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February 28, 2016, 03:49:39 AM
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hey why nvidia is trash on ethereum? nothing can be done? also it appear that the best amd is 280x and not the last card generation(fury etc...)

this is NEVER a static thing ... block hits are NOT exact and NEVER expected ...

its a lottery draw - no matter which way you look at it ... you are never guaranteed a block ...

so you should never calculate based on 'guaranteed' block hits ... ever ...

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so that estimate on supernova is fucked up?

No it's not. The bigger the pool, the closer to estimated income you'll get, since you'll find blocks more often. You can look at this under the 'blocks' tab and then look at the %. If it's above 100% then the pool has been having problems finding blocks and you'll receive a reduced income, if it's below 100 you'll receive more then the estimate.

As with most stats, the more data points you have, the closer it'll reflect estimates and the more accurate estimates will be. This is why people generally all mine on bigger pools, it's more static income and less random 'luck'. Faster block times can also help with this sort of thing... But there are problems with doing that.

Generally speaking look for a pool with a 24hr luck that is around 100%. If it's 20% higher or lower then that, it's generally not worth mining on. I personally don't mine on pools with less then 5% of the network hashrate as well as the RNG is way too high (although that depends on block time for the coin).

This is putting aside that pools seem to have been having problems with stratum support. It seems like the stratums are screwed up compared to using normal getwork without stratum. I've found normal getwork works better for this coin. Your hashrate usually does not fluctuate at all.

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February 28, 2016, 07:45:45 AM
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hey why nvidia is trash on ethereum? nothing can be done? also it appear that the best amd is 280x and not the last card generation(fury etc...)

this is NEVER a static thing ... block hits are NOT exact and NEVER expected ...

its a lottery draw - no matter which way you look at it ... you are never guaranteed a block ...

so you should never calculate based on 'guaranteed' block hits ... ever ...

#crysx

so that estimate on supernova is fucked up?

No it's not. The bigger the pool, the closer to estimated income you'll get, since you'll find blocks more often. You can look at this under the 'blocks' tab and then look at the %. If it's above 100% then the pool has been having problems finding blocks and you'll receive a reduced income, if it's below 100 you'll receive more then the estimate.

As with most stats, the more data points you have, the closer it'll reflect estimates and the more accurate estimates will be. This is why people generally all mine on bigger pools, it's more static income and less random 'luck'. Faster block times can also help with this sort of thing... But there are problems with doing that.

Generally speaking look for a pool with a 24hr luck that is around 100%. If it's 20% higher or lower then that, it's generally not worth mining on. I personally don't mine on pools with less then 5% of the network hashrate as well as the RNG is way too high (although that depends on block time for the coin).

This is putting aside that pools seem to have been having problems with stratum support. It seems like the stratums are screwed up compared to using normal getwork without stratum. I've found normal getwork works better for this coin. Your hashrate usually does not fluctuate at all.

good explanation, it make sense now supernova is sitting on 110%, so i'm losing 10% i guess and the other small pool has 5% of the hash, so it's not worthit to mine there, in fact m earning was even worse
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February 28, 2016, 03:41:31 PM
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One thing came to my mind, if you have set really low auto payout treshold then relatively high tx fees eat 4 x 0.05= 0.2 DCR from your daily earnings.

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February 28, 2016, 03:52:15 PM
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Yes it was the main reason for the 5%.

I still need to compute them Wink

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February 28, 2016, 06:07:19 PM
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Yes it was the main reason for the 5%.

I still need to compute them Wink

To be honest I thought 5% doesn't include tx fee  Smiley

BTW, what is the real minimum payout? Lowest I have been payed so far is 0.81 DCR  Smiley

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February 28, 2016, 06:29:28 PM
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all is explained on the main page... and now, sunday evening, its the minimum allowed by the wallet without "dust" error : 0.025

currently building a 1.7.4 (too much mess with the different 1.7.3) Wink

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February 28, 2016, 08:25:50 PM
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seems there is a big issue with tx fees on this wallet... i may have to restart soon to upgrade to the v0.0.5

i get amounts like 1.5 DCR of tx fees for a 18 DCR payout (sent to a different address each time)

[2016-02-28 06:43:43] paying 54.29900701 DCR
[2016-02-28 10:46:07] paying 35.79586724 DCR
[2016-02-28 12:48:28] paying 17.96769547 DCR
[2016-02-28 14:49:48] paying 36.33132658 DCR
[2016-02-28 16:53:48] paying 36.13312009 DCR
[2016-02-28 20:58:24] paying 18.01496387 DCR

last two txs are :
https://mainnet.decred.org/tx/a6322c3353a9d824ee968fe1050af9189e99548135c00a2936b634cb3d944c7a

https://mainnet.decred.org/tx/2817981d574fd871e71cdfc3023abb59e6c9fd8cc28e2af8c1b8df675affe76c
or http://yiimp.ccminer.org/explorer?id=1574&txid=2817981d574fd871e71cdfc3023abb59e6c9fd8cc28e2af8c1b8df675affe76c (to see the total input)

Dsm2c5Ya7YVh6nDJp4jkp98QW78Jgt4joww (1.43267535) seems to be a tx fee (not a miner)

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February 28, 2016, 10:56:32 PM
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Are we able to use amd cards on the pool too?  I am thinking about pointing my 7GH to your pool.
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February 28, 2016, 11:27:52 PM
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Hmm sorry not for the moment, no public cgminer/sgminer yet, that might change in a near future.

