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March 21, 2017, 11:44:15 PM
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I do not agree to all islam teaches to its people. However i think that this is just normal because islam people doesnt agree as well to all my religious beliefs yet it can not be a right reason for me to hate them. Basically this is all just a repect to humanity and setting aside each diffrences with regards to religion and for me those people who hates them cannot show respect to others

So you ask yourself and us to give the Muslims the respect they do not give us?

So ask your self as well and us to give us the respect that we do not give to them? How ironic if you do not give the other people needs only if they give it to you first. You have to remember why would most of them became terrorist if you dont understand why it came from then you should know first before talking about respect

Nonsense.  I can talk about the lack of respect that Islam shows to non-believers, based on what is said in the Koran.

Please, no mindless lecturing or defensive posturing.

What is more nonsense is that even if i do not talk or lecture any proof that non muslims showing no respect to muslim community because it is pretty obvious. You can see it anyways unless your keeping your eyes closed on the other side of the story

Islam doesn't teach violence, Muslims condemn terrorit violence, only crazy people who profess himself to islam, this very sensitiv, because too many people doing the provocations are out there, by way of secretly even openly they do a provocation, it is all to make the battle between human beings, we all condemn the terrorists, Christian, hindu, Buddhist all condemn the terrorists, and islam also hate terrorists , even we do not hate islam, you have to think broadly, many Muslims are evil, many Christians are evil people, Buddhism and Hinduism also many people evil, islam has not only the bad guys. and all of us here taking part in this mess, do not let it continue to happen, at least not around we don't get there is chaos. I know a lot of people who hate islam, but they hate it wrong, not islam, but terrorists. i hpe it could open our heart... Cry Cry Cry

Absolutely, Islam never teaches crime, violence, inhumanity, Islam teaches us the things that are good and beautiful. If you look at people of Islam who do evil, blame the person, not religion. If there are people of Islam who do wrong, blame the personality, not religion. Islam is a complete religion, but there is no perfect man.
Absolutely, Islam never teaches crime, violence, 

We should TAX the Muslims only..
We should kill all the believers of Islam..

Absolutely, Atheism never teaches crime, violence,   ..
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the Quran [9:29] Allah says to take Jizya tax from non-Muslims. ... where Muhammad tells his followers to demand the jizya of non-believers. ... the people ofthe scriptures so that they either accepted Islam or paid thejizya tax ..


Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned ..... Infidels who resist Islamic rule are to be fought.
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March 22, 2017, 12:04:36 AM
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I dont hate Islam. The reason why many country hate it is because majority of terrorist group are Islam. But if you think about there are also terrorist that are not Islam and people dont hate their religion because there are only a few of them. I think its just the perspective. There also good people from Islam. I think its the media why they bad publicity because thay are always in the headlines of global attacks.
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March 22, 2017, 12:39:42 AM
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I dont hate Islam. The reason why many country hate it is because majority of terrorist group are Islam. But if you think about there are also terrorist that are not Islam and people dont hate their religion because there are only a few of them. I think its just the perspective. There also good people from Islam. I think its the media why they bad publicity because thay are always in the headlines of global attacks.
I dont hate Islam. The reason why many country hate it is because majority of terrorist group are Islam. Cheesy Cheesy..  ARE YOU STUPID?

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March 22, 2017, 01:26:15 AM
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Want to move to London here you go i hope you enjoy the stay ..
 Oh and the price of ACID as gone up in London .
So keep some extra cash    in case you need to buy some Wink  Well you might turn into one.

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March 22, 2017, 01:36:17 AM
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Because most representatives of the Muslim religion are prone to terrorism and violence. Although among them there are spiritually developed and kind people.

Most of muslim representatives in the middle eastern countries that are devastated by war or in countries where theocracy reins...
We have muslims in Serbia and I've never heard that there was any kind of crime, even less a terrorist attack, comited by them...
Shortly, war makes the worst of people.

