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[kano]

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[kano]

posted  a poll on 2  pools https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1338693.0


I did some math and decided to post the poll on  pools  should be fun to see what happens with it.


The math in favor of kano.is vs antpool is huge  

about 104.4 for kano vs 97.5 for antpool

@ kano if I have wrong info in the poll on pool  thread let me know.

Looks like I need to prioritise adding payout history stats like per month and per difficulty (PPS)
The information is all there, but I just need to create some memory summaries so that requesting it doesn't recalculate it every time.

But yeah, if you always mine here, the stats should be just as the web stats report.
If you mine here and there and wherever else, it can be better or worse, but that's just hopping luck affecting pool luck

I guess the biggest deal about the growth in the last while is indeed that variance has dropped.
We're still small enough to have a block or 2 here and there that means nothing for a couple of days, but that time affect is of course based on pool hash rate. We expect to have bad blocks every so often no matter what we do, but the time length effect, of a single bad or good block, gets shorter as the pool gets larger.

[adaseb]

I'm new to PPLNS pools so if the block has a value of 25.70968754, do we get a share of that amount or 25 BTC ?

[kano]

I'm new to PPLNS pools so if the block has a value of 25.70968754, do we get a share of that amount or 25 BTC ?

https://kano.is/index.php?k=payout

"How much of each block does the pool reward?

Transaction fees are included in the miner reward.
Pool fee is 0.9% of the total."

[philipma1957]

I'm new to PPLNS pools so if the block has a value of 25.70968754, do we get a share of that amount or 25 BTC ?

i think kano takes his .9 % from it and we get the rest of the 25.70968754

[adaseb]

Nice. Thanks for the replies.

[kano]

Kano,

Just convince my Brothers to join and bring his 180TH to Kano pool.  Their account is NBIZ.  He have a question as to why he set his Wallet address 3 times and it emailed him that it was changed but when he log in it still tell him to

"Please set a payout address on your account!"  

In his settings page, it the wallet address does not save and shows as empty.  Browser used is Chrome.  

Account settings,  "change address" not working?

Does not work.  It says Wallet address changed but it doesn't do anything.  He also get an email alert that it was changed.  I also logged in to do it for him.  SAme issue.  I will try a different browser now.

IE Works.  Pretty weird.

Looking at the logs, there was only one time that the command included a hashed password (the last time) - so it would seem the password field was always blank (except the last time)

[clgrissom3]

Love those new Block announcements!  Thanks GLORYTrading for adding to your block totals!

[baazju]

Leave it to CKPool to have awesome luck!! Why anyone would mine elsewhere???

[nhando]

NBIZ needs to be fully RAMP UP!!!!!  THESE NEW BLOCKS WOULD BE MUCH MORE TASTY!!!!

[cyptojoker69fl]

 🍗🍗🍗Keep that Chicken dance going!!!! 🍗🍗🍗

[yun9999]

At what total pool HASHing power will the RAMP up time be at just 1 day?  30PH?

[kano]

At what total pool HASHing power will the RAMP up time be at just 1 day?  30PH?

Well, remember that the ramp isn't a loss of anything, it's simply delaying rewarding your shares by spreading the reward out over 5Nd after each share.
But anyway, the last reward was 58hr 20m 31s = 11.73PHs so to make that ~24hrs:
(58*60+20)/(24*60) * 11.73 ~= 28.5PHs

[thedreamer]

So current Ramp up time is about 60hours or so? Daymm.. Getting down from the 5day wait. :-)

[nhando]

My Brother in law want to bring onboard another 200-500TH group but they seem to think 2.5 days is a bit long.  Here's hoping our pool get to 20PH soon.  I'll work on bringing them on board soon enough.   I will bring in 1PH to Kano before year end for sure.  It's good to have a bunch of Big Pillar Players to support the many smaller miners to increase stability / decentralization.  This is the pool to be at. 

[philipma1957]

My Brother in law want to bring onboard another 200-500TH group but they seem to think 2.5 days is a bit long.  Here's hoping our pool get to 20PH soon.  I'll work on bringing them on board soon enough.   I will bring in 1PH to Kano before year end for sure.  It's good to have a bunch of Big Pillar Players to support the many smaller miners to increase stability / decentralization.  This is the pool to be at. 

have them read my thread on the lifetime  math for this pool.

for every 97.5 coins they would earn on antpool they would earn 104.2 coins here. the math is very compelling for big groups to come here.

my thread is in the pool section.

[nhando]

They're operating 1.5PH of hashing power so they're no dummies like me when it comes to the math.  It's more of a hedge.  Pass performance does not guarantee future results is what they will say, but I'm selling it based on the community / developers.  So far they have committed 200TH out of the 1.5PH, I'm pretty certain the rest will come once they see the results for sure.  Right now they are just testing the tools and functionalities.  My project is supposed to support the next 500TH expansion but I seem to have the worst of luck when it comes to this ever lasting POWER upgrade delays.   Been Pitching ZACHM's tools, they like that.  

