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July 02, 2018, 10:22:34 PM
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Can anyone offer scientific proof that God does not exist?

That's the question backwards. It's not about proving it does not exist because we can not proof a lot of things that do not exist. Ex: give me proof that the spaghettimonster does not exist?

Yes, exactly, a lot of religious people who believe in non sense will say that, we don't have to prove something doesn't exist because that's stupid.



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July 02, 2018, 10:35:14 PM
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Yes, exactly, a lot of religious people who believe in non sense will say that, we don't have to prove something doesn't exist because that's stupid.

A lot of atheists who believe in nonsense like physics,astrology,mother earth spirit,and palm readers will also say this too.It still doesn't answer the question that was asked though does it?
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July 02, 2018, 10:39:23 PM
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Yes, exactly, a lot of religious people who believe in non sense will say that, we don't have to prove something doesn't exist because that's stupid.

A lot of atheists who believe in nonsense like physics,astrology,mother earth spirit,and palm readers will also say this too.It still doesn't answer the question that was asked though does it?


Can you prove anything doesn't exist? Imagine anything, a giant pony that lives outside the universe, can you prove it doesn't exist? Does it mean it exists because you can't prove it doesn't? Would you believe it exists?



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July 02, 2018, 10:47:21 PM
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Yes, exactly, a lot of religious people who believe in non sense will say that, we don't have to prove something doesn't exist because that's stupid.

A lot of atheists who believe in nonsense like physics,astrology,mother earth spirit,and palm readers will also say this too.It still doesn't answer the question that was asked though does it?


Can you prove anything doesn't exist? Imagine anything, a giant pony that lives outside the universe, can you prove it doesn't exist? Does it mean it exists because you can't prove it doesn't? Would you believe it exists?

Well if outside the universe there is an ecosystem that supports such a life form theoretically speaking it could be a possibility so I cannot dismiss it

The answer is no.

Why is it so difficult for anyone to give a yes or no answer to a simple question without speculating?

The original question required a Yes or No answer to the point that was in question.
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July 02, 2018, 10:57:31 PM
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Yes, exactly, a lot of religious people who believe in non sense will say that, we don't have to prove something doesn't exist because that's stupid.

A lot of atheists who believe in nonsense like physics,astrology,mother earth spirit,and palm readers will also say this too.It still doesn't answer the question that was asked though does it?


Can you prove anything doesn't exist? Imagine anything, a giant pony that lives outside the universe, can you prove it doesn't exist? Does it mean it exists because you can't prove it doesn't? Would you believe it exists?

Well if outside the universe there is an ecosystem that supports such a life form theoretically speaking it could be a possibility so I cannot dismiss it

The answer is no.

Why is it so difficult for anyone to give a yes or no answer to a simple question without speculating?

The original question required a Yes or No answer to the point that was in question.

It's not a yes or no answer. If we are talking about the god from the bible, then yes, I can disprove his existence by showing the flaws in the bible, anything else is meaningless. You cannot have scientific proof that something doesn't exist unless we are able to know everything that exists with an 100% certainty.



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July 02, 2018, 11:02:19 PM
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Yes, exactly, a lot of religious people who believe in non sense will say that, we don't have to prove something doesn't exist because that's stupid.

A lot of atheists who believe in nonsense like physics,astrology,mother earth spirit,and palm readers will also say this too.It still doesn't answer the question that was asked though does it?


Can you prove anything doesn't exist? Imagine anything, a giant pony that lives outside the universe, can you prove it doesn't exist? Does it mean it exists because you can't prove it doesn't? Would you believe it exists?

Well if outside the universe there is an ecosystem that supports such a life form theoretically speaking it could be a possibility so I cannot dismiss it

The answer is no.

Why is it so difficult for anyone to give a yes or no answer to a simple question without speculating?

The original question required a Yes or No answer to the point that was in question.

It's not a yes or no answer. If we are talking about the god from the bible, then yes, I can disprove his existence by showing the flaws in the bible, anything else is meaningless. You cannot have scientific proof that something doesn't exist unless we are able to know everything that exists with an 100% certainty.


You need to reply with a simple Yes or No.I asked if anyone can provide scientific proof that God does not exist.What you offer is a biased opinion to suit an atheist narrative.This is not scientific proof God does not exist.

Original question:Yes or No?
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July 02, 2018, 11:03:38 PM
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Yes, exactly, a lot of religious people who believe in non sense will say that, we don't have to prove something doesn't exist because that's stupid.

