Scientific proof that God exists?

[Decksperiment]

Actually, when cannibals tie somebody to a "steak" and cook him and eat him, it ain't the person they're after. It's the steak.

Actually, as you quite clearly state, it's the steak they are after, so would'nt it be easier to write, when cannibals tie a steak to a human who in turn is tied to a stake.. why not just eat the fuckin steak and leave the human who is still tied to the stake for puddin?

Spot your god given mistake homeboi

[BADecker]

So how did jesus feed the thousands? Please dont go into it, I know the story, my question is a simple one, how did he do it?

God is all powerful and can created out of nothing.

You keep making comments about some sort of miracle you have done.  Don't you realize that there have been numerous miracles done through dark magic and sorcery?  Just because it can be done does not make it good.  

Look at the the story of Moses and Pharoah in Exodus.  When Moses performed some miracles, such as turning his staff into a snake, water into blood and creating frogs from the land, the magicians or sorcerers were able to do it with their dark magic as well.  

Please do me a favour an stop goin on about this magic stuff, be it dark or light.. it realy, really is all the same to me. Go read the seer's burden, then try convincing me again, of what you just wrote?

Back soon

Satan comes masquerading as an "angel of light."  Be careful.  His goal to is to come and "steal, kill and destroy" from us all.  The fact that it is all the same to you is what is the most disconcerting.  It shows you do not have any discernment in these things.

This is exactly the point. And BitChick has stated it in simple terms.

Nobody can do enough magic to save himself/herself from death. Jesus' focus wasn't on doing the miracles. His focus was on doing the one miracle that nobody else could do - saving from death for eternal life.

One need only look at the great mistake that Satan made when he became, possibly, the greatest miracle-doer of all time. He became proud and conceited, and ignored that only God could save him.

It doesn't take long for a person who can do miracles to fall into the same trap as Satan. All you have to do is look at how money corrupts, and money making doesn't even fall into the realm of miracles. Doing miracles is far worse.

This is why God condemns all who practice the magic arts. They might have success, but if they do, it will ultimately destroy them. And God wants EVERYONE to be saved. This why the focus needs to be on Jesus, and the ONE GREAT MIRACLE He did, the miracle of salvation.

And you are seriously pushing me to the dark side.. not..

Anyway.. allow me to point you in the direction of a coconut. I must miss out on some vital instructions for fear of what others may do with what you are about to learn.

Take coconut, scoop out the white stuff, drink or eat, feel free, cause it's the cocounut carcas we want.

So you believe in the blood of christ do you? Allow me. It is not wine, blood, or anything other than .... a mouldy fungi, bred in a certain circmstance. It is almost an equivalant of fly agaric, so I'll use the effect's of fly agaric as an example to describe the fact that there are certain potent fungi that can be consumed, and once consumed, they pass through the body with the exact same potency, and will have the exact same potency after passing through 10.000 men. fly-agaric only works with up to 10 people in a row. When Jesus broke the bread, it was soaked not in fly-agaric, it was soaked in the coconut's version, Allowing him to feed maybe one or two people the actual bread, the rest drank their pish. The difference is that whilst fly-agaric is clearly at least 9.000 times weaker, but deadlier (poison), the coconut version can feed more than 5.000 from a single sip, such is the potency. But a potency that can FEED, as opposed to get them trippin. When I said googel filters certain documents, what I write here comes from one of them, which I have in my library, and am looking for whilst I type..

Please tell me I'm talking nonsense here, cause I know many others who read this will know again, a librarian knows more..

I will tentatively accept that you know what you are talking about. But be careful. With great knowledge also comes pride, and that pride can become great, as well. Pride detracts from salvation of the soul, which keeps the body from being saved as well.

[Decksperiment]

Being a "seer" is not necessarily a good thing.  See my previous post.   You have said many things that make me wonder if you are dabbling in the occult.  Sure there is "knowledge" there, but at what cost?  Even Satan "sees" and has "knowledge" and he has even done what are considered "miracles" but it is a dangerous game that is played and can lead down a dark and destructive path that only leads to death and suffering in the end. 

