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June 27, 2018, 08:29:41 PM
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Scientifically we all know that a woman without womb is not suppose to put to birth, but I have seen a woman in that category praying to God for an unusual miracle and behold she put to birth quadruplet defy all scientific theories of pregnancy.
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June 28, 2018, 12:00:42 AM
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Very interesting arguments. Lucky enough, am one of those who do not need a 'scientific proof' to believe that God exists. I mean, what do I have to lose if I die &  eventually find out he doesn't exist!? Compared to not believing and after I die, then I find out he exists and it will be too late...Huh It's a personal choice to believe if you ask me!
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June 28, 2018, 03:19:14 AM
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absolutely yes. It is in your heart. He will teach you to be a good man.
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June 29, 2018, 04:46:09 AM
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You can replace Yahweh with god in my argument if you need to. You obviously mean Yahweh when you say god, as far as I know you don't believe in Zeus, you said plenty of times you believe in the god from the bible.

nothing in your argument indicates what caused the universe. Just that it had to be more complex. ''If this isn't enough, throw in the machine nature of the universe, and the fact that machines have makers, and the proof becomes super-solid.'' Redundancy, this would prove that the universe has a maker, I already agreed with that statement, so what? Machines have makers, the universe is a machine? Fine, lets say it is, the universe has makers then, so what, again? How do you know it's only 1 maker and it's a god? How do you know it's not many creators and how do you know they are gods? Your argument does not say they have to be gods, it just says they/it has to be more complex than the universe.

Again, your argument is meaningless.

There you go, again, trying to turn this thread into a religious thread.

If there was not a oneness to GM, the parts of all the cars would never fit properly. So, even if GM is made up of many people, they are all one when it comes to the making of working automobiles.

The universe and laws of physics are way more complex than GM. God is One, even if He is made up of many entities.

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June 29, 2018, 05:36:32 AM
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if you believe in satan, do you believe in god

satan is easier to prove

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June 29, 2018, 05:41:50 AM
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very easy. the proof of the existence of this universe shows that the omnipotent God exists. it is impossible that everything can move without anyone running .

Couldn't the same be said for all of us being in a simulation?
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June 29, 2018, 07:35:46 AM
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You can replace Yahweh with god in my argument if you need to. You obviously mean Yahweh when you say god, as far as I know you don't believe in Zeus, you said plenty of times you believe in the god from the bible.

nothing in your argument indicates what caused the universe. Just that it had to be more complex. ''If this isn't enough, throw in the machine nature of the universe, and the fact that machines have makers, and the proof becomes super-solid.'' Redundancy, this would prove that the universe has a maker, I already agreed with that statement, so what? Machines have makers, the universe is a machine? Fine, lets say it is, the universe has makers then, so what, again? How do you know it's only 1 maker and it's a god? How do you know it's not many creators and how do you know they are gods? Your argument does not say they have to be gods, it just says they/it has to be more complex than the universe.

Again, your argument is meaningless.

There you go, again, trying to turn this thread into a religious thread.

If there was not a oneness to GM, the parts of all the cars would never fit properly. So, even if GM is made up of many people, they are all one when it comes to the making of working automobiles.

The universe and laws of physics are way more complex than GM. God is One, even if He is made up of many entities.

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You keep saying god though, but again, nothing in your argument indicates it's a ''god''. Your argument says machines have makers, plural. The universe could easily have makers too then. ''the parts of all the cars would never fit properly'' Because you say so? Is that how it works? You just make up stuff along the way to fit your argument? ''they are all one when it comes to the making of working automobiles.'' No they aren't. Just like a few people can build a car, they are not one, they are many, someone might be responsible for the engine and someone else for the windows, your argument is garbage. Rip badecker. You will not comeback from this no matter how hard you try lol



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June 29, 2018, 09:36:31 AM
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Any one can proof about love or hate?
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June 29, 2018, 12:42:50 PM
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There isn't any scientific proof that God exists. I believe it's all brainwash by the society to force us to believe in what they think exists.
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June 30, 2018, 01:17:02 AM
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The scientific proof that God exists is all around us. People are brainwashed into thinking that the scientific proof for God doesn't exist.

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June 30, 2018, 01:22:17 AM
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You can replace Yahweh with god in my argument if you need to. You obviously mean Yahweh when you say god, as far as I know you don't believe in Zeus, you said plenty of times you believe in the god from the bible.

nothing in your argument indicates what caused the universe. Just that it had to be more complex. ''If this isn't enough, throw in the machine nature of the universe, and the fact that machines have makers, and the proof becomes super-solid.'' Redundancy, this would prove that the universe has a maker, I already agreed with that statement, so what? Machines have makers, the universe is a machine? Fine, lets say it is, the universe has makers then, so what, again? How do you know it's only 1 maker and it's a god? How do you know it's not many creators and how do you know they are gods? Your argument does not say they have to be gods, it just says they/it has to be more complex than the universe.

Again, your argument is meaningless.

There you go, again, trying to turn this thread into a religious thread.

If there was not a oneness to GM, the parts of all the cars would never fit properly. So, even if GM is made up of many people, they are all one when it comes to the making of working automobiles.