A lot of atheists who believe in nonsense like physics,astrology,mother earth spirit,and palm readers will also say this too.It still doesn't answer the question that was asked though does it?


Can you prove anything doesn't exist? Imagine anything, a giant pony that lives outside the universe, can you prove it doesn't exist? Does it mean it exists because you can't prove it doesn't? Would you believe it exists?

Well if outside the universe there is an ecosystem that supports such a life form theoretically speaking it could be a possibility so I cannot dismiss it

The answer is no.

Why is it so difficult for anyone to give a yes or no answer to a simple question without speculating?

The original question required a Yes or No answer to the point that was in question.

It's not a yes or no answer. If we are talking about the god from the bible, then yes, I can disprove his existence by showing the flaws in the bible, anything else is meaningless. You cannot have scientific proof that something doesn't exist unless we are able to know everything that exists with an 100% certainty.


You need to reply with a simple yes or No.I asked if anyone can provide scientific proof that God does not exist.What you offer is a biased opinion to suit an atheist narrative.This is not scientific proof God does not exist.

Original question:Yes or No?

Which god? When you say god are you referring to the god from the bible? Otherwise how can I answer that question?



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July 02, 2018, 11:06:38 PM
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Yes, exactly, a lot of religious people who believe in non sense will say that, we don't have to prove something doesn't exist because that's stupid.

A lot of atheists who believe in nonsense like physics,astrology,mother earth spirit,and palm readers will also say this too.It still doesn't answer the question that was asked though does it?


Can you prove anything doesn't exist? Imagine anything, a giant pony that lives outside the universe, can you prove it doesn't exist? Does it mean it exists because you can't prove it doesn't? Would you believe it exists?

Well if outside the universe there is an ecosystem that supports such a life form theoretically speaking it could be a possibility so I cannot dismiss it

The answer is no.

Why is it so difficult for anyone to give a yes or no answer to a simple question without speculating?

The original question required a Yes or No answer to the point that was in question.

It's not a yes or no answer. If we are talking about the god from the bible, then yes, I can disprove his existence by showing the flaws in the bible, anything else is meaningless. You cannot have scientific proof that something doesn't exist unless we are able to know everything that exists with an 100% certainty.


You need to reply with a simple yes or No.I asked if anyone can provide scientific proof that God does not exist.What you offer is a biased opinion to suit an atheist narrative.This is not scientific proof God does not exist.

Original question:Yes or No?

Which god? When you say god are you referring to the god from the bible? Otherwise how can I answer that question?


The God of the Christian Bible/Hebrew Talmud
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July 02, 2018, 11:11:41 PM
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Yes, exactly, a lot of religious people who believe in non sense will say that, we don't have to prove something doesn't exist because that's stupid.

A lot of atheists who believe in nonsense like physics,astrology,mother earth spirit,and palm readers will also say this too.It still doesn't answer the question that was asked though does it?


Can you prove anything doesn't exist? Imagine anything, a giant pony that lives outside the universe, can you prove it doesn't exist? Does it mean it exists because you can't prove it doesn't? Would you believe it exists?

Well if outside the universe there is an ecosystem that supports such a life form theoretically speaking it could be a possibility so I cannot dismiss it

The answer is no.

Why is it so difficult for anyone to give a yes or no answer to a simple question without speculating?

The original question required a Yes or No answer to the point that was in question.

It's not a yes or no answer. If we are talking about the god from the bible, then yes, I can disprove his existence by showing the flaws in the bible, anything else is meaningless. You cannot have scientific proof that something doesn't exist unless we are able to know everything that exists with an 100% certainty.


You need to reply with a simple yes or No.I asked if anyone can provide scientific proof that God does not exist.What you offer is a biased opinion to suit an atheist narrative.This is not scientific proof God does not exist.

Original question:Yes or No?

Which god? When you say god are you referring to the god from the bible? Otherwise how can I answer that question?


The God of the Christian Bible/Hebrew Torah.

Yes I can scientifically prove he doesn't exist.

https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-scientific-errors-in-the-Bible

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Biblical_scientific_errors

These are only a few of the scientific errors in the bible.



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July 02, 2018, 11:17:30 PM
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Yes, exactly, a lot of religious people who believe in non sense will say that, we don't have to prove something doesn't exist because that's stupid.

A lot of atheists who believe in nonsense like physics,astrology,mother earth spirit,and palm readers will also say this too.It still doesn't answer the question that was asked though does it?


Can you prove anything doesn't exist? Imagine anything, a giant pony that lives outside the universe, can you prove it doesn't exist? Does it mean it exists because you can't prove it doesn't? Would you believe it exists?