That is a surprising statement. Because around 18 years ago, we were hearing about all sort of terrorist activities committed by the Muslims in the Serbian province of Kosovo. And Muslims of Kosovo are famous for their organized crime cartels.

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March 22, 2017, 02:57:21 AM
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I'm sure people who hate Islam is full of vengeance. They don't understand about Islam, we should know that Islam is very peace-loving and prohibits making a mess, hate and revenge.
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I'm sure people who hate Islam is full of vengeance. They don't understand about Islam, we should know that Islam is very peace-loving and prohibits making a mess, hate and revenge.

Really?  Read this and tell us that again please.

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-atheist-s-murder-case-three-suspects-surrender-in-tn-2361153

Farooq was murdered last Thursday in Coimbatore by Muslim youths for propagating atheism through social media and WhatsApp.

Farooq, who was a resident of Ukkadam, a Muslim-dominated area in Coimbatore, was reportedly murdered by a four-member gang and had deep cuts on his neck and abdomen.

One of the suspects, Saddam, who has criminal cases pending against him, is the brother-in-law of Bengaluru blast case accused Syed Mohamed Buhari alias Kitchan Buhari.
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An attack in LONDON Shocked..See i told you to stay away  Sad..

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I can only speak for myself though concerning the Muslims because I have friends who are Muslims and I dont hate them but come to think of it, recent happenings is making it difficult for people not to have a rethink even what is happening to day in UK a lot of lives will be lost, in Nigeria there is Boko-haram doing their, ISIS is doing their own all in the name of a religion. Its disheartening...
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Because most representatives of the Muslim religion are prone to terrorism and violence. Although among them there are spiritually developed and kind people.

Most of muslim representatives in the middle eastern countries that are devastated by war or in countries where theocracy reins...
We have muslims in Serbia and I've never heard that there was any kind of crime, even less a terrorist attack, comited by them...
Shortly, war makes the worst of people.

That is a surprising statement. Because around 18 years ago, we were hearing about all sort of terrorist activities committed by the Muslims in the Serbian province of Kosovo. And Muslims of Kosovo are famous for their organized crime cartels.

It just seems that time after time, these guys just plain make stuff up.
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I'm sure people who hate Islam is full of vengeance. They don't understand about Islam, we should know that Islam is very peace-loving and prohibits making a mess, hate and revenge.

Really?  Read this and tell us that again please.

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-atheist-s-murder-case-three-suspects-surrender-in-tn-2361153

Farooq was murdered last Thursday in Coimbatore by Muslim youths for propagating atheism through social media and WhatsApp.

Farooq, who was a resident of Ukkadam, a Muslim-dominated area in Coimbatore, was reportedly murdered by a four-member gang and had deep cuts on his neck and abdomen.

One of the suspects, Saddam, who has criminal cases pending against him, is the brother-in-law of Bengaluru blast case accused Syed Mohamed Buhari alias Kitchan Buhari.

Remember that this has happened in a country where just around 14% of the population is Muslim. If they can do this in a country where they are a small minority, then what will happen once they become the majority?

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i don't hate islam.
it's too conveniently simplistic to view islam as 'the problem'.

which is not to say it doesn't have its problematic aspects.
there's only one final prophet there, mohammed - full stop and end of story.

but the historical trajectory there is such that mohammed had to figure out a way to break the perpetual cycle of endemic warfare and find a way to unify many tribes around some broader meaningful order. he undrstood power very well and did a brilliant job far as that goes, in those times and places, but then - islam is also designed to appeal to the very poor (and thus also uneducated), that have in many cases lived in the mud for centuries, and those are always pretty tough neighborhoods so to speak.

funny enuough, the only 2 descendents of mohammed today are the king of marocco and jordan - both really cool, intelligent, modest, liberal (even somewhat nerdish) in secular (or slowly secularizing) countries.

and then let's not forget that the sunni and shia are fighting it between themselves like the catholics and protestants did back in the day (the 30 year war) - only in this case the stakes are higher and its not enclosed in fortress europe but is quite transcontinental and geopolitical in nature.