The universe and laws of physics are way more complex than GM. God is One, even if He is made up of many entities.

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You keep saying god though, but again, nothing in your argument indicates it's a ''god''. Your argument says machines have makers, plural. The universe could easily have makers too then. ''the parts of all the cars would never fit properly'' Because you say so? Is that how it works? You just make up stuff along the way to fit your argument? ''they are all one when it comes to the making of working automobiles.'' No they aren't. Just like a few people can build a car, they are not one, they are many, someone might be responsible for the engine and someone else for the windows, your argument is garbage. Rip badecker. You will not comeback from this no matter how hard you try lol

You must have skipped a bunch of grades in school. You are kinda messed up if you think that car builders can all work independently and sort of accidentally come up with parts that fit together in the same car.

The word "God" fits by definition. If there are connotations to that word that you don't like, use some other word(s) that work for you better.

There is nothing other than intelligent design that we have as an example for the kind of complex operation that makes up what the universe is all about.

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June 30, 2018, 01:25:26 AM
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God exist, if you believe in the Holy Scripture the Bible you will know that God exist. If we don't have God? Who created us? Big bang? A stupid theory that invented. Consult Bro. Eli Soriano in Ang Dating Daan.
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June 30, 2018, 01:25:36 AM
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if you believe in satan, do you believe in god

satan is easier to prove

The proof for God already has been shown. The proof for Satan is for another thread, but it relies on the proof for God. How? Satan is the destroyer. But destruction can't destroy something that doesn't exist. God made it. Satan attempted to destroy it, and had some success. But it still stands, so Satan is way weaker.

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June 30, 2018, 01:37:02 AM
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How can Darwin's theory be logical? Because we all see animals that mutates and etc? Okay, let's accept that for the sake of argument. But let me ask, what is the missing link that was to prove that huma beings are from apes? Scientists have proven that the missing link proposed by Charles Darwin was false! He just fused the bones of a human and an ape. This was published as one of the biggest lies of the world.

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June 30, 2018, 08:58:25 AM
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You can replace Yahweh with god in my argument if you need to. You obviously mean Yahweh when you say god, as far as I know you don't believe in Zeus, you said plenty of times you believe in the god from the bible.

nothing in your argument indicates what caused the universe. Just that it had to be more complex. ''If this isn't enough, throw in the machine nature of the universe, and the fact that machines have makers, and the proof becomes super-solid.'' Redundancy, this would prove that the universe has a maker, I already agreed with that statement, so what? Machines have makers, the universe is a machine? Fine, lets say it is, the universe has makers then, so what, again? How do you know it's only 1 maker and it's a god? How do you know it's not many creators and how do you know they are gods? Your argument does not say they have to be gods, it just says they/it has to be more complex than the universe.

Again, your argument is meaningless.

There you go, again, trying to turn this thread into a religious thread.

If there was not a oneness to GM, the parts of all the cars would never fit properly. So, even if GM is made up of many people, they are all one when it comes to the making of working automobiles.

The universe and laws of physics are way more complex than GM. God is One, even if He is made up of many entities.

Cool

You keep saying god though, but again, nothing in your argument indicates it's a ''god''. Your argument says machines have makers, plural. The universe could easily have makers too then. ''the parts of all the cars would never fit properly'' Because you say so? Is that how it works? You just make up stuff along the way to fit your argument? ''they are all one when it comes to the making of working automobiles.'' No they aren't. Just like a few people can build a car, they are not one, they are many, someone might be responsible for the engine and someone else for the windows, your argument is garbage. Rip badecker. You will not comeback from this no matter how hard you try lol

You must have skipped a bunch of grades in school. You are kinda messed up if you think that car builders can all work independently and sort of accidentally come up with parts that fit together in the same car.

The word "God" fits by definition. If there are connotations to that word that you don't like, use some other word(s) that work for you better.

There is nothing other than intelligent design that we have as an example for the kind of complex operation that makes up what the universe is all about.

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''You are kinda messed up if you think that car builders can all work independently and sort of accidentally come up with parts that fit together in the same car.'' Who said accidentally? I said different creators working together. Stop making shit up.

The word ''god'' is a made up word. Many things are defined as ''creator of the universe'' You have a ton of gods that fit that definition. Do you know Zeno from dragon ball? He also fits the definition, he is the creator of all the universes, I guess I could say Zeno did it because it fits the definition right?

Unfortunately even then, it's wrong because what definition does it fit? As previously mentioned nothing in your argument rules out the possibility of different entities creating the universe just like a lot of people work together to build a house or a car and YES they have to work together but they don't have to be one.


''There is nothing other than intelligent design that we have as an example for the kind of complex operation that makes up what the universe is all about. '' Intelligent design =/= a god. It just means it has to be more complex and very intelligent.

Still a garbage argument, as I said, you are not getting out of this one.



