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March 23, 2018, 03:35:27 PM
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514786   2018-Mar-23 11:40   12.49660372   17.346T   298hr 58m 52s   69.22PHs   0.31%   54.151G   216.08THs   0.03901173
514487   2018-Mar-21 05:50   12.54574969   17.335T   331hr 24m 13s   62.41PHs   0.08%   13.950G   50.22THs   0.01009607
514430   2018-Mar-20 21:47   12.91714506   17.316T   335hr 1m 12s   61.66PHs   0.05%   7.855G   27.97THs   0.00585954

Here's my rewards for the past 3 days since I started mining.

My understanding is, it takes x amount of time to fully ramp up.

Also, for any block thats found while I've been mining, I don't receive the full amount owed to me straight away.

So, first block, I received .005 BTC
Second block, I received BTC for block 2, but also for block 1?
Third block, I receive BTC for block 3, 2 and 1?
Fourth (future block) I will receive BTC for all 4 blocks?
Fifth (future block) I will receive BTC for all 5 blocks?
Sixth (future block) I will receive BTC for this block, plus the previous 4?

And this will continue until I'm fully ramped up?
When ramped up, in x amount of time, do I then still have my payments split out amoung blocks, or receive it all at once when we get a block?


Sorry.,.. still trying to get my head around this. I may have totally misread info and be completely wrong :p


I am still working on fully understanding it, too.

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong here:
Looking at the Shifts page, going back to the beginning of the last payout -
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9vzfq yuno Mar‑11 00:41:39 52m 17s 1.472M 1.375k 2.01THs 2.452k 600.17 8 0.60497 159.26%

Doesn't the "8" tell me that I have been rewarded eight times for the shares submitted during that shift?  That is my current understanding.

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March 23, 2018, 03:42:03 PM
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I am still working on fully understanding it, too.

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong here:
Looking at the Shifts page, going back to the beginning of the last payout -
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9vzfq yuno Mar‑11 00:41:39 52m 17s 1.472M 1.375k 2.01THs 2.452k 600.17 8 0.60497 159.26%

Doesn't the "8" tell me that I have been rewarded eight times for the shares submitted during that shift?  That is my current understanding.

That's correct, your share has been counted for rewards 8 times (since the pool is now lucky).

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March 23, 2018, 03:43:12 PM
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514786   2018-Mar-23 11:40   12.49660372   17.346T   298hr 58m 52s   69.22PHs   0.31%   54.151G   216.08THs   0.03901173
514487   2018-Mar-21 05:50   12.54574969   17.335T   331hr 24m 13s   62.41PHs   0.08%   13.950G   50.22THs   0.01009607
514430   2018-Mar-20 21:47   12.91714506   17.316T   335hr 1m 12s   61.66PHs   0.05%   7.855G   27.97THs   0.00585954

Here's my rewards for the past 3 days since I started mining.

My understanding is, it takes x amount of time to fully ramp up.

Also, for any block thats found while I've been mining, I don't receive the full amount owed to me straight away.

So, first block, I received .005 BTC
Second block, I received BTC for block 2, but also for block 1?
Third block, I receive BTC for block 3, 2 and 1?
Fourth (future block) I will receive BTC for all 4 blocks?
Fifth (future block) I will receive BTC for all 5 blocks?
Sixth (future block) I will receive BTC for this block, plus the previous 4?

And this will continue until I'm fully ramped up?
When ramped up, in x amount of time, do I then still have my payments split out amoung blocks, or receive it all at once when we get a block?


Sorry.,.. still trying to get my head around this. I may have totally misread info and be completely wrong :p

I still have not had this confirmed, but I believe you get paid based on the shares you submitted compared to what everyone else submitted for 5 times the difficulty total shares.

So the first block had 61.66Ph total shares (61,660 Th) and you provided 27.97 Th which is .0454% of the 12.91715 reward. 
The second block had 62.41Ph total shares with your 50.22 Th shares giving you .0805% of the reward.
The third block had 69.22 Ph total shares with your 216.08 Th giving you .3122% of the reward.

