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April 19, 2021, 10:58:00 PM
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Guess they ran out of weak hands to shake out?

Price is way to volatile to bother with it Tongue  It changes 5% every half hour. Deep pockets are now trading Monero.


https://txstreet.com/v/xmr

Originally when there was idea for txstreet to add Monero I thought is silly since Monero blocks are never full, but now I see is educational and fun. 

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April 19, 2021, 11:31:38 PM
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Guess they ran out of weak hands to shake out?

Price is way to volatile to bother with it Tongue  It changes 5% every half hour. Deep pockets are now trading Monero.


https://txstreet.com/v/xmr

Originally when there was idea for txstreet to add Monero I thought is silly since Monero blocks are never full, but now I see is educational and fun. 



I LOVE this site and can't believe it's my first time seeing this.  What a shit show btc is right now... hahaha
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April 20, 2021, 12:48:46 PM
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Guess they ran out of weak hands to shake out?

More like those people who bought BTC thought they bought something like XMR...  And lo and behold, they discovered that such a thing as XMR exists.

XMR to 5k or how much it takes to bring it to top 5 at CMC.

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$400 breached!

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April 20, 2021, 05:30:10 PM
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Starting to build a margin position here. From 0.0035 to 0.007 is 2x your BTC. It's inconceivable that this won't happen, and it will likely happen in Q1. Even if we only recover to 0.0053 that's 50% return. XMR has been going down almost consecutively since mid December with no recovery in sight. There's no fundamental reason that I can see for this complete wreckage. We're back to 2016 levels. Before the alphabay pump when XMR struggled to break out past 0.0042. Not that other altcoins are doing great, but for XMR this is the kind of blood in the street and full on capitulation that's perfect for entry. I can't think of any better purchase than monero at the moment. Not a big fan of margin, but just can't help it at these levels.

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So, who else bought the bottom? Wink

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April 20, 2021, 06:24:44 PM
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   Good to see $400 again!  When $4000?  transactions booming, mining moving right along, won't be long.  2020 sucked ass on so many fronts, 2021 can't help but be better  Cheesy
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April 20, 2021, 06:29:27 PM
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Starting to build a margin position here. From 0.0035 to 0.007 is 2x your BTC. It's inconceivable that this won't happen, and it will likely happen in Q1. Even if we only recover to 0.0053 that's 50% return. XMR has been going down almost consecutively since mid December with no recovery in sight. There's no fundamental reason that I can see for this complete wreckage. We're back to 2016 levels. Before the alphabay pump when XMR struggled to break out past 0.0042. Not that other altcoins are doing great, but for XMR this is the kind of blood in the street and full on capitulation that's perfect for entry. I can't think of any better purchase than monero at the moment. Not a big fan of margin, but just can't help it at these levels.

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So, who else bought the bottom? Wink

Well i got most of mine at ~$4.  I didn't enter much when it went to $0.25.  Always regretted that.

Oh you mean Jan '21?  maybe a little.  I actually dipped my toe in a little back when i had the earthquake feeling on 4/9.  Certainly not the BOTTOM, but still not bad.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=753252.msg56750042#msg56750042

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April 20, 2021, 06:37:18 PM
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Starting to build a margin position here. From 0.0035 to 0.007 is 2x your BTC. It's inconceivable that this won't happen, and it will likely happen in Q1. Even if we only recover to 0.0053 that's 50% return. XMR has been going down almost consecutively since mid December with no recovery in sight. There's no fundamental reason that I can see for this complete wreckage. We're back to 2016 levels. Before the alphabay pump when XMR struggled to break out past 0.0042. Not that other altcoins are doing great, but for XMR this is the kind of blood in the street and full on capitulation that's perfect for entry. I can't think of any better purchase than monero at the moment. Not a big fan of margin, but just can't help it at these levels.

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So, who else bought the bottom? Wink

I still remember buying the Top!

.03, fuck what was I thinking! Cheesy

In retrospect I must have been FOMO.

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April 20, 2021, 06:47:30 PM
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By the way...  most of us here are battle hardened enough to have lived through LOTS of those:

--Monero is pumping!
--Monero has completely retraced!
Then sometimes: (--Monero is now even LOSING more value.)
Scenarios.

But I feel like (and that's all i got... feel) this one might not be the same.  Not that we will not get retraces, of course we will... probably one here soon.  But I think we might be entering a new era price wise.