Ok.. this fees problems and the wallet upgrade/test has delayed a bit my ccminer 1.7.4 also...

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February 29, 2016, 02:52:36 AM
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One thing came to my mind, if you have set really low auto payout treshold then relatively high tx fees eat 4 x 0.05= 0.2 DCR from your daily earnings.



Yup, I have mine set to payout about once per day since the transmission fees are so high.

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March 01, 2016, 04:52:01 AM
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After looking around at MN and Suprnova and trying a few different things, it definitely seemps like Yiimp is the best. Normal getwork seems to result in a ton of duplicate shares and occasionally I get 'nethash error' or something like that, basically a 20% loss in efficiency on both of those pools. Stratum seems to work right on Suprnova, but it doesn't report the right hashrate and the income as such is quite low (about 30% less then it should be). On MN pool they changed something yesterday and now after a few submits the stratum difficulty always goes to 320, which is too high for almost all miners and results in really sporadic submits and the hashrate/income also suffers again, about by 30%.

Yiimp is showing my correct hashrate, not sure about correct income though as we'll see over one-two days. It does suck Yiimp doesn't have as many stats as normal mining pools though. Seeing pool luck and efficiency are pretty basic stuff you need to see.

Curiously why is pool fees so high? If the pool pays TX fees, just have it payout like every 12 or 24hr. 2hrs is way too high, I'll probably lose like 5% per 2hr just for that if I'm paying TX fees.

Please change the payout rate for Decred to something more appropriate.


I still have yet to try maxminers and coinpool, but so far yiimp looks alright, but we'll see.

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March 01, 2016, 11:08:04 AM
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what were your last amount received ? i mean, unlike mpos, the tx fees should not be taken from the miner balance (but in theory it should be a percent of the total tx fees, i need to double check how to do that)

A tx sent by yiimp includes many payouts... so the tx fees are not exactly the paytxfee/KB... one KB can be 5 payouts

else 2H is fine, that force the users to use a real wallet instead of directly mine and dump to an exchange

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March 01, 2016, 07:56:54 PM
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I would add that I also would prefer a 6h or even daily payout cycle. I don't think that anyone needs their coins so badly that they can't wait for a day tops to get their dumplings  Grin

On the fees: I was one of the 1st users on the pool (actually, 1st user along with Epsy?). I very specifically requested a high fee to be set when Epsy was just getting the pool started. The rationale is that I mine at Yiimp because it is a very convenient vehicle to supporting the developer behind it, and as far as I recall, Epsy had no intentions of running a pool for the masses, since that also carries a bit more responsibility, more babysitting, etc.
It does happen that the masses have shown up, so there's that...  Roll Eyes

Still, and just thinking from a practical standpoint: With Yiimp showing above average efficiency, even with above average fees, looks to be that the end result is better payouts for the miners. Maybe a rare win-win situation?  Wink

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March 02, 2016, 04:09:02 AM
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Guessing it was because the pool wasn't finding blocks, but moved off the pool due to low payouts. Looking at the block find rate and comparing it to other pools such as Maxminers and coinmine, which have roughly the same hashrate, yiimp should be finding about 30% more blocks then it currently is over the last 48 to 72 hours. Not sure what that means, but definitely effects payouts.

Anyway, reduced Decred payouts, I'm moving back to Ethereum.

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March 02, 2016, 04:46:20 AM
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else 2H is fine, that force the users to use a real wallet instead of directly mine and dump to an exchange

What makes you say that? I don't think that's true anymore.

I also think the payout frequency should be much lower. Decred's confirmation period is very long anyway.
Having tons of small payouts to a real wallet is a pain too.
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March 02, 2016, 05:01:58 AM
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but yiimp is not for DCR only....

i delayed to 3h ... should not change a lot :p ...

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March 04, 2016, 05:40:21 PM
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i want to ask, is this version efficient like this from sp https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=826901.0 ?
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March 04, 2016, 05:43:30 PM
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i want to ask, is this version efficient like this from sp https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=826901.0 ?

Generally speaking, this version right here is considered by some (such as myself) to be the most efficient. SP_'s versions are a wee bit faster for some algorithms, but end up producing more invalid hashes or rejects, which then results in overall worse returns.

SP does have some private versions for sale, I think there's multiple posts about it in just about every page on the linked thread. Those might be worth it if you're into that sort of thing, and if you have enough hash power to really make up for the expense...

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March 04, 2016, 06:04:07 PM
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My version is faster but have some issues in solomining. If you mine on a pool you get 10-15% more coins with 1.5.74 / 1.5.78 in most algos. My private is up to 10% faster than the public(quark,lyra2v2).

I submit stale shares as default. If you have a slow connection you might get rejects. But my private farm is at 99.5% accepted.The nicehashminer is using my version 1.5.74 on maxwell cards because it is the fastest.

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March 04, 2016, 06:49:21 PM
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My version is faster but have some issues in solomining. If you mine on a pool you get 10-15% more coins with 1.5.74 / 1.5.78 in most algos. My private is up to 10% faster than the public(quark,lyra2v2).

I submit stale shares as default. If you have a slow connection you might get rejects. But my private farm is at 99.5% accepted.The nicehashminer is using my version 1.5.74 on maxwell cards because it is the fastest.
and _sp is the most modest dev

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