scientific or proof. While the things in my previous post are scientific proof for God, there are better. If somebody would put scientific teams together and examine the Bible, the history of the Bible, and the history of Ancient Israel scientifically, they would prove that Moses was real, his strength for miracles was real, and so, God is real because Moses professed and confessed Him, and did the miracles by God-strength. But the Bible proof goes way beyond this. The problem is that scientists want to be able to take the credit for finding out things that are not true, and then making people believe them. Then the 'media', for the same reasons, want to make many copies and pronouncements of the lies. 
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People would be shocked and surprised.
If they knew what was written in the bible.
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August 19, 2023, 05:23:25 PM |
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People would be shocked and surprised.
If they knew what was written in the bible.
And if they understood that it is the truth, they'd feel guiltier than all get out. Then many of them might look to Jesus for salvation. As it is, even the best of Christians mostly don't really know what is written in all the Bible. 
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<snipped gobbledygook> ..... As it is, even the best of Christians mostly don't really know what is written in all the Bible.  I will agree with that Bud. As a matter of fact, I highly doubt you yourself have read the complete Bible. Christians don't know fuck all about what is written in the Bible because they don't read it, they just preach about it. But Atheists do read it... thoroughly, and hence, know it much better. Which is one of the main reasons why they are atheists. Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for Atheism ever created
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while science and religious views are not fundamentally incompatible, science demands strict standards of falsifiability and empirical evidence to constitute proof. As God is a non-natural concept, its existence inherently lies outside the scope of scientific proof either for or against. Thus personal faith and individual experiences remain the key basis influencing views on God's existence.
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December 14, 2023, 05:12:24 PM |
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while science and religious views are not fundamentally incompatible, science demands strict standards of falsifiability and empirical evidence to constitute proof. As God is a non-natural concept, its existence inherently lies outside the scope of scientific proof either for or against. Thus personal faith and individual experiences remain the key basis influencing views on God's existence.
One of the strongest religions is the intentional non-use of science to prove that God exists. Simple scientific proof for God is easy. Here is how: Scientific evidence for simple machines is quite evident by the fact that people use simple machines all over the place. In fact, the machines that people make and use ALL have their base in the machinery of the universe. Because of this, the natural machinery of the universe CAN be called 'machine'. Machines have makers, including the universe machine. Any machine like the universe must have a very intelligent, extremely powerful, Being that made it. The definition of such a being would fit the definition of our word 'God'. 
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Any machine like the universe must have a very intelligent, extremely powerful, Being that made it. The definition of such a being would fit the definition of our word 'God'.
But that extremely powerful Being must have been created (or sustained) in a medium we call the universe, but would more fittingly be called "God".
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Any machine like the universe must have a very intelligent, extremely powerful, Being that made it. The definition of such a being would fit the definition of our word 'God'.
But that extremely powerful Being must have been created (or sustained) in a medium we call the universe, but would more fittingly be called "God". God is inside of the universe and outside of it. He sustains it and Himself, as well. God is an alien, but also human. God is so extremely great, that He probably has many universes. These universes are so extremely different than each other, that the word 'different' is way too weak. If the universes weren't different than each other, they would be part of each other, and not many other universes. I'm amazed that you keep limiting yourself and your understanding. 
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I'm amazed that you keep limiting yourself and your understanding.
I'm sure just as amazed as you are about the sun rising.  Amazement keeps you young.
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Scientific proof that god exists? There is no such thing at all, science is science, it's about physical life, physical world, nature, mathematics, chemistry, it's just about what we see or what we can make a scientific theory about, god is something totally different, god is an idea, god is about spiritual world, it's about faith, it's about consciousness, you can't relate those two things, i think that it is impossible, not impossible it's ridiculous to say that we can prouve that god exists with science.
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which god ? so many religion are sayin we are descendants from one man and one women it does also prove the one and first cell theory The Origin of All Creation
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to prove the existence of god, first needs to describe what is god to then use as a control element that all scientific tests can compare to, to validate the test
so lets start there many people imagine god as some humanoid 'jack and the beanstalk' giant living in the clouds some think his is some ancient alien
what if we go with the hypothesis that our moral compass, the voice inside our head that tells us not to put our hand in a fire or touch the pointy side of a knife is 'god'
so beginning with our subconscious. what is our subconscious. well at basic level its the neurons firing in our brains programmed by nurture and nature.
at a deeper level its electrons firing between conductive fibres at an even deeper level its waves of plasma working at a certain frequency that unite to form all things from gluons, neutron, protons, electrons
so what if god is the ultimate base wave of plasma frequency that then sonic boomed into all frequency waves that then attracted or repelled or coalesced to become all elements of the periodic table and all matter and all life
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The online dictionary at https://www.dictionary.com/browse/God describes "god." god [ god ]
1. one of several deities, especially a male deity, presiding over some portion of worldly affairs.: Compare goddess (def. 1).
2. an image of a deity; an idol.
3. any deified person or object.
4. a nebulous powerful force imagined to be responsible for one's fate: The god of poker dealt me two aces.
5. gods, Theater.
the upper balcony in a theater.
the spectators in this part of the balcony. But this is lower case 'god'. Upper case God is the Almighty, Who created and controls the whole universe. 
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But this is lower case 'god'. Upper case God is the Almighty, Who created and controls the whole universe.
and what created and controls the whole universe.. not some giant in the clouds, but the energy of plasma waves of different frequencies that form to create and power everything ever in existance. energy is immortal
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But this is lower case 'god'. Upper case God is the Almighty, Who created and controls the whole universe.
and what created and controls the whole universe.. not some giant in the clouds, but the energy of plasma waves of different frequencies that form to create and power everything ever in existance. energy is immortal Exactly!... sort of. Nassim Haramein actually explains in some of his videos about the vibrations in the aether. These vibrations are the 'sound waves' from the voice of God. Nassim even explains it that way... sort of. Material is also vibrational frequencies at its base... like light is both particle and wave. The vibrations of the aether that fill all of what we call space - even the space between the subatomic particles of the atoms - is really complex vibrations that order the way the material universe works. In other words, the way the Einstein describes things is only a tiny 'speck' of the gigantically elaborate and complex way that the universe works. The voice of God controls it all. And since God came to Earth in the form of Jesus, the man, God is also a man. Jesus is like a Superman Who controls everything with the Almighty Power of God... to the extent that He is God. Some have said that they have debunked Nassim's science. But all they have done is to neglect looking at or considering the rest of science that exists for anyone to see who is willing to take a look. 
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you still envision god as a humanoid HA you still have much to learn
god is not a sentient single being. "god" is the energy in all matter and living things. hence the words "god is everywhere" "god created all things"
what if i told you everything you have read in your bible are not words of god(single humanoid), but of a bunch of people that learned to write in later years and made up moral stories some based from moral campfire spoken stories told to them by others, which meant to teach people ethics and morals.
what if i told you these writers didnt want to get blamed for being so judgemental so invented a humanoid being to distract the attention away from the writers being blamed for teaching judgemental passages and make it sound like some mystical being that cant be touched said it
much like congress make laws, where congressmen write/pass the laws but then pretend they are not to blame and that its "government" that created the law not the individual congressmen
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