The extent to which I think people are waking up to Monero's use case is still under the surface, but it is becomming harder and harder to ignore for most folks.  In fact I personally expect, though they may not want to admit it, there may be some fairly hardened maximalists hedging a little in XMR as we move forward.

As to XMR:BTC vs. XMR:USD?  I know the latter will be a magnified version of the former.  And as long as this is not the Bitcoin top for this cycle, which I think it is not, then the question is simply how much of the former are we going to get.

Recently, most of monero's movement has been keeping SOME amount of stability in USD.  So it wants to be $80, and as BTC rises XMR:BTC drops so we hold ~80.  That kind of thing.

I do not see us in that realm as much now.  The pressure in this cauldron is building.  Monero does not only offer an extraordinary privacy, but it's adjustable block size as well as RandomX position it to be in a very unique spot during the remainder of this BTC epoch.

By the way, I am also of the mind that this BTC epoch stands a VERY strong chance of being significantly different than the last ones...  but that's another story.
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April 20, 2021, 06:50:51 PM
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I kinda can't wait to see the bus get a little bigger... wonder when that will happen?

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By the way, I am also of the mind that this BTC epoch stands a VERY strong chance of being significantly different than the last ones...  but that's another story.

Actually, I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts about that sometime too.
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By the way, I am also of the mind that this BTC epoch stands a VERY strong chance of being significantly different than the last ones...  but that's another story.

Actually, I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts about that sometime too.

Well most of my thoughts are more feel than science, as usual... but that's also just me.  But I think this is Monero related enough to yammer in here a little about it.

I think I am sort of in the camp that this might be Bitcoin's "supercycle".  I do not like that nomenclature a lot because it is very binary.  But what I think is there are MULTIPLE reasons that this 'halving epoch' is not likely to be an echo of the previous three (2011, 2014, 2017).

1.  We have a SIGNIFICANT difference in the buyer so far in this cycle.  As far as I can tell the vast majority (volume) of purchases are being made at the OTC desks by large $$ buyers.  On the small end we are talking "family offices", and the big end goes as far as Central Banks but includes Commercial Banks/Institutions (fidelity) Corporate Treasuries (MSTR, TSLA, etc etc) and prime time whales.  Retail is STILL barely getting on board in my opinion.

2.  Infrastructure is WAY different this time.  We have Bitcoin being integrated into things like Square/CashApp, Paypal etc.  The lightning network is gaining MORE and MORE traction in spite of it's (even worse than good old monero) UX.  Strike is a ridiculous game changer, and a real sleeper, because what it will do is incentivize retail to integrate lightning.  Liquid is another underappreciated diamond in the rough.  And the fact is all of this infrastructure has been built has the capacity to start providing liquidity outflows from the base layer.  These are ways to transact with BTC that do not require the base layer.

3.  BTC based financial products are in their toddler years now.  The BTC derivatives market is FAR more mature than past bulls.  This will dampen volatility as well as possibly give folks more ways to manipulate the market.  This one has a sort of surprise train wreck waiting in the wings though.  It will be a magnificent explosion when the first big money actor goes down in flames when they end up getting a run on their rehypothicated BTC product.  Unlike previous forms of "money" there is no release valve for this kind of shenanigans.  There are no bail outs.  The GME thing was a warm up prelude for this.  It might hurst the BTC price when it happens, in fact it COULD invalidate this whole supercycle theory, as it could force a >50% bear.  But in the end it will make people understand that you cannot fuck with the honey badger.  Also, ETFs are really almost here now.

4.  EVERYONE.  And, I mean nearly EVERYONE is CURRENTLY pontificating on how BTC is going to 500k-3mm and then will do it's 80% retrace to teach the noobs.  I have been watching market patters for decades.  I am no expert.  But it NEVER works this way.  it invalidates "Max Pain".  And I think 2017 was really a bonus cycle.  We should already have learned our lesson.  It is rare that markets will just do the same pattern over and over, because once it is an established pattern the smart folks exploit it, and it becomes a sel UNfullfilling prophecy.  Eventually trying to frontrun the pattern invalidates it.  We are overdue.

5.  There is no situation in which the bitcoin price takes such a big hit without huge buyers moving in to take advantage of it at this point.  Enough smart people have realized that "in hindsight it is inevitable".  So it can;t really drop without recovering.