Well if outside the universe there is an ecosystem that supports such a life form theoretically speaking it could be a possibility so I cannot dismiss it

The answer is no.

Why is it so difficult for anyone to give a yes or no answer to a simple question without speculating?

The original question required a Yes or No answer to the point that was in question.

It's not a yes or no answer. If we are talking about the god from the bible, then yes, I can disprove his existence by showing the flaws in the bible, anything else is meaningless. You cannot have scientific proof that something doesn't exist unless we are able to know everything that exists with an 100% certainty.


You need to reply with a simple yes or No.I asked if anyone can provide scientific proof that God does not exist.What you offer is a biased opinion to suit an atheist narrative.This is not scientific proof God does not exist.

Original question:Yes or No?

Which god? When you say god are you referring to the god from the bible? Otherwise how can I answer that question?


The God of the Christian Bible/Hebrew Torah.

Yes I can scientifically prove he doesn't exist.

https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-scientific-errors-in-the-Bible

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Biblical_scientific_errors

These are only a few of the scientific errors in the bible.

Thank you for your answer

I will review the supporting evidence you have provided to see if I can form an opinion myself based on scientific proof and facts and not mere speculation.
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July 02, 2018, 11:40:22 PM
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Yes, exactly, a lot of religious people who believe in non sense will say that, we don't have to prove something doesn't exist because that's stupid.

A lot of atheists who believe in nonsense like physics,astrology,mother earth spirit,and palm readers will also say this too.It still doesn't answer the question that was asked though does it?


Can you prove anything doesn't exist? Imagine anything, a giant pony that lives outside the universe, can you prove it doesn't exist? Does it mean it exists because you can't prove it doesn't? Would you believe it exists?

Well if outside the universe there is an ecosystem that supports such a life form theoretically speaking it could be a possibility so I cannot dismiss it

The answer is no.

Why is it so difficult for anyone to give a yes or no answer to a simple question without speculating?

The original question required a Yes or No answer to the point that was in question.

It's not a yes or no answer. If we are talking about the god from the bible, then yes, I can disprove his existence by showing the flaws in the bible, anything else is meaningless. You cannot have scientific proof that something doesn't exist unless we are able to know everything that exists with an 100% certainty.


You need to reply with a simple yes or No.I asked if anyone can provide scientific proof that God does not exist.What you offer is a biased opinion to suit an atheist narrative.This is not scientific proof God does not exist.

Original question:Yes or No?

Which god? When you say god are you referring to the god from the bible? Otherwise how can I answer that question?


The God of the Christian Bible/Hebrew Torah.

Yes I can scientifically prove he doesn't exist.

https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-scientific-errors-in-the-Bible

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Biblical_scientific_errors

These are only a few of the scientific errors in the bible.

Thank you for your answer

I will review the supporting evidence you have provided to see if I can form an opinion myself based on scientific proof and facts and not mere speculation.

There are tons of other things, notably the age of the earth and universe. You can estimate the age of earth/universe to be around 6-10k years old based on the bible, science has proven that the age of the earth and specially the universe is far faaaar older.



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July 03, 2018, 01:29:34 AM
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There are tons of other things, notably the age of the earth and universe. You can estimate the age of earth/universe to be around 6-10k years old based on the bible, science has proven that the age of the earth and specially the universe is far faaaar older.

All these scientifically measured things are guestimations that have no true, known basis in fact.

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God in your heart. Everyone say I love you. Do you have scientific proof.
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July 03, 2018, 07:46:24 AM
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There are tons of other things, notably the age of the earth and universe. You can estimate the age of earth/universe to be around 6-10k years old based on the bible, science has proven that the age of the earth and specially the universe is far faaaar older.

All these scientifically measured things are guestimations that have no true, known basis in fact.

Cool

Maybe, don't care too much about those. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg41361504#msg41361504  Here where I destroyed and debunked your argument, that's the real thread, you didn't respond, you don't have much else to say, do you? Cool   Rip badecker.



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July 08, 2018, 02:22:50 PM
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There are tons of other things, notably the age of the earth and universe. You can estimate the age of earth/universe to be around 6-10k years old based on the bible, science has proven that the age of the earth and specially the universe is far faaaar older.

All these scientifically measured things are guestimations that have no true, known basis in fact.

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Maybe, don't care too much about those. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg41361504#msg41361504  Here where I destroyed and debunked your argument, that's the real thread, you didn't respond, you don't have much else to say, do you? Cool   Rip badecker.