I did not ask for this 'burden' neither can i change it, it is who I am, not my problem.

[BADecker]

Actually, when cannibals tie somebody to a "steak" and cook him and eat him, it ain't the person they're after. It's the steak.

Actually, as you quite clearly state, it's the steak they are after, so would'nt it be easier to write, when cannibals tie a steak to a human who in turn is tied to a stake.. why not just eat the fuckin steak and leave the human who is still tied to the stake for puddin?

Spot your god given mistake homeboi

Because cannibals aren't so hard up that they have to be fuckin a steak.  

[Decksperiment]

So how did jesus feed the thousands? Please dont go into it, I know the story, my question is a simple one, how did he do it?

God is all powerful and can created out of nothing.

You keep making comments about some sort of miracle you have done.  Don't you realize that there have been numerous miracles done through dark magic and sorcery?  Just because it can be done does not make it good.  

Look at the the story of Moses and Pharoah in Exodus.  When Moses performed some miracles, such as turning his staff into a snake, water into blood and creating frogs from the land, the magicians or sorcerers were able to do it with their dark magic as well.  

Please do me a favour an stop goin on about this magic stuff, be it dark or light.. it realy, really is all the same to me. Go read the seer's burden, then try convincing me again, of what you just wrote?

Back soon

Satan comes masquerading as an "angel of light."  Be careful.  His goal to is to come and "steal, kill and destroy" from us all.  The fact that it is all the same to you is what is the most disconcerting.  It shows you do not have any discernment in these things.

This is exactly the point. And BitChick has stated it in simple terms.

Nobody can do enough magic to save himself/herself from death. Jesus' focus wasn't on doing the miracles. His focus was on doing the one miracle that nobody else could do - saving from death for eternal life.

One need only look at the great mistake that Satan made when he became, possibly, the greatest miracle-doer of all time. He became proud and conceited, and ignored that only God could save him.

It doesn't take long for a person who can do miracles to fall into the same trap as Satan. All you have to do is look at how money corrupts, and money making doesn't even fall into the realm of miracles. Doing miracles is far worse.

This is why God condemns all who practice the magic arts. They might have success, but if they do, it will ultimately destroy them. And God wants EVERYONE to be saved. This why the focus needs to be on Jesus, and the ONE GREAT MIRACLE He did, the miracle of salvation.

And you are seriously pushing me to the dark side.. not..

Anyway.. allow me to point you in the direction of a coconut. I must miss out on some vital instructions for fear of what others may do with what you are about to learn.

Take coconut, scoop out the white stuff, drink or eat, feel free, cause it's the cocounut carcas we want.

So you believe in the blood of christ do you? Allow me. It is not wine, blood, or anything other than .... a mouldy fungi, bred in a certain circmstance. It is almost an equivalant of fly agaric, so I'll use the effect's of fly agaric as an example to describe the fact that there are certain potent fungi that can be consumed, and once consumed, they pass through the body with the exact same potency, and will have the exact same potency after passing through 10.000 men. fly-agaric only works with up to 10 people in a row. When Jesus broke the bread, it was soaked not in fly-agaric, it was soaked in the coconut's version, Allowing him to feed maybe one or two people the actual bread, the rest drank their pish. The difference is that whilst fly-agaric is clearly at least 9.000 times weaker, but deadlier (poison), the coconut version can feed more than 5.000 from a single sip, such is the potency. But a potency that can FEED, as opposed to get them trippin. When I said googel filters certain documents, what I write here comes from one of them, which I have in my library, and am looking for whilst I type..

Please tell me I'm talking nonsense here, cause I know many others who read this will know again, a librarian knows more..

I will tentatively accept that you know what you are talking about. But be careful. With great knowledge also comes pride, and that pride can become great, as well. Pride detracts from salvation of the soul, which keeps the body from being saved as well.

Dude, I read books, not just one. I have translated plutarch from ancient hellenic into english myself. Pride has nothing to do with what I'm doing here, all I been saying is that in the quest for scientific proof of god, I'm doin a better job than you, bitchick and cortex7 combined, pride has got nothing to do with it.. but slowly and surely the ice melts, and your all learning that, actually, god would rather I was on his side, then your satans..

