Scientific proof that God exists?

[odolvlobo]

... It claims genetic science shows all humans descend from one woman (99k–200k years ago) ...

There is a simple reason for this and it is not because originally there was only one woman. Mitochondrial DNA is passed directly from mother to child, and that DNA determines the line of female ancestors. So,

Imagine a population of 100,000 women. In every generation, a woman can have:

• 0 daughters (her specific mitochondrial line ends).
• 1 daughter (her line continues).
• 2+ daughters (her line expands).

There is a high probability that any single line will eventually hit zero because of the women who have no daughters. Over thousands of generations, lineages go extinct one by one until, by process of elimination, only one line remains that hasn't been broken.

... It claims genetic science shows all humans descend from ... one man (120k–338k years ago)

This also has a reason that is similar but not as simple, but it is not because there was originally one man. Genealogical DNA is recombined at every generation and it is a fact that you have the same ancestors as every other person on the planet because your number of potential ancestors has expanded exponentially to far beyond the actual number of people that have ever existed. However, the number of markers is limited to a rather low number, so just like the fact that number of female lines eventually goes to 1, so does the number of male lines. That is my understanding.


Anyway, you can't claim that DNA proves the existence of Adam and Eve and also claim that the earth is 6000 years old, because the DNA also shows that the humans have been around at least a hundred thousand years.

[BADecker]

Just a note:

1. The Earth is about 7,500 years old in this age (form). The Septuagint (the oldest Bible), and Josephus are in almost complete agreement on this. You can find most of the info here Steven Rudd - https://biblearchaeology.org/staffdig/4265-mr-steven-rudd. There is a lot of info, but it is pretty much clarified in this one website.

2. "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was formless and void... ." The Ancient Hebrew word for the word "was," is a word that has been translated as "became" or "has become" in about 110 other places in the OT. I am not a Hebrew scholar, but I am getting the feeling that the Ancient Hebrew was an active language. The word in question meant both, 'was' and 'became' at the same time. We can't do this in English without using a bunch of words. The point is, there were other 'ages' 'before' the Beginning of the Bible, and the Bible says it, albeit not clearly.

Note that the first thing that God created was light. If that included the whole electromagnetic spectrum, time might easily have been different as well, and outside of what all the scientists say about the age of the universe. We simply don't know enough.

3. People were different in the past and distant past. We don't know if the mitochondrial DNA followed the same laws that it is following today.

4. Carbon dating being used as proof of how old things are, is false. Why? Because it is based on the idea that C14 was always produced at a speed similar to what it is nowadays. But we don't know that this was always true in the distant past. There may easily have been times that there was almost no C14 being created, and other times that there was a lot of C14. We can't accurately use it to determine the age of anything beyond about 5,000 years.