Why do people hate islam?

[Spendulus]

Hate Islam, not Muslims. But if Muslims become Islam, take them down along with Islam.

good ways to sensationalize your bullshit decker, but i dont see a point to hate anyone other than you dont like them and that all your followers should hate all those whom you hate.
dosent matters if they have ever dealt with them personally, but your logic doesn't finds it important ,isin't it ?

Rock in the road.

Never hate a Muslim.

Most Muslims aren't Islam - they only think that they are Islamic.

Hate Islam; take it down.

If a Muslim forces himself in the way by becoming Islamic, take him down. But don't hate him.

If violnece is your soal reason for the hate then shouldn't you be hating all the wild animals ?
it is really childish to hate anyone when you dont know why you hate them .

This is true, at least somewhat.

Don't hate Muslims. Hate Islam. Generally Muslims aren't Islam. Islam is the teaching written in the Quran and Hadiths. Few Muslims (percentagewise) really know what it says in the Islamic writings.

i cant understand what this means. the people who follow islam are known as muslims. if not for islam there wont be muslims  , so what are u trying to tell here.

It's a whole bunch of double talk, doubleplusungood, and politically correct shit being fed to you as steak.

Do you really want us to hate the people rather than the religion? Or do you think that it is impossible to hate the religion without hating the people?

I don't see anything to hate in Islam, or in Muslims.  It may be necessary to kill some Isis Muslims because they are our enemies, and because they are evil.  But hate isn't in that calculus.  There's much to be pitied, much to be puzzled by, and a lot to do to bring a large part of the world's population into the 21st century.

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[BCEmporium]

So you don't hate Islam however think it needs to kill some ISIS members because they're "evil"... by following Islam to the letter?! 
And don't mistake Islam for anything you know, the Quran is composed by direct commands, not by stories or metaphors open to any interpretation.

I believe one entry in the hadith sums it up:

Allah's Apostle said, "The Jews and the Christians do not dye (their grey hair), so you shall do the opposite of what they do (i.e. dye your grey hair and beards)."

That's what Islam is by design; "do the opposite of what they (other religions) do", and from there comes the issue westerns have to understand it.

[BADecker]

So you don't hate Islam however think it needs to kill some ISIS members because they're "evil"... by following Islam to the letter?! 
And don't mistake Islam for anything you know, the Quran is composed by direct commands, not by stories or metaphors open to any interpretation.

I believe one entry in the hadith sums it up:

Allah's Apostle said, "The Jews and the Christians do not dye (their grey hair), so you shall do the opposite of what they do (i.e. dye your grey hair and beards)."

That's what Islam is by design; "do the opposite of what they (other religions) do", and from there comes the issue westerns have to understand it.

Do the opposite? Other people and religions are generally peaceful, and Muslims are supposed to do the opposite? Now I get it! Poor Muslims... a people who can't be peaceful like they want, and follow the directives of their own religion at the same time. Poor Muslims... some of the most pathetic people in the world. Destroy Islam and free the Muslims thereby.

[BCEmporium]

Sorry to disappoint you, but no religion, or ideology, is "peaceful". This roots out from the fact that, despite we keep listening to it, nobody wants "peace in the world", because under such we would become meaningless dewellers crushed under the unbearable weight of the purpose of our existence. To seek purpose we came up with that "world peace" thing, which most understand as "there will be peace if they obey me".

However some ideologies and methods can cause too much havoc out of our seek for conflicts. And whatever worked for Christians will cause the opposite effect if applied to Islam; illiterate Christians are more violent so literacy (education) may calm them down... but not for Islam! Illiterate Muslims are way more peaceful than educated ones. This comes from the set example, the foundation rock; Xtians are told to take Jesus as a perfect example, so if they actually know what Jesus did they will become more peaceful, Islam does the same but with Muhammad and this last one was anything but peace.
Same goes to Democracy; works with other religions, because they're "just it", causes havoc at Islam because Islam is itself a political system and a totalitarian one, unwilling to share its space with anything.