[Decksperiment]

But thanks BADecker, for recognising that I aint that mad.. that I may know what I'm talking about.. nearly, but what I got is not a source of pride, but a scource of RESPONSIBILITY that goes WELL beyond that which I call Bible Basher's, FORCE onto humanity.. do we WANT saved?

Some people NEED to find out the hard way, and as a hardcore scratchmaster DJ, I gotta learn the HARD way..

[BADecker]

So how did jesus feed the thousands? Please dont go into it, I know the story, my question is a simple one, how did he do it?

God is all powerful and can created out of nothing.

You keep making comments about some sort of miracle you have done.  Don't you realize that there have been numerous miracles done through dark magic and sorcery?  Just because it can be done does not make it good.  

Look at the the story of Moses and Pharoah in Exodus.  When Moses performed some miracles, such as turning his staff into a snake, water into blood and creating frogs from the land, the magicians or sorcerers were able to do it with their dark magic as well.  

Please do me a favour an stop goin on about this magic stuff, be it dark or light.. it realy, really is all the same to me. Go read the seer's burden, then try convincing me again, of what you just wrote?

Back soon

Satan comes masquerading as an "angel of light."  Be careful.  His goal to is to come and "steal, kill and destroy" from us all.  The fact that it is all the same to you is what is the most disconcerting.  It shows you do not have any discernment in these things.

This is exactly the point. And BitChick has stated it in simple terms.

Nobody can do enough magic to save himself/herself from death. Jesus' focus wasn't on doing the miracles. His focus was on doing the one miracle that nobody else could do - saving from death for eternal life.

One need only look at the great mistake that Satan made when he became, possibly, the greatest miracle-doer of all time. He became proud and conceited, and ignored that only God could save him.

It doesn't take long for a person who can do miracles to fall into the same trap as Satan. All you have to do is look at how money corrupts, and money making doesn't even fall into the realm of miracles. Doing miracles is far worse.

This is why God condemns all who practice the magic arts. They might have success, but if they do, it will ultimately destroy them. And God wants EVERYONE to be saved. This why the focus needs to be on Jesus, and the ONE GREAT MIRACLE He did, the miracle of salvation.

And you are seriously pushing me to the dark side.. not..

Anyway.. allow me to point you in the direction of a coconut. I must miss out on some vital instructions for fear of what others may do with what you are about to learn.

Take coconut, scoop out the white stuff, drink or eat, feel free, cause it's the cocounut carcas we want.

So you believe in the blood of christ do you? Allow me. It is not wine, blood, or anything other than .... a mouldy fungi, bred in a certain circmstance. It is almost an equivalant of fly agaric, so I'll use the effect's of fly agaric as an example to describe the fact that there are certain potent fungi that can be consumed, and once consumed, they pass through the body with the exact same potency, and will have the exact same potency after passing through 10.000 men. fly-agaric only works with up to 10 people in a row. When Jesus broke the bread, it was soaked not in fly-agaric, it was soaked in the coconut's version, Allowing him to feed maybe one or two people the actual bread, the rest drank their pish. The difference is that whilst fly-agaric is clearly at least 9.000 times weaker, but deadlier (poison), the coconut version can feed more than 5.000 from a single sip, such is the potency. But a potency that can FEED, as opposed to get them trippin. When I said googel filters certain documents, what I write here comes from one of them, which I have in my library, and am looking for whilst I type..

Please tell me I'm talking nonsense here, cause I know many others who read this will know again, a librarian knows more..

I will tentatively accept that you know what you are talking about. But be careful. With great knowledge also comes pride, and that pride can become great, as well. Pride detracts from salvation of the soul, which keeps the body from being saved as well.

Dude, I read books, not just one. I have translated plutarch from ancient hellenic into english myself. Pride has nothing to do with what I'm doing here, all I been saying is that in the quest for scientific proof of god, I'm doin a better job than you, bitchick and cortex7 combined, pride has got nothing to do with it.. but slowly and surely the ice melts, and your all learning that, actually, god would rather I was on his side, then your satans..