 
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i don't hate islam.
it's too conveniently simplistic to view islam as 'the problem'.

which is not to say it doesn't have its problematic aspects.
there's only one final prophet there, mohammed - full stop and end of story.

but the historical trajectory there is such that mohammed had to figure out a way to break the perpetual cycle of endemic warfare and find a way to unify many tribes around some broader meaningful order. he undrstood power very well and did a brilliant job far as that goes, in those times and places, but then - islam is also designed to appeal to the very poor (and thus also uneducated), that have in many cases lived in the mud for centuries, and those are always pretty tough neighborhoods so to speak.

funny enuough, the only 2 descendents of mohammed today are the king of marocco and jordan - both really cool, intelligent, modest, liberal (even somewhat nerdish) in secular (or slowly secularizing) countries.

and then let's not forget that the sunni and shia are fighting it between themselves like the catholics and protestants did back in the day (the 30 year war) - only in this case the stakes are higher and its not enclosed in fortress europe but is quite transcontinental and geopolitical in nature.

 

If the ideology causes otherwise sane people do horrible things, I blame the ideology.

Islamic terrorists are the victims of that ideology.

Stop pretending it is not true.  Nazism, Communism, or Racism are all wrong and are banned in most countries.

Now it is time to ban religion, Islam in particular.

Last prophet my ass.  He was a war monger, opportunist.  He needed a strong ideology to help him manage the ever expanding empire.

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i don't hate islam.
it's too conveniently simplistic to view islam as 'the problem'.

which is not to say it doesn't have its problematic aspects.
there's only one final prophet there, mohammed - full stop and end of story.

but the historical trajectory there is such that mohammed had to figure out a way to break the perpetual cycle of endemic warfare ....
He didn't, obviously.
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If the ideology causes otherwise sane people do horrible things, I blame the ideology.

Islamic terrorists are the victims of that ideology.

Stop pretending it is not true.  Nazism, Communism, or Racism are all wrong and are banned in most countries.

Now it is time to ban religion, Islam in particular.

Last prophet my ass.  He was a war monger, opportunist.  He needed a strong ideology to help him manage the ever expanding empire.


you might get a better understanding of what i am trying to relay if you stop thinking of things in terms of -isms and read up on some historiography and literature.

judgments and opinions don't really give any insight or understanding, but neither will i argue.
it's up to you what you decide to think, what statements to make and how much to educate yourself and in what departments.


i don't hate islam.
it's too conveniently simplistic to view islam as 'the problem'.

which is not to say it doesn't have its problematic aspects.
there's only one final prophet there, mohammed - full stop and end of story.

but the historical trajectory there is such that mohammed had to figure out a way to break the perpetual cycle of endemic warfare ....
He didn't, obviously.

how obviously?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historian%27s_fallacy

next thing you know it, you're gonna say cambodia brought it all upon themselves too.

its very convenient to point the finger at a single reason - islam, the jews, the bourgious, the rich, etc...
but that's not how things work, ever.

have you taken a look at the map lately?

what constitutes the 'muslim world'.

and im not implying islam is good or bad, i am saying that this is not the way to formulate it to begin with.
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If the ideology causes otherwise sane people do horrible things, I blame the ideology.

Islamic terrorists are the victims of that ideology.

Stop pretending it is not true.  Nazism, Communism, or Racism are all wrong and are banned in most countries.

Now it is time to ban religion, Islam in particular.

