Scientific proof that God exists?

[Astargath]

FYI, you need to check up on the meaning of the word, 'fallacious' it does not mean, 'a tasty blow-job'.

You are dumb period. Answer this question -

Did Bitcoin come out of thin air?

You - I dont think there is any creator, science proves it is running according to the blockchain

Who made the blockchain in the first place?

Can you show me who made Bitcoin in real life? You cannot which proves you are dumb

Now the problem here is when people say the word God, average people like you think its a human like figure sitting on the clouds enjoying himself and doing stuff to humanity. Wrong

God is a consciousness, a power without any form, he made the universe and put in rules in it (Laws). He gave organisms free will to do anything they like, no questions asked. One cannot in any way blame God for anything. He made a game for us to play, if we perform badly or die in the game, we dont blame the creator.

All the religions teaching people how to live are leading them to the wrong place, they are creating hell on earth. What we need to do is accept the responsibility of our actions

How do you know all that? How do you know what god is exactly? Do you have any form of evidence for that?

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[RodeoX]

Page 248, still waiting to see this scientific proof?  

Not really sure by what you mean when you say "see." All scientific proof is proof for the existence of God. See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395.

None of those things even remotely constitutes scientific proof. If it did you could publish in Nature and stun the world. Science is a process of open peer review. It does not start with a statement like "There must be a God!" then a search for things that make that statement look correct. It starts with a question like "Is there a God? then moves to experiments and observations that lead to answers. Science has always run afoul with religion, kings, etc. because the answer is not what you want, it is what it is.

[GTO911]

How do you know all that? How do you know what god is exactly? Do you have any form of evidence for that?

That is the problem, never rely on somebody else for anything. From the start of time, humanity has been looking for answers which you are asking somebody on a forum, will you get it? No

If you need evidence and really want it, do this - Love humans, animals, plants, be kind, be gentle, be sensitive. Start meditating, you will start to feel him, for he has no form, we can only feel

I follow the teachings of Sikhism, not that i follow the religion, but research for academic interests. I think religions were made to make humans find the truth in the shortest time possible, but over time religions started getting misused and misinterpreted. We need to scrap all religions.

Here is the most beautiful teaching about god -

There is but one all pervading spirit, and it is called the truth, It exists in all creation , and it has no fear, It does not hate and , it is timeless, universal and self-existent!

, You will come to know it through seeking knowledge and learning.

"Recognize yourself, O mind! You are the light manifest. Rejoice in Guru's instruction that God is always with (in) you. If you recognize your Self, you shall know the Lord and shall get the knowledge of life and death"

No need to do anything like kill people or follow some other shit, just sit in a quiet corner of your house and meditate. Someday the truth shall reveal itself

[BADecker]

Page 248, still waiting to see this scientific proof?  

Not really sure by what you mean when you say "see." All scientific proof is proof for the existence of God. See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395.

None of those things even remotely constitutes scientific proof. If it did you could publish in Nature and stun the world. Science is a process of open peer review. It does not start with a statement like "There must be a God!" then a search for things that make that statement look correct. It starts with a question like "Is there a God? then moves to experiments and observations that lead to answers. Science has always run afoul with religion, kings, etc. because the answer is not what you want, it is what it is.

Peer review places science into the realm of scientists. However, the things that are examined by science are active and alive even if there are no scientists. Thus, scientific examination by scientists is inherently flawed because scientists are continually upgrading the things that they find. If this is not a flaw, then anything can be science. All it needs is peer review.

[UliJonHoth]

Hi Fluffer. Your Overblow isn't going to protect you from the reality of death. Come join us in the New Universe God is preparing for all who love Him.

Nah, I prefer the New Universe that a god I just imagined is creating for me and any other cool person who knows that your god is a cruel merciless narcissistic egomaniacal bastard.

Thanks for playing though.

 

Even if you believe that God is cruel, consider all the various ways that you enjoy life. He has allowed you these joys in life. He is God. Get on his side, in favor of Him, because think of how painful He can make it if you fight against Him.

Why would anyone follow some deity that was as sadistic as this one you are hawking to us? Hell, with "his" supposed track record, I'd rather side with that Lucifer guy...  2015 and people still buy-into this crap, it amazes me.

[Vod]

Now the problem here is when people say the word God, average people like you think its a human like figure sitting on the clouds enjoying himself and doing stuff to humanity. Wrong

Wrong.

Your bible clearly states man was made in your god's image.  Like every other brainwashed fool, you pick and choose which parts of your holy book to follow.  Pathetic.

[the joint]

Page 248, still waiting to see this scientific proof? 

It's hilarious that only one single sentence of *common academic knowledge* invalidates the entire thread:  Empiricism by definition can only explore and conclude upon what's observable (i.e. that which is physically constrained) and so it is axiomatically impossible for empicism to explore God (which is totally unconstrained by common definition).

So many things said in this thread, so much time wasted.

[GTO911]

Your bible clearly states man was made in your god's image.  Like every other brainwashed fool, you pick and choose which parts of your holy book to follow.  Pathetic.

Whats more pathetic is you constantly talking about the church when im not even following any religion. Looks like you didnt read anything written last page and just talking out of your ass

We are talking God - Religion. Are you clear? or should i say it again?