All right. I will accept that you are some kind of knowledgeable guru. But you aren't strong enough to be able to live forever. And it seems that you aren't knowledgeable enough to recognize the salvation that Jesus offers. So, it seems that your pride of your own knowledge has tricked you into heading for destruction, after all, even if it is a sorta humble way.

[Decksperiment]

So how did jesus feed the thousands? Please dont go into it, I know the story, my question is a simple one, how did he do it?

God is all powerful and can created out of nothing.

You keep making comments about some sort of miracle you have done.  Don't you realize that there have been numerous miracles done through dark magic and sorcery?  Just because it can be done does not make it good.  

Look at the the story of Moses and Pharoah in Exodus.  When Moses performed some miracles, such as turning his staff into a snake, water into blood and creating frogs from the land, the magicians or sorcerers were able to do it with their dark magic as well.  

Please do me a favour an stop goin on about this magic stuff, be it dark or light.. it realy, really is all the same to me. Go read the seer's burden, then try convincing me again, of what you just wrote?

Back soon

Satan comes masquerading as an "angel of light."  Be careful.  His goal to is to come and "steal, kill and destroy" from us all.  The fact that it is all the same to you is what is the most disconcerting.  It shows you do not have any discernment in these things.

This is exactly the point. And BitChick has stated it in simple terms.

Nobody can do enough magic to save himself/herself from death. Jesus' focus wasn't on doing the miracles. His focus was on doing the one miracle that nobody else could do - saving from death for eternal life.

One need only look at the great mistake that Satan made when he became, possibly, the greatest miracle-doer of all time. He became proud and conceited, and ignored that only God could save him.

It doesn't take long for a person who can do miracles to fall into the same trap as Satan. All you have to do is look at how money corrupts, and money making doesn't even fall into the realm of miracles. Doing miracles is far worse.

This is why God condemns all who practice the magic arts. They might have success, but if they do, it will ultimately destroy them. And God wants EVERYONE to be saved. This why the focus needs to be on Jesus, and the ONE GREAT MIRACLE He did, the miracle of salvation.

And you are seriously pushing me to the dark side.. not..

Anyway.. allow me to point you in the direction of a coconut. I must miss out on some vital instructions for fear of what others may do with what you are about to learn.

Take coconut, scoop out the white stuff, drink or eat, feel free, cause it's the cocounut carcas we want.

So you believe in the blood of christ do you? Allow me. It is not wine, blood, or anything other than .... a mouldy fungi, bred in a certain circmstance. It is almost an equivalant of fly agaric, so I'll use the effect's of fly agaric as an example to describe the fact that there are certain potent fungi that can be consumed, and once consumed, they pass through the body with the exact same potency, and will have the exact same potency after passing through 10.000 men. fly-agaric only works with up to 10 people in a row. When Jesus broke the bread, it was soaked not in fly-agaric, it was soaked in the coconut's version, Allowing him to feed maybe one or two people the actual bread, the rest drank their pish. The difference is that whilst fly-agaric is clearly at least 9.000 times weaker, but deadlier (poison), the coconut version can feed more than 5.000 from a single sip, such is the potency. But a potency that can FEED, as opposed to get them trippin. When I said googel filters certain documents, what I write here comes from one of them, which I have in my library, and am looking for whilst I type..

Please tell me I'm talking nonsense here, cause I know many others who read this will know again, a librarian knows more..

I will tentatively accept that you know what you are talking about. But be careful. With great knowledge also comes pride, and that pride can become great, as well. Pride detracts from salvation of the soul, which keeps the body from being saved as well.

Dude, I read books, not just one. I have translated plutarch from ancient hellenic into english myself. Pride has nothing to do with what I'm doing here, all I been saying is that in the quest for scientific proof of god, I'm doin a better job than you, bitchick and cortex7 combined, pride has got nothing to do with it.. but slowly and surely the ice melts, and your all learning that, actually, god would rather I was on his side, then your satans..