Last prophet my ass.  He was a war monger, opportunist.  He needed a strong ideology to help him manage the ever expanding empire.


you might get a better understanding of what i am trying to relay if you stop thinking of things in terms of -isms and read up on some historiography and literature.

judgments and opinions don't really give any insight or understanding, but neither will i argue.
it's up to you what you decide to think, what statements to make and how much to educate yourself and in what departments.


i don't hate islam.
it's too conveniently simplistic to view islam as 'the problem'.

which is not to say it doesn't have its problematic aspects.
there's only one final prophet there, mohammed - full stop and end of story.

but the historical trajectory there is such that mohammed had to figure out a way to break the perpetual cycle of endemic warfare ....
He didn't, obviously.

how obviously?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historian%27s_fallacy

next thing you know it, you're gonna say cambodia brought it all upon themselves too.

its very convenient to point the finger at a single reason - islam, the jews, the bourgious, the rich, etc...
but that's not how things work, ever. .....
and im not implying islam is good or bad, i am saying that this is not the way to formulate it to begin with.

Your reference notes problems with post facto analysis of history which I agree with, and I think you and I agree that the poster I responded to has it wrong.

He postulates a "single mover theory" of history in which Mohammed was responsible for "breaking the perpetual cycle of endemic warfare."

Not only has such a thing not happened in general, but if it had in some regions, there would be various diverse causes. 
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Because most representatives of the Muslim religion are prone to terrorism and violence. Although among them there are spiritually developed and kind people.

Most of muslim representatives in the middle eastern countries that are devastated by war or in countries where theocracy reins...
We have muslims in Serbia and I've never heard that there was any kind of crime, even less a terrorist attack, comited by them...
Shortly, war makes the worst of people.

i lived an year in israel, the negev desert near gaza.
know people who lived or had spent time in iran, egypt, lebanon, lybia... - even syria before the war broke out (not to mention encountered some syrians in the last half an year and those i met strike me as quite secular and what's even more of a surprise - well educated and speaking good to perfect english).
what i can tell from personal experience and encounters is that:

- ironically or paradoxially, the middle east and people there (whether muslim, jewish, druze, bedouin, etc.) seem a whole lot saner, particularly in their everyday interactions compared to the west, where the neurosis/psychosis spectrum reigns.

- the middle east is really a different world, one that cannot be judged by one's external standards that are mostly derived from media and inability to interpret events and causal relationships of what affects what and how.... not to mention it being a mosaic of ethnicities and ethno religious groups (many of which quite ancient), and a whole lot of them just nominally muslim and largely secularized. but most people just see them as 'muslims', 'sand niggers', and can't recognize a kurd from a saudi or a syrian from an iraqi...

and yeah, i'm balkan too, i know what you mean and that's what i wanted to point to as well.
you even have muslim matriarchical societies somewhere in africa, lol.
at the same time, statistically speaking, it seems that most crimes (and by crimes i mean the really criminal shit, like those fuckers in sweden that raped a girl for 3 hours proudly live streaming it on facebook and so on..) are committed by muslims coming from places like pakistan, somalia, etc.
when i hear some of the stories from friends and acquaintances living in germany, what germany allows there, i am shocked.
and if we keep up this way of thinking, of either/or, black or white, either with us or with the terrorists, that dialectic only perpetuates things one way - from worse, to worse...
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Your reference notes problems with post facto analysis of history which I agree with, and I think you and I agree that the poster I responded to has it wrong.

He postulates a "single mover theory" of history in which Mohammed was responsible for "breaking the perpetual cycle of endemic warfare."

Not only has such a thing not happened in general, but if it had in some regions, there would be various diverse causes. 

ok, that's better - i agree i didn't well enough explain myself.

strangely, since i been in asia my vocabulary and manner of expressing myself has deteriorated a bit.
when people don't understand what i try to say too often i try to use simpler/more common english words and thus...

no time to try learning chinese yet unfortunately.
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- ironically or paradoxially, the middle east and people there (whether muslim, jewish, druze, bedouin, etc.) seem a whole lot saner, particularly in their everyday interactions compared to the west, where the neurosis/psychosis spectrum reigns.

It depends on a lot of things. First of all, no Israeli mainstream political party engages in Muslim appeasement (I am not considering Meretz as a mainstream party). And secondly, the Syrians have lived for decades under the secular regime of Assad. The population there is quite moderate, at least when compared to the other Arabs. 
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