[nichu]

So you don't hate Islam however think it needs to kill some ISIS members because they're "evil"... by following Islam to the letter?! 
And don't mistake Islam for anything you know, the Quran is composed by direct commands, not by stories or metaphors open to any interpretation.

I believe one entry in the hadith sums it up:

Allah's Apostle said, "The Jews and the Christians do not dye (their grey hair), so you shall do the opposite of what they do (i.e. dye your grey hair and beards)."

That's what Islam is by design; "do the opposite of what they (other religions) do", and from there comes the issue westerns have to understand it.

Do the opposite? Other people and religions are generally peaceful, and Muslims are supposed to do the opposite? Now I get it! Poor Muslims... a people who can't be peaceful like they want, and follow the directives of their own religion at the same time. Poor Muslims... some of the most pathetic people in the world. Destroy Islam and free the Muslims thereby.

all the twist and turn comes from the Hadith, Quran like every religion preaches good things ,but the hardcore stuffs or the extreme elements of the religion does not follow quran, back then when they wanted to change some things they would add some things by the clergy they would add those in hadith and convince the followers that its being said by god. Different brances of Islam does have different hadith quotes according to their convenience. so what i have to tell to the extreme elements is that don't mix religion with weird thoughts  

[BCEmporium]

The Hadith are a complement to Islam, they are a sort of the perfect muslim biography.
Still you don't need to resource it if you seek violence, the Quran has enough of violent orders to follow.

[BADecker]

So you don't hate Islam however think it needs to kill some ISIS members because they're "evil"... by following Islam to the letter?! 
And don't mistake Islam for anything you know, the Quran is composed by direct commands, not by stories or metaphors open to any interpretation.

I believe one entry in the hadith sums it up:

Allah's Apostle said, "The Jews and the Christians do not dye (their grey hair), so you shall do the opposite of what they do (i.e. dye your grey hair and beards)."

That's what Islam is by design; "do the opposite of what they (other religions) do", and from there comes the issue westerns have to understand it.

Do the opposite? Other people and religions are generally peaceful, and Muslims are supposed to do the opposite? Now I get it! Poor Muslims... a people who can't be peaceful like they want, and follow the directives of their own religion at the same time. Poor Muslims... some of the most pathetic people in the world. Destroy Islam and free the Muslims thereby.

all the twist and turn comes from the Hadith, Quran like every religion preaches good things ,but the hardcore stuffs or the extreme elements of the religion does not follow quran, back then when they wanted to change some things they would add some things by the clergy they would add those in hadith and convince the followers that its being said by god. Different brances of Islam does have different hadith quotes according to their convenience. so what i have to tell to the extreme elements is that don't mix religion with weird thoughts  

What you have just said is, we don't need the Quran. Get rid of it and follow the Hadiths. And if you don't like the Hadiths that are in operation now, change them, right? Make some new ones. Twist Islam all around to make it better than ever, right?

You are an extreme element with weird thoughts.

[BADecker]

Quran preaches for Muslims to do violence. Look back in this post for the info. Or look here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=888757.msg10381547#msg10381547.

[Spendulus]

So you don't hate Islam however think it needs to kill some ISIS members because they're "evil"... by following Islam to the letter?! 
And don't mistake Islam for anything you know, the Quran is composed by direct commands, not by stories or metaphors open to any interpretation.

I believe one entry in the hadith sums it up:

Allah's Apostle said, "The Jews and the Christians do not dye (their grey hair), so you shall do the opposite of what they do (i.e. dye your grey hair and beards)."

That's what Islam is by design; "do the opposite of what they (other religions) do", and from there comes the issue westerns have to understand it.

But you describe, essentially "tribal behavior."

I was just being honest as to what I "hate."  Not even saying that my attitude is "right," by the way. 

We don't have any disagreement as to facts.  At least a dozen times I have heard Muslims argue that "Islam is perfect," but "men, practicing Muslims, were imperfect."  Other times they have argued that "Islamic Terrorists" were neither Islamic nor Muslim.  These seem to be straightforward logical fallacies and cases of such as psychological denial. 