[Vod]

Your bible clearly states man was made in your god's image.  Like every other brainwashed fool, you pick and choose which parts of your holy book to follow.  Pathetic.

Whats more pathetic is you constantly talking about the church when im not even following any religion. Looks like you didnt read anything written last page and just talking out of your ass

We are talking God - Religion. Are you clear? or should i say it again?

I'm an atheist.  You're the one that's pathetic my friend.   

[GTO911]

I'm an atheist.  You're the one that's pathetic my friend.   

Good, enjoy your pathetic ignorant life in a bubble. Leave things beyond average minds to us 

Just like you cannot teach an ant the significance of Bitcoin

[Vod]

I'm an atheist.  You're the one that's pathetic my friend.  

Good, enjoy your pathetic ignorant life in a bubble. Leave things beyond average minds to us  

Just like you cannot teach an ant the significance of Bitcoin

I'm ignorant?  You believe in fairy tales.  

Anyway, I don't argue with brainwashed fools - stick your head back in the sand my friend.  

Every day thousands of people are giving up on religion. Society as a whole is getting educated.  Time is on my side.  

[GTO911]

I'm ignorant?  You believe in fairy tales.  

Anyway, I don't argue with brainwashed fools - stick your head back in the sand my friend.  

Can ants argue with humans that Bitcoin is a fairy tale?

I said a thousand times, i am against religions but you are just too dumb my friend 

[KryptonS]

I don't have scientific proof but I can tell you something that someone close to me told me.

If you seen a boat in the ocean and someone told you it was created by no one.
Would you believe it? If you said no there's your answer. Everything was created by someone. If you said no that is okay as it is your opinion as how you see religion and god.

Hope I helped in some way

[RodeoX]

Peer review places science into the realm of scientists. However, ...

I don't totally understand, but it is true that most people alive today and certainly most who lived in the past 10,000 years believed in some kind of God and would agree with you. I know that is one of the arguments; "There must be a God because so many believe in a God."

It does bring up the question of which God. So many religions contradict one another and that makes it even more unclear. Is it Ahura Mozda, Yum Kimil, Ganesha? There are thousands of Gods and each has it's devoted followers who believe with all their heart that their God is real. Are they all correct or are they all wrong? If asked I think many of them would say that only they are right and all other Gods are the product of a delusional mind.

This is why logic, math and science have taken over the world and is replacing religion as a dominant philosophical paradigm. It is not subjective and belief has nothing to do with it. 1+1=2 no matter who or where you are. The Earth goes around the Sun even if the Bible says it does not.
It does not depend on a vague notion or "sense" of Gods presence. Those things are simply not universal in how they are experienced. When a Hindu cries at his transcendent experience of mystical joy is he delusional? Or when I stand in awe at the wondrous mysteries of nature is that different? I don't know.

[Vod]

Everything was created by someone.

What created your god?

[Buffer Overflow]

I don't totally understand, but it is true that most people alive today and certainly most who lived in the past 10,000 years believed in some kind of God and would agree with you. I know that is one of the arguments; "There must be a God because so many believe in a God."

This is called "appealing to the masses" a common fallacious argument.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum

[Rampton]

Everything was created by someone.

What created your god?

Humans. We have a penchant for selling bullshit and others buying it throughout time. Sadly it still continues to this day.

[cryptodevil]

FYI, you need to check up on the meaning of the word, 'fallacious' it does not mean, 'a tasty blow-job'.

You are dumb period.

You'll also be needing to check up on the meaning of the term, "Ad hominem", it is not a commercial for a gay white rapper.

See, your failure to understand and practice intellectual honesty leads you to make baseless assertions as though they were fact and to utilise your 'absolute certainty' in the belief it lends credence to your almighty imagination

God is a consciousness, a power without any form, he made the universe and put in rules in it (Laws). He gave organisms free will to do anything they like, no questions asked. One cannot in any way blame God for anything. He made a game for us to play, if we perform badly or die in the game, we dont blame the creator.

See, you're asserting something yet the basis by which you are asserting it is entirely fallacious.

You lack intellectual integrity. That is not an ad-hominem, that is a rational observation derived from the data you have thus far presented, namely, confidently asserted wild speculation as fact.

[Astargath]

Your bible clearly states man was made in your god's image.  Like every other brainwashed fool, you pick and choose which parts of your holy book to follow.  Pathetic.

Whats more pathetic is you constantly talking about the church when im not even following any religion. Looks like you didnt read anything written last page and just talking out of your ass

We are talking God - Religion. Are you clear? or should i say it again?

Where did you get the idea from god then? If not from the bible

[SlickMoTwoToe]

We have a penchant for selling bullshit and others buying it throughout time. Sadly it still continues to this day.

I too have spent some time on the "Marketplace" boards here.

But really, I don't think some vague idea of a god is that big a deal. It's the fact that people around here literally think you have to be "saved" or you're going to Hell. They are all for freedom of religion as long as it is their religion. Maybe once a larger body of knowledge shows that consciousness comes from the brain rather than the soul, it will be easy to disprove the concept of heaven/hell to these people and religion will either unravel or become less influential after that.