If you stop mining, the shares will gradually decrease over 11 days or so.  You get rewarded for any blocks that we find during those days.

So the ramp is based on the shares your miner submits and has nothing to do with paying for previous blocks at a later time.  It is quite confusing but important because if you stop mining and we have no blocks for 11 days, you will not receive more.  But if we find 30 blocks in those 11 days, you get partial rewards for all of them.

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March 23, 2018, 03:47:55 PM
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I still have not had this confirmed, but I believe you get paid based on the shares you submitted compared to what everyone else submitted for 5 times the difficulty total shares.

So the first block had 61.66Ph total shares (61,660 Th) and you provided 27.97 Th which is .0454% of the 12.91715 reward.  
The second block had 62.41Ph total shares with your 50.22 Th shares giving you .0805% of the reward.
The third block had 69.22 Ph total shares with your 216.08 Th giving you .3122% of the reward.

If you stop mining, the shares will gradually decrease over 11 days or so.  You get rewarded for any blocks that we find during those days.

So the ramp is based on the shares your miner submits and has nothing to do with paying for previous blocks at a later time.  It is quite confusing but important because if you stop mining and we have no blocks for 11 days, you will not receive more.  But if we find 30 blocks in those 11 days, you get partial rewards for all of them.

5Nd is a measure of the number of shares - not a measure of time, so that's why your explanation is correct; up to the last part.

The latest block counted 5Nd at ~299 hours or ~12.45 days which means that it took everyone here mining for 12.45 days to submit 5Nd (currently 17,312,711,955,958.0) shares.

Every share submitted in the past 299 hours or over 5Nd shares was counted for a portion of the reward

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March 23, 2018, 04:43:41 PM
Last edit: March 23, 2018, 05:01:04 PM by jungleb0y
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I got bored and Photoshoped this shift graph

Currently the 5Nd contains 9 block for payout, when they fall out the back of the 5Nd you can expect that you have been paid in full for the shares you submitted for that block also in conjunction with your "ramped hashrate". (that's all beyond me but I trust that Kano has it under control)

Looking at this modified shift graph page you see each block found is roughly in the correct position.

Since I did not have any hasrate till late in the evening on the 15th, I do not expect any payout for the blocks 2211-2215 however on blocks 2216-2220 i made a little dot where the hash rate might have been at that time.  That is the rate that I can expect to get paid for throughout the 5Nd till that block drops out the back of the 5Nd.

Depending on how lucky or unlucky the pool is there could be 20 blocks in there or 1 block.

Edited: that image dont look like it will show up because im a NOBB
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March 23, 2018, 04:57:25 PM
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March 23, 2018, 05:22:16 PM
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I got bored and Photoshoped this shift graph
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And, just by eye-balling it to see how much of the red shared area--the last block's previous 500% Network Difficulty (5Nd)--is filled with full hashrate mining, it looks like you're about 2/3rds to 3/4ths of the way ramped up to full payouts.

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March 23, 2018, 05:26:50 PM
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And, just by eye-balling it to see how much of the red shared area--the last block's previous 500% Network Difficulty (5Nd)--is filled with full hashrate mining, it looks like you're about 2/3rds to 3/4ths of the way ramped up to full payouts.

Thanks for reposting that, yup just about there.
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March 23, 2018, 05:34:47 PM
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P.S.: The enemy's gate is DOWN.
Fixed that for you. 

Haha!  Grin

You're awake, and I did well to even get the reference. It's been a bit since i read that.

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March 23, 2018, 07:10:30 PM
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It's almost there........my invalids went down 3%.
Until further notice, I am listening!



Yeah that is one interesting note to check out.  