All right. I will accept that you are some kind of knowledgeable guru. But you aren't strong enough to be able to live forever. And it seems that you aren't knowledgeable enough to recognize the salvation that Jesus offers. So, it seems that your pride of your own knowledge has tricked you into heading for destruction, after all, even if it is a sorta humble way.

Oh boy.. 1927.. T.I.R.O. after 120 years I shall return.

Edit: I know that we ALL return to the ALL soul, and when a new body is free, and it is our turn, we will return. We give birth to our kids, but the their souls are nothing to do with the parents. Their souls were placed there, in the child's body, by sexual fantasies of people WISHING instead of acting out.

[BADecker]

As for the proof for God, it is right here. But there is even more that is not listed.

The first proof for the existence of God is the existence of the universe and everything therein.

The universe is a big machine. It is a highly complex machine. No machine ever existed without a Machine Maker. Whatever or Whoever the Machine Maker is, He is greater by far than mankind. By definition of the word "god," the Machine Maker is God.

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The second proof for the existence of God is, there is no pure random. Everything operates by cause and effect, action and reaction. A leaf blowing this way and that in the wind, does so according to the actions of wind molecules on it. The wind molecules act according to other wind molecules that are acting on them. All act according to the waves/particles of heat energy from the sun acting on them all.

Cause and effect goes all the way back to the beginning. Whatever was the Great First Cause was the only thing that had random in it. THAT random produced all the complexities of the universe that we see today, through the cause and effect, the action and reaction that followed.

The thing that people call random and probability is all based on the ignorance of the people. Nobody can follow all the actions of wind molecules on a leaf. People might be able to follow enough of the actions to make a good guess about how the leaf might move. This is the random that the people use. This is the only probability that exists. It is born of the ignorance of the people. There is no true, pure random.

The point is, whatever the Great First Cause is, be it the Big Bang, or be it the God of the Bible, or anything else, it is EXTREMELY God beyond anything we can envision God to be, simply because of the complexity it set up in the beginning, complexity that exists through cause and effect right down to the present.

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The third proof for the existence of God lies in the fact that there are billions of people around the world who believe there is a god. All science exists outside of the minds of scientists. A little of it resides in scientific languages (math and writing and speaking) within the minds of scientists. Because of the existence in the minds, the evidence for God in the minds of the people is as valid as any other proof. Even many scientists believe that God exists.

The longer the earth has existed, the longer God has existed in the minds of the people. God is there. He can't be removed from the minds of the people. He might be dulled somewhat, but He can't be removed. He exists.

[BADecker]

Oh that's right. You have already said that you agree that God exists. I forgot. 

[Decksperiment]

Oh that's right. You have already said that you agree that God exists. I forgot.  

Just keep in mind, mine is greater, for he does not recognise the devil, for the maths proves they are one and the same. I like to think my god is also the devil, as are we.

An example..

Dark(satan)-----------------------------------------------------------------------------Light(yaweh)

Different ends of the same scale. dark or light ^ <- I'm here

[BADecker]

Oh that's right. You have already said that you agree that God exists. I forgot. 

Just keep in mind, mine is greater, for he does not recognise the devil, for the maths proves they are one and the same. I like to think my god is also the devil, as are we.

I don't have a clue who or what your god is. For all I know, he is the same one as mine is, just seen from a different direction.

The point is, the devil attempted to believe God out of existence. He did it by starting with his own personal thought control. Then he subtly attempted to introduce it into the thinking of people (through Adam and Eve). Well, he can't stop this habit of his, even though God has shown him down through the ages, over and over, that he can't believe God out of existence, and he can't delude all the people all of the time into believing God out of existence.

He knows God exists, in spite of himself.

[Decksperiment]

Oh that's right. You have already said that you agree that God exists. I forgot.  

Just keep in mind, mine is greater, for he does not recognise the devil, for the maths proves they are one and the same. I like to think my god is also the devil, as are we.

I don't have a clue who or what your god is. For all I know, he is the same one as mine is, just seen from a different direction.