P.S Stay tune for my 3D printed project. Some very cool work on Exhaust fan cooling and customization.  We need to get Kano to be at least 10% of the network, so that we can help do our part on the decentralization even though it's just a fraction.  Bitcoin will be worthless if it's just controlled by 1 group.

[philipma1957]

They're operating 1.5PH of hashing power so they're no dummies like me when it comes to the math.  It's more of a hedge.  Pass performance does not guarantee future results is what they will say, but I'm selling it based on the community / developers.  So far they have committed 200TH out of the 1.5PH, I'm pretty certain the rest will come once they see the results for sure.  My project is supposed to support the next 500TH expansion but I seem to have the worst of luck when it comes to this ever lasting POWER upgrade delays.   Been Pitching ZACHM's tools, they like that.  

P.S Stay tune for my 3D printed project. Some very cool work on Exhaust fan cooling and customization.  We need to get Kano to be at least 10% of the network, so that we can help do our part on the decentralization even though it's just a fraction.  Bitcoin will be worthless if it's just controlled by 1 group.

read this thread


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1338693.0


My proposal is that  the bolded statement above  is not correct.

It is not like kano has 12 guys tossing a coin in the air and antpool has 200 guys tossing a coin in the air.

With perfectly identical coin tossing  systems.


There is software/hardware servers/ connections   and they are not equal  so the 104% 'luck' is due to superior setup vs the '

100% 'luck'

this is lifetime over extended blocks.

maybe part of the superior luck is that 12ph  can hash more efficient then 200ph due to connection issues.


For example if antpool had to process on 56g dial up

and kano was using 300mb fiber optics they would kill antpool.

but if both had the exact same connection   12ph would move more quickly along an equal highway then 200ph.

But if this is true  and kano was to grow to 50ph and antpool dropped to 162ph

the luck would still not level out.

You got guys with 500th to 1.5ph

they need to read what  am saying  since 1.5ph earns about 200 coins a months at 100%

and 208 coins a month at 104%

once you figure in  fees  antpool would give them about 195 coins  and kano would give about 209

that is 14 coins per month.  the upside is huge

[nhando]

ANTPool is not even a consideration.  The only way we can support decentralization is to support a balance of US vs china.  I have nothing against ANTPOOL or China but the entire point of decentralization is exactly that, not give 1 pool complete control.  I've been on this pool since it was 3PH, a rookie and know absolutely nothing about the 5ND.  This community have taught me so much in the past few months.  My brother in law's group's goal is to grow to 2 or 3PH while supporting Decentralization.  Even though 3PH sounds like a lot, it's nothing in the grand scheme of things.  They have their own private pools but my recommendation is that they should support this Pool instead.  My portion of the project is to grow to 500TH but it's been painfully slow with nothing but speed bumps with all the power and cooling issues.   Heck, I'll be lucky if I can even get to 50% of that by year end at the rate I'm moving.

I really want to see Kano grow to be 10% of the network as we have a wonderful community that truly believe in doing the right thing for the bitcoin community.   I do believe Kano will grow pass 20PH before end of 2016.  If I can convince them to move the 1.5-3PH, it would just speed up the process.  I highly doubt they would move 100% to any pool but even 25-50% is a good start.  Once we're in the the 20PH+ and the ramp up time is less than 1.5days, I think the conversation will quickly change and Kanos will grow at an unprecedented speed.

[aarons6]

ANTPool is not even a consideration.  The only way we can support decentralization is to support a balance of US vs china.  I have nothing against ANTPOOL or China but the entire point of decentralization is exactly that, not give 1 pool complete control.  I've been on this pool since it was 3PH, a rookie and know absolutely nothing about the 5ND.  This community have taught me so much in the past few months.  My brother in law's group's goal is to grow to 2 or 3PH while supporting Decentralization.  Even though 3PH sounds like a lot, it's nothing in the grand scheme of things.  They have their own private pools but my recommendation is that they should support this Pool instead.  My portion of the project is to grow to 500TH but it's been painfully slow with nothing but speed bumps with all the power and cooling issues.   Heck, I'll be lucky if I can even get to 50% of that by year end at the rate I'm moving.

I really want to see Kano grow to be 10% of the network as we have a wonderful community that truly believe in doing the right thing for the bitcoin community.   I do believe Kano will grow pass 20PH before end of 2016.  If I can convince them to move the 1.5-3PH, it would just speed up the process.  I highly doubt they would move 100% to any pool but even 25-50% is a good start.  Once we're in the the 20PH+ and the ramp up time is less than 1.5days, I think the conversation will quickly change and Kanos will grow at an unprecedented speed.

this "ramp up time" you speak of is not a huge thing.. it goes both ways meaning when you turn off a miner, or a rental runs out you get paid till it "ramps down", and it helps keep your hash rate from dropping off should your miner be offline for a short bit and a block was found at that time...