I noticed it a couple of weeks ago. When we get NEAR the Find, if my invalid % drops, we get a block within the next few hours. Haven't noticed a drop on double Blocks, that are a few hours apart though. Might be something to it, might be a fluke, just seems more than coincidence.


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March 23, 2018, 07:33:10 PM
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Help Kano!

My shares on Kano Account are showing 0 since Mar‑22 13:13:31, why would that be?

Your machines are not hashing...internet or power down?  Try rebooting your machines.

Thanks, rebooted, now one of the machines miner status doesn't show one of the hash boards, and is hashing at 9TH.  Cry
What's my next step?

Same here man, restarted the miner and now one board only shows 26 functioning chips and guess what it is the same card that I’ve sent for repair to Colorado before and waited for them to fix it like 3 months!
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March 23, 2018, 08:52:54 PM
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Help Kano!

My shares on Kano Account are showing 0 since Mar‑22 13:13:31, why would that be?

Your machines are not hashing...internet or power down?  Try rebooting your machines.

Thanks, rebooted, now one of the machines miner status doesn't show one of the hash boards, and is hashing at 9TH.  Cry
What's my next step?

Same here man, restarted the miner and now one board only shows 26 functioning chips and guess what it is the same card that I’ve sent for repair to Colorado before and waited for them to fix it like 3 months!


rookie question : about how long b4 i start seeing this problem poping up on my machine ?


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March 23, 2018, 09:06:12 PM
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Same here man, restarted the miner and now one board only shows 26 functioning chips and guess what it is the same card that I’ve sent for repair to Colorado before and waited for them to fix it like 3 months!
3 months?
Damn that makes BitmainWarranty look REAL bad.
They go on about their high prices coz they do things fast ... so basically that's not the case?

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March 23, 2018, 09:13:02 PM
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Same here man, restarted the miner and now one board only shows 26 functioning chips and guess what it is the same card that I’ve sent for repair to Colorado before and waited for them to fix it like 3 months!
3 months?
Damn that makes BitmainWarranty look REAL bad.
They go on about their high prices coz they do things fast ... so basically that's not the case?

I had one that was replaced in about three weeks or so.  Had to keep on them but it got done (Colorado).
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Same here man, restarted the miner and now one board only shows 26 functioning chips and guess what it is the same card that I’ve sent for repair to Colorado before and waited for them to fix it like 3 months!
3 months?
Damn that makes BitmainWarranty look REAL bad.
They go on about their high prices coz they do things fast ... so basically that's not the case?

I've had a unit there since Jan 16th...     Not Fast (In My Opinion)
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March 23, 2018, 09:37:56 PM
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Looks like we are pretty consistently at 90Ph now.  Time to change the forum heading?  Also time for 6 blocks this weekend!  Mine on!

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March 23, 2018, 09:45:06 PM
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Looks like we are pretty consistently at 90Ph now.  Time to change the forum heading?  Also time for 6 blocks this weekend!  Mine on!

now now, let's not be greedy!   6 by end of month is fine with me.    Tongue



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March 23, 2018, 09:45:42 PM
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Looks like we are pretty consistently at 90Ph now.  Time to change the forum heading?  Also time for 6 blocks this weekend!  Mine on!
Heh - no I look at the Pool->Graph to decide coz that's what's actually happening in the shifts ... as opposed to ckpool's dubious estimate of the hash rate Tongue
It's a bit below the 85 mark.

(and yes redoing the hash rates throught the entire web site is on the todo list - I'll also add a short term hash rate graph)

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Omg blockkkkk
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March 23, 2018, 09:46:18 PM
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Looks like we are pretty consistently at 90Ph now.  Time to change the forum heading?  Also time for 6 blocks this weekend!  Mine on!
Heh - no I look at the Pool->Graph to decide coz that's what's actually happening in the shifts ... as opposed to ckpool's dubious estimate of the hash rate Tongue
It's a but below the 85 mark.

(and yes redoing the hash rates throught the entire web site is on the todo list - I'll also add a short term hash rate graph)

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