The point is, the devil attempted to believe God out of existence. He did it by starting with his own personal thought control. Then he subtly attempted to introduce it into the thinking of people (through Adam and Eve). Well, he can't stop this habit of his, even though God has shown him down through the ages, over and over, that he can't believe God out of existence, and he can't delude all the people all of the time into believing God out of existence.

He knows God exists, in spite of himself.

Now that's scary.. you go on about the bible and dont know who yaweh is?

In hebrew, there are 72 names of god. Now what name sums them ALL up?

The 216 digit number, that holy of hollies built into EVERY religious building represent's it..?

Crazy Idea no.1:

Lets pretend your the pope, and I'm einstein. You first.


Ok (impatience) - my turn..

Correct me if I'm wrong, but is'nt it written in the bible, that only those who know his name can use it?

[BADecker]

Oh that's right. You have already said that you agree that God exists. I forgot.  

Just keep in mind, mine is greater, for he does not recognise the devil, for the maths proves they are one and the same. I like to think my god is also the devil, as are we.

I don't have a clue who or what your god is. For all I know, he is the same one as mine is, just seen from a different direction.

The point is, the devil attempted to believe God out of existence. He did it by starting with his own personal thought control. Then he subtly attempted to introduce it into the thinking of people (through Adam and Eve). Well, he can't stop this habit of his, even though God has shown him down through the ages, over and over, that he can't believe God out of existence, and he can't delude all the people all of the time into believing God out of existence.

He knows God exists, in spite of himself.

Now that's scary.. you go on about the bible and dont know who yaweh is?

In hebrew, there are 72 names of god. Now what name sums them ALL up?

The 216 digit number, that holy of hollies built into EVERY religious building represent's it..?

If you happen to be your own god, you are missing it. Even Moses and Elijah weren't God in essence, even though they both held some of the attributes of God. However, Jesus was... the Father gave Him the Spirit without limit.

The fact that you are willing to downplay, if not outrightly deny, Jesus, is a fruit that suggests that you are of the evil one, and not of God, no matter the language or names you use.

Because I AM not God either, I will have to treat you as Michael treated Satan when they were disputing over the body of Moses... "The Lord rebuke you..." Why? Because only the Lord knows the extent to which you need rebuking, or if you need it at all.

[Decksperiment]

Oh that's right. You have already said that you agree that God exists. I forgot.  

Just keep in mind, mine is greater, for he does not recognise the devil, for the maths proves they are one and the same. I like to think my god is also the devil, as are we.

I don't have a clue who or what your god is. For all I know, he is the same one as mine is, just seen from a different direction.

The point is, the devil attempted to believe God out of existence. He did it by starting with his own personal thought control. Then he subtly attempted to introduce it into the thinking of people (through Adam and Eve). Well, he can't stop this habit of his, even though God has shown him down through the ages, over and over, that he can't believe God out of existence, and he can't delude all the people all of the time into believing God out of existence.

He knows God exists, in spite of himself.

Now that's scary.. you go on about the bible and dont know who yaweh is?

In hebrew, there are 72 names of god. Now what name sums them ALL up?

The 216 digit number, that holy of hollies built into EVERY religious building represent's it..?

If you happen to be your own god, you are missing it. Even Moses and Elijah weren't God in essence, even though they both held some of the attributes of God. However, Jesus was... the Father gave Him the Spirit without limit.

The fact that you are willing to downplay, if not outrightly deny, Jesus, is a fruit that suggests that you are of the evil one, and not of God, no matter the language or names you use.

Because I AM not God either, I will have to treat you as Michael treated Satan when they were disputing over the body of Moses... "The Lord rebuke you..." Why? Because only the Lord knows the extent to which you need rebuking, or if you need it at all.

Do I look like my own god?

Allow me to change direction for a mo..

As a kid, I was doin majorette's with two pairs of nunchuks copying brucy baby (bruce lee) and in my lifetime I learnt a plethora of hand weaponry (not guns etc), and in that time, I learnt mastery over the element's using qi gong tai chi.. see? Everything is slowly falling into place..