As an atheist it means zero to me to attempt to prove something by quoting chapter and verse of an old book.  I am persuadable by logic, and by facts.  Kind of boring, actually, lol...

[Spendulus]

So you don't hate Islam however think it needs to kill some ISIS members because they're "evil"... by following Islam to the letter?! 
And don't mistake Islam for anything you know, the Quran is composed by direct commands, not by stories or metaphors open to any interpretation.

I believe one entry in the hadith sums it up:

Allah's Apostle said, "The Jews and the Christians do not dye (their grey hair), so you shall do the opposite of what they do (i.e. dye your grey hair and beards)."

That's what Islam is by design; "do the opposite of what they (other religions) do", and from there comes the issue westerns have to understand it.

Do the opposite? Other people and religions are generally peaceful, and Muslims are supposed to do the opposite? Now I get it! Poor Muslims... a people who can't be peaceful like they want, and follow the directives of their own religion at the same time. Poor Muslims... some of the most pathetic people in the world. Destroy Islam and free the Muslims thereby.

all the twist and turn comes from the Hadith, Quran like every religion preaches good things ,but the hardcore stuffs or the extreme elements of the religion does not follow quran, back then when they wanted to change some things they would add some things by the clergy they would add those in hadith and convince the followers that its being said by god. Different brances of Islam does have different hadith quotes according to their convenience. so what i have to tell to the extreme elements is that don't mix religion with weird thoughts  

I agree and disagree both in part.

Radical Islam has it's roots in writings such as those of Sayyad Qutb, who write his own commentaries and booklets on "interpreting the Quran and Hadith."  Viewed through a filter such as that of Qutb, the primary documents become advocacy of pure evil. 

My statement above is likely one that both Westerners and followers of Islam could agree on...

[BCEmporium]

As an atheist too I couldn't care less of what books wrote by people who think Earth is flat say, but I acknowledge their influence in some nowadays human behavior.

[Lauda]

As an atheist too I couldn't care less of what books wrote by people who think Earth is flat wrote, but I acknowledge their influence in some nowadays human behavior.

That's quite a healthy and rare stance. It does influence the lives of billions of people. I don't mind religions at all unless certain people try forcing their beliefs on me.

[Balthazar]

As an atheist too I couldn't care less of what books wrote by people who think Earth is flat wrote, but I acknowledge their influence in some nowadays human behavior.

That's quite a healthy and rare stance. It does influence the lives of billions of people. I don't mind religions at all unless certain people try forcing their beliefs on me.

That's the main issue here.

[Spendulus]

As an atheist too I couldn't care less of what books wrote by people who think Earth is flat wrote, but I acknowledge their influence in some nowadays human behavior.

That's quite a healthy and rare stance. It does influence the lives of billions of people. I don't mind religions at all unless certain people try forcing their beliefs on me.

That's the main issue here.

Makes sense to me.  I'll still hold they have the right to say anything they want, and to hold any beliefs they wish.  But that works two ways.  It means there is also a right to draw cartoons of Mohammed, to say things against Islam, so forth and so on.

Apparently there are quite a few people with a medieval mindset who don't get it.  But they don't want to stay in the countries that are total shitholes because most of the other people there believe similar stuff and it retards all progress.

Well duh....

[BCEmporium]

Don't get me wrong there, there's plenty of stuff from Islam I don't mind. I don't care what they believe, if they eat pork or not, if they drink or not, if they pray ass up or upside down in a pool, and so on...
My only issue with it is the violent, misogynistic, compulsory and predatory behavior coming out from their "instructions manual". And I don't apply this rule to Islam alone, any other with similar behavior I will give it the very same treatment.

[BADecker]

As an atheist too I couldn't care less of what books wrote by people who think Earth is flat wrote, but I acknowledge their influence in some nowadays human behavior.

That's quite a healthy and rare stance. It does influence the lives of billions of people. I don't mind religions at all unless certain people try forcing their beliefs on me.