So, what are you really trying to say? That General Motors or Ford is not a single entity? Or that the people working therein are not entities?

Even if God is made up of multiple entities (scientifically speaking), they aren't God until they act as One. The complexity of the universe is so great that they have to act as One to make the universe. If they were not One, they would be making different forms of physics that would not seamlessly work together. But we do not find such seamlessness anywhere in the universe. One God; God is One.

How in the world backward are you in your thinking? If there are 5 people designing and making pistons for the same cylinder of a car engine, the diameter of the pistons must fit the cylinder or the engine won't work. To make the right size, they have to work together as one regarding their piston making.

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After I took AP Bio, I keep wondering how people believe that all this order in our universe was created out of coincidence, how everything perfectly fits together, how every molecule of protein is needed, or something terrible would happen to us if it were missing.
Honestly, God's helped me a lot, and there's no way that I'd ever turn my back to what he's helped me through, or what he's done for me.

Just the fact that you have a soul, and that you're not a robot.
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Mathmatician Kurt Gödel established this equation.Dr Gödel’s model uses mathematical equations that are extremely complicated, but the essence is that no greater power than God can be conceived, and if he or she is believed as a concept then he or she can exist in reality.

“Ax. 1. {P(φ)∧◻∀x[φ(x)→ψ(x)]} →P(ψ)Ax. 2.P(¬φ)↔¬P(φ)Th. 1.P(φ)→◊∃x[φ(x)]Df. 1.G(x)⟺∀φ[P(φ)→φ(x)]Ax. 3.P(G)Th. 2.◊∃xG(x)Df. 2.φ ess x⟺φ(x)∧∀ψ{ψ(x)→◻∀y[φ(y)→ψ(y)]}Ax. 4.P(φ)→◻P(φ)Th. 3.G(x)→G ess xDf. 3.E(x)⟺∀φ[φ ess x→◻∃yφ(y)]Ax. 5.P(E)Th. 4.◻∃xG(x)”

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July 08, 2018, 08:45:02 PM
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There are tons of other things, notably the age of the earth and universe. You can estimate the age of earth/universe to be around 6-10k years old based on the bible, science has proven that the age of the earth and specially the universe is far faaaar older.

All these scientifically measured things are guestimations that have no true, known basis in fact.

Cool

Maybe, don't care too much about those. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg41361504#msg41361504  Here where I destroyed and debunked your argument, that's the real thread, you didn't respond, you don't have much else to say, do you? Cool   Rip badecker.

So, what are you really trying to say? That General Motors or Ford is not a single entity? Or that the people working therein are not entities?

Even if God is made up of multiple entities (scientifically speaking), they aren't God until they act as One. The complexity of the universe is so great that they have to act as One to make the universe. If they were not One, they would be making different forms of physics that would not seamlessly work together. But we do not find such seamlessness anywhere in the universe. One God; God is One.

How in the world backward are you in your thinking? If there are 5 people designing and making pistons for the same cylinder of a car engine, the diameter of the pistons must fit the cylinder or the engine won't work. To make the right size, they have to work together as one regarding their piston making.

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''The complexity of the universe is so great that they have to act as One to make the universe.'' Prove it, how did you calculate ''how'' complex the universe is? And how do you determine whether they need to act ''as one'' in order to create it.

''they would be making different forms of physics that would not seamlessly work together.'' You are saying that like they can't talk to each other, I can build a house with other 10 people just fine, we communicate with each other, we have ideas and we can work together, in the end we are still 11 people, all different, not ''one''.

Also, the definition of god is not ''different entities working together as one'' so you can't really use that one either.

You are fried badecker, you are not even trying...



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July 08, 2018, 08:46:26 PM
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After I took AP Bio, I keep wondering how people believe that all this order in our universe was created out of coincidence, how everything perfectly fits together, how every molecule of protein is needed, or something terrible would happen to us if it were missing.
Honestly, God's helped me a lot, and there's no way that I'd ever turn my back to what he's helped me through, or what he's done for me.

Just the fact that you have a soul, and that you're not a robot.

Millions of our cells die all the time, your argument is pathetic. What does it mean when you say ''coincidence''? You simply don't understand that concept. ''Just the fact that you have a soul'' Having a soul is now a fact? Science proved souls?



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July 08, 2018, 09:20:53 PM
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Honestly, God's helped me a lot, and there's no way that I'd ever turn my back to what he's helped me through, or what he's done for me.

God doesn't exist, so how could he have helped you?

You are either gullible, or stupid.  :/

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