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July 01, 2018, 12:02:51 PM
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I'm deist , i don't know.
Is better, i think.
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July 01, 2018, 12:13:18 PM
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.and not 1 shred of evidence.
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July 01, 2018, 12:35:10 PM
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As long as christians continue to gang up as only a masonic brotherhood would feel the need to agains a soul son who just happened to find his god in his way, yes, I will place them in the same box, for this is what they do with anyone, who, like me, not only think outside the box, but live.
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''You are kinda messed up if you think that car builders can all work independently and sort of accidentally come up with parts that fit together in the same car.'' Who said accidentally? I said different creators working together. Stop making shit up. THE COMPLEXITY OF THE UNIVERSE IS TOO GREAT FOR INDIVIDUAL CREATORS TO WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE SOMETHING LIKE OUR UNIVERSE. THEIR TOGETHERNESS WOULD HAVE TO BE SO GREAT THAT THEY WOULD BE WORKING AS ONE.

The word ''god'' is a made up word. Many things are defined as ''creator of the universe'' You have a ton of gods that fit that definition. Do you know Zeno from dragon ball? He also fits the definition, he is the creator of all the universes, I guess I could say Zeno did it because it fits the definition right? THIS TOPIC IS NOT ABOUT THE DETAILED DESCRIPTION OF GOD. IF SOMEBODY HAS A DEFINITION OF GOD THAT FITS THE SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN GOD, MORE POWER TO HIM.

Unfortunately even then, it's wrong because what definition does it fit? THE SCIENTIFIC DEFINITION THAT I HAVE BEEN SHOWING YOU. As previously mentioned nothing in your argument rules out the possibility of different entities creating the universe just like a lot of people work together to build a house or a car and YES they have to work together but they don't have to be one. THE COMPLEXITY OF PROJECT UNIVERSE, WHICH COMPLEXITY WE ARE ONLY BEGINNING TO FIND OUT ABOUT A TAD.


''There is nothing other than intelligent design that we have as an example for the kind of complex operation that makes up what the universe is all about. '' Intelligent design =/= a god. It just means it has to be more complex and very intelligent. AGAIN, THE COMPLEXITY IS THE COMPLEXITY OF THE UNIVERSE... SOMETHING WE HAVE ONLY BEGUN TO DISCOVER THE DETAILS OF.

Still a garbage argument, as I said, you are not getting out of this one.

Now don't be demeaning yourself by calling your thinking "garbage argument" like that. You are a pretty good thinker. But when are you going to recognize that you are doing yourself a disfavor when you won't recognize the scientific proof for God as you have been doing?

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July 02, 2018, 10:03:24 AM
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''You are kinda messed up if you think that car builders can all work independently and sort of accidentally come up with parts that fit together in the same car.'' Who said accidentally? I said different creators working together. Stop making shit up. THE COMPLEXITY OF THE UNIVERSE IS TOO GREAT FOR INDIVIDUAL CREATORS TO WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE SOMETHING LIKE OUR UNIVERSE. THEIR TOGETHERNESS WOULD HAVE TO BE SO GREAT THAT THEY WOULD BE WORKING AS ONE.

The word ''god'' is a made up word. Many things are defined as ''creator of the universe'' You have a ton of gods that fit that definition. Do you know Zeno from dragon ball? He also fits the definition, he is the creator of all the universes, I guess I could say Zeno did it because it fits the definition right? THIS TOPIC IS NOT ABOUT THE DETAILED DESCRIPTION OF GOD. IF SOMEBODY HAS A DEFINITION OF GOD THAT FITS THE SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN GOD, MORE POWER TO HIM.

Unfortunately even then, it's wrong because what definition does it fit? THE SCIENTIFIC DEFINITION THAT I HAVE BEEN SHOWING YOU. As previously mentioned nothing in your argument rules out the possibility of different entities creating the universe just like a lot of people work together to build a house or a car and YES they have to work together but they don't have to be one. THE COMPLEXITY OF PROJECT UNIVERSE, WHICH COMPLEXITY WE ARE ONLY BEGINNING TO FIND OUT ABOUT A TAD.


''There is nothing other than intelligent design that we have as an example for the kind of complex operation that makes up what the universe is all about. '' Intelligent design =/= a god. It just means it has to be more complex and very intelligent. AGAIN, THE COMPLEXITY IS THE COMPLEXITY OF THE UNIVERSE... SOMETHING WE HAVE ONLY BEGUN TO DISCOVER THE DETAILS OF.

Still a garbage argument, as I said, you are not getting out of this one.

Now don't be demeaning yourself by calling your thinking "garbage argument" like that. You are a pretty good thinker. But when are you going to recognize that you are doing yourself a disfavor when you won't recognize the scientific proof for God as you have been doing?

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''THE COMPLEXITY OF THE UNIVERSE IS TOO GREAT FOR INDIVIDUAL CREATORS TO WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE SOMETHING LIKE OUR UNIVERSE. THEIR TOGETHERNESS WOULD HAVE TO BE SO GREAT THAT THEY WOULD BE WORKING AS ONE.'' Nothing in your argument said anything about that, how did you determine that the universe is ''too complex''? Again, you are just making shit up, still a garbage argument. Tell me the math or evidence that shows the universe is too complex for individual creators to work together and create it. Rofl, let's see what you come up with now.



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