This bull so far is bearing out my theory.  It is too early to declare victory, but I expect Saylor might be sort of right, that it's going up forever Laura.  I think it is more likely we crash NOW than do another 6 months of parabolic bull and have the traditional 80% retrace.

To keep it on topic... the influx of thinking money into Bitcoin is just BOUND to funnel at least hedges into Monero.  ALT friendly folks like Raoul Pal will figure it out.  And even hypermaxis like Matt Odell will also eventually break down.

So... in conclusion.  I think there is a SIGNIFICANT chance we see a much dampened dip this time, and possibly a little less parabola, but just a steady UP UP UP of bitcoin, and that trickles down to Monero.  Or even no dip, and still some parabolic action...  I also think it's an outside chance, but I think Monero has a SERIOUS chance with all the infrastructure upgrades to take it's place back in the top 10, if not higher... when?  Not sure.  I think other members of this thread are much better at those details.
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April 20, 2021, 08:07:50 PM
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Wow!  The bus stop is ALREADY kinda looking busy!  Does this actually mean anything?  Slow blocks maybe?
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April 20, 2021, 10:44:50 PM
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Wow!  The bus stop is ALREADY kinda looking busy!  Does this actually mean anything?  Slow blocks maybe?


Since our block time is x4 faster and we have dynamic blocks, did you notice the median costs per transaction spike?? Just curious.

But yeah, people are starting to wake up to Monero... and a lot of people are probably smacking their heads that they didn’t buy the lows like Kozi was suggesting Smiley
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April 21, 2021, 12:21:21 AM
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Wow!  The bus stop is ALREADY kinda looking busy!  Does this actually mean anything?  Slow blocks maybe?


Sometimes just takes a bit more between two blocks. It can take even 6 minutes and then can be few blocks one after another. But today Monero will reach new transactions ATH, so blockchain was never so busy as it is right now. Hopefully for first time over 30k transactions in a day.  


I kinda can't wait to see the bus get a little bigger... wonder when that will happen?

This is tricky to answer since everything can be changed when triptych happen at next hard fork. We will have to wait some more time before all will be decided and cast predictions while considering actual numbers. I dont believe Monero could have such growth of transactions to get blocks full before the protocol upgrade will happen.
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April 21, 2021, 01:45:31 PM
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If only the Esperanto word for coin was Moonero.

That is what I am starting to call it now, though.

God I hope this is not just another XMR tease!  Gentlemen we have waited here long enough.  Seeing no one pay attention to one of the only crypto asset projects that has a chance to be important while things like Polkadot and LINK supplant it in the top 10.  I mean XRP is STILL #4!  None of this makes any sense.  Made fun of by the maxis, but we have all held strong.  We are a little band of survivors. 

I hope I am not jinxing it, but this could be our time!  The activity looks healthy.  One thing I have seen on temporary rises in the past is paltry volume.  This move smells organic/real to me.
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April 21, 2021, 02:46:58 PM
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Getting back above 007 is a big deal, it's a complete recovery of the Bittrex lows.   I think it's looking good for at least the rest of this month. 
Then (looking at historical trends) even if it settles back we should see one more early autumn pump.  BTC will of course dictate again for a while this autumn, with hopefully another run as the BTC pump settles back in spring '22.   
Just my gut feeling after seven years of close Monero watching.  The main thing is that it seems certain that Monero is - and will remain - a contender.  Top 20 MC is in plain sight.  Let's see Monero back where it belongs.

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April 21, 2021, 03:24:50 PM
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Well... and not to be a bucket of cold water, but the RSI is way overheated on pretty much ALL the long term time frames (6hr - 3d) with only the weekly (and up) having some room to run.

This is the 12h chart.  I think it's not impossible to see more UP, but i think a correction from here is more likley...  and we could even see a neeto C&H here if it does something like this:



I think my biggest question is what is driving this rally?  We are seeing some fairly good volume on this run, and it is counter, or ahead of almost all other alts.

It feels like there is some fairly big buying going on...  I do not assume a big sale went on at WHM? Wink  It is hard to see what REAL volume is doing with all the goofy wash trading at the shady casinos exchanges.

Who is buying?
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April 21, 2021, 03:44:20 PM
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Any chance of XMR to catch up with ETH (in terms of price) this year? ETH have the smart contracts, but XMR have the privacy. It should be on top 10.

Also, check Haveno: https://github.com/haveno-dex/haveno
It is a exchange based on BISQ, which is being developed for Monero.
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