That's the main issue here.

Makes sense to me.  I'll still hold they have the right to say anything they want, and to hold any beliefs they wish.  But that works two ways.  It means there is also a right to draw cartoons of Mohammed, to say things against Islam, so forth and so on.

Apparently there are quite a few people with a medieval mindset who don't get it.  But they don't want to stay in the countries that are total shitholes because most of the other people there believe similar stuff and it retards all progress.

Well duh....

People in the west somehow became used to the statement, "Might makes right." I don't see how it can literally, necessarily be true.

Is it right for Muslim men to have such authority over their women that they can punish them in extreme ways for little or nothing?

It might be might. And Islam might suggest that it is right. But when you stand a man and a woman side by side, they are both people. As far as having the essential "I am" that makes people to be people, both are the same. Both feel pain. Both recognize ownership of property, even if that property is only their self.

"Right" would be for the man and the woman to be under the same set of laws regarding their "peopleness."

Islam makes all kinds of "might" rules and laws. But are they really right and just and fair to all people?

The women don't have the right to say anything that they want, even thought they might have the ability.

[Spendulus]

Don't get me wrong there, there's plenty of stuff from Islam I don't mind. I don't care what they believe, if they eat pork or not, if they drink or not, if they pray ass up or upside down in a pool, and so on...
My only issue with it is the violent, misogynistic, compulsory and predatory behavior coming out from their "instructions manual". And I don't apply this rule to Islam alone, any other with similar behavior I will give it the very same treatment.

Well for sure, there is a group of Muslims out there who sincerely wish to ram their version of Islam into your daily life, and kill you if you object.  Meanwhile all the other types of Muslims will stay quiet or go along.

[BCEmporium]

Not all nazis were up to kill jews too...
I don't give a F about what Muslims do, the problem is their ideology and no matter how many peaceful are there, as long as the ideology survives it's just a matter of time until some take more seriously its instruction manual.

[Lauda]

That's the main issue here.

Makes sense to me.  I'll still hold they have the right to say anything they want, and to hold any beliefs they wish.  But that works two ways.  It means there is also a right to draw cartoons of Mohammed, to say things against Islam, so forth and so on.

I definitely agree with this; this is hypocrisy. If they want me to allow them to say and do whatever they want in regards to their Religion then I should be able to do so as well. Just imagine the world if we didn't have people trying to push their nonsense (yes, fairy tales) on other people. Its quite hard to be an atheist in smaller places where everyone is (usually) a participant on a single religion.

[PrikiNo.1]

I am here to just say one thing? Why do YOU hate islam? and you should really give a valid reason not a shitty one that says 'Because media'
and Yes, I am a muslim for those who ask, just tell me, come out of your shell and say why you HATE it, and I could be here to clarify things to you.
Also here is something that most people mistake about islam is that "Islam hates other religions" for this I say, Islam does not hate ANY religion, but it suggests to 'invite' them to islam, as slowly, and peacefully, even if they refuse, you can try and try, until it's their choice, you stop. and for all the wars that happened, it's because the other religions decided to come into war on Islam.

If you need anything clarified, I am here to answer you, don't be scared, I won't be offended by anyone, also haters, you can reply, I won't care

I don't have nothing against the muslims, but all I know that their are little confused about many things and if they know the truth (the origin of the mankind), they will realize that they belong at christians...

Who wrote the Bible? Where Ismail is mention for the first time? Why Quran talking about something that is already mention in the Bible? Who is Mohamed?

The first and the oldest book that is ever written in this world is the Bible. The evidence of this book where founded in the area on ancient Mesopotamia. The stories in the Bible date to more then 450 millions years ago.
Ismail's father is Abraham, the same person who is mention in the Old Testament. He have a child with Sarah and he named Ismail.
In the Quran, the first book talking about the creation of the world, the same story that is mentioned in the Bible.
Mohamed was on of the prophets who is part of the Bible, but now is in the Quran.

Should I continue?