In my 45th year, exactly seven months to the minute I was hit by a car, cow took a right without indicating, I hit her drivers door, and went over the bonnet, and as I went over that bonnet, I thought I was dead, I gave over to cosmic law, for I am a child of earth and stary heaven. As my friend stated.. mastery over the elements.. cause I shoulda been dead.. now as i flew over the bonnet, I blacked out. The last thing goin through my mind was well, twas nice seein y'all.. I knew what happened, and in the words of my mate, mastery over time. This was nothing to do with the devil. This was God's will pure and simple, if anything.

[bl4kjaguar]

And it seems that you aren't knowledgeable enough to recognize the salvation that Jesus offers.

Jesus the Christ NEVER established a church on earth, and he did not EVER ONCE suggest he was your SAVIOR.

There are no “saviors” to save anything or more specifically anyone! If there is going to be any “saving” going on--you will do it for yourself.

You will EARN your way into God's Grace by standing responsible for self and obeying THE LAWS OF GOD/CREATION.

[Decksperiment]

And it seems that you aren't knowledgeable enough to recognize the salvation that Jesus offers.

Jesus the Christ NEVER established a church on earth, and he did not EVER ONCE suggest he was your SAVIOR.

There are no “saviors” to save anything or more specifically anyone! If there is going to be any “saving” going on--you will do it for yourself.

You will EARN your way into God's Grace by standing responsible for self and obeying THE LAWS OF GOD/CREATION.

+1

[BADecker]

Do I look like my own god?

Can't tell. Don't know what yo look like. Do you ever use any smileys?

Allow me to change direction for a mo..

As a kid, I was doin majorette's with two pairs of nunchuks copying brucy baby (bruce lee) and in my lifetime I learnt a plethora of hand weaponry (not guns etc), and in that time, I learnt mastery over the element's using qi gong tai chi.. see? Everything is slowly falling into place..

In my 45th year, exactly seven months to the minute I was hit by a car, cow took a right without indicating, I hit her drivers door, and went over the bonnet, and as I went over that bonnet, I thought I was dead, I gave over to cosmic law, for I am a child of earth and stary heaven. As my friend stated.. mastery over the elements.. cause I shoulda been dead.. now as i flew over the bonnet, I blacked out. The last thing goin through my mind was well, twas nice seein y'all.. I knew what happened, and in the words of my mate, mastery over time. This was nothing to do with the devil. This was God's will pure and simple, if anything.

God is merciful.

Formally denying Jesus as Savior is different than denying Him by simply not knowing about Him. Perhaps God has a good plan for you. Saint Paul was a denier of Jesus. Yet, when he confronted Jesus on the road to Damascus, he changed his ways. So, have you simply received mercy? Or have you been confronted by Jesus, but are still, at least, downplaying Him, if not outrightly denying Him.

[BADecker]

And it seems that you aren't knowledgeable enough to recognize the salvation that Jesus offers.

Jesus the Christ NEVER established a church on earth, and he did not EVER ONCE suggest he was your SAVIOR.

There are no “saviors” to save anything or more specifically anyone! If there is going to be any “saving” going on--you will do it for yourself.

You will EARN your way into God's Grace by standing responsible for self and obeying THE LAWS OF GOD/CREATION.

Only one problem with this idea. Even if you can be perfect from this point on, you have made mistakes in the past. Those mistakes are, at best, time lost. There's no way anyone can be perfect in the sight of God. Jesus was. God even testified to it.

[Decksperiment]

And it seems that you aren't knowledgeable enough to recognize the salvation that Jesus offers.

Jesus the Christ NEVER established a church on earth, and he did not EVER ONCE suggest he was your SAVIOR.

There are no “saviors” to save anything or more specifically anyone! If there is going to be any “saving” going on--you will do it for yourself.

You will EARN your way into God's Grace by standing responsible for self and obeying THE LAWS OF GOD/CREATION.

Only one problem with this idea. Even if you can be perfect from this point on, you have made mistakes in the past. Those mistakes are, at best, time lost. There's no way anyone can be perfect in the sight of God. Jesus was. God even testified to it.

Read